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Build a Franchise 3.0 / 2015 (2 Viewers)

Let's get our roster sizes figured out. I'm thinking a balanced team would have at least:

QB - 2

RB - 3

WR - 4

TE - 1

OL - 7

Front 7 - 9 (DL+LB depending on scheme)

CB - 4

S - 3

K - 1

P - 1

Total = 35

I think it's important to have back ups and/or rotational players but we could cut down from 53 to 35. We also bring our total from 1700 to 1120, which should shorten the overall length and avoid the low end grind.

We could also use this number for just vets and have a rookie draft after.

 
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i think 35 vs 53 will not be much of a time difference. Once we get past 30 players, most owners will have used up their cap, and will just be posting their final fillers at the vet minimum. In the interest of accurately simulating what it is like to build a real roster, I strongly prefer that we roster 53.

 
Something I just thought about is that if guys have multiple teams it might impact an auction more than a standard draft.

Let's say the same guy is picking for the Bucs and the Bills he is more likely to avoid up bidding himself. It likely isn't an intentional thing but he is probably just trying a different strategy.

With picks I think it's easier to be honest. This is just my personal experience.

 
i think 35 vs 53 will not be much of a time difference. Once we get past 30 players, most owners will have used up their cap, and will just be posting their final fillers at the vet minimum. In the interest of accurately simulating what it is like to build a real roster, I strongly prefer that we roster 53.
I think it will greatly slow down. People lose interest. Plus, if you have a rookie draft after that will get the number closer to the 53. As far as picking a "winner" a teams 8th OL, or 6th corner probably won't be much of a consideration.

If we can average a pick/bid win an hour for the whole process at 53 players it will take 28 days. At 35 it will take 19 days.

 
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i think 35 vs 53 will not be much of a time difference. Once we get past 30 players, most owners will have used up their cap, and will just be posting their final fillers at the vet minimum. In the interest of accurately simulating what it is like to build a real roster, I strongly prefer that we roster 53.
Yeah I'd strongly advocate against attempting to do 53, at least right from the start. We tried doing it both of the past years and by the end of each one it was 3-4 of us making picks for multiple teams to cover those that had dropped out. If we get to the late twenties or so and everyone is still really involved and wants to go for more, we probably can, but that really shouldn't be our goal.

 
Whicker said:
Los Gigantes said:
i think 35 vs 53 will not be much of a time difference. Once we get past 30 players, most owners will have used up their cap, and will just be posting their final fillers at the vet minimum. In the interest of accurately simulating what it is like to build a real roster, I strongly prefer that we roster 53.
Yeah I'd strongly advocate against attempting to do 53, at least right from the start. We tried doing it both of the past years and by the end of each one it was 3-4 of us making picks for multiple teams to cover those that had dropped out. If we get to the late twenties or so and everyone is still really involved and wants to go for more, we probably can, but that really shouldn't be our goal.
Right. If not for our past experience I'd probably push for a full roster.

Regarding the impact of having two teams on an auction, that's true. Not sure if there's anything to do about it or if the impact is that big with 30 other teams. But it's true that we wouldn't bid against our own team.

 
If we can average a pick/bid win an hour for the whole process at 53 players it will take 28 days. At 35 it will take 19 days.

- I'd guess the first 200 players will take longer but later on the average will be around an hour.

 
I participate in 32 team fantasy leagues that were auction start up. Less players and actual financial interest. Still, those auctions take forever. I think doing this entire thing as an auction will be a disaster. It will take way too long and people will lose interest. I'd rather do all draft than all auction. I do like the blended idea most, though.

 
I participate in 32 team fantasy leagues that were auction start up. Less players and actual financial interest. Still, those auctions take forever. I think doing this entire thing as an auction will be a disaster. It will take way too long and people will lose interest. I'd rather do all draft than all auction. I do like the blended idea most, though.
true. though I think the financial interest might make those go longer.

Would you still participate if we tried full auction?

The key reason I want at least partial auction are to allow teams to set their core through choice instead of essentially Lucking into a spot (pardon the pun). Not to say a draft can't balance out through 3RR and rookie reversal but auction allows for greater freedom to build your team as you want it.

 
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Borden said:
Let's get our roster sizes figured out. I'm thinking a balanced team would have at least:

QB - 2

RB - 3

WR - 4

TE - 1

OL - 7

Front 7 - 9 (DL+LB depending on scheme)

CB - 4

S - 3

K - 1

P - 1

Total = 35

I think it's important to have back ups and/or rotational players but we could cut down from 53 to 35. We also bring our total from 1700 to 1120, which should shorten the overall length and avoid the low end grind.

We could also use this number for just vets and have a rookie draft after.
:goodposting:

 
Borden said:
Let's get our roster sizes figured out. I'm thinking a balanced team would have at least:

QB - 2

RB - 3

WR - 4

TE - 1

OL - 7

Front 7 - 9 (DL+LB depending on scheme)

CB - 4

S - 3

K - 1

P - 1

Total = 35

I think it's important to have back ups and/or rotational players but we could cut down from 53 to 35. We also bring our total from 1700 to 1120, which should shorten the overall length and avoid the low end grind.

We could also use this number for just vets and have a rookie draft after.
Good post and great start. I think we need at least 40 roster spots. Only having 1 TE is no way feasible IMO. Need 3 at least. Also, front 7 needs to have at least 11 spots. No matter the scheme there has to be a backup to every role: DE, DT, MLB and OLB. I'd also say at least 1 more DB is needed. I'd put roster at. QB - 2

RB - 3

WR - 4

TE - 3

OL - 7

Front 7 - 11(DL+LB depending on scheme)

CB - 4 or 5

S - 3 or 4

K - 1

P - 1

Total = 40

 
Borden said:
Let's get our roster sizes figured out. I'm thinking a balanced team would have at least:

QB - 2

RB - 3

WR - 4

TE - 1

OL - 7

Front 7 - 9 (DL+LB depending on scheme)

CB - 4

S - 3

K - 1

P - 1

Total = 35

I think it's important to have back ups and/or rotational players but we could cut down from 53 to 35. We also bring our total from 1700 to 1120, which should shorten the overall length and avoid the low end grind.

We could also use this number for just vets and have a rookie draft after.
Good post and great start. I think we need at least 40 roster spots. Only having 1 TE is no way feasible IMO. Need 3 at least. Also, front 7 needs to have at least 11 spots. No matter the scheme there has to be a backup to every role: DE, DT, MLB and OLB. I'd also say at least 1 more DB is needed. I'd put roster at.QB - 2

RB - 3

WR - 4

TE - 3

OL - 7

Front 7 - 11(DL+LB depending on scheme)

CB - 4 or 5

S - 3 or 4

K - 1

P - 1

Total = 40
Does anyone have a problem going with 36 veteran rounds and 4 rookies?

 
Borden said:
Let's get our roster sizes figured out. I'm thinking a balanced team would have at least:

QB - 2

RB - 3

WR - 4

TE - 1

OL - 7

Front 7 - 9 (DL+LB depending on scheme)

CB - 4

S - 3

K - 1

P - 1

Total = 35

I think it's important to have back ups and/or rotational players but we could cut down from 53 to 35. We also bring our total from 1700 to 1120, which should shorten the overall length and avoid the low end grind.

We could also use this number for just vets and have a rookie draft after.
Good post and great start. I think we need at least 40 roster spots. Only having 1 TE is no way feasible IMO. Need 3 at least. Also, front 7 needs to have at least 11 spots. No matter the scheme there has to be a backup to every role: DE, DT, MLB and OLB. I'd also say at least 1 more DB is needed. I'd put roster at.QB - 2

RB - 3

WR - 4

TE - 3

OL - 7

Front 7 - 11(DL+LB depending on scheme)

CB - 4 or 5

S - 3 or 4

K - 1

P - 1

Total = 40
Does anyone have a problem going with 36 veteran rounds and 4 rookies?
rounds? I still prefer auction.

I'm thinking more along the lines of a minimum roster of 35, max of 40 before rookies. But if we want to have a set roster, 36/4 works.

ETA: I'd also advocate for flexibility in rosters. If I want to sign 3 QBs, should be able to. Same with kicker or any other position.

Pos - Minimum (veteran)

QB - 2

RB - 2

WR - 3

TE - 2

OL - 6

DL - 3

LB - 3

CB - 3

S - 3

K - 1

P - 1

Flex - 7

Total = 36

Add 4 rookies at any position you want.

Presuming we do auction for vet, is everyone good with an auction for rookies or should we randomly set the rookie order after vets are complete?

 
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Flexible rosters for sure. I was just using position numbers for a rough guideline.

I like the idea of a rookie draft (rather than auction) order based off of the auction dollars remaining.

 
Does anyone have a good way to try and create more interest for this thing? I've sent a couple PMs to those that I remember doing this in the past, but I haven't received any responses.

 
Does anyone have a good way to try and create more interest for this thing? I've sent a couple PMs to those that I remember doing this in the past, but I haven't received any responses.
I'm in...two teams if needed.... did the 2013 one and put together two solI'd squads. Pm when ready.Cowboys and An AFC team that's available

 
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Does anyone have a good way to try and create more interest for this thing? I've sent a couple PMs to those that I remember doing this in the past, but I haven't received any responses.
Good question. When we kick this off everyone needs to be on board, enough owners to make it interesting but they need to be active. I'll sort through tomorrow sometime, wr might need everyone to take two teams unless they're against it.

Eta: thanks for sending the messages, hope that brings some more back.

 
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40 man rosters before rookies, no constraints on positional limits.

If auction won't be a train wreck that would be preferred. Seems dicey on the surface though. Draft is certainly safer, but not as exciting, fair, and interest could fade.

 
I thought there was some writers thing where they do something like this? They had to do a write up too about their scheme and such.

 
FUBAR,

What is our total head count at?
Assuming I'm counting right, we have 19 teams accounted for with 15 people. If everyone takes two we just need one more person. But that's assuming everyone is on board with the full auction for vets, rookie draft based on auction dollars remaining (seems as fair as any other plan)

adrenaline

awesomeauger

borden

drunken-slob

fubar

jurb26

los-gigantes

late225

mac-32

meecrob

pipes

rbm

tarheel1unc

whicker

whitney26

wu-banger



Let's make it 40 man rosters, however you want to construct your roster. I can't imagine anyone straying far from what I had posted as minimums but that should be up to the individual owner.

Understand the concern with people bidding against themselves but if we all have two (or at least all have the opportunity for two), there's no unfair advantage.

 
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Does anyone have a good way to try and create more interest for this thing? I've sent a couple PMs to those that I remember doing this in the past, but I haven't received any responses.
I'm in...two teams if needed.... did the 2013 one and put together two solI'd squads. Pm when ready.Cowboys and An AFC team that's available
:thumbup: gave you the Chiefs for now. Cowboys and Indians. If you prefer a different team let me know.

 
FUBAR said:
Borden said:
FUBAR,

What is our total head count at?
Assuming I'm counting right, we have 19 teams accounted for with 15 people. If everyone takes two we just need one more person. But that's assuming everyone is on board with the full auction for vets, rookie draft based on auction dollars remaining (seems as fair as any other plan)

adrenaline

awesomeauger

borden

drunken-slob

fubar

jurb26

los-gigantes

late225

mac-32

meecrob

rbm

tarheel1unc

whicker

whitney26

wu-banger

Let's make it 40 man rosters, however you want to construct your roster. I can't imagine anyone straying far from what I had posted as minimums but that should be up to the individual owner.

Understand the concern with people bidding against themselves but if we all have two (or at least all have the opportunity for two), there's no unfair advantage.
I said that I'd be in.

 
FUBAR said:
Borden said:
FUBAR,

What is our total head count at?
Assuming I'm counting right, we have 19 teams accounted for with 15 people. If everyone takes two we just need one more person. But that's assuming everyone is on board with the full auction for vets, rookie draft based on auction dollars remaining (seems as fair as any other plan)

adrenaline

awesomeauger

borden

drunken-slob

fubar

jurb26

los-gigantes

late225

mac-32

meecrob

rbm

tarheel1unc

whicker

whitney26

wu-banger

Let's make it 40 man rosters, however you want to construct your roster. I can't imagine anyone straying far from what I had posted as minimums but that should be up to the individual owner.

Understand the concern with people bidding against themselves but if we all have two (or at least all have the opportunity for two), there's no unfair advantage.
I said that I'd be in.
:bag: sorry bro. don't know how I missed you.

do you want 2?

 
FUBAR said:
Borden said:
FUBAR,

What is our total head count at?
Assuming I'm counting right, we have 19 teams accounted for with 15 people. If everyone takes two we just need one more person. But that's assuming everyone is on board with the full auction for vets, rookie draft based on auction dollars remaining (seems as fair as any other plan)

adrenaline

awesomeauger

borden

drunken-slob

fubar

jurb26

los-gigantes

late225

mac-32

meecrob

rbm

tarheel1unc

whicker

whitney26

wu-banger

Let's make it 40 man rosters, however you want to construct your roster. I can't imagine anyone straying far from what I had posted as minimums but that should be up to the individual owner.

Understand the concern with people bidding against themselves but if we all have two (or at least all have the opportunity for two), there's no unfair advantage.
I said that I'd be in.
:bag: sorry bro. don't know how I missed you.

do you want 2?
Sure.

 
So we have 16 people.

Is everyone in for two teams, auction vet with rookie draft based on auction dollars remaining?

If so we can kick off later this week.

Need help inputting OLine into MFL. Haven't set up a league site yet but can do so tonight unless someone has time and inclination to get this thing rolling.

 
I do like the idea of using 143 (hundreds, thousands, millions or whatever) for the budget amount. Just seems right.

 
I think since we are doing an MFL auction one team would be ideal. Just so we aren't having to log in and out all the time. I'm guessing that's how it will work but I don't know.

 
I think since we are doing an MFL auction one team would be ideal. Just so we aren't having to log in and out all the time. I'm guessing that's how it will work but I don't know.
Same thing as a draft. If more people want in, that's fantastic.

 
Bump....a bunch of so called "Football Experts" wont put their money where their mouths are and draft an NFL team for us to judge... get in here you clowns and stop acting like you are researching cornerback's ability's to flip their hips.

 
I would like the Rams please. They don't appear to be taken.

P.S. I've been in this the last two years as well.

 
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I'm still in but I'm swamped at work until mid May. Depending on the speed though, the first few rounds should be easier.

 
I'm still in but I'm swamped at work until mid May. Depending on the speed though, the first few rounds should be easier.
That's two for mid may. That seems best. Maybe, at it's after the nfl draft we would include rookies in the initial and do it auction?

 
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