Build a FRANCHISE draft year 2 (1 Viewer)

[FUBAR]

I'm in favor of the coach but it's almost irrelevant. As far as drafting players to fit your coach - every coach walks into a pre-existing team so I don't think that's an issue. If we do the coach draft, I'd like to limit it to guys currently in the NFL ranks, college coaches and other coaches who interviewed this year. No "John Madden comes out of retirement" picks.

 

[Ndow89]

I think if your going to allow trades you need to be able to trade during the rookie draft, I mean that's the whole point. It you see a guy high on your board falling you make the move to go up and get him. Make a timer limit. Otherwise what's the point? I also think the vet draft should be 46, followed by the 7 round of rookies.

 

[Instinctive]

Panthers - really like your team except obviously the skill offensive players. Almost seems like a waste right now to have a GREAT interior OL but your RB won't exploit it as much as others would. If you had taken Lynch instead of Odrick you would have an A on offense even with Mallett and weak receivers. Hindsight is usually 20/20.

Thanks. Thought about Lynch more than once because I knew people would think that and people will decide who has the "best" team. Decided that was cheating the system - I think (most) anyone who took a RB that early made a fairly substantial mistake. Peterson 4 years ago would have deserved a high pick, for instance. But I wholeheartedly believe that RBs are fungible. It's why I took one focusing on receiving ability. I have a specific plan to address the running itself

Also: 46 rounds + 7 rookie rounds for me.

 

[Instinctive]

Funny thing just happened:

1. email update that Panthers took Marcus Gilchrist

2. My reaction "Damn it! Great pick, really wanted him."

3. a few seconds pass

4. "Oh wait! That's me! Yes!"

:smh

 

[AwesomeAuger]

Funny thing just happened:

1. email update that Panthers took Marcus Gilchrist

2. My reaction "Damn it! Great pick, really wanted him."

3. a few seconds pass

4. "Oh wait! That's me! Yes!"

:smh

 

[Nate Blough]

Arizona Roster so far...feel free to rate.

QB - Stafford

RB - Zac Stacy

WR - Jordy Nelson

WR - Mike Wallace

TE - Jermichael Finley

LT - Branden Albert

OG - Jahri Evans

C - Chris Myers

Offensive Analysis - I tried to build something similar to the Green bay offense. Stafford is not up to Rodgers level, but he's getting there. The trio of Jordy, Wallace, and Finley (if healthy) is 2/3 of the GB offense with Wallace being similar to Cobb. Throw in Zac Stacy and if he can perform as well as he did this season, it takes pressure off of Stafford.

4-3 Defense

RE - Mario Williams

DT - Jason Hatcher

DT - Darnell Dockett

OLB - Bruce Carter

MLB - Perry Riley

CB - Jason McCourty

CB - Janoris Jenkins

FS - Jairus Byrd

SS - Laron Landry

Defensive Analyis: Although some may feel my defense is lacking, I love it. Hatcher and Mario will be able to get pressure enough to not put too much strain on my LBs. I think Byrd and Landry are a great duo together. Byrd can play enough "center field" to allow Landry to be in the box. Overall my team should be strong against the run and athletic enough on the back end with Jenkins, McCourty, and Byrd to help stop the pass.

Let me know your thoughts.

 

[codizzle]

Arizona- Good balance.. Can't really judge offense until see a full OL because I don't trust stafford at all under pressure

Your Dline will be stout probably one of the best. LB group will be on the weaker side but secondary is strong

 

[AwesomeAuger]

I originally wanted to get a safety or two but there was a huge run the past round or two leaving me without any of my targets. Instead, I'll take the two guys at the top of my board and two more offensive weapons for Rodgers. I already know my opinion of Joique is higher than most as I view him as a B+ player. Joique excels in all 3 phases of the game and is a good runner, receiver, and blocker. As a runner, Joique runs with power and elusiveness.

Sproles is so quick and so dangerous horizontally. I feel like he will benefit from the space left underneath with DeSean and Demaryius as the offense's outside, vertical threats.

Both the Lions and Saints in real life use two RB sets in a similar manner. The Lions had many formations where Bell and Bush were on the field together with Bell in the backfield and Bush in the slot. Similarly, the Saints had formations where Sproles was in the slot and Thomas or Ingram was playing in the backfield. I plan to use a similar strategy with Bell and Sproles together.

Both Sproles and Bell are great in the screen game and I expect to have them both on the field at the same time a lot. Sproles's age is a bit of a concern so I will need to keep an eye on his snap count.

 

[FUBAR]

I originally wanted to get a safety or two but there was a huge run the past round or two leaving me without any of my targets. Instead, I'll take the two guys at the top of my board and two more offensive weapons for Rodgers. I already know my opinion of Joique is higher than most as I view him as a B+ player. Joique excels in all 3 phases of the game and is a good runner, receiver, and blocker. As a runner, Joique runs with power and elusiveness.

Sproles is so quick and so dangerous horizontally. I feel like he will benefit from the space left underneath with DeSean and Demaryius as the offense's outside, vertical threats.

Both the Lions and Saints in real life use two RB sets in a similar manner. The Lions had many formations where Bell and Bush were on the field together with Bell in the backfield and Bush in the slot. Similarly, the Saints had formations where Sproles was in the slot and Thomas or Ingram was playing in the backfield. I plan to use a similar strategy with Bell and Sproles together.

Both Sproles and Bell are great in the screen game and I expect to have them both on the field at the same time a lot. Sproles's age is a bit of a concern so I will need to keep an eye on his snap count.

I've been a big fan of Sproles ever since we lived in Manhattan, KS and watched him play. But, the man seems to have lost a step. Not really surprising as he turns 31 this summer. Fair value here of course, but he'll likely be out of the league in 2 years.

Bell is solid, though you're right that you grade him higher than I would.

I like what you did at this turn around.

 

[FUBAR]

Arizona Roster so far...feel free to rate.

QB - Stafford

RB - Zac Stacy

WR - Jordy Nelson

WR - Mike Wallace

TE - Jermichael Finley

LT - Branden Albert

OG - Jahri Evans

C - Chris Myers

Offensive Analysis - I tried to build something similar to the Green bay offense. Stafford is not up to Rodgers level, but he's getting there. The trio of Jordy, Wallace, and Finley (if healthy) is 2/3 of the GB offense with Wallace being similar to Cobb. Throw in Zac Stacy and if he can perform as well as he did this season, it takes pressure off of Stafford.

4-3 Defense

RE - Mario Williams

DT - Jason Hatcher

DT - Darnell Dockett

OLB - Bruce Carter

MLB - Perry Riley

CB - Jason McCourty

CB - Janoris Jenkins

FS - Jairus Byrd

SS - Laron Landry

Defensive Analyis: Although some may feel my defense is lacking, I love it. Hatcher and Mario will be able to get pressure enough to not put too much strain on my LBs. I think Byrd and Landry are a great duo together. Byrd can play enough "center field" to allow Landry to be in the box. Overall my team should be strong against the run and athletic enough on the back end with Jenkins, McCourty, and Byrd to help stop the pass.

Let me know your thoughts.

Don't see Wallace and Cobb as all that similar. Good receiver, Stafford would likely focus on him even with Nelson there. Of course, that would likely lead to a lot of INTs... Maybe it's just because that's what we see in Lions games and he's been able to rely on Calvin but I'd have liked to see you get a big play receiver who will beat DBs out for jump balls. As a Lions fan I might just be too harsh on Stafford. Good offense overall, B- unless you're able to solidify your Line.

I actually like your D better than your O, though (like my Titans) they won't overwhelm with a pass rush. B

 

[deadlyrange0321]

Last two picks:

Kareem Jackson CB

One of the last solid corners on my board. Not a game changer, but I had a B- on him. Still young, and there is some upside here. Houston, as a whole, had a down year.

Nick Perry OLB

Will play opposite Justin Houston. Perry has shown some hints of being a solid pass rusher. He'll get that chance with us. Obviously, he needs to continue to develop, but he's very young and we are hoping he'll continue to improve. (i.e. needs to improve against the run)

 

[AwesomeAuger]

I originally wanted to get a safety or two but there was a huge run the past round or two leaving me without any of my targets. Instead, I'll take the two guys at the top of my board and two more offensive weapons for Rodgers. I already know my opinion of Joique is higher than most as I view him as a B+ player. Joique excels in all 3 phases of the game and is a good runner, receiver, and blocker. As a runner, Joique runs with power and elusiveness.

Sproles is so quick and so dangerous horizontally. I feel like he will benefit from the space left underneath with DeSean and Demaryius as the offense's outside, vertical threats.

Both the Lions and Saints in real life use two RB sets in a similar manner. The Lions had many formations where Bell and Bush were on the field together with Bell in the backfield and Bush in the slot. Similarly, the Saints had formations where Sproles was in the slot and Thomas or Ingram was playing in the backfield. I plan to use a similar strategy with Bell and Sproles together.

Both Sproles and Bell are great in the screen game and I expect to have them both on the field at the same time a lot. Sproles's age is a bit of a concern so I will need to keep an eye on his snap count.

I've been a big fan of Sproles ever since we lived in Manhattan, KS and watched him play. But, the man seems to have lost a step. Not really surprising as he turns 31 this summer. Fair value here of course, but he'll likely be out of the league in 2 years.

Bell is solid, though you're right that you grade him higher than I would.

I like what you did at this turn around.

That's a fair assessment. I agree it looked like Sproles lost a step but it still looks like he has two steps on any linebacker covering him. I agree he probably won't play at a high level for too much longer but at this point of the draft I'm looking to acquire the best, most unique role players.

 

[Late225]

Last two picks:

Kareem Jackson CB

One of the last solid corners on my board. Not a game changer, but I had a B- on him. Still young, and there is some upside here. Houston, as a whole, had a down year.

Nick Perry OLB

Will play opposite Justin Houston. Perry has shown some hints of being a solid pass rusher. He'll get that chance with us. Obviously, he needs to continue to develop, but he's very young and we are hoping he'll continue to improve. (i.e. needs to improve against the run)

Jackson was a nice pick. He was on my short list for my #2 corner, and was my #1 choice for my #3 corner. Was rated very highly 2 years ago, not so much last year - hopefully it was just bad grades for the Texans defense as a whole and not regression for Jackson.

 

[deadlyrange0321]

Last two picks:

Kareem Jackson CB

One of the last solid corners on my board. Not a game changer, but I had a B- on him. Still young, and there is some upside here. Houston, as a whole, had a down year.

Nick Perry OLB

Will play opposite Justin Houston. Perry has shown some hints of being a solid pass rusher. He'll get that chance with us. Obviously, he needs to continue to develop, but he's very young and we are hoping he'll continue to improve. (i.e. needs to improve against the run)

Jackson was a nice pick. He was on my short list for my #2 corner, and was my #1 choice for my #3 corner. Was rated very highly 2 years ago, not so much last year - hopefully it was just bad grades for the Texans defense as a whole and not regression for Jackson.

Yea, I'm attributing that to a down year for Houston's defense in general. He's obviously shown flashes of being a really good corner before. I think he can find his groove with us.

 

[Whoosah]

Really don't know what to make of my DL:

Jonathan Massaquoi | Sharrif Floyd | Henry Melton | Ropati Pitoitua

My offense should be one of the better ones in this league, but scrapping for players on defense was going to be a challenge.

This could be surprisingly good or just a train wreck.... at least i think this DL will be better than what my Bears have in real life, haha.

 

[AwesomeAuger]

The Seahawks have two skipped picks and it's almost their pick again. Nate can you stop the clock once it reaches 19.07?

 

[FUBAR]

Not surprised to see Montee Ball taken soon after I took Lattimore. I debated between the two for a while. Almost went with the relative safety of Ball, I'm pretty sure he'll be a good RB. But opted to take the guy I think could become one of the top backs in the next few years. Behind Brown-Warmack-Ramirez-Sitton-Bushrod, either would likely have done well.

 

[Ndow89]

Seahawks set your predrafts please!

 

[egoo]

Seahawks set your predrafts please!

 

[Late225]

Anyone want to have some discussion on me taking Kirk Cousins as Peyton's backup?

I thought a few other quarterbacks on the board were more talented or had a higher upside, but I think Cousins really reminded me of someone who could succeed in a similar way that Peyton succeeds. I think Cousins is a cerebral quarterback who may not have the best arm strength, but with work it can be good enough. I think he can learn to make the right reads, quick decisions, and control the game at the line of scrimmage.

He just seemed like someone who could take over for Peyton after Peyton calls it quits. I thought of going Osweiler, but he just comes off as really goofy. I'm sure its not my best analysis, but he doesn't come off as someone who can lead a football team deep into the playoffs. I think Cousins could do that with the right supporting cast.

 

[FUBAR]

I think there are better QBs left than Cousins, but understand why you'd take him and Peyton is getting near retirement.

 

[Nate Blough]

The Seahawks have two skipped picks and it's almost their pick again. Nate can you stop the clock once it reaches 19.07?

Really? I understand wanting to wait but this is getting ridiculous. If he wants to draft thats fine, but checking in at least once a day shouldn't be much to ask.

 

[AwesomeAuger]

This is the last time we'll stop the clock for Nucker.

 

[deadlyrange0321]

This is the last time we'll stop the clock for Nucker.

I see he hasn't logged on the website in almost 5 days.

 

[Whicker]

This is the last time we'll stop the clock for Nucker.

I see he hasn't logged on the website in almost 5 days.

I hate to be the ####### on this one, but are we even sure of Nucker's commitment? He was one the drop outs in the middle of this draft last year, he has had at least 4-5 time outs in this one, the average wait time for his pick is seven and half hours (the next closest being five hours less, so it's not like this is just one overnight pick inflating his time), and now he hasn't been on in almost a week? I don't know about you guys but this isn't something that I could just forget I was participating in (in fact I make checking in an important part of my day), and it isn't like it takes any time at all to check in and know when it's getting close to your pick.I think we need to get a serious commitment from Nucker or come up with some kind of back-up plan, because I think the drop outs were one of the main reasons for this dying so early last year.

 

[AwesomeAuger]

This is the last time we'll stop the clock for Nucker.

I see he hasn't logged on the website in almost 5 days.

I hate to be the ####### on this one, but are we even sure of Nucker's commitment? He was one the drop outs in the middle of this draft last year, he has had at least 4-5 time outs in this one, the average wait time for his pick is seven and half hours (the next closest being five hours less, so it's not like this is just one overnight pick inflating his time), and now he hasn't been on in almost a week? I don't know about you guys but this isn't something that I could just forget I was participating in (in fact I make checking in an important part of my day), and it isn't like it takes any time at all to check in and know when it's getting close to your pick.I think we need to get a serious commitment from Nucker or come up with some kind of back-up plan, because I think the drop outs were one of the main reasons for this dying so early last year.

I'm thinking if we don't hear from him soon, we can form a committee to draft the remainder of his team. Any opinions on what to do?

 

[deadlyrange0321]

This is the last time we'll stop the clock for Nucker.

I see he hasn't logged on the website in almost 5 days.

I hate to be the ####### on this one, but are we even sure of Nucker's commitment? He was one the drop outs in the middle of this draft last year, he has had at least 4-5 time outs in this one, the average wait time for his pick is seven and half hours (the next closest being five hours less, so it's not like this is just one overnight pick inflating his time), and now he hasn't been on in almost a week? I don't know about you guys but this isn't something that I could just forget I was participating in (in fact I make checking in an important part of my day), and it isn't like it takes any time at all to check in and know when it's getting close to your pick.I think we need to get a serious commitment from Nucker or come up with some kind of back-up plan, because I think the drop outs were one of the main reasons for this dying so early last year.

I'm thinking if we don't hear from him soon, we can form a committee to draft the remainder of his team. Any opinions on what to do?

Yea, I suppose a committee would be fine. Although, I'd be willing to take over his team if needed. I only have 1 team (Bucs) and have been checking in very frequently.

 

[AwesomeAuger]

If we don't hear from him then you can take over the team. I only said committee because another whole team is a lot of effort to put on a single person.

 

[Late225]

Great pick by Barwin. He was neck and neck with Worilds for me. I feel sick to my stomach that Barwin was there another 10 rounds later or so. Barwin is a great and underrated player.

 

[AwesomeAuger]

Raiola has been my target at center for a while now. He's very old but he is coming off a good year and just signed a one year contract so he has no plans on retiring. In fact, I believe he has said he wants to play two more years.

 

[deadlyrange0321]

If we don't hear from him then you can take over the team. I only said committee because another whole team is a lot of effort to put on a single person.

I should be fine..both teams pick at opposite ends of the draft which should make things much easier.

 

[egoo]

Does anyone else frequently have a guy they are set on for a pick, and then last minute change to somebody else that you weren't even considering before? I've done this atleast 3 or 4 times in this draft. I had 1 player(who shall remain nameless) set as my top pre-draft selection since yesterday, with Connor Barwin at #2, and a 3rd player on there just in case my guy was taken...and then just before the Chargers made their pick I took all 3 of them off and took Shamarko. I wonder if I'm the only one that does this stuff or if it's normal, lol

 

[AwesomeAuger]

Does anyone else frequently have a guy they are set on for a pick, and then last minute change to somebody else that you weren't even considering before? I've done this atleast 3 or 4 times in this draft. I had 1 player(who shall remain nameless) set as my top pre-draft selection since yesterday, with Connor Barwin at #2, and a 3rd player on there just in case my guy was taken...and then just before the Chargers made their pick I took all 3 of them off and took Shamarko. I wonder if I'm the only one that does this stuff or if it's normal, lol

That's definitely not uncommon. I switched between 5 different players when I made my Woodhead pick. It's tough trying to predict how the draft will go which makes it tough to decide between role players.

 

[deadlyrange0321]

If we don't hear from him then you can take over the team. I only said committee because another whole team is a lot of effort to put on a single person.

If I do take over Seattle, I believe I'll have 3 picks to make right away to get us back on track.

 

[egoo]

Does anyone else frequently have a guy they are set on for a pick, and then last minute change to somebody else that you weren't even considering before? I've done this atleast 3 or 4 times in this draft. I had 1 player(who shall remain nameless) set as my top pre-draft selection since yesterday, with Connor Barwin at #2, and a 3rd player on there just in case my guy was taken...and then just before the Chargers made their pick I took all 3 of them off and took Shamarko. I wonder if I'm the only one that does this stuff or if it's normal, lol

That's definitely not uncommon. I switched between 5 different players when I made my Woodhead pick. It's tough trying to predict how the draft will go which makes it tough to decide between role players.

Ok, good...that makes me feel better about how much time I've spent on making these decisions. It's really tough because some of these guys can go 3 picks later(like Barwin did ) or they could last another 5+ rounds(like Shamarko might have if I hadn't taken him). It's really hard to tell

 

[AwesomeAuger]

If we don't hear from him then you can take over the team. I only said committee because another whole team is a lot of effort to put on a single person.

If I do take over Seattle, I believe I'll have 3 picks to make right away to get us back on track.

What do we think is reasonable? Give him until the end of the day?

 

[RBM]

Do it now. He's not comin back.

 

[deadlyrange0321]

If we don't hear from him then you can take over the team. I only said committee because another whole team is a lot of effort to put on a single person.

If I do take over Seattle, I believe I'll have 3 picks to make right away to get us back on track.

What do we think is reasonable? Give him until the end of the day?

I'm ready to make the picks now. Obviously, might have to retweak if some of the players are drafted.

 

[Ndow89]

Make the picks soon. He obviously isn't committed and it isn't fair to the rest of us.

 

[deadlyrange0321]

Make the picks soon. He obviously isn't committed and it isn't fair to the rest of us.

I won't be able to make them through the MFL site without his password, but I can just list them here.

 

[deadlyrange0321]

I'm just gonna go ahead and list the picks before I run out to lunch, here are the Seattle Seahawks make-up picks:

17.07 - Glenn Dorsey DT

18.26 - Sammie Lee Hill DT

19.07 - Kamerion Wimbley DE

 

[Ruemie]

Brandon Browner!? I thought he was suspended and couldn't play in 2014.

Word on the street is his appeal case is pretty strong and may only miss four games next season.

Not sure what street you are on, but that's not going to happen.

I know what street he was on! Love that Browner's indefinite suspension was upheld yesterday. I still think he'll miss 2/4 games, but I'm fine with that. Love that I got him in the 12th too. That's a huge boost to my secondary and pumped he'll be back in the league. Really interested to see where he signs in FA. Think a team will be able to get him on a cheap/short-term deal where his motivation will be through the roof. Now if he can stop being such a knucklehead

 

[Nate Blough]

Done. Thanks

 

[FUBAR]

Does anyone else frequently have a guy they are set on for a pick, and then last minute change to somebody else that you weren't even considering before? I've done this atleast 3 or 4 times in this draft. I had 1 player(who shall remain nameless) set as my top pre-draft selection since yesterday, with Connor Barwin at #2, and a 3rd player on there just in case my guy was taken...and then just before the Chargers made their pick I took all 3 of them off and took Shamarko. I wonder if I'm the only one that does this stuff or if it's normal, lol

I've done the same too often.

 

[deadlyrange0321]

On the make-up picks I made for Seattle:

Taking over this team after 16 picks had been made proved to be a challenge.

First, it was challenging trying to figure out what happened with the offense. There is literally a total lack of offensive talent. The o-line is pretty good, but when your QB is Dalton, and your only skill players are Stewart/Clay, you're in trouble. There is no AJ Green here for Dalton to throw to. With 3 make-up picks, I assumed I would be targeting offense. The only problem, there was little offensive talent worth grabbing at this juncture.

With that being said, I took a look at the defense. Couldn't figure out whether it was going 4-3 or 3-4. I decided we could go with both.

With the players that Nucker had already selected, I assumed Matthews at SLB, Worrilow at MLB, and Weatherspoon at WLB. From there, the D-Line will be Long and Wimbley at the DEs, and then Sammie Lee Hill/Glenn Dorsey at the 2 DTs.

In the 3-4 front, Wimbley would shift to OLB to pair with Matthews, and Weatherspoon/Worrliow at ILB. In this front, we would probably put Sammie Lee Hill at DE with Dorsey at NT where he's a really solid run defender.

Overall, it was difficult taking over a team this far into the draft and trying to figure out which way the team was being constructed. I will say that I shocked at the lack of offensive talent accumulated through the first half of the draft for this team. I'm not sure if the is enough talent to build a competent offense.

 

[Ndow89]

Yeah his team is full of head scratchers. Taking dalton in the first over some of the other remaining qbs was laughable. Especially when he gave him nothing to work with at receiver. Dalton would be awful if aj didn't bail him out all the time. Not smart to build your team around a guy who will always leave you disappointed in the playoffs.

 

[deadlyrange0321]

Yeah his team is full of head scratchers. Taking dalton in the first over some of the other remaining qbs was laughable. Especially when he gave him nothing to work with at receiver. Dalton would be awful if aj didn't bail him out all the time. Not smart to build your team around a guy who will always leave you disappointed in the playoffs.

Agreed....this team as currently constructed has a good O-Line, but what are they blocking for? Dalton to Clay? Jon Stewart? ...Not good

As I scan the available offensive talent, it becomes clear that I need to hit it out of the park in the rookie draft.

 

[FUBAR]

Yeah his team is full of head scratchers. Taking dalton in the first over some of the other remaining qbs was laughable. Especially when he gave him nothing to work with at receiver. Dalton would be awful if aj didn't bail him out all the time. Not smart to build your team around a guy who will always leave you disappointed in the playoffs.

"What's that like?" - Lions fan

 

[AwesomeAuger]

Makeup pick 19.31 Anthony Spencer.

I'm going to gamble that he'll get healthy.

 

[AwesomeAuger]

The choices at this point on defense are take a stopgap veteran who's average at best and most likely below average or take a gamble on a young guy. I opted to take a gamble with Bostic.