Build a FRANCHISE draft year 2 (1 Viewer)

[RBM]

Eli Manning at 4.22, wow. I was waiting for him to be taken. I had a late first round grade on him.

Been waiting for that. Shocking value. One other qb I'm shocked is still out there.

 

[Late225]

Eli Manning at 4.22, wow. I was waiting for him to be taken. I had a late first round grade on him.

Been waiting for that. Shocking value. One other qb I'm shocked is still out there.

Same. I took him around 17 last year.

 

[mlbnfl]

Was really hoping Monroe would fall to me I think, relative to when some other tackles went, he was great value.

 

[tennesseeTitans]

Seems I overslept. If it is still possible, I would like Brent Grimes (CB - Mia). Would this post be fine or should I post something on the draft site?

 

[Whicker]

Seems I overslept. If it is still possible, I would like Brent Grimes (CB - Mia). Would this post be fine or should I post something on the draft site?

This post will be fine. NateBlough will update the site whenever he sees it.

 

[egoo]

Not only was Eli a big steal, I'm surprised Talib fell as far as he did. When healthy he was as good as any corner in the league this year.

 

[mlbnfl]

Yeah there have been some good picks. My Short list was pretty decimated seeing Monroe and Tamba go and was also lookin at Talib. I get the Eli talk as he's done it before but maybe it's just my cowboys hate for all things Giants but he was pretty horrible last year, although it is a team game. I would have taken him over any QB at the time that's for sure but I definitely don't see his arrow as pointing up. All that bein said I still agree he's great value as the argument could be made he's as good as some guys taken late 1st even.

 

[Meecrob]

Summary of my teams so far

Houston:

QB - RG3

RB - Jamaal Charles

LT - Matt Kalil

WR- Eric Decker

Building a strong offense first for this team. RG3 and Charles give me two young premier players and I can run the read option, spread, or even run heavy-play action style offense. Trying to keep a balance with the rest of my picks to maintain that flexibility on offense.

Kansas City:

QB - Andrew Luck

WR - Brandon Marshall

DT - Kyle Williams

LB - Lavonte David

Going for balance on this team between offense and Defense; Luck to Marshall should be a great combo and on D I love the versatility David brings, He is all over the field. Kyle Williams has made 4 of the last 5 pro bowls at DT and is still only 30 great run stopper and also had 10.5 sacks last year, a solid anchor up the middle.

 

[RBM]

Big fan of Alex Smith. Thought he was a 2nd rounder. Last qb available that I'd be ok with and feel like my team could go all the way with.

 

[mlbnfl]

Hey guys Im stepping out for just a bit. If the guy OTC picks I shouldn't take long, I would predraft but I just don't know who I am going to pick yet so still thinking things over.

 

[AwesomeAuger]

I almost took Andre Johnson over Monroe for the Saints. He's getting up there in age but his remaining playing window matches up with Brady (~4 years). I thought his age might allow him to sneak into the 5th round. Good pick.

 

[seahawk 17]

I was going to go Trufant, very nice pick.

 

[EttorefromRome]

I was going to go Trufant, very nice pick.

I really like him, towards the end of the season he played himself into the DROY conversation. I hope he builds on his rookie season because he has all the tools in the world to be the next superstar CB

 

[AwesomeAuger]

Here's a list of my favorite and least favorite picks so far by round (my personal preference, excluding my own picks). I don't mean to offend anybody and even if your player is one of my "least" favorite picks in the round, that doesn't necessarily mean they are bad picks. That just means they are picks that I personally wouldn't have made.

Round 1
Favorite: Rivers 1.28 and Tannehill 1.27

Least: McCoy 1.13 and Kuechly 1.15

Getting a franchise QB at the end of round 1 is a win for both of those teams. McCoy and Kuechly are studs but they play what I would consider "low value" positions.

Round 2

Favorite: Jay Cutler 2.15 and Justin Houston 2.29

Least: Adrian Peterson 2.26

I had a mid first round grade on Cutler. Houston was deserving to be picked in the early second round. Adrian Peterson has been truly in a class of his own but moving forward it's hard to envision him being elite for more than a couple of years.

Round 3

Favorite: Larry Fitzgerald 3.28

Least: Ezekiel Ansah 3.4

I posted on Fitz before in this thread, but I think he can play at a high level through his mid/upper 30's. I felt like a lot of inferior receivers were taken before him for the sake of drafting young. Ansah could be great in the future. I honestly didn't really watch him this past year. However, he seems like a risky pick at this point of the draft.

Round 4

Favorite: Brandon Marshall 4.1

Least: Julius Thomas 4.13

When the Marshall pick was made, everybody applauded the pick on the boards. Julius Thomas could be worthy of a selection this high but it seems like a risky pick at this point of the draft. He does offer a unique combination of size, speed, and ball skills but he is too unproven for me to like this early.

 

[FUBAR]

Auger - agree on almost everything you wrote, even if you didn't list any of my picks. With Fitz, I think you're probably right, I just liked what I saw with Brown and as you mentioned, I went with youth over the better (so far) player. I wanted my core offense to age together, as Foles, Smith, and Brown will do. having Fitz would have given a veteran's presence and a future HOFer is usually a good thing. I won't call it a regret, but I would have waited as Brown may have fallen. I'm pretty happy with Mayo though, so maybe it's a wash.

Really like the way my Lions DLine is shaping up. Atkins, Johnson and (probably) Clowney would be a fearsome line, whatever 2nd DT we get will just be gravy. Johnson is one of the best DEs in run support and he does have a decent pass rush. Sitton was simply BPA and when Flacco has time to throw, he's damn good. Lions are built from the trenches.

 

[FUBAR]

Just to confirm, are we doing the rookie draft like a normal NFL (or FF) rookie draft?

 

[Soulfly3]

Round 1

Favorite: Rivers 1.28 and Tannehill 1.27

Least: McCoy 1.13 and Kuechly 1.15

Getting a franchise QB at the end of round 1 is a win for both of those teams. McCoy and Kuechly are studs but they play what I would consider "low value" positions.

Interesting... I dont mind the criticism at all, but Id like to hear more of why.

3 LBs were taken in the first round... I took mine, midway through the first, and I took the LB who is considered the unanimous #1 at the position. If we are building a franchise, what makes Kuechly less of a "value" or the worst pick, when he's 22yrs old and already the cream of the crop?

 

[FUBAR]

Round 1

Favorite: Rivers 1.28 and Tannehill 1.27

Least: McCoy 1.13 and Kuechly 1.15

Getting a franchise QB at the end of round 1 is a win for both of those teams. McCoy and Kuechly are studs but they play what I would consider "low value" positions.

Interesting... I dont mind the criticism at all, but Id like to hear more of why.

3 LBs were taken in the first round... I took mine, midway through the first, and I took the LB who is considered the unanimous #1 at the position. If we are building a franchise, what makes Kuechly less of a "value" or the worst pick, when he's 22yrs old and already the cream of the crop?

MLB vs. OLB

but I think he's a fine 1st round pick. There weren't many (any?) bad 1sts.

 

[Soulfly3]

Round 1

Favorite: Rivers 1.28 and Tannehill 1.27

Least: McCoy 1.13 and Kuechly 1.15

Getting a franchise QB at the end of round 1 is a win for both of those teams. McCoy and Kuechly are studs but they play what I would consider "low value" positions.

Interesting... I dont mind the criticism at all, but Id like to hear more of why.

3 LBs were taken in the first round... I took mine, midway through the first, and I took the LB who is considered the unanimous #1 at the position. If we are building a franchise, what makes Kuechly less of a "value" or the worst pick, when he's 22yrs old and already the cream of the crop?

MLB vs. OLB

but I think he's a fine 1st round pick. There weren't many (any?) bad 1sts.

On top of a million other things, I consider Kuechly's ability to play both olb and mlb another major plus. thought he will obviously be my mlb

 

[AwesomeAuger]

Aldon Smith and Von Miller are edge defenders and their primary responsibility is generating pressure. Kuechly is a damn good middle linebacker but the position is just not something I would invest in early.

Think of it this way. Would you draft a punter or kicker, even if they were by far the best at the position, in the first round? Obviously not because kickers and punters have relatively low positional value. It's the same thing in my opinion for middle linebackers. I may be wrong and there are always exceptions to the rule (Ray Lewis in his prime for example was worth an early first in a draft like this) but that's just my personal view. Last year I believe Willis and Bowman went in the first and, while they are absolute studs, I disagreed with the picks. In the first round I want a quarterback, a shutdown corner who I can play on an island, or an elite pressure generator.

 

[AwesomeAuger]

Just to confirm, are we doing the rookie draft like a normal NFL (or FF) rookie draft?

I never even considered that choice. Is there a general consensus/opinion on this?

I know personally, I think real NFL rookie draft style is the fairer of the two options (coming from the perspective of the 1.2 owner). However, if everybody wants it FF style, I am fine with that (coming from the perspective of the 1.2 owner ).

 

[Whicker]

Just to confirm, are we doing the rookie draft like a normal NFL (or FF) rookie draft?

I never even considered that choice. Is there a general consensus/opinion on this?I know personally, I think real NFL rookie draft style is the fairer of the two options (coming from the perspective of the 1.2 owner). However, if everybody wants it FF style, I am fine with that (coming from the perspective of the 1.2 owner ).

My understanding was that the rookie draft order is the opposite of the vet draft order. I've been drafting with the idea that I have the 1.5.

 

[AwesomeAuger]

Just to confirm, are we doing the rookie draft like a normal NFL (or FF) rookie draft?

I never even considered that choice. Is there a general consensus/opinion on this?I know personally, I think real NFL rookie draft style is the fairer of the two options (coming from the perspective of the 1.2 owner). However, if everybody wants it FF style, I am fine with that (coming from the perspective of the 1.2 owner ).

My understanding was that the rookie draft order is the opposite of the vet draft order. I've been drafting with the idea that I have the 1.5.

You do have the 1.5. The question is do you have the 1.5, 2.5, 3.5, etc. or the 1.5, 2.28, 3.5, etc.

 

[Soulfly3]

Aldon Smith and Von Miller are edge defenders and their primary responsibility is generating pressure. Kuechly is a damn good middle linebacker but the position is just not something I would invest in early.

Think of it this way. Would you draft a punter or kicker, even if they were by far the best at the position, in the first round? Obviously not because kickers and punters have relatively low positional value. It's the same thing in my opinion for middle linebackers. I may be wrong and there are always exceptions to the rule (Ray Lewis in his prime for example was worth an early first in a draft like this) but that's just my personal view. Last year I believe Willis and Bowman went in the first and, while they are absolute studs, I disagreed with the picks. In the first round I want a quarterback, a shutdown corner who I can play on an island, or an elite pressure generator.

fair enough. I obviously disagree, but see where you're coming from

 

[FUBAR]

Just to confirm, are we doing the rookie draft like a normal NFL (or FF) rookie draft?

I never even considered that choice. Is there a general consensus/opinion on this?I know personally, I think real NFL rookie draft style is the fairer of the two options (coming from the perspective of the 1.2 owner). However, if everybody wants it FF style, I am fine with that (coming from the perspective of the 1.2 owner ).

I meant FF style as in the same as NFL - rookie drafts I've seen have always been the same order throughout.

Given the pretty big advantage of the early vet picks, I'd think the fair option would be to keep the same order for each rookie round (opposite of the 1st vet round)

 

[FUBAR]

Just to confirm, are we doing the rookie draft like a normal NFL (or FF) rookie draft?

I never even considered that choice. Is there a general consensus/opinion on this?I know personally, I think real NFL rookie draft style is the fairer of the two options (coming from the perspective of the 1.2 owner). However, if everybody wants it FF style, I am fine with that (coming from the perspective of the 1.2 owner ).

My understanding was that the rookie draft order is the opposite of the vet draft order. I've been drafting with the idea that I have the 1.5.

You do have the 1.5. The question is do you have the 1.5, 2.5, 3.5, etc. or the 1.5, 2.28, 3.5, etc.

in case I'm being confusing, I'd give him the 1.5, 2.5, 3.5...

 

[Whicker]

Just to confirm, are we doing the rookie draft like a normal NFL (or FF) rookie draft?

I never even considered that choice. Is there a general consensus/opinion on this?I know personally, I think real NFL rookie draft style is the fairer of the two options (coming from the perspective of the 1.2 owner). However, if everybody wants it FF style, I am fine with that (coming from the perspective of the 1.2 owner ).

My understanding was that the rookie draft order is the opposite of the vet draft order. I've been drafting with the idea that I have the 1.5.

You do have the 1.5. The question is do you have the 1.5, 2.5, 3.5, etc. or the 1.5, 2.28, 3.5, etc.

Then how do you have the 1.2?Also for what it's worth, I have been drafting with the mindset that I also have the 2.5 and so on for the rookie draft but I won't mind the change if everyone agrees.

Edit: sorry didn't realize you meant vet 1.2.

 

[EttorefromRome]

Help me sort this out guys, since I picked 31st in the vet draft I thought that I would have 1.2 in the rookie draft, and I drafted accordingly. Am I mistaken?

 

[AwesomeAuger]

Just to confirm, are we doing the rookie draft like a normal NFL (or FF) rookie draft?

I never even considered that choice. Is there a general consensus/opinion on this?I know personally, I think real NFL rookie draft style is the fairer of the two options (coming from the perspective of the 1.2 owner). However, if everybody wants it FF style, I am fine with that (coming from the perspective of the 1.2 owner ).

My understanding was that the rookie draft order is the opposite of the vet draft order. I've been drafting with the idea that I have the 1.5.

You do have the 1.5. The question is do you have the 1.5, 2.5, 3.5, etc. or the 1.5, 2.28, 3.5, etc.

in case I'm being confusing, I'd give him the 1.5, 2.5, 3.5...

I agree personally.

 

[AwesomeAuger]

Help me sort this out guys, since I picked 31st in the vet draft I thought that I would have 1.2 in the rookie draft, and I drafted accordingly. Am I mistaken?

You have 1.2 in the rookie draft. The question is do you have 2.2, 3.2, 4.2, 5.2, etc. or is the order reversed on even rounds (you'd have 2.31, 4.31, etc.). So far it sounds like we have 3 people in favor of nfl-style rookie draft.

 

[EttorefromRome]

Help me sort this out guys, since I picked 31st in the vet draft I thought that I would have 1.2 in the rookie draft, and I drafted accordingly. Am I mistaken?

You have 1.2 in the rookie draft. The question is do you have 2.2, 3.2, 4.2, 5.2, etc. or is the order reversed on even rounds (you'd have 2.31, 4.31, etc.). So far it sounds like we have 3 people in favor of nfl-style rookie draft.

Ok thank you. Personally I wouldn't mind doing the reversal, whatever the majority of us agrees on would be fine with me

 

[FUBAR]

Giants: https://www.facebook.com/georgehtakei/photos/a.223098324386295.105971.205344452828349/877180122311442/?type=1&theater

 

[mlbnfl]

I can see the skepticism with the Ansah pick, although I do see a big future for him. I'm happy with how my teams started but I do wish I had taken a LB like Bobby Wagner instead of Ansah. Otherwise happy to have Dareus at NT with Aldon and Suggs taking down QBs and wanted a solid vet corner and Webbs been a stud before so wouldn't mind paring him with a young guy.

 

[Instinctive]

Big fan of Alex Smith. Thought he was a 2nd rounder. Last qb available that I'd be ok with and feel like my team could go all the way with.

Thanks.

I had the exact same sentiment. I was almost really stupid and took him heading into the turn though (I managed to wait until all those top 8 teams who took QBs early went). Caught myself just before I submitted picks.

 

[FUBAR]

Big fan of Alex Smith. Thought he was a 2nd rounder. Last qb available that I'd be ok with and feel like my team could go all the way with.

Thanks.

I had the exact same sentiment. I was almost really stupid and took him heading into the turn though (I managed to wait until all those top 8 teams who took QBs early went). Caught myself just before I submitted picks.

If I had known QBs would fall as much as they have, I'd have waited too.

 

[AwesomeAuger]

The Saint's first defensive pick is Keenan Lewis and I'm pretty shocked that so many corners went above him. Rob Ryan played Keenan Lewis on an island a lot this past year and Lewis proved he can be trusted with that responsibility. Having a player like that opens up a lot of possibilities on defense.

 

[Instinctive]

Big fan of Alex Smith. Thought he was a 2nd rounder. Last qb available that I'd be ok with and feel like my team could go all the way with.

Thanks.

I had the exact same sentiment. I was almost really stupid and took him heading into the turn though (I managed to wait until all those top 8 teams who took QBs early went). Caught myself just before I submitted picks.

If I had known QBs would fall as much as they have, I'd have waited too.

Benefit of doing this last year I suppose. Taking a guy like Ben in the 1st seemed insane to me. People say there were no bad picks but I think like 5-8 of the QBs taken have been.

 

[seahawk 17]

People hated my first pick for GB, and see a few of my other choices questioned, but when all is said and done that offense is going to be unstoppable.

* We're doing a Madden Sim correct?

 

[Soulfly3]

People hated my first pick for GB, and see a few of my other choices questioned, but when all is said and done that offense is going to be unstoppable.

* We're doing a Madden Sim correct?

Thatd be so sick

 

[AwesomeAuger]

Big fan of Alex Smith. Thought he was a 2nd rounder. Last qb available that I'd be ok with and feel like my team could go all the way with.

Thanks.

I had the exact same sentiment. I was almost really stupid and took him heading into the turn though (I managed to wait until all those top 8 teams who took QBs early went). Caught myself just before I submitted picks.

If I had known QBs would fall as much as they have, I'd have waited too.

Benefit of doing this last year I suppose. Taking a guy like Ben in the 1st seemed insane to me. People say there were no bad picks but I think like 5-8 of the QBs taken have been.

I would personally rather have Roethlisberger and a fourth round defensive player over McCoy and Alex Smith.

 

[RBM]

Big fan of Alex Smith. Thought he was a 2nd rounder. Last qb available that I'd be ok with and feel like my team could go all the way with.

Thanks.I had the exact same sentiment. I was almost really stupid and took him heading into the turn though (I managed to wait until all those top 8 teams who took QBs early went). Caught myself just before I submitted picks.

If I had known QBs would fall as much as they have, I'd have waited too.

Benefit of doing this last year I suppose. Taking a guy like Ben in the 1st seemed insane to me. People say there were no bad picks but I think like 5-8 of the QBs taken have been.

Can't agree with that. There's no way you can win without one, so making sure you get one is never a bad thing. The guys that don't have a qb yet....hard to understand what the thinking is there.

 

[AwesomeAuger]

People hated my first pick for GB, and see a few of my other choices questioned, but when all is said and done that offense is going to be unstoppable.

* We're doing a Madden Sim correct?

Thatd be so sick

If somebody has the time, go for it. It is very time intensive task so I'm not expecting it.

At a minimum, I'd like to gather a judging panel of at least a couple of people. I know last year I was able to get Cian Fahey from Footballguy's staff. If we could nab at least a couple of other qualified judges, that'd be great.

 

[AwesomeAuger]

Big fan of Alex Smith. Thought he was a 2nd rounder. Last qb available that I'd be ok with and feel like my team could go all the way with.

Thanks.I had the exact same sentiment. I was almost really stupid and took him heading into the turn though (I managed to wait until all those top 8 teams who took QBs early went). Caught myself just before I submitted picks.

If I had known QBs would fall as much as they have, I'd have waited too.

Benefit of doing this last year I suppose. Taking a guy like Ben in the 1st seemed insane to me. People say there were no bad picks but I think like 5-8 of the QBs taken have been.

Can't agree with that. There's no way you can win without one, so making sure you get one is never a bad thing. The guys that don't have a qb yet....hard to understand what the thinking is there.

If I left the first two rounds without a QB, I would be thanking every owner for Eli Manning.

 

[Whoosah]

Big fan of Alex Smith. Thought he was a 2nd rounder. Last qb available that I'd be ok with and feel like my team could go all the way with.

Thanks.I had the exact same sentiment. I was almost really stupid and took him heading into the turn though (I managed to wait until all those top 8 teams who took QBs early went). Caught myself just before I submitted picks.

If I had known QBs would fall as much as they have, I'd have waited too.

Benefit of doing this last year I suppose. Taking a guy like Ben in the 1st seemed insane to me. People say there were no bad picks but I think like 5-8 of the QBs taken have been.

Can't agree with that. There's no way you can win without one, so making sure you get one is never a bad thing. The guys that don't have a qb yet....hard to understand what the thinking is there.

I opted to not go QB early and was able to grab Nick Foles in the much later rounds. Call it lucky, but you can still find potential talent later on.

 

[Instinctive]

Big fan of Alex Smith. Thought he was a 2nd rounder. Last qb available that I'd be ok with and feel like my team could go all the way with.

Thanks.

I had the exact same sentiment. I was almost really stupid and took him heading into the turn though (I managed to wait until all those top 8 teams who took QBs early went). Caught myself just before I submitted picks.

If I had known QBs would fall as much as they have, I'd have waited too.

Benefit of doing this last year I suppose. Taking a guy like Ben in the 1st seemed insane to me. People say there were no bad picks but I think like 5-8 of the QBs taken have been.

I would personally rather have Roethlisberger and a fourth round defensive player over McCoy and Alex Smith.

Right. I'm saying that's insane to me. I'd rather have Smith straight up over Roethlisberger. I think the guy is horribly overrated. Through in arguably the best DT in the game (top 3 for sure) over some of the guys now (elite in only 1 dimension) on defense…it's not even close to me.

And I haven't looked at who picked Roeth. I'm not picking on you. There are other picks that there's no universe I'd have made them (Flacco, for instance. I'd take Smith straight up over Flacco).

 

[AwesomeAuger]

Big fan of Alex Smith. Thought he was a 2nd rounder. Last qb available that I'd be ok with and feel like my team could go all the way with.

Thanks.I had the exact same sentiment. I was almost really stupid and took him heading into the turn though (I managed to wait until all those top 8 teams who took QBs early went). Caught myself just before I submitted picks.

If I had known QBs would fall as much as they have, I'd have waited too.

Benefit of doing this last year I suppose. Taking a guy like Ben in the 1st seemed insane to me. People say there were no bad picks but I think like 5-8 of the QBs taken have been.

Can't agree with that. There's no way you can win without one, so making sure you get one is never a bad thing. The guys that don't have a qb yet....hard to understand what the thinking is there.

I opted to not go QB early and was able to grab Nick Foles in the much later rounds. Call it lucky, but you can still find potential talent later on.

On the other hand, I felt my Chiefs team was pretty talented last year. The only problem was that I ended up with Hasselbeck and Nassib at QB making my team lucky to win 2 games.

 

[AwesomeAuger]

Big fan of Alex Smith. Thought he was a 2nd rounder. Last qb available that I'd be ok with and feel like my team could go all the way with.

Thanks.

I had the exact same sentiment. I was almost really stupid and took him heading into the turn though (I managed to wait until all those top 8 teams who took QBs early went). Caught myself just before I submitted picks.

If I had known QBs would fall as much as they have, I'd have waited too.

Benefit of doing this last year I suppose. Taking a guy like Ben in the 1st seemed insane to me. People say there were no bad picks but I think like 5-8 of the QBs taken have been.

I would personally rather have Roethlisberger and a fourth round defensive player over McCoy and Alex Smith.

Right. I'm saying that's insane to me. I'd rather have Smith straight up over Roethlisberger. I think the guy is horribly overrated. Through in arguably the best DT in the game (top 3 for sure) over some of the guys now (elite in only 1 dimension) on defense…it's not even close to me.

And I haven't looked at who picked Roeth. I'm not picking on you. There are other picks that there's no universe I'd have made them (Flacco, for instance. I'd take Smith straight up over Flacco).

I guess there's a fundamental difference in player evaluation. I think you can build a team around Roethlisberger and he is a franchise QB. Ben isn't perfect but I think you can build an offense around him that you can be confident in. Alex Smith can keep you in games but I would never be confident in any offense that was built around Alex Smith.

 

[Soulfly3]

This whole "elite franchise QB" talk is pretty pointless for the purposes of this draft...

if you got a top pick, you got one.... if you didnt, you took a guy who "could" be one, or you scrounged for leftovers....

It was completely the luck of the draw, so arguing it is somewhat pointless.

 

[Instinctive]

Big fan of Alex Smith. Thought he was a 2nd rounder. Last qb available that I'd be ok with and feel like my team could go all the way with.

Thanks.I had the exact same sentiment. I was almost really stupid and took him heading into the turn though (I managed to wait until all those top 8 teams who took QBs early went). Caught myself just before I submitted picks.

If I had known QBs would fall as much as they have, I'd have waited too.

Benefit of doing this last year I suppose. Taking a guy like Ben in the 1st seemed insane to me. People say there were no bad picks but I think like 5-8 of the QBs taken have been.

Can't agree with that. There's no way you can win without one, so making sure you get one is never a bad thing. The guys that don't have a qb yet....hard to understand what the thinking is there.

I opted to not go QB early and was able to grab Nick Foles in the much later rounds. Call it lucky, but you can still find potential talent later on.

On the other hand, I felt my Chiefs team was pretty talented last year. The only problem was that I ended up with Hasselbeck and Nassib at QB making my team lucky to win 2 games.

I think I ended up with Locker and was #1 seed or made NFC Championship or something in the Madden sim. Most of the fun for me is trying different strategies anyway and with a bunch of people reaching IMO for QBs it was cool to get what fell.

 

[EttorefromRome]

Big fan of Alex Smith. Thought he was a 2nd rounder. Last qb available that I'd be ok with and feel like my team could go all the way with.

Thanks.I had the exact same sentiment. I was almost really stupid and took him heading into the turn though (I managed to wait until all those top 8 teams who took QBs early went). Caught myself just before I submitted picks.

If I had known QBs would fall as much as they have, I'd have waited too.

Benefit of doing this last year I suppose. Taking a guy like Ben in the 1st seemed insane to me. People say there were no bad picks but I think like 5-8 of the QBs taken have been.

Can't agree with that. There's no way you can win without one, so making sure you get one is never a bad thing. The guys that don't have a qb yet....hard to understand what the thinking is there.

I totally agree with you when you say that you can't win without a great quarterback, and that's the very reason why I still don't have one. Once the 7-8 Qb's that can take you all the way are gone, what's the point of taking one early? I'd much rather spend the early picks to try to build something special on D and then roll with a young guy at QB who hasn't reached his potential yet, rather than using a second rounder on someone who's ceiling is a divisional round exit à la Andy Dalton (no offense to who's got him, it's just that I don't like him).