Burress shoots himself in the leg (1 Viewer)

[PC Load Letter]

This really is an amazing story.I have been to a number of boards and have yet to see a word of concern about Burris.Only things like "I wish he would have shot himself in the head" "What a #######" "The guy is a loser" Guys like Burris truly believe it is all about them..now when something like this happens..nobody cares. Not even Giant fans.It is kind of sad.

Who's this Burris fellow?Do you ever make any non-fishing posts Guru?

 

[Da Guru]

This really is an amazing story.I have been to a number of boards and have yet to see a word of concern about Burris.Only things like "I wish he would have shot himself in the head" "What a #######" "The guy is a loser" Guys like Burris truly believe it is all about them..now when something like this happens..nobody cares. Not even Giant fans.It is kind of sad.

Who's this Burris fellow?Do you ever make any non-fishing posts Guru?

No such thing as fishing with burris.

 

[Big Score]

That went right over your didn't it?

We've been down this road once already link. Surely you don't need a repeat...or do you?

Well, you said you get it. But you don't. Acting like you get it doesn't mean you get it. In fact, when the person the makes the post gives you a confused look in response to your response, well that says it all. You didn't get it. You still don't get it.

You haven't made much sense so far, but let me see if I can decipher this catastrophe of a paragraph. Because you & the original poster didn't get the smiley sarcasm, that means I didn't get it, because you say I didn't get it, as I'm only acting like I get it, to say I get it, when I really don't get it.

Did I get it?

I never made any argument, if you go back and check.....

Hmmmmmmm.....

....I suspect he was suggesting that the US happens to be #1 in a lot of things. And directly comparing one thing to another is very difficult, considering the wildly high number of variables our society has in it.

I guess someone hijacked your account & posted that huh?

but like I said... keep arguing with some faceless entity about something It's not like anyone's reading your arguments.

Sure seems like someone is.

 

[T Bell]

That went right over your didn't it?

We've been down this road once already link. Surely you don't need a repeat...or do you?

Well, you said you get it. But you don't. Acting like you get it doesn't mean you get it. In fact, when the person the makes the post gives you a confused look in response to your response, well that says it all. You didn't get it. You still don't get it.

You haven't made much sense so far, but let me see if I can decipher this catastrophe of a paragraph. Because you & the original poster didn't get the smiley sarcasm, that means I didn't get it, because you say I didn't get it, as I'm only acting like I get it, to say I get it, when I really don't get it.

Did I get it?

I never made any argument, if you go back and check.....

Hmmmmmmm.....

....I suspect he was suggesting that the US happens to be #1 in a lot of things. And directly comparing one thing to another is very difficult, considering the wildly high number of variables our society has in it.

I guess someone hijacked your account & posted that huh?

but like I said... keep arguing with some faceless entity about something It's not like anyone's reading your arguments.

Sure seems like someone is.

You two homos need to get a room.

 

[Big Score]

You two homos need to get a room.

Zip it Tinker Bell. Don't you have some bags you need to go steal or something? :X

 

[phthalatemagic]

:X

That went right over your :whoosh: didn't it?

We've been down this road once already link. Surely you don't need a repeat...or do you?

Well, you said you get it. But you don't. Acting like you get it doesn't mean you get it. In fact, when the person the makes the post gives you a confused look in response to your response, well that says it all. You didn't get it. You still don't get it.

You haven't made much sense so far, but let me see if I can decipher this catastrophe of a paragraph. Because you & the original poster didn't get the smiley sarcasm, that means I didn't get it, because you say I didn't get it, as I'm only acting like I get it, to say I get it, when I really don't get it.

Did I get it?

I never made any argument, if you go back and check.....

Hmmmmmmm.....

....I suspect he was suggesting that the US happens to be #1 in a lot of things. And directly comparing one thing to another is very difficult, considering the wildly high number of variables our society has in it.

I guess someone hijacked your account & posted that huh?

but like I said... keep arguing with some faceless entity about something It's not like anyone's reading your arguments.

Sure seems like someone is.

This was fun. I bow to you. You are my superior.

 

[Big Score]

:X

That went right over your didn't it?

We've been down this road once already link. Surely you don't need a repeat...or do you?

Well, you said you get it. But you don't. Acting like you get it doesn't mean you get it. In fact, when the person the makes the post gives you a confused look in response to your response, well that says it all. You didn't get it. You still don't get it.

You haven't made much sense so far, but let me see if I can decipher this catastrophe of a paragraph. Because you & the original poster didn't get the smiley sarcasm, that means I didn't get it, because you say I didn't get it, as I'm only acting like I get it, to say I get it, when I really don't get it.

Did I get it?

I never made any argument, if you go back and check.....

Hmmmmmmm.....

....I suspect he was suggesting that the US happens to be #1 in a lot of things. And directly comparing one thing to another is very difficult, considering the wildly high number of variables our society has in it.

I guess someone hijacked your account & posted that huh?

but like I said... keep arguing with some faceless entity about something It's not like anyone's reading your arguments.

Sure seems like someone is.

This was fun. I bow to you. You are my superior.

Right back at ya :whoosh:

 

[FavreCo]

This really is an amazing story.

I have been to a number of boards and have yet to see a word of concern about Burris.

Only things like "I wish he would have shot himself in the head" "What a #######" "The guy is a loser"

Guys like Burris truly believe it is all about them..now when something like this happens..nobody cares. Not even Giant fans.

It is kind of sad.

Who's this Burris fellow?Do you ever make any non-fishing posts Guru?

Why, he is none other than....wait for it....Harris Smith. I guess Brock Middlebrook was still taken. The New York Post reports it was discovered yesterday that Giants WR Plaxico Burress had desperately tried to sidestep the law after the Midtown shooting incident - getting workers at the hot spot and at a top city hospital to lie for him, sources told The Post yesterday. Detectives last night seized the .40-caliber gun from his New Jersey home. His web of deceit included: Taking his gun from the Midtown club Latin Quarter, where workers never called authorities and even cleaned up afterward. Spending about 90 minutes making frantic calls to figure out where his wound could be discreetly treated. Getting special treatment at New York-Cornell Hospital, where he gave his name as Harris Smith, saying he'd been shot at an Applebee's restaurant. Nonetheless, hospital workers recognized him as WR Plaxico Burress, sources said, and the gunshot was not reported, as required by law. Police found the gun last night at the Super Bowl hero's Totowa home, sources said, after they were told it was in his kitchen. He was not home at the time. Burress, 31, will be slapped with a felony gun charge and plead not guilty, his lawyer said.

This guy is a complete idiot. Eli's best games this year have come with the idiot out of the lineup. Getting rid of Shockey was a great move. Getting rid of Plastic Bird#### will be an even better one.

 

[Addai's Adidas]

What kind of idiot carries with one in the chamber and the safety off? You should only have those two things happening at the same time if you are ready to shoot. Idiot. He deserves what he got, a shot in the leg. I don't know if what he gets later will be deserved, but...

 

[millertyme1]

I love this. Hope we never hear from this idiot again. Then we can finally take the I out of Plaxico. At least he won't have to report to training camp or OTA's again.

He always wanted special treatment, now this moron can get it behind bars. The Giants will have gotten rid of their 3 biggest cancers in 3 consecutive offseasons (Barber/Shockey/Burress). To me, that weighs just as much as all the wonderful drafting Reese and Co. have done.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

Sports center is reporting that it is a 3 1/2 yr minimum sentence if convicted, and that the DAs will only drop it down slightly. Also the mayor wants him prosecuted and that he lied to the hospital and that they didnt report the shooting as required by law. This is getting ugly.

 

[harryhood]

I love this. Hope we never hear from this idiot again. Then we can finally take the I out of Plaxico. At least he won't have to report to training camp or OTA's again. He always wanted special treatment, now this moron can get it behind bars. The Giants will have gotten rid of their 3 biggest cancers in 3 consecutive offseasons (Barber/Shockey/Burress). To me, that weighs just as much as all the wonderful drafting Reese and Co. have done.

read on the giants board, Peter King broke down the contract of Burress and the Giants financial situation next year. The could be heading into FA after this year at right around 20 million UNDER the cap once they cut him. Great front office work by Big Blue and it looks like they structured his contract correctly so that they aren't going to loose out.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Harris Smith is the new Ron Mexico.

Carry on.

 

[LarryAllen'sJockstrap]

Anyone here think he will actually serve any jail time?

It seems like the NY gun law is pretty clear that if you are convicted of carrying an illegal, loaded gun, the minimum sentance is 3 & 1/2 years.

It also seems like he going to have a tough time arguing he in fact was not carrying an illegal, loaded gun, considering it went off in his pants at a club.

 

[FavreCo]

I love this. Hope we never hear from this idiot again. Then we can finally take the I out of Plaxico. At least he won't have to report to training camp or OTA's again. He always wanted special treatment, now this moron can get it behind bars. The Giants will have gotten rid of their 3 biggest cancers in 3 consecutive offseasons (Barber/Shockey/Burress). To me, that weighs just as much as all the wonderful drafting Reese and Co. have done.

read on the giants board, Peter King broke down the contract of Burress and the Giants financial situation next year. The could be heading into FA after this year at right around 20 million UNDER the cap once they cut him. Great front office work by Big Blue and it looks like they structured his contract correctly so that they aren't going to loose out.

It's just a matter of time really before Reese reaches over and pulls the handle. Plastic Bird####-->

 

[fatness]

Anyone here think he will actually serve any jail time?

I have no idea and neither does anyone else at this point. But I'll play devil's advocate and say no, he won't serve jail time. In the early stages of press converage and internet talk about things like this, there's a rush of information people believe to be already true. Evidence the police supposedly have, plea bargain decisions that have already been made, things that are already proven or admitted to, etc. etc. And much of that early information turns out later, bit by bit, to be untrue, or to be questionable, or to not apply to the situation. Add to that the fact that early discussions of stuff like this usually has a high % of people who want a conviction, for something; and they begin convincing themselves and each other that a conviction is a near-certainty. And add to that any politicians or government figures who wish to gain some public notoriety. The early press is often much worse than the final outcome.Time passes, police investigate, some of what people thought to be true is not true, some is not provable beyond a reasonable doubt, prosecutors and lawyers have discussions about possible outcomes and pleas, and the final resolution is often much smaller, less clear, and less black-and-whit than what was initially thought.The most recent event I'm thinking of is the Marshawn Lynch driving escapade.

 

[FavreCo]

Anyone here think he will actually serve any jail time?It seems like the NY gun law is pretty clear that if you are convicted of carrying an illegal, loaded gun, the minimum sentance is 3 & 1/2 years.It also seems like he going to have a tough time arguing he in fact was not carrying an illegal, loaded gun, considering it went off in his pants at a club.

It will get reduced down to virtaully nothing. Burress will pay some coin, get flushed down the crapper by Reese and fall into the waiting arms of none other than Al Davis, who is waiting patiently at the other end. Sorry Burress owners, that's the best you can hope for.

 

[treat88]

Wow.

Regardless of the outcome, this has become one ugly situation.

 

[JamesTheScot]

And after the various shooting incidents, i'd be carrying a gun any time I'd be in situations with questionable people around me (clubs, events, parties), maybe not to the park or my kid's school....lol. Along with a few bodyguards as well.

Why not just avoid shady clubs, events, parties where you might have to worry about this????? Why not go to a club/events/parties that you don't have to worry about packing heat? Wouldn't that be the smart thing to do? Interesting that he was in NY not LA... makes more sense, as I have no idea why he'd fly to LA to go to a night club. Still, carrying a gun is not the answer... avoiding the problem all together is. You hang out with shady people what do you expect? You get involved in shady business. The guys who get/got shot are proof of that. Go to safer places and you won't have to deal with this from the get go.

Guess you can take the kid out of the ghetto but you can't take the ghetto out of the kid...

Any idea what police response time is to the corner diner, your office, the kids' school playground, the campus common, the grocery store parking lot or the corner of 5th Ave. and Main St.? God bless the police for the work they do but their track record for preventing harm from coming to anyone is pretty much 0% outside of hostage situations. Yet these are all places other than bars with "shady people" where you can still end up facing someone who intends to do you harm.In a relatively free society where we all enjoy the right to come and go as we please, there is always a chance that you can encounter someone who intends to do you harm and about the only person you can depend on for safety is yourself. You can lessen your risk by avoiding certain places, but only a fool..err statistic...believes he can eliminate the risk by doing so.

 

[JamesTheScot]

What kind of idiot carries with one in the chamber and the safety off?

Anyone who carries a Glock, a revolver or any number of the other double-action or striker fired pistols on the market.Chances are high that Burress's gun went off because he manipulated the trigger. I'm not saying that what Burress did was not stupid. You never touch the trigger until you are ready to fire.But carrying a gun with the safety off and with a round in the chamber isn't in and of itself unsafe. Guns almost never just "go off".

 

[JayMan]

... He'll probably come back to a run and shoot offense... any gunslinger would be proud to have him as a target...

(sorry - going back under my rock)

 

[bcr8f]

Anyone here think he will actually serve any jail time?

It seems like the NY gun law is pretty clear that if you are convicted of carrying an illegal, loaded gun, the minimum sentance is 3 & 1/2 years.

It also seems like he going to have a tough time arguing he in fact was not carrying an illegal, loaded gun, considering it went off in his pants at a club.

It will get reduced down to virtaully nothing. Burress will pay some coin, get flushed down the crapper by Reese and fall into the waiting arms of none other than Al Davis, who is waiting patiently at the other end. Sorry Burress owners, that's the best you can hope for.

QUOTEBloomberg tackled the Burress case head-on at the briefing, demanding that the district attorney throw the book at the Giants receiver and that he serve hard time, saying heads should roll at the elite hospital where sources told The Post workers lied for him, and reveal any shady dealings involved with the star's gunshot wound.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/12012008/news/...f_in_141719.htm

 

[harryhood]

Anyone here think he will actually serve any jail time?

It seems like the NY gun law is pretty clear that if you are convicted of carrying an illegal, loaded gun, the minimum sentance is 3 & 1/2 years.

It also seems like he going to have a tough time arguing he in fact was not carrying an illegal, loaded gun, considering it went off in his pants at a club.

It will get reduced down to virtaully nothing. Burress will pay some coin, get flushed down the crapper by Reese and fall into the waiting arms of none other than Al Davis, who is waiting patiently at the other end. Sorry Burress owners, that's the best you can hope for.

QUOTEBloomberg tackled the Burress case head-on at the briefing, demanding that the district attorney throw the book at the Giants receiver and that he serve hard time, saying heads should roll at the elite hospital where sources told The Post workers lied for him, and reveal any shady dealings involved with the star's gunshot wound.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/12012008/news/...f_in_141719.htm

lawyers find loopholes, nothing Bloomberg can do once this hits the court.

 

[JGalligan]

Anybody know anything more about what Antonio Pierce did exactly?

 

[kbreaker]

Anybody know anything more about what Antonio Pierce did exactly?

4 tackles, 2 assists

 

[harryhood]

Anybody know anything more about what Antonio Pierce did exactly?

reports are that he took the gun back to his place after it went off. basically covered up a felony transporting a weapon across state lines. (NY > NJ)

 

[harryhood]

Anybody know anything more about what Antonio Pierce did exactly?

4 tackles, 2 assists

 

[bcr8f]

Anybody know anything more about what Antonio Pierce did exactly?

He helped hide the gun.Plax did hire the lawyer that got P Diddy off for gun and bribery charges although it took almost 3 years. Plax could play until it's decided.

 

[deep vacuum]

Anyone here think he will actually serve any jail time?

It seems like the NY gun law is pretty clear that if you are convicted of carrying an illegal, loaded gun, the minimum sentance is 3 & 1/2 years.

It also seems like he going to have a tough time arguing he in fact was not carrying an illegal, loaded gun, considering it went off in his pants at a club.

It will get reduced down to virtaully nothing. Burress will pay some coin, get flushed down the crapper by Reese and fall into the waiting arms of none other than Al Davis, who is waiting patiently at the other end. Sorry Burress owners, that's the best you can hope for.

Tough choice. Jail, or play for Oakland.

 

[Henry Cabbot Henhouse]

Anyone here think he will actually serve any jail time?

It seems like the NY gun law is pretty clear that if you are convicted of carrying an illegal, loaded gun, the minimum sentance is 3 & 1/2 years.

It also seems like he going to have a tough time arguing he in fact was not carrying an illegal, loaded gun, considering it went off in his pants at a club.

It will get reduced down to virtaully nothing. Burress will pay some coin, get flushed down the crapper by Reese and fall into the waiting arms of none other than Al Davis, who is waiting patiently at the other end. Sorry Burress owners, that's the best you can hope for.

QUOTEBloomberg tackled the Burress case head-on at the briefing, demanding that the district attorney throw the book at the Giants receiver and that he serve hard time, saying heads should roll at the elite hospital where sources told The Post workers lied for him, and reveal any shady dealings involved with the star's gunshot wound.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/12012008/news/...f_in_141719.htm

lawyers find loopholes, nothing Bloomberg can do once this hits the court.

Not really much room for loopholes in this one.

 

[Henry Cabbot Henhouse]

It is going to be very interesting to see how the Giants respond to the media #### storm that this moron created.

 

[T Bell]

It is going to be very interesting to see how the Giants respond to the media #### storm that this moron created.

That's easy - they won't respond, at least not directly. They'll "let the investigation take its course", etc. They already urged the players behind the scenes to cooperate with authorities, and they'll make their decisions about disciplining/releasing the players involved. That'll be it.

 

[Tom Servo]

QUOTE

Bloomberg tackled the Burress case head-on at the briefing, demanding that the district attorney throw the book at the Giants receiver and that he serve hard time, saying heads should roll at the elite hospital where sources told The Post workers lied for him, and reveal any shady dealings involved with the star's gunshot wound.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/12012008/news/...f_in_141719.htm

That's rich. A man who is going to knowingly violate the city's term limit law by running for a 3rd term wants the book thrown as Burress. Physician, heal thyself!

 

[T Bell]

QUOTE

Bloomberg tackled the Burress case head-on at the briefing, demanding that the district attorney throw the book at the Giants receiver and that he serve hard time, saying heads should roll at the elite hospital where sources told The Post workers lied for him, and reveal any shady dealings involved with the star's gunshot wound.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/12012008/news/...f_in_141719.htm

That's rich. A man who is going to knowingly violate the city's term limit law by running for a 3rd term wants the book thrown as Burress. Physician, heal thyself!

And we all know that violation of gun laws is the same thing as mounting a legal challenge to term limit laws in court.

 

[Henry Cabbot Henhouse]

It is going to be very interesting to see how the Giants respond to the media #### storm that this moron created.

That's easy - they won't respond, at least not directly. They'll "let the investigation take its course", etc. They already urged the players behind the scenes to cooperate with authorities, and they'll make their decisions about disciplining/releasing the players involved. That'll be it.

I was referring to how the team will be impacted by the distraction. I am inclined to say it won't impact them at all but this is not going to go away anytime soon. Every time someone sticks a microphone in a Giants players face they are going to be hit with questions about Plexiglass. That #### gets old real quick.

 

[Henry Cabbot Henhouse]

QUOTE

Bloomberg tackled the Burress case head-on at the briefing, demanding that the district attorney throw the book at the Giants receiver and that he serve hard time, saying heads should roll at the elite hospital where sources told The Post workers lied for him, and reveal any shady dealings involved with the star's gunshot wound.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/12012008/news/...f_in_141719.htm

That's rich. A man who is going to knowingly violate the city's term limit law by running for a 3rd term wants the book thrown as Burress. Physician, heal thyself!

He deserves to have the book thrown at him. I hope the aggressively prosecute him. And Plexiglass should consider himself the luckiest man on Earth if he only gets 3 1/2 years in jail when he could have been facing manslaughter charges instead.

 

[Tom Servo]

QUOTE

Bloomberg tackled the Burress case head-on at the briefing, demanding that the district attorney throw the book at the Giants receiver and that he serve hard time, saying heads should roll at the elite hospital where sources told The Post workers lied for him, and reveal any shady dealings involved with the star's gunshot wound.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/12012008/news/...f_in_141719.htm

That's rich. A man who is going to knowingly violate the city's term limit law by running for a 3rd term wants the book thrown as Burress. Physician, heal thyself!

And we all know that violation of gun laws is the same thing as mounting a legal challenge to term limit laws in court.

Just saying that Bloomberg is not exactly the picture of morality and virtue here. Wait...he's a politician. Never mind...

 

[T Bell]

It is going to be very interesting to see how the Giants respond to the media #### storm that this moron created.

That's easy - they won't respond, at least not directly. They'll "let the investigation take its course", etc. They already urged the players behind the scenes to cooperate with authorities, and they'll make their decisions about disciplining/releasing the players involved. That'll be it.

I was referring to how the team will be impacted by the distraction. I am inclined to say it won't impact them at all but this is not going to go away anytime soon. Every time someone sticks a microphone in a Giants players face they are going to be hit with questions about Plexiglass. That #### gets old real quick.

It didn't seem to bother them on the field yesterday, and I don't think anyone's going to say much of anything. It's not like they're not used to media attention in NYC.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Not really much room for loopholes in this one.

Heller

 

[mbuehner]

What kind of idiot carries with one in the chamber and the safety off?

Anyone who carries a Glock, a revolver or any number of the other double-action or striker fired pistols on the market.Chances are high that Burress's gun went off because he manipulated the trigger. I'm not saying that what Burress did was not stupid. You never touch the trigger until you are ready to fire.But carrying a gun with the safety off and with a round in the chamber isn't in and of itself unsafe. Guns almost never just "go off".

Kinda begs the question of why they install a safety. Guns almost never just 'go off' but people inadvertly activate the trigger frequently enough to justify installing a failsafe mechanism. Thats exactly why there is a safety. Thats why you would be a fool not to keep the safety engaged unless you intend to fire the weapon. At least according to all the firearms training i've ever heard of, including the military.The real question is why the dope held on to the pistol. Didnt he ever see the Godfather? If he would have had one of his flunkies disapear the thing he'd probably not even end up being charged. But i guess the same stupidity that got him to that point in life precluded even that simple precaution.

 

[Yenrub]

Heard on the radio that Plax made bail and has a court date in March

 

[g5jamz]

Good thing Burress is just incredibly stupid and not unlucky to boot. Femoral artery can be fatal...just ask Sean Taylor.

What is it about athletes and these clubs they feel they need to go to?

Everytime I hear about crap like this I think of Chris Rock's black people vs. #####s routine where he talks about a cap needing to be shot at a movie someone likes. Can't keep a club open more than whatever... I'm sure there are sorry ### white clubs people go to...but rarely do you hear of high profile ones where people are getting shot.

Burress shouldn't play in the NFL for at least 2 years. Giants should be allowed to recoup money (ala Mike Vick). Antonio Pierce should be suspended for the rest of the season for conspiracy to commit a felony. Pierce is probably out of the woods because it sounds like he came clean and worked with the authorities, and probably told them where he hid the weapon. But he made a deal with the police...not Goodell.

 

[Henry Cabbot Henhouse]

It is going to be very interesting to see how the Giants respond to the media #### storm that this moron created.

That's easy - they won't respond, at least not directly. They'll "let the investigation take its course", etc. They already urged the players behind the scenes to cooperate with authorities, and they'll make their decisions about disciplining/releasing the players involved. That'll be it.

I was referring to how the team will be impacted by the distraction. I am inclined to say it won't impact them at all but this is not going to go away anytime soon. Every time someone sticks a microphone in a Giants players face they are going to be hit with questions about Plexiglass. That #### gets old real quick.

It didn't seem to bother them on the field yesterday, and I don't think anyone's going to say much of anything. It's not like they're not used to media attention in NYC.

It sure didn't, then again I don't think the news that he is facing 3 1/2 years in the pokey was widely known yesterday.This team seems unflappable but this could take the normal media pressure to an entirely different level.

 

[Da Guru]

I wonder if Burris will "Lose any sleep" over this?? Looks like he is going down.

 

[groin pains]

As a former law enforcement officer in New York I seriously doubt Plax sees any jail time at all. I am curious to see if the Giants are going to place him on the Non-football related injury IR. I would gamble that they will and do it quickly.

Has this POS even released a statement apologizing for what he has done??

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Anyone here think he will actually serve any jail time?

I have no idea and neither does anyone else at this point. But I'll play devil's advocate and say no, he won't serve jail time. In the early stages of press converage and internet talk about things like this, there's a rush of information people believe to be already true. Evidence the police supposedly have, plea bargain decisions that have already been made, things that are already proven or admitted to, etc. etc. And much of that early information turns out later, bit by bit, to be untrue, or to be questionable, or to not apply to the situation. Add to that the fact that early discussions of stuff like this usually has a high % of people who want a conviction, for something; and they begin convincing themselves and each other that a conviction is a near-certainty. And add to that any politicians or government figures who wish to gain some public notoriety. The early press is often much worse than the final outcome.Time passes, police investigate, some of what people thought to be true is not true, some is not provable beyond a reasonable doubt, prosecutors and lawyers have discussions about possible outcomes and pleas, and the final resolution is often much smaller, less clear, and less black-and-whit than what was initially thought.The most recent event I'm thinking of is the Marshawn Lynch driving escapade.

People thought that about Vick's case. We know how that turned out.

 

[groin pains]

Anyone here think he will actually serve any jail time?

I have no idea and neither does anyone else at this point. But I'll play devil's advocate and say no, he won't serve jail time. In the early stages of press converage and internet talk about things like this, there's a rush of information people believe to be already true. Evidence the police supposedly have, plea bargain decisions that have already been made, things that are already proven or admitted to, etc. etc. And much of that early information turns out later, bit by bit, to be untrue, or to be questionable, or to not apply to the situation. Add to that the fact that early discussions of stuff like this usually has a high % of people who want a conviction, for something; and they begin convincing themselves and each other that a conviction is a near-certainty. And add to that any politicians or government figures who wish to gain some public notoriety. The early press is often much worse than the final outcome.Time passes, police investigate, some of what people thought to be true is not true, some is not provable beyond a reasonable doubt, prosecutors and lawyers have discussions about possible outcomes and pleas, and the final resolution is often much smaller, less clear, and less black-and-whit than what was initially thought.The most recent event I'm thinking of is the Marshawn Lynch driving escapade.

People thought that about Vick's case. We know how that turned out.

Feds went after Vick!! Plax will not see any jail time. There will be a plea and it will be a case won by the Manhattan DA's office! He will probably plea to a class D felony or possibly an A misd! Ohhh and he will probably be looking for a job come next year. Paging Jerry Jones and Al Davis....

 

[ScottyFargo]

wow that's a great article, very detailed by the DailyNews.

might be a stupid question, but what happens if the cops never get the gun and never see Plax's wound? No gun, no crime? Would be very difficult to prove no?

Can any lawyers chime in?

Wouldn't the hospital have been required to report the gunshot wound?

HIPAA. They don't have to say boo.I think NYG cooperating with officials is more evidenced of them distancing themselves from this whole situation. It's not their fight, it's Plaxicos. I highly doubt they're ready to give up on this guy. I think this is more like "okay we're not getting involved. We'll cooperate 100% Plax you broke the law, and we're sorry, but we're not covering it up"

There would have been even worse issues for the Giants to deal with had they not said anything and then it was later found out they knew. The franchise is bigger than one player

Mayor Bloomberg would disagree with your assessment:

Bloomberg also had choice words for the hospital that failed to alert police that the victim of a gunshot wound was receiving treatment.

It's a misdemeanor, it's a chargeable offense, and I think that the district attorney should certainly go after the management of this hospital," Bloomberg said. "This is a world-class hospital in a city where we all know what goes on in the streets of our city and where all should be working to get guns off the street."

And despite prior reports that the Giants had alerted police to the shooting, Bloomberg said that authorities learned of it only through the media, and that the team didn’t report the incident.

“The hospital didn’t call and the Giants didn’t call,” Bloomberg said. “And the Giants should have picked up the phone right away as good corporate citizens. I don’t care whether [there is] the legal responsibility for them to do it.”

Bloomberg fuming of Plaxico Shooting

 

[cowboyz]

burress won't have his trial set until march.

and he's setting the stage to still play

the giants are trying to set the stage to get rid of him.

throw in drew rosenhaus.

of course, the giants are smarter than the eagles.

 

[TidesofWar]

Wow - a trial date of March 31?? NYC courts are mucho log-jammed!

Should have set it for April 1