Burress shoots himself in the leg (1 Viewer)

[fatness]

Mayor Bloomberg would disagree with your assessment:

Anything Bloomberg or any politician has to say about this is said only to get themselves in the media and build support for themselves. Media + moral indignation = votes

 

[fatness]

People thought that about Vick's case. We know how that turned out.

Let me know when the federal investigators are after Burress.

 

[-baller]

People thought that about Vick's case. We know how that turned out.

yeah - how'd the local case turn out?

 

[JamesTheScot]

What kind of idiot carries with one in the chamber and the safety off?

Anyone who carries a Glock, a revolver or any number of the other double-action or striker fired pistols on the market.Chances are high that Burress's gun went off because he manipulated the trigger. I'm not saying that what Burress did was not stupid. You never touch the trigger until you are ready to fire.

But carrying a gun with the safety off and with a round in the chamber isn't in and of itself unsafe. Guns almost never just "go off".

Kinda begs the question of why they install a safety. Guns almost never just 'go off' but people inadvertly activate the trigger frequently enough to justify installing a failsafe mechanism. Thats exactly why there is a safety. Thats why you would be a fool not to keep the safety engaged unless you intend to fire the weapon. At least according to all the firearms training i've ever heard of, including the military.The real question is why the dope held on to the pistol. Didnt he ever see the Godfather? If he would have had one of his flunkies disapear the thing he'd probably not even end up being charged. But i guess the same stupidity that got him to that point in life precluded even that simple precaution.

Um, they don't install manual safeties on many, many guns. If the trigger pull is sufficiently long and heavy, there is very, very little chance of accidentally firing the gun.In fact, the same things that cause gun triggers to get inadvertantly pulled are the same things that can indavertantly disengage a manual safety thus rendering the "failsafe" as you call it completely ineffective.

Most firearms training will teach you that the real safety is your trigger finger and your brain, not some mechanical device on your firearm. People careless enough to inadvertantly pull a trigger are also careless enough to inadvertantly disengage the safety or to never have engaged it to begin with.

 

[Spartans346]

Has anyone came up with a Plaxico version of Jaynee's (sp) got a gun?

 

[Oof!]

Anybody know anything more about what Antonio Pierce did exactly?

He helped hide the gun.Plax did hire the lawyer that got P Diddy off for gun and bribery charges although it took almost 3 years. Plax could play until it's decided.

P Diddy didn't have a pissed off commish and/or team to deal with, either.

 

[Stealthycat]

Um, they don't install manual safeties on many, many guns

list the maker and model numbers of those guns - I'm very very curious to see them .........

 

[Henry Cabbot Henhouse]

People thought that about Vick's case. We know how that turned out.

yeah - how'd the local case turn out?

It is far less likely that the New York Prosecutor is: 1) In bed with Plexiglass the way Gerald Poidexter was in bed with Vick & 2) Intimidated by the thought of going up against an OJ style dream team of lawyers like Poindexter was.I am quite sure he/she is thrilled with the prospect of taking down a high profile perp.

 

[renesauz]

If he's without the permit...It looks like he's screwed since the evidance seems overwhelming, and the sentenceing mandatory.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

 

[Da Guru]

Drew Rosenhous is hysterical.

It is amazng at how he changes his tune when trying to get a contract for a player, and when he is trying to save a players ###.

 

[FavreCo]

Drew Rosenhous is hysterical.It is amazng at how he changes his tune when trying to get a contract for a player, and when he is trying to save a players ###.

Blood Sucking Leech Rosenhaus. He's a pathetic sub-human.

 

[PosterNutBag]

We know that he is being charged with two counts of second-degree criminal possession of a weapon (both Class C felonies), which could result in a prison sentence of 3½ years to 15 years if he is convicted. From what I have read and seen on TV, the NY District Attorney's office has a strict policy of only pleading Class C felony charge down to Class D felony charges at best. Class D felony charges provide for a minimum of 2 years in jail.

Honestly, I don't see how the best attorney in the world can get Burress from avoiding jail time. There are indisputable facts that he had a loaded, unregistered gun and shot himself. It doesn't seem to me that it will be that difficult to prove those facts beyond a reasonable doubt. I think he definitely gets a minimum of 2 years assuming they plead down to a Class D felony. There is no way Burress' attorney will be able to plead it down any lower based on what I have read and heard since NYC is very tough with their gun laws and seemingly have a "can't lose" case against him.

We should hear more in the coming days since Burress reports to the Giants today, but I am very doubtful at this point that Burress will play again for the NY Giants given that he hasn't had much of an impact this season and that they can cut him before he is due a $1M roster bonus on 12/10.

It's possible the NYG might just decide to keep him for the rest of the season, though, since it only costs them an additional $1M. I am doubtful of this, though, since before this incident he has proven himself to be a clubhouse cancer. If you are still hesitant in cutting Burress and can afford the roster space, keep him for one more week and see whether or not the Giants pay him the $1M on 12/10. That is basically the deadline for the NYG to decide what they are doing with him this season. I am doubtful the NFL punishes him while the charges are still pending in this case.

 

[T Bell]

Drew Rosenhous is hysterical.It is amazng at how he changes his tune when trying to get a contract for a player, and when he is trying to save a players ###.

Blood Sucking Leech Rosenhaus. He's a pathetic sub-human.

He's advocating for his client. What gets me isn't what he's doing, but how he's doing it. He comes off as such a transparent clown, but it makes good TV so he gets airtime.

 

[harryhood]

(KFFL) ESPN.com reports New York Giants WR Steven Smith was robbed at gunpoint in the early hours of Nov. 25, after arriving home, according to Clifton, N.J., police. Smith had just returned to his townhouse in a chauffer-driven car when he was approached from behind by a man who held a gun to Smith's head, Clifton police Capt. Robert Rowan said. "He said to him, 'Give me everything you got,' and Mr. Smith turned over his jewelry and money and cell phone," Rowan said Tuesday, Dec. 2. The man left the scene and is still being sought, Rowan said. It was unclear if Smith's driver was at the townhouse during the hold-up.

This is an interesting story, which coincidentally was the day before the whole Plax thing. Not related at all but you know the defense is going to use every bit of this somehow.

 

[Woogie Lee]

Drew Rosenhous is hysterical.It is amazng at how he changes his tune when trying to get a contract for a player, and when he is trying to save a players ###.

Blood Sucking Leech Rosenhaus. He's a pathetic sub-human.

He's advocating for his client. What gets me isn't what he's doing, but how he's doing it. He comes off as such a transparent clown, but it makes good TV so he gets airtime.

He also has a nice leather jacket.

 

[Godsbrother]

(KFFL) ESPN.com reports New York Giants WR Steven Smith was robbed at gunpoint in the early hours of Nov. 25, after arriving home, according to Clifton, N.J., police. Smith had just returned to his townhouse in a chauffer-driven car when he was approached from behind by a man who held a gun to Smith's head, Clifton police Capt. Robert Rowan said. "He said to him, 'Give me everything you got,' and Mr. Smith turned over his jewelry and money and cell phone," Rowan said Tuesday, Dec. 2. The man left the scene and is still being sought, Rowan said. It was unclear if Smith's driver was at the townhouse during the hold-up.This is an interesting story, which coincidentally was the day before the whole Plax thing. Not related at all but you know the defense is going to use every bit of this somehow.

Okay but if Smith had a gun it is likely someone would be dead, either he or the robber. As it is he is out some jewelery, cash and a cell phone.

 

[harryhood]

(KFFL) ESPN.com reports New York Giants WR Steven Smith was robbed at gunpoint in the early hours of Nov. 25, after arriving home, according to Clifton, N.J., police. Smith had just returned to his townhouse in a chauffer-driven car when he was approached from behind by a man who held a gun to Smith's head, Clifton police Capt. Robert Rowan said. "He said to him, 'Give me everything you got,' and Mr. Smith turned over his jewelry and money and cell phone," Rowan said Tuesday, Dec. 2. The man left the scene and is still being sought, Rowan said. It was unclear if Smith's driver was at the townhouse during the hold-up.This is an interesting story, which coincidentally was the day before the whole Plax thing. Not related at all but you know the defense is going to use every bit of this somehow.

Okay but if Smith had a gun it is likely someone would be dead, either he or the robber. As it is he is out some jewelery, cash and a cell phone.

I just find this odd that the story now comes out, a day after legal experts say the Burress camp has no leg to stand on in court.

 

[JohnnyU]

Burress is dumber than a bag of hammers, and he has a stupid agent.

The Giants reportedly constructed Plaxico Burress' $35 million contract extension in such a way that a substantial amount could come off the books if the team cuts ties with him.

The Giants could clear $23 million off their payroll if they cut or trade Burress after the season. Knowing Burress' track record, they were careful not to include too much guaranteed money in the deal, which is proving to be a savvy move.

Source: New York Post

 

[groin pains]

According to a very good source Burress is as good as DONE playing for the NY Giants. Upper management is fuming over how many players were with Buress while he was carrying a loaded firearm! Hixon, Bradshaw, Pierce and a couple others! Additionaly, look for Pierce to be charged with Obstruction of Justice (OGA) and Tampering with Physical Evidence!

 

[GregR_2]

Has it been cleared up what the minimum sentences are for the crimes Bullethole Burress is being charged with?

 

[Chaka]

(KFFL) ESPN.com reports New York Giants WR Steven Smith was robbed at gunpoint in the early hours of Nov. 25, after arriving home, according to Clifton, N.J., police. Smith had just returned to his townhouse in a chauffer-driven car when he was approached from behind by a man who held a gun to Smith's head, Clifton police Capt. Robert Rowan said. "He said to him, 'Give me everything you got,' and Mr. Smith turned over his jewelry and money and cell phone," Rowan said Tuesday, Dec. 2. The man left the scene and is still being sought, Rowan said. It was unclear if Smith's driver was at the townhouse during the hold-up.This is an interesting story, which coincidentally was the day before the whole Plax thing. Not related at all but you know the defense is going to use every bit of this somehow.

Okay but if Smith had a gun it is likely someone would be dead, either he or the robber. As it is he is out some jewelery, cash and a cell phone.

I just find this odd that the story now comes out, a day after legal experts say the Burress camp has no leg to stand on in court.

He still has no leg to stand on in court. This is a complete non sequitur and if anything is a good example of why you don't need a gun and what you are supposed to do when being mugged. No one was hurt and Steve Smith is out some property, big deal. The important thing is that he is healthy and gets to go home to his family. No item of personal property or amount of money is worth your life. Plexiglass should have accepted that before he decided to go out strapped.

 

[PosterNutBag]

Has it been cleared up what the minimum sentences are for the crimes Bullethole Burress is being charged with?

I posted this in the other Burress thread, but I should probably do it here as well:

There are 2 charges against Burress:1) PL265.03(1)(b): Criminal possession of a weapon in the Second Degree2) PL265.03(3): Criminal possession of a weapon in the Second DegreeThe first charge makes it illegal for a person to possess a loaded firearm “with intent to use the same unlawfully against another.” The second charge removes the “intent” requirement, and generally prohibits possession of a loaded firearm outside of a person’s home or place of business.There is no way they will be able to prove the first charge, but it appears that the second charge will be pretty easy to prove given all that we know right now.Both of these charges are Class C felonies and subject to jail terms no less than 3.5 years if convicted.So intent has everything to do with a 3.5 year minimum sentence, but that is only for the first charge which seems like it will not be proven. Intent has nothing to do with the second charge, which appears easy to prove.

 

[Chaka]

Has it been cleared up what the minimum sentences are for the crimes Bullethole Burress is being charged with?

I believe it is 3 1/2 years for the gun posession, a class C felony, or 2 years if it is pleaded down to a class D felony.

 

[GregR_2]

Has it been cleared up what the minimum sentences are for the crimes Bullethole Burress is being charged with?

I posted this in the other Burress thread, but I should probably do it here as well:

There are 2 charges against Burress:1) PL265.03(1)(b): Criminal possession of a weapon in the Second Degree2) PL265.03(3): Criminal possession of a weapon in the Second DegreeThe first charge makes it illegal for a person to possess a loaded firearm “with intent to use the same unlawfully against another.” The second charge removes the “intent” requirement, and generally prohibits possession of a loaded firearm outside of a person’s home or place of business.There is no way they will be able to prove the first charge, but it appears that the second charge will be pretty easy to prove given all that we know right now.Both of these charges are Class C felonies and subject to jail terms no less than 3.5 years if convicted.So intent has everything to do with a 3.5 year minimum sentence, but that is only for the first charge which seems like it will not be proven. Intent has nothing to do with the second charge, which appears easy to prove.

The media had differing accounts, with some saying 3.5 years was the minimum and others saying 1 year was. Wondering if the confusion could be that 3.5 years is for the "with intent" charge, but maybe 1 year for the other without intent? I had googled and looked for what the minimum sentence was, and I found 1 year listed in some non-Burress related incidents.

 

[PosterNutBag]

Has it been cleared up what the minimum sentences are for the crimes Bullethole Burress is being charged with?

I posted this in the other Burress thread, but I should probably do it here as well:

There are 2 charges against Burress:1) PL265.03(1)(b): Criminal possession of a weapon in the Second Degree2) PL265.03(3): Criminal possession of a weapon in the Second DegreeThe first charge makes it illegal for a person to possess a loaded firearm “with intent to use the same unlawfully against another.” The second charge removes the “intent” requirement, and generally prohibits possession of a loaded firearm outside of a person’s home or place of business.There is no way they will be able to prove the first charge, but it appears that the second charge will be pretty easy to prove given all that we know right now.Both of these charges are Class C felonies and subject to jail terms no less than 3.5 years if convicted.So intent has everything to do with a 3.5 year minimum sentence, but that is only for the first charge which seems like it will not be proven. Intent has nothing to do with the second charge, which appears easy to prove.

The media had differing accounts, with some saying 3.5 years was the minimum and others saying 1 year was. Wondering if the confusion could be that 3.5 years is for the "with intent" charge, but maybe 1 year for the other without intent? I had googled and looked for what the minimum sentence was, and I found 1 year listed in some non-Burress related incidents.

No. It is 3.5 years minimum on each charge since they are both Class C felonies. As I posted in this thread in an early post (9:54am today), a Class D felony has a minimum sentence of 2 years (if the charge gets pleaded down). I am not sure if what you read was prior to charges being filed, but it appears that 1 year is misinformation based on my readings of everything.

 

[Chaka]

Has it been cleared up what the minimum sentences are for the crimes Bullethole Burress is being charged with?

I posted this in the other Burress thread, but I should probably do it here as well:

There are 2 charges against Burress:

1) PL265.03(1)(b): Criminal possession of a weapon in the Second Degree

2) PL265.03(3): Criminal possession of a weapon in the Second Degree

The first charge makes it illegal for a person to possess a loaded firearm "with intent to use the same unlawfully against another." The second charge removes the "intent" requirement, and generally prohibits possession of a loaded firearm outside of a person's home or place of business.

There is no way they will be able to prove the first charge, but it appears that the second charge will be pretty easy to prove given all that we know right now.

Both of these charges are Class C felonies and subject to jail terms no less than 3.5 years if convicted.

So intent has everything to do with a 3.5 year minimum sentence, but that is only for the first charge which seems like it will not be proven. Intent has nothing to do with the second charge, which appears easy to prove.

The media had differing accounts, with some saying 3.5 years was the minimum and others saying 1 year was. Wondering if the confusion could be that 3.5 years is for the "with intent" charge, but maybe 1 year for the other without intent? I had googled and looked for what the minimum sentence was, and I found 1 year listed in some non-Burress related incidents.

I am not sure if this is the same thing but Florio had some interesting information about the Intent charge and how the law in NY treats such things.

A New York lawyer who peruses PFT has alerted us to Section 265.15(4) of the New York Penal Law, which provides that “[t]he possession by any person of any dagger, dirk, stiletto, dangerous knife or any other weapon, instrument, appliance or substance designed, made or adapted for use primarily as a weapon, is presumptive evidence of intent to use the same unlawfully against another.”

That can't be good for Plexiglass.

 

[GregR_2]

Has it been cleared up what the minimum sentences are for the crimes Bullethole Burress is being charged with?

I posted this in the other Burress thread, but I should probably do it here as well:

There are 2 charges against Burress:

1) PL265.03(1)(b): Criminal possession of a weapon in the Second Degree

2) PL265.03(3): Criminal possession of a weapon in the Second Degree

The first charge makes it illegal for a person to possess a loaded firearm “with intent to use the same unlawfully against another.” The second charge removes the “intent” requirement, and generally prohibits possession of a loaded firearm outside of a person’s home or place of business.

There is no way they will be able to prove the first charge, but it appears that the second charge will be pretty easy to prove given all that we know right now.

Both of these charges are Class C felonies and subject to jail terms no less than 3.5 years if convicted.

So intent has everything to do with a 3.5 year minimum sentence, but that is only for the first charge which seems like it will not be proven. Intent has nothing to do with the second charge, which appears easy to prove.

The media had differing accounts, with some saying 3.5 years was the minimum and others saying 1 year was. Wondering if the confusion could be that 3.5 years is for the "with intent" charge, but maybe 1 year for the other without intent? I had googled and looked for what the minimum sentence was, and I found 1 year listed in some non-Burress related incidents.

No. It is 3.5 years minimum on each charge since they are both Class C felonies. As I posted in this thread in an early post (9:54am today), a Class D felony has a minimum sentence of 2 years (if the charge gets pleaded down). I am not sure if what you read was prior to charges being filed, but it appears that 1 year is misinformation based on my readings of everything.

I'm think there's probably a legitimate 1 year sentence somewhere that is being misapplied. I see it for things that have nothing to do with Burress. Actually, maybe the wording in this one, non-Burress related, might clear it up: http://www.queensdefense.com/guns.htm

Criminal Possession of a Weapon in the Second Degree is a class C felony, Third Degree is a class D felony, and Fourth Degree is a class A misdemeanor.

The class C felony is punishable by a maximum of 15 years in prison, the D felony by a maximum of 7 years in prison, and the A misdemeanor by a maximum of 1 year in jail. Also, there is a theoretical 1 year mandatory jail sentence on any felony gun conviction.

Based on that wording, I wonder if the confusion is that any felony gun conviction has a 1 year mandatory sentence, but this particular Class C felony has a 3.5 year mandatory sentence. So both apply, but obvious the 3.5 year one wins out?

 

[PosterNutBag]

Has it been cleared up what the minimum sentences are for the crimes Bullethole Burress is being charged with?

I posted this in the other Burress thread, but I should probably do it here as well:

There are 2 charges against Burress:

1) PL265.03(1)(b): Criminal possession of a weapon in the Second Degree

2) PL265.03(3): Criminal possession of a weapon in the Second Degree

The first charge makes it illegal for a person to possess a loaded firearm “with intent to use the same unlawfully against another.” The second charge removes the “intent” requirement, and generally prohibits possession of a loaded firearm outside of a person’s home or place of business.

There is no way they will be able to prove the first charge, but it appears that the second charge will be pretty easy to prove given all that we know right now.

Both of these charges are Class C felonies and subject to jail terms no less than 3.5 years if convicted.

So intent has everything to do with a 3.5 year minimum sentence, but that is only for the first charge which seems like it will not be proven. Intent has nothing to do with the second charge, which appears easy to prove.

The media had differing accounts, with some saying 3.5 years was the minimum and others saying 1 year was. Wondering if the confusion could be that 3.5 years is for the "with intent" charge, but maybe 1 year for the other without intent? I had googled and looked for what the minimum sentence was, and I found 1 year listed in some non-Burress related incidents.

No. It is 3.5 years minimum on each charge since they are both Class C felonies. As I posted in this thread in an early post (9:54am today), a Class D felony has a minimum sentence of 2 years (if the charge gets pleaded down). I am not sure if what you read was prior to charges being filed, but it appears that 1 year is misinformation based on my readings of everything.

I'm think there's probably a legitimate 1 year sentence somewhere that is being misapplied. I see it for things that have nothing to do with Burress. Actually, maybe the wording in this one, non-Burress related, might clear it up: http://www.queensdefense.com/guns.htm

Criminal Possession of a Weapon in the Second Degree is a class C felony, Third Degree is a class D felony, and Fourth Degree is a class A misdemeanor.

The class C felony is punishable by a maximum of 15 years in prison, the D felony by a maximum of 7 years in prison, and the A misdemeanor by a maximum of 1 year in jail. Also, there is a theoretical 1 year mandatory jail sentence on any felony gun conviction.

Based on that wording, I wonder if the confusion is that any felony gun conviction has a 1 year mandatory sentence, but this particular Class C felony has a 3.5 year mandatory sentence. So both apply, but obvious the 3.5 year one wins out?

That's interesting...thanks for the link. Your information seems to say that ANY felony gun conviction is a minimum one-year sentence. My information strictly says that a Class C felony is a min. 3.5 year sentence and Class D is a min. 2.0 year sentence. I wonder if the 1-year min. for all felonies is old and outdated since they updated their laws in recent years since it would seem that Class D is the lowest felony gun charge available.

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Does anyone else think the timing of Steve Smith (Giants) getting robbed at gunpoint in kind of suspicious?

Do you think it now gives Plaxico's team a reason for him to be carrying a gun? Maybe the team will be more understanding?

 

[BusMan]

Does anyone else think the timing of Steve Smith (Giants) getting robbed at gunpoint in kind of suspicious? Do you think it now gives Plaxico's team a reason for him to be carrying a gun? Maybe the team will be more understanding?

I thought I heard on Sirius NFL Radio this morning that it was Steve Smith's hired driver who held him up after driving him home. If so, wow. And what a dummy/jerk.

 

[Chaka]

Does anyone else think the timing of Steve Smith (Giants) getting robbed at gunpoint in kind of suspicious? Do you think it now gives Plaxico's team a reason for him to be carrying a gun? Maybe the team will be more understanding?

No, no and no.

 

[JamesTheScot]

Um, they don't install manual safeties on many, many guns

list the maker and model numbers of those guns - I'm very very curious to see them .........

Well, as I posted earlier, twice in fact i think, any revolver made by Colt, Smith & Wesson, Ruger, Taurus or any other major manufacturer lacks a safety. Pull the trigger and it goes boom. #### the hammer and pull the trigger and it goes boom. No external safeties to engage/disengage. Point and click in it's simplest form.As for semi-auto pistols we have by:Smith&Wesson: any Sigma model they've made, some of their 3rd generation double-action only (DAO) semi-auto's as well in the 10XX, 45XX, 39XX, 40XX models.Glock: any model they makeSpringfield: some XD modelsH&K: some USP models, the P7 series, some of the LEM equipped modelsRuger: some of their DAO P series semi-auto's as well as the LCP modelSig Saur: some of their DAO (P226 comes to mind) and "DAK" equiped semi-auto'sBeretta: some of their DAO semi-auto'sWalther: some of the P99'sKel Tec: I think most of their models lack external safeties (the PF-9 immediately comes to mind)Kahr: some of their DAO semi-auto's (the K9 immediately comes to mind)Basically, if there is a double action semi-auto made by an arms maker, you can usually find a DAO version of the pistol with no manual external safety or you can find it in a DA/SA configuration with a decocker - which isn't a safety. These guns are made this way so that the firearm can be brought to bear without the user having to take time to disengage the safety or...worse...forgetting to disengage it in a stressful and life-threatening situation where every split second can make the difference.Do you think I don't know what I'm talking about?

 

[JamesTheScot]

#### the hammer and pull the trigger and it goes boom.

That #### is supposed to be a synonym for "rooster", BTW.

 

[fatness]

Does anyone else think the timing of Steve Smith (Giants) getting robbed at gunpoint in kind of suspicious?

The nerve of Steve Smith --- getting robbed at a critical time like that. He needs to work on his timing.

 

[-baller]

can I ask how having a gun will help you while you are being robbed at gunpoint?

most likely scenarios would be helping you get shot or having your gun stolen

also, I heard a postgame bit on espn that said the mayor was steamed after diddy escaped jailtime so they then introduced the minimum 3 yr thing.

 

[Yenrub]

Outside of this incident has Plax had any other problems with the law?

 

[Koya]

Outside of this incident has Plax had any other problems with the law?

He has had a couple minor run-ins to my recollection, but nothing serious. While he has done some douchish things (i.e. returning a rental car with a ton of damages while trying not to pay for said damages), in my opinion he is not a bad guy. Never throws teamates under the bus, just is a problem child for lack of a better term. I would take Plax on my team any day over say T. Owens, whom has more talent, a lot more intelligence (Plax's biggest problem is he appears to be utterly stupid, and I dont mean that jokingly) but is a true cancerous presence in a clubhouse.IMO, the 3.5 year MINIMUM sentence is way out of line... it is likely there because more often than not cops can not get any hard evidence on a REAL ciminal (think rapist, murderer, drug dealers, gang members) so by instituting this law its an easy way to get someone off the street if only by their possession of a gun. But in a case like this, while Plax deserves some punishment, he had NO intent to do harm and again, this was more stupid than anything else.

 

[T Bell]

Outside of this incident has Plax had any other problems with the law?

He has had a couple minor run-ins to my recollection, but nothing serious. While he has done some douchish things (i.e. returning a rental car with a ton of damages while trying not to pay for said damages), in my opinion he is not a bad guy. Never throws teamates under the bus, just is a problem child for lack of a better term. I would take Plax on my team any day over say T. Owens, whom has more talent, a lot more intelligence (Plax's biggest problem is he appears to be utterly stupid, and I dont mean that jokingly) but is a true cancerous presence in a clubhouse.IMO, the 3.5 year MINIMUM sentence is way out of line... it is likely there because more often than not cops can not get any hard evidence on a REAL ciminal (think rapist, murderer, drug dealers, gang members) so by instituting this law its an easy way to get someone off the street if only by their possession of a gun. But in a case like this, while Plax deserves some punishment, he had NO intent to do harm and again, this was more stupid than anything else.

Ask Jayson Williams how much intent has to do with anything when dolts are handling firearms.Oh, and the couple of "minor run ins" he's had were domestic violence calls where he was getting physical with a woman. The dude's no saint. Say what you will about TO, but he's not abused any women to my knowledge.

 

[Otis]

Has this POS even released a statement apologizing for what he has done??

To whom? Himself? You people have an odd sense of justice.

 

[groin pains]

Dont know if mentioned....Official Plax to IR Non-Football related!!

 

[PosterNutBag]

Dont know if mentioned....Official Plax to IR Non-Football related!!

This is indeed the first mention. Here is the link and story:

WR Burress placed on NFI & suspended four games

By Michael Eisen, Giants.com DECEMBER 2, 2008

EAST RUTHERFORD, NJ - The Giants today placed wide receiver Plaxico Burress on the reserve/non-football injury list, officially ending his season. In addition, the team fined Burress and suspended him for four games for conduct detrimental to the team for multiple and repeated violations of club rules.

According to the league's Constitution and By-Laws, players who suffer an injury or illness unrelated to a football activity may be placed on reserve/NFI. Such players are not allowed to return to the club’s active list or practice for the remainder of the season, just as when a player is placed on injured reserve.

Burress met individually today with Giants president John Mara, general manager Jerry Reese and head coach Tom Coughlin.

“As we have said since Saturday morning, our concern is for Plaxico’s health and well-being,” Mara said. “This is an important time for him to take care of his body and heal up and also deal with the very serious legal consequences and other issues in his life. When I spoke with Plaxico he expressed great remorse for letting down his teammates.”

“Our concern all along has been for Plaxico the person, not Plaxico the player,” team chairman Steve Tisch said. “We are here to support him and his family as he recovers from his wound and deals with some serious issues.”

This is the second time the Giants suspended Burress this season. He missed the Oct. 2 game against Seattle while under suspension for conduct detrimental to the team, action the team took after Burress failed to report for work on Monday, Sept. 22, the day after a victory over Cincinnati. Burress also sat out the first quarter of the game at Pittsburgh on Oct. 26 after missing a scheduled treatment the previous day.

Burress arrived at Giants Stadium at approximately 9:30 this morning and underwent treatment for his strained hamstring and gunshot wound. At midday, he traveled into Manhattan to undergo an MRI and an examination by Dr. Scott Rodeo, one of the Giants team physicians. He retuned to the stadium at approximately 3:15 p.m., when Reese informed him he had been placed on reserve/NFI following the results of the exam by Dr. Rodeo and that he had been suspended for conduct detrimental to the team.

“The decision we made today regarding Plaxico's roster status was based on the examination of Plaxico by our team physician,” general manager Jerry Reese said. “Dr. Rodeo believes Plaxico would be out at least four to six weeks with the gunshot wound. I had two conversations with Plaxico today, and it was obvious that he understood the magnitude of this situation. He knows that we are here to support him and help him get healthy.”

This season, Burress is fourth on the team with 35 catches for 454 yards and four touchdowns. Burress joined the Giants as a free agent prior to the 2005 season and has since caught 244 passes for 3,681 yards and 33 touchdowns. In addition, he had a franchise postseason-record 11 receptions in the NFC Championship Game in Green Bay last Jan. 20 and scored the winning touchdown pass in Super Bowl XLII on a 13-yard pass from Eli Manning with 35 seconds remaining.

Domenik Hixon has started at split end for the Giants in the two games that Burress missed. Hixon caught a team-high–tying five passes last week in Washington and has 26 catches for 373 yards and a touchdown this season.

“When you lose a player of Plaxico’s ability, it is incumbent that everybody step up and fill the void,” Coach Tom Coughlin said. “In the last two seasons, this team has done an outstanding job of that. We made it clear to Plax today that we are here to support him in any way possible."

The Giants expect to fill Burress' roster spot tomorrow.

 

[PosterNutBag]

One thing not mentioned in the above article is how this affects (if at all) his pending $1M roster bonus. I am wondering if perhaps they cut him before the bonus is due on 12/10 (assuming the putting him on the reserve/non-football injury list does not postpone the due date of that bonus).

 

[Chaka]

Has this POS even released a statement apologizing for what he has done??

To whom? Himself? You people have an odd sense of justice.

I hear you but his negligence could just as easily have wounded or even killed a bystander. Just because he didn't accidentally kill or wound someone doesn't mean he has nothing to apologize for.

 

[-baller]

I had forgotten all about this vid --- perfect for this thread.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Are you letting teams put him on their injured reserve?

 

[two_dollars]

Are you letting teams put him on their injured reserve?

Why not? He's on the non-football injury IR. It's still IR. He's just wasting a roster spot, he won't play until next year if he avoids jail time.

 

[PosterNutBag]

Are you letting teams put him on their injured reserve?

Why not? He's on the non-football injury IR. It's still IR. He's just wasting a roster spot, he won't play until next year if he avoids jail time.

I agree. The official reason he is not playing is not b/c he is in jail or has charges against him ... it's because he is injured and the Giants put him on IR using the injury as the reason. If your league has IR, Burress should clearly be eligible for it unless your rules specifically exclude non-football injuries as a reason.

 

[Chaka]

Does anyone know anything about the actual extent of Plexiglass' injury?

Guys like Rome & Florio are talking about "wind tunnels through Plex's thigh", but the way he moved during his perp walk didn't seem to indicate a serious thigh injury.

Did the bullet need to be surgically removed from his thigh? Did it go all the way through the fleshy part of the thigh (props to Bobby Baccalieri) or did it just graze him?

 

[T Bell]

Does anyone know anything about the actual extent of Plexiglass' injury?Guys like Rome & Florio are talking about "wind tunnels through Plex's thigh", but the way he moved during his perp walk didn't seem to indicate a serious thigh injury.Did the bullet need to be surgically removed from his thigh? Did it go all the way through the fleshy part of the thigh (props to Bobby Baccalieri) or did it just graze him?

From what I've read it went completely through the fleshy part of the leg, without hitting any bone, nerves or important blood vessels. He should heal completely, though I don't know what the time frame would be for that.

 

[PosterNutBag]

Does anyone know anything about the actual extent of Plexiglass' injury?Guys like Rome & Florio are talking about "wind tunnels through Plex's thigh", but the way he moved during his perp walk didn't seem to indicate a serious thigh injury.Did the bullet need to be surgically removed from his thigh? Did it go all the way through the fleshy part of the thigh (props to Bobby Baccalieri) or did it just graze him?

From what I've read it went completely through the fleshy part of the leg, without hitting any bone, nerves or important blood vessels. He should heal completely, though I don't know what the time frame would be for that.

4-6 weeks according to the NYGiants' team physician being quote in yesterday's media reports.