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IDK what to think BTJ, his tape looks horrible

Small sample, but I think the splits on BJT playing with Trev Law and Mac Jones are interesting.

I've been jeered in the Shark Pool before for this, but I think Trev Lawrence is a below average NFL QB... if not for where he was drafted, he would be on his 2nd/3rd team by now. It's just not there. 5 yrs from now people will still be making excuses for him.
I'm not sure there's a recent comparison to a qb who has been as bad as he is getting such a pass. Daniel Jones maybe?

Tua, Bryce Bum for sure.

Stroud, McCarthy, Penix and Caleb all on my radar as potential bums in sheep clothing. Highly drafted QBs get a longer leash than most care to admit.
 
IDK what to think BTJ, his tape looks horrible

Small sample, but I think the splits on BJT playing with Trev Law and Mac Jones are interesting.

I've been jeered in the Shark Pool before for this, but I think Trev Lawrence is a below average NFL QB... if not for where he was drafted, he would be on his 2nd/3rd team by now. It's just not there. 5 yrs from now people will still be making excuses for him.
I'm not sure there's a recent comparison to a qb who has been as bad as he is getting such a pass. Daniel Jones maybe?

Tua, Bryce Bum for sure.

Stroud, McCarthy, Penix and Caleb all on my radar as potential bums in sheep clothing. Highly drafted QBs get a longer leash than most care to admit.
Tua had a really good year, and Young at least looked like he was turning a corner last season. Has TLaw had a good season yet?
 
IDK what to think BTJ, his tape looks horrible

Small sample, but I think the splits on BJT playing with Trev Law and Mac Jones are interesting.

I've been jeered in the Shark Pool before for this, but I think Trev Lawrence is a below average NFL QB... if not for where he was drafted, he would be on his 2nd/3rd team by now. It's just not there. 5 yrs from now people will still be making excuses for him.
I'm not sure there's a recent comparison to a qb who has been as bad as he is getting such a pass. Daniel Jones maybe?
Once the Mel Kiper's of the world put the (ridiculously over-used) "generational talent" label on you... franchises immediately pull the long rope off the top shelf and hand it to them.

Crazy that Trev Law and Mac Joners were in the same draft class... Jones on his 3rd team (and has always looked as good, if not better IMO).
 
IDK what to think BTJ, his tape looks horrible

Small sample, but I think the splits on BJT playing with Trev Law and Mac Jones are interesting.

I've been jeered in the Shark Pool before for this, but I think Trev Lawrence is a below average NFL QB... if not for where he was drafted, he would be on his 2nd/3rd team by now. It's just not there. 5 yrs from now people will still be making excuses for him.
I'm not sure there's a recent comparison to a qb who has been as bad as he is getting such a pass. Daniel Jones maybe?

Tua, Bryce Bum for sure.

Stroud, McCarthy, Penix and Caleb all on my radar as potential bums in sheep clothing. Highly drafted QBs get a longer leash than most care to admit.
Tua had a really good year, and Young at least looked like he was turning a corner last season. Has TLaw had a good season yet?

Ugly girl has had better stretches than Young has. People here still making excuses for the latter in eerily similar ways.
 
mixon? or is it more the OL that's the problem and not Chubb being old and slightly broken?
I would be surprised if Mixon plays this year.
Didn't know it was that bad. My bad then
The thing is, NOBODY knows if it's that bad or not. He's an IR slot lottery ticket that may never pay out, so I don't think you need to "buy" much. I don't think anyone should pursue trading for him though, given the liability risk. Unless we get word to the contrary I am also in the camp that he's not playing.
 
Last year the Saints were 2-0. They might have punted once in those games and they may have led the league in scoring. Carr was sharp, and Olave, Shaheed, Hill & Kamara were all rosterable. This isn’t a comp to any one player but it’s something to think about.
 
I guess AJ Brown hit this week.

Who’s the target this week in redraft?
Nico Collins. Texans are a dumpster fire. Defense will keep games close but we cannot run. CJ will be forced to throw and he’s the only option who can consistently get open. He’ll rebound if you can get him cheap.

Don’t expect crazy stats though is the challenge. Houston has a whole new offense to figure out but I assume most owners are starting to panic or already there.
 
I guess AJ Brown hit this week.

Who’s the target this week in redraft?
Nico Collins. Texans are a dumpster fire. Defense will keep games close but we cannot run. CJ will be forced to throw and he’s the only option who can consistently get open. He’ll rebound if you can get him cheap.

Don’t expect crazy stats though is the challenge. Houston has a whole new offense to figure out but I assume most owners are starting to panic or already there.
He just went off. No way that Collins owners are getting rid of him this week after they think they can breathe easy.
 
RB

A. Jeanty
C. Brown (if you think Browning can get it together as they'll play in catchup mode. It can't get worse).
T. Henderson

WR

L. McConkey -- Regardless of K. Allen and Q. Johnson's presence, I think he emerges again.
B. Thomas -- Caveat: The upcoming schedule is brutal. May get worse before it gets better. Could wait.
C. Ridley -- It has to get better.

TE

I. Likely
 
I guess AJ Brown hit this week.

Who’s the target this week in redraft?
Nico Collins. Texans are a dumpster fire. Defense will keep games close but we cannot run. CJ will be forced to throw and he’s the only option who can consistently get open. He’ll rebound if you can get him cheap.

Don’t expect crazy stats though is the challenge. Houston has a whole new offense to figure out but I assume most owners are starting to panic or already there.
He just went off. No way that Collins owners are getting rid of him this week after they think they can breathe easy.
His 50 yard TD was on a completely blown coverage by JAX where he was left completely unguarded and I wouldn't count on that most weeks. He had an okay PPR game outside of that but honestly he's a sell high in redraft IMO. He's got a good matchup against TENN this week but after that the schedule is rough for the next 4 games plus a Bye and the Texans offense is a total mess.
 
I guess AJ Brown hit this week.

Who’s the target this week in redraft?
Only CMC has more touches than Bucky Irving, and Irving is getting Tristan Wirfs back. Yards have been there, but TDs not so much, that feels VERY fluky.

Not sure if he'll be that available, but Tetairoa McMillan looks like a top-15 talent already, and Carolina likely never has a game script as bad as this week again. 0 TDs so far could make him cheaper than he should be.

Not a traditional buy-low, but I think a lot of people are gonna think Caleb Williams is a sell-high. I don't know about that, I think a top-5 season is absolutely on the table, given his defense and his rushing ability.
 
RB

A. Jeanty
C. Brown (if you think Browning can get it together as they'll play in catchup mode. It can't get worse).
T. Henderson

WR

L. McConkey -- Regardless of K. Allen and Q. Johnson's presence, I think he emerges again.
B. Thomas -- Caveat: The upcoming schedule is brutal. May get worse before it gets better. Could wait.
C. Ridley -- It has to get better.

TE

I. Likely
Fwiw I like Brown & Henderson, especially Henderson. Just on regression alone things have to improve in Cincy. & Henderson can help the Pats so they’ll turn to him soon enough.
 
Anyone able to get Lamb or too risky? Davante Adams too much?
Depends on your situation with the standings and playoff format. I would be looking to buy if I was in good shape for playoffs or top of standings. If you have the WR depth giving up Adams for Lamb is a solid offer. Not sure which side I would take.
 
I guess AJ Brown hit this week.

Who’s the target this week in redraft?
Nico Collins. Texans are a dumpster fire. Defense will keep games close but we cannot run. CJ will be forced to throw and he’s the only option who can consistently get open. He’ll rebound if you can get him cheap.

Don’t expect crazy stats though is the challenge. Houston has a whole new offense to figure out but I assume most owners are starting to panic or already there.
He just went off. No way that Collins owners are getting rid of him this week after they think they can breathe easy.
His 50 yard TD was on a completely blown coverage by JAX where he was left completely unguarded and I wouldn't count on that most weeks. He had an okay PPR game outside of that but honestly he's a sell high in redraft IMO. He's got a good matchup against TENN this week but after that the schedule is rough for the next 4 games plus a Bye and the Texans offense is a total mess.
I personally think it will get better for HOU. Collins is just too good. Wouldn't sell him unless I got a boat load back.
 
Anyone able to get Lamb or too risky? Davante Adams too much?
Depends on your situation with the standings and playoff format. I would be looking to buy if I was in good shape for playoffs or top of standings. If you have the WR depth giving up Adams for Lamb is a solid offer. Not sure which side I would take.
3-0 highest scoring team currently. If it’s not broke?

I have Pickens. It’s PPR we start 1RB, 1WR, 3 Flex per week.
CMC, Jentry, Adams, Ladd, Pearsall

Deebo, Pickens, Jamo
 
Anyone able to get Lamb or too risky? Davante Adams too much?
Depends on your situation with the standings and playoff format. I would be looking to buy if I was in good shape for playoffs or top of standings. If you have the WR depth giving up Adams for Lamb is a solid offer. Not sure which side I would take.
3-0 highest scoring team currently. If it’s not broke?

I have Pickens. It’s PPR we start 1RB, 1WR, 3 Flex per week.
CMC, Jentry, Adams, Ladd, Pearsall

Deebo, Pickens, Jamo
I would take Lamb in that scenario.
 
I'm buying Marvin Harrison Jr. He had 2 drops that would have accounted for ~107 yards and 2 TD's. I'm still buying the talent and expect better days ahead.

Same goes for Brian Thomas.

The FF community seems WAY more down on Marv right now. Between reading the interwebs, podcasts, and trade conversations: People seem to be totally done with Marv and not ready to discuss BTJ.

I've "bought" two shares of MHJ. One for Breece on a team stacked at RB. One for Pickens on a team stacked at WR. I realize a lot of people prefer Pickens, especially in the short term. I may be wrong in the end, but I preferred Harrison by quite a bit 3 weeks ago, and I'm not to the change my mind point yet.

BTJ owners are basically laughing me off when I try to inquire.
 
It's very hard to buy low on someone who just had a great week 3. FF'ers have a "what have you done for me lately" mentality. Here are a few guys I would consider buy-lows ATM:

RB Derrick Henry - After going off week 1, he's been bottled up twice and has 23 carries for 73 yards in his last 2. You can't downplay the nervousness people get when they see their RB fumbling. After fumbling 3 times in 652 touches over the last 2 seasons, he's done it 3 times in only 43 touches this year. Now you add in his age, and people are wondering if the cliff has arrived. He can definitely be had at a discount.

RB Chase Brown - Fairly normal score in week 1 because of the TD, but has been very ineffective. He has 55 touches, while the next highest CIN RB has 6. He is still a volume back and remember who he has played against - the only RB with any success was Bijan vs MIN. CLE absolutely shut down Derrick Henry and Josh Jacobs as well. Full disclosure - I have him and considered selling low, but after further digging, I am holding and hoping for some good games.
 
I think Tet is a great buy low right now. He hasn't blown up yet, the offense is still coming together. The talent is so obvious, the targets are there, and the metrics all line up. I think Bryce heats up and this connection is going to win leagues down the stretch. The last couple games he was missed a few times and it could've been a lot harder to get him.
 
I think Tet is a great buy low right now. He hasn't blown up yet, the offense is still coming together. The talent is so obvious, the targets are there, and the metrics all line up. I think Bryce heats up and this connection is going to win leagues down the stretch. The last couple games he was missed a few times and it could've been a lot harder to get him.
I don’t mind the thought, but would go for Coker who is nearly free. I think once he gets healthy he will be seeing a lot of targets in CAR.
 
The Jamar Chase panic is as widespread as it is surprising.

And irrational.

Browning kept him going as an every week starter last time this happened. One disastrous game is not enough for me to lose that memory but apparently is for many.
 
The question I have for the group is, who are you trying to send away while trying to buy low? Should we just be looking at this "buy low" list and match it up with the "sell high" post and try to make deals happen?

All that matters is your 7 or so offensive starters. You can overpay with a starter or backfill from your bench or the WW. If I send you Nico for Chase am I overpaying? Or am I improving because Nico got a bump last week that likely won’t repeat & Chase will soar next week with a better matchup after Browning settles down. On the wire that might look a terrible decision but it’s your judgment.
 
The Jamar Chase panic is as widespread as it is surprising.

And irrational.

Browning kept him going as an every week starter last time this happened. One disastrous game is not enough for me to lose that memory but apparently is for many.
He had the same kind of game in week 1 with Joe.
 
The Jamar Chase panic is as widespread as it is surprising.

And irrational.

Browning kept him going as an every week starter last time this happened. One disastrous game is not enough for me to lose that memory but apparently is for many.
He had the same kind of game in week 1 with Joe.
Fair enough.

Welp. Just sent BTJr & Pickens for him. Will report back results.
 
I think Tet is a great buy low right now. He hasn't blown up yet, the offense is still coming together. The talent is so obvious, the targets are there, and the metrics all line up. I think Bryce heats up and this connection is going to win leagues down the stretch. The last couple games he was missed a few times and it could've been a lot harder to get him.
He has the 7th most targets. I doubt many owners are willing to sell low on him
 
The Jamar Chase panic is as widespread as it is surprising.

And irrational.

Browning kept him going as an every week starter last time this happened. One disastrous game is not enough for me to lose that memory but apparently is for many.
He had the same kind of game in week 1 with Joe.
Fair enough.

Welp. Just sent BTJr & Pickens for him. Will report back results.
I think that’s a great trade for you.
 
The Jamar Chase panic is as widespread as it is surprising.

And irrational.

Browning kept him going as an every week starter last time this happened. One disastrous game is not enough for me to lose that memory but apparently is for many.
He had the same kind of game in week 1 with Joe.
Fair enough.

Welp. Just sent BTJr & Pickens for him. Will report back results.
I think that’s a great trade for you.
Not accepted or rejected yet but thx
 
mixon? or is it more the OL that's the problem and not Chubb being old and slightly broken?
I have mixon as a bench RB in nearly every league I own. and Chubb hasnt been good enough to make me think he will be anything more than a goal line back once Mixon returns. Chubb has not distinguished himself as a starter yet. and with double ACL surgery, I dont know that he ever will. Hes done. Might be ok as a goal line back
 
The Jamar Chase panic is as widespread as it is surprising.

And irrational.

Browning kept him going as an every week starter last time this happened. One disastrous game is not enough for me to lose that memory but apparently is for many.
true. but the line is in worse shape (in my opinion) than it was when he last stepped onto the field to start.

dont get me wrong, the line wasnt that good last time either. but I'd say its degraded since that time. THAT is certainly part of the problem.
 
The Jamar Chase panic is as widespread as it is surprising.

And irrational.

Browning kept him going as an every week starter last time this happened. One disastrous game is not enough for me to lose that memory but apparently is for many.
true. but the line is in worse shape (in my opinion) than it was when he last stepped onto the field to start.

dont get me wrong, the line wasnt that good last time either. but I'd say its degraded since that time. THAT is certainly part of the problem.
Cinci is screwed.

Dumped all their $ in Burrow, Chase, and now Higgins, hasn't done anything to improve the lines and the D.

Another wasted year for Cinci and the clock keeps ticking on this trio.
 
I think Tet is a great buy low right now. He hasn't blown up yet, the offense is still coming together. The talent is so obvious, the targets are there, and the metrics all line up. I think Bryce heats up and this connection is going to win leagues down the stretch. The last couple games he was missed a few times and it could've been a lot harder to get him.
I just am baffled by this take. Do you think anyone who drafted Tet is unhappy with his production so far? Because I think his value has risen since the draft, and absolutely nobody wants to sell, let alone give people a deal.

I think you mean "buy high" and hope he goes higher
 
I think Tet is a great buy low right now. He hasn't blown up yet, the offense is still coming together. The talent is so obvious, the targets are there, and the metrics all line up. I think Bryce heats up and this connection is going to win leagues down the stretch. The last couple games he was missed a few times and it could've been a lot harder to get him.
I just am baffled by this take. Do you think anyone who drafted Tet is unhappy with his production so far? Because I think his value has risen since the draft, and absolutely nobody wants to sell, let alone give people a deal.

I think you mean "buy high" and hope he goes higher
Sounds like you differ in opinion. What would either of you consider market value in redraft?

FWIW, he's not cracking many starting line-ups in my 10 team leagues.
 
I think Tet is a great buy low right now. He hasn't blown up yet, the offense is still coming together. The talent is so obvious, the targets are there, and the metrics all line up. I think Bryce heats up and this connection is going to win leagues down the stretch. The last couple games he was missed a few times and it could've been a lot harder to get him.
I just am baffled by this take. Do you think anyone who drafted Tet is unhappy with his production so far? Because I think his value has risen since the draft, and absolutely nobody wants to sell, let alone give people a deal.

I think you mean "buy high" and hope he goes higher
Tet is about where I thought he would be. maybe a little better. its early days. you wont really know how good Tet is until defenses get some tape on him to analyze and then they will modify how they defend the guy. if hes still producing then you know you've got a player.

most WR this process can happen over 2 or 3 years. sometimes 1. but thats a bit unusual.
 
Just sent BTJr & Pickens for him. Will report back results.
Rejected. No counter. No explanation.

That team is 1-2 and their other starting WR is London.

Hope they lose til they quit.
1-2 isnt throw in the towel time. if the guy thinks he can still turn it around he may stand by his guys. I cant fault him for that.

hes choosing not to panic and make a trade hes not sure about. Thats all.
 
Just sent BTJr & Pickens for him. Will report back results.
Rejected. No counter. No explanation.

That team is 1-2 and their other starting WR is London.

Hope they lose til they quit.
1-2 isnt throw in the towel time. if the guy thinks he can still turn it around he may stand by his guys. I cant fault him for that.

hes choosing not to panic and make a trade hes not sure about. Thats all.
I've started seasons 1-5 and made the playoffs.

No time to panic at 1-2.
 
Just sent BTJr & Pickens for him. Will report back results.
Rejected. No counter. No explanation.

That team is 1-2 and their other starting WR is London.

Hope they lose til they quit.
1-2 isnt throw in the towel time. if the guy thinks he can still turn it around he may stand by his guys. I cant fault him for that.

hes choosing not to panic and make a trade hes not sure about. Thats all.
I've started seasons 1-5 and made the playoffs.

No time to panic at 1-2.
100%

and I've found in fantasy football, sometimes you need to assume you are right and everyone else is wrong about some things.

just because you think an offer you made to someone is fair, doesnt mean they feel the same.

thats just the way it goes sometimes.
 

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