Caldwell's Time out Decision (1 Viewer)

[dhockster]

So Caldwell called timeout with :36 left and Jacksonville with a 2nd and 2 on their own 31 yard line. He said he wanted to try and stop them

and score and not go to OT. Whether you agree with him or not, that is what he said.

So my question is, if he was so scared of playing OT, why not try for the 2 point conversion with arguably the best QB in the history of the game, when

you scored with :48 left? Yes, you risk losing in regulation if you fail on the try, but you still get to attempt to stop them and get the ball back with

your 3 timeouts.

What a bad decision. It amazes me sometimes the people who get head coaching jobs.

 

[Slevin Kelevra]

So Caldwell called timeout with :36 left and Jacksonville with a 2nd and 2 on their own 31 yard line. He said he wanted to try and stop them

and score and not go to OT. Whether you agree with him or not, that is what he said.

So my question is, if he was so scared of playing OT, why not try for the 2 point conversion with arguably the best QB in the history of the game, when

you scored with :48 left? Yes, you risk losing in regulation if you fail on the try, but you still get to attempt to stop them and get the ball back with

your 3 timeouts.

What a bad decision. It amazes me sometimes the people who get head coaching jobs.

 

[Joe Bryant]

So Caldwell called timeout with :36 left and Jacksonville with a 2nd and 2 on their own 31 yard line. He said he wanted to try and stop themand score and not go to OT. Whether you agree with him or not, that is what he said.So my question is, if he was so scared of playing OT, why not try for the 2 point conversion with arguably the best QB in the history of the game, whenyou scored with :48 left? Yes, you risk losing in regulation if you fail on the try, but you still get to attempt to stop them and get the ball back withyour 3 timeouts.What a bad decision. It amazes me sometimes the people who get head coaching jobs.

I think this is a great topic.I love the time out though. Great call in trying to win the game. Obviously it didn't work, but I like the style. Make them punt and get the ball back and score.Now that's also a slap in the face to the Jaguars who got the last laugh with the appropriate comeback.Good all around.J

 

[Ghost Rider]

A ridiculously awful decision. If Andy Reid or Brad Childress had done the same thing, they would be getting killed for this on these forums. Not sure why Caldwell has gotten off relatively easy thus far.

Think about it. Say Indy stops Jax on the next two downs, take two timeouts, and then Jax punts. Indy probably gets the ball, barring a great return, at around their 20 or so, with no more than 20 seconds left. What are the odds of them getting far enough down field in 17 seconds to get in FG range, assuming the last play is one that goes out of bounds stopping the clock? Not good. Not good at all. Going to OT was their best bet at that point. Calling a timeout was an awful decision and ultimately cost the Colts the game.

 

[TommyGilmore]

So Caldwell called timeout with :36 left and Jacksonville with a 2nd and 2 on their own 31 yard line. He said he wanted to try and stop themand score and not go to OT. Whether you agree with him or not, that is what he said.So my question is, if he was so scared of playing OT, why not try for the 2 point conversion with arguably the best QB in the history of the game, whenyou scored with :48 left? Yes, you risk losing in regulation if you fail on the try, but you still get to attempt to stop them and get the ball back withyour 3 timeouts.

Calling the TO was a fairly low-risk move.Going for 2 is a very high-risk move.Caldwell was willing to make a low-risk move to avoid OT. He was NOT willing to make a high-risk move to avoid OT.

 

[dhockster]

So Caldwell called timeout with :36 left and Jacksonville with a 2nd and 2 on their own 31 yard line. He said he wanted to try and stop them

and score and not go to OT. Whether you agree with him or not, that is what he said.

So my question is, if he was so scared of playing OT, why not try for the 2 point conversion with arguably the best QB in the history of the game, when

you scored with :48 left? Yes, you risk losing in regulation if you fail on the try, but you still get to attempt to stop them and get the ball back with

your 3 timeouts.

What a bad decision. It amazes me sometimes the people who get head coaching jobs.

I said "arguably". Especially if you discount playoffs. Peyton Manning is the all time regular season champ! 91-25 since 2003 in the regular season.

 

[Lupe]

I liked the idea of a timeout there by Indy .... BUT NOT after they gain 8 yards on the first play. It was only 2nd and 2. At that point, you probably aren't gonna stop them from getting a first down, let the clock run out.

 

[Joe Bryant]

A ridiculously awful decision. If Andy Reid or Brad Childress had done the same thing, they would be getting killed for this on these forums. Not sure why Caldwell has gotten off relatively easy thus far. Think about it. Say Indy stops Jax on the next two downs, take two timeouts, and then Jax punts. Indy probably gets the ball, barring a great return, at around their 20 or so, with no more than 20 seconds left. What are the odds of them getting far enough down field in 17 seconds to get in FG range, assuming the last play is one that goes out of bounds stopping the clock? Not good. Not good at all. Going to OT was their best bet at that point. Calling a timeout was an awful decision and ultimately cost the Colts the game.

Thanks Ghost Rider.I'd take the other side of that and say Manning with 20 seconds to get into FG range is a better bet than the Jags driving it down for a field foal with :36 left. I like the idea of playing to get the ball right then and go for the win.I also kind of like the idea of going for two but that would never happen as it's too much against the book and Caldwell doesn't have that kind of job security to risk it.J

 

[dhockster]

So Caldwell called timeout with :36 left and Jacksonville with a 2nd and 2 on their own 31 yard line. He said he wanted to try and stop themand score and not go to OT. Whether you agree with him or not, that is what he said.So my question is, if he was so scared of playing OT, why not try for the 2 point conversion with arguably the best QB in the history of the game, whenyou scored with :48 left? Yes, you risk losing in regulation if you fail on the try, but you still get to attempt to stop them and get the ball back withyour 3 timeouts.

Calling the TO was a fairly low-risk move.Going for 2 is a very high-risk move.Caldwell was willing to make a low-risk move to avoid OT. He was NOT willing to make a high-risk move to avoid OT.

Let's say the average 2 point try has a 50% chance of success (I don't know the real success rate).Let's say Indy's success rate with Peyton Manning at QB is 70% (again, just an educated guess).So 30% of the time Indy misses the 2 point try. They then have :48 seconds left and 3 timeouts to try to get a FG to win the game. Based on Caldwell'sactual decision he must have thought there was a reasonable chance that they would succeed in this situation. Let's say 40% of the time. So based on that:70% of the time Indy is successful on their 2 point try12% of the time Indy is not successful on their 2 point try but they still get a FG to take the lead18% of the time Indy is not successful on their 2 point try and they don't get a FG and they lose the game.So 82% success/18% fail. Not so high risk, using Caldwell's established logic.What really doesn't make sense is Caldwell was trying to avoid OT because of his defense, and yet he assumed his defense could stop Jacksonvilleon a 2nd and 2 when they had been moving the ball all day. His logic is contradictory.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

If you trust your QB to go down the field in 20 seconds, you trust him to score if you win the toss in OT

If you trust your D to stop Jax and get the ball back with 20 seconds left, you trust them to stop them and get the ball back for your great QB to score and win the game if you lose the toss in OT

Terrible decision.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

So Caldwell called timeout with :36 left and Jacksonville with a 2nd and 2 on their own 31 yard line. He said he wanted to try and stop themand score and not go to OT. Whether you agree with him or not, that is what he said.So my question is, if he was so scared of playing OT, why not try for the 2 point conversion with arguably the best QB in the history of the game, whenyou scored with :48 left? Yes, you risk losing in regulation if you fail on the try, but you still get to attempt to stop them and get the ball back withyour 3 timeouts.

Calling the TO was a fairly low-risk move.Going for 2 is a very high-risk move.Caldwell was willing to make a low-risk move to avoid OT. He was NOT willing to make a high-risk move to avoid OT.

Let's say the average 2 point try has a 50% chance of success (I don't know the real success rate).Let's say Indy's success rate with Peyton Manning at QB is 70% (again, just an educated guess).So 30% of the time Indy misses the 2 point try. They then have :48 seconds left and 3 timeouts to try to get a FG to win the game. Based on Caldwell'sactual decision he must have thought there was a reasonable chance that they would succeed in this situation. Let's say 40% of the time. So based on that:70% of the time Indy is successful on their 2 point try12% of the time Indy is not successful on their 2 point try but they still get a FG to take the lead18% of the time Indy is not successful on their 2 point try and they don't get a FG and they lose the game.So 82% success/18% fail. Not so high risk, using Caldwell's established logic.What really doesn't make sense is Caldwell was trying to avoid OT because of his defense, and yet he assumed his defense could stop Jacksonvilleon a 2nd and 2 when they had been moving the ball all day. His logic is contradictory.

Average 2-point try is 42%.I'd give Peyton a boost, but no more than 60% for sure.Give them a few more % points to try and either onsides kick (which they surely would have if the 2-point was unsuccesful) or go 3-out and drive for a FG.Odds of getting an onsides kick are 20% (see Hot Reads this week for why).Odds of getting a FG from midfield are pretty at that point with Manning. Say at least 50/50.So win chances are:60% get the 2-pointer (generous)20% x 50% = 10% more for onsides / FG to winSo even if you say that the 2-point try is the NFL standard (42%), the odds favor going for two and the win, since it would be 42% + 10% = 52%. That's better than waiting on a coin flip in OT.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I've been somewhat surprised this decision did not get more attention nationally.

Bellichick got lacerated repeatedly for his call vs the Colts but this has gotten little notice.

Teams conserve their timeouts and then try to force the other team to spend theirs. It is part of the coaching handbook and it's a key part of coaching strategy.

Giving a team within shooting distance a free timeout is just bad coaching.

Getting the ball back to Manning on maybe the 20 with 20 seconds makes no sense either.

You really like the percentage of Manning going 50 yards (assuming a punt from the Jax 37 to say the Colts 20 or so and moving into FG territory) in 20 seconds better than Jax completing one 25 yarder (and now with the benefit of the extra timeout they have then the ability to go down the middle of the field instead of automatically to the sidelines, giving the DB's much more room to cover too)???

 

[TommyGilmore]

So Caldwell called timeout with :36 left and Jacksonville with a 2nd and 2 on their own 31 yard line. He said he wanted to try and stop themand score and not go to OT. Whether you agree with him or not, that is what he said.So my question is, if he was so scared of playing OT, why not try for the 2 point conversion with arguably the best QB in the history of the game, whenyou scored with :48 left? Yes, you risk losing in regulation if you fail on the try, but you still get to attempt to stop them and get the ball back withyour 3 timeouts.

Calling the TO was a fairly low-risk move.Going for 2 is a very high-risk move.Caldwell was willing to make a low-risk move to avoid OT. He was NOT willing to make a high-risk move to avoid OT.

Let's say the average 2 point try has a 50% chance of success (I don't know the real success rate).Let's say Indy's success rate with Peyton Manning at QB is 70% (again, just an educated guess).So 30% of the time Indy misses the 2 point try. They then have :48 seconds left and 3 timeouts to try to get a FG to win the game. Based on Caldwell'sactual decision he must have thought there was a reasonable chance that they would succeed in this situation. Let's say 40% of the time. So based on that:70% of the time Indy is successful on their 2 point try12% of the time Indy is not successful on their 2 point try but they still get a FG to take the lead18% of the time Indy is not successful on their 2 point try and they don't get a FG and they lose the game.So 82% success/18% fail. Not so high risk, using Caldwell's established logic.What really doesn't make sense is Caldwell was trying to avoid OT because of his defense, and yet he assumed his defense could stop Jacksonvilleon a 2nd and 2 when they had been moving the ball all day. His logic is contradictory.

Now re-do these calculations using the actual numbers.

 

[gradin123]

So Caldwell called timeout with :36 left and Jacksonville with a 2nd and 2 on their own 31 yard line. He said he wanted to try and stop them

and score and not go to OT. Whether you agree with him or not, that is what he said.

So my question is, if he was so scared of playing OT, why not try for the 2 point conversion with arguably the best QB in the history of the game, when

you scored with :48 left? Yes, you risk losing in regulation if you fail on the try, but you still get to attempt to stop them and get the ball back with

your 3 timeouts.

What a bad decision. It amazes me sometimes the people who get head coaching jobs.

I think this is a great topic.

I love the time out though. Great call in trying to win the game. Obviously it didn't work, but I like the style. Make them punt and get the ball back and score.

Now that's also a slap in the face to the Jaguars who got the last laugh with the appropriate comeback.

Good all around.

J

No. Really? I think they predetermined they were going to take the time out but there was no way they should have after a 8 yard gain on first down. If they don't call the time out there the game likely goes to overtime. If they gain 1 or 2 yards on first down then maybe it's the right move but even then it is debatable as the Jags if they were determined to run down the clock could have got it down to 25 seconds before the kick and forced INny to use all its timeouts.

So the best case scenario is Indy get the ball back on their own 30 with 20 seconds left and no time outs and Vinatieri isn't an effective long range kicker.

But Jacksonsville still had one time out left to so stopping the clock with a 2nd and 2 is just dumb.

 

[TWP]

At 2nd and 2 I dont see how this is anything but terrible.

 

[Ghost Rider]

A ridiculously awful decision. If Andy Reid or Brad Childress had done the same thing, they would be getting killed for this on these forums. Not sure why Caldwell has gotten off relatively easy thus far.

Think about it. Say Indy stops Jax on the next two downs, take two timeouts, and then Jax punts. Indy probably gets the ball, barring a great return, at around their 20 or so, with no more than 20 seconds left. What are the odds of them getting far enough down field in 17 seconds to get in FG range, assuming the last play is one that goes out of bounds stopping the clock? Not good. Not good at all. Going to OT was their best bet at that point. Calling a timeout was an awful decision and ultimately cost the Colts the game.

Thanks Ghost Rider.I'd take the other side of that and say Manning with 20 seconds to get into FG range is a better bet than the Jags driving it down for a field foal with :36 left. I like the idea of playing to get the ball right then and go for the win.

Okay, but if the Colts don't take that timeout, it is likely the Jags don't ever get into FG range. Had the Colts stopped them or even sacked them on first down, then, yeah, I could say maybe calling the timeout, as you then might be able to make a stop and get the ball back around the 35 or 40, but once it got to 2nd and 2, it was just an awful decision, IMO.

 

[cvnpoka]

So Caldwell called timeout with :36 left and Jacksonville with a 2nd and 2 on their own 31 yard line. He said he wanted to try and stop themand score and not go to OT. Whether you agree with him or not, that is what he said.So my question is, if he was so scared of playing OT, why not try for the 2 point conversion with arguably the best QB in the history of the game, whenyou scored with :48 left? Yes, you risk losing in regulation if you fail on the try, but you still get to attempt to stop them and get the ball back withyour 3 timeouts.

Calling the TO was a fairly low-risk move.Going for 2 is a very high-risk move.Caldwell was willing to make a low-risk move to avoid OT. He was NOT willing to make a high-risk move to avoid OT.

not really sure how you are assessing risk here. its more that its a high "profile" move that would open him up to absurd criticism from clowns like dilfer. calling the timeout is indeed a "high risk" move in that it likely decreases his teams chance of winning. it can be argued that going for 2 gives them the best chance at winning in the long run. ofc, the bill belichick fiasco has proven that casual fans and high paid observers are clueless about probability so its always better to lose quietly and extend games.

 

[CaptainHook]

I liked the idea of a timeout there by Indy .... BUT NOT after they gain 8 yards on the first play. It was only 2nd and 2. At that point, you probably aren't gonna stop them from getting a first down, let the clock run out.

agreed. once they got into such a favorable position it was stupid to call the TO

 

[Joe Bryant]

So Caldwell called timeout with :36 left and Jacksonville with a 2nd and 2 on their own 31 yard line. He said he wanted to try and stop them

and score and not go to OT. Whether you agree with him or not, that is what he said.

So my question is, if he was so scared of playing OT, why not try for the 2 point conversion with arguably the best QB in the history of the game, when

you scored with :48 left? Yes, you risk losing in regulation if you fail on the try, but you still get to attempt to stop them and get the ball back with

your 3 timeouts.

What a bad decision. It amazes me sometimes the people who get head coaching jobs.

I think this is a great topic.

I love the time out though. Great call in trying to win the game. Obviously it didn't work, but I like the style. Make them punt and get the ball back and score.

Now that's also a slap in the face to the Jaguars who got the last laugh with the appropriate comeback.

Good all around.

J

No. Really?

Yes, really. I'll take my chances with Manning scoring again with 20 seconds on the clock. But obviously some folks disagree. That's cool too.J

 

[TommyGilmore]

So Caldwell called timeout with :36 left and Jacksonville with a 2nd and 2 on their own 31 yard line. He said he wanted to try and stop themand score and not go to OT. Whether you agree with him or not, that is what he said.So my question is, if he was so scared of playing OT, why not try for the 2 point conversion with arguably the best QB in the history of the game, whenyou scored with :48 left? Yes, you risk losing in regulation if you fail on the try, but you still get to attempt to stop them and get the ball back withyour 3 timeouts.

Calling the TO was a fairly low-risk move.Going for 2 is a very high-risk move.Caldwell was willing to make a low-risk move to avoid OT. He was NOT willing to make a high-risk move to avoid OT.

not really sure how you are assessing risk here. its more that its a high "profile" move that would open him up to absurd criticism from clowns like dilfer. calling the timeout is indeed a "high risk" move in that it likely decreases his teams chance of winning.

If Indy hadn't called the timeout on 2nd-and-2, Jacksonville probably would have still scored the game winning FG. (Remember, Jacksonville had 1 timeout remaining.) I don't think the timeout had a very big effect on the outcome of the game.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

At 2nd and 2 I dont see how this is anything but terrible.

I'm surprised anyone is defending this. It's not like the Colts defense had stopped the Jaguars all day and Scobee had beaten the Colts twice previously with last-second 50+ FGs. A ticking clock should have been the Colts best friend at that point.

 

[Da Guru]

A ridiculously awful decision. If Andy Reid or Brad Childress had done the same thing, they would be getting killed for this on these forums. Not sure why Caldwell has gotten off relatively easy thus far.

Think about it. Say Indy stops Jax on the next two downs, take two timeouts, and then Jax punts. Indy probably gets the ball, barring a great return, at around their 20 or so, with no more than 20 seconds left. What are the odds of them getting far enough down field in 17 seconds to get in FG range, assuming the last play is one that goes out of bounds stopping the clock? Not good. Not good at all. Going to OT was their best bet at that point. Calling a timeout was an awful decision and ultimately cost the Colts the game.

It is because Caldwell is a quiet, low profile coach. A nobody. Heck..Manning was probably the one who was chirping in his ear to call the tO.

 

[Joe Bryant]

At 2nd and 2 I dont see how this is anything but terrible.

I'm surprised anyone is defending this. It's not like the Colts defense had stopped the Jaguars all day and Scobee had beaten the Colts twice previously with last-second 50+ FGs. A ticking clock should have been the Colts best friend at that point.

Thanks Plasma. I guess that's what makes Football fun for me - folks have different opinions. I'm actually a little surprised as many are against the play.I personally like the aggressive play of taking the other team out of what they're trying to do. I think the Jags wanted to just run out the clock. I like the Colts forcing their hand to do something they didn't want to do. Even if it ultimately worked against them. I'm sure you won't find them now, but I'd bet there were lots of Jags fans that hated the Colts calling timeout there as it happened.J

 

[TWP]

At 2nd and 2 I dont see how this is anything but terrible.

I'm surprised anyone is defending this. It's not like the Colts defense had stopped the Jaguars all day and Scobee had beaten the Colts twice previously with last-second 50+ FGs. A ticking clock should have been the Colts best friend at that point.

Thanks Plasma. I guess that's what makes Football fun for me - folks have different opinions. I'm actually a little surprised as many are against the play.I personally like the aggressive play of taking the other team out of what they're trying to do. I think the Jags wanted to just run out the clock. I like the Colts forcing their hand to do something they didn't want to do. Even if it ultimately worked against them. I'm sure you won't find them now, but I'd bet there were lots of Jags fans that hated the Colts calling timeout there as it happened.J

They have to stop MJD (a very good short yardage back) on 2nd and 2 and then on 3rd and 2. They then will likely be pinned fairly deep since the Jags were around mid-field. Then Manning has to bring them 50ish yards with around 20 seconds remaining and no timeouts. Sorry, Joe, this is just not good at all. If you give the Jags an extra TO there, they pretty surely would have called it and tried to move further down the field. The fact that they looked like they were running out the clock was a function of the number of TOs they had remaining. Give them another one and they are much more likely to try to go for the win. That's exactly what the Colts did.

 

[dhockster]

So Caldwell called timeout with :36 left and Jacksonville with a 2nd and 2 on their own 31 yard line. He said he wanted to try and stop themand score and not go to OT. Whether you agree with him or not, that is what he said.So my question is, if he was so scared of playing OT, why not try for the 2 point conversion with arguably the best QB in the history of the game, whenyou scored with :48 left? Yes, you risk losing in regulation if you fail on the try, but you still get to attempt to stop them and get the ball back withyour 3 timeouts.

Calling the TO was a fairly low-risk move.Going for 2 is a very high-risk move.Caldwell was willing to make a low-risk move to avoid OT. He was NOT willing to make a high-risk move to avoid OT.

not really sure how you are assessing risk here. its more that its a high "profile" move that would open him up to absurd criticism from clowns like dilfer. calling the timeout is indeed a "high risk" move in that it likely decreases his teams chance of winning.

If Indy hadn't called the timeout on 2nd-and-2, Jacksonville probably would have still scored the game winning FG. (Remember, Jacksonville had 1 timeout remaining.) I don't think the timeout had a very big effect on the outcome of the game.

Except if Indy had not called timeout, I think Jacksonville would have let the clock run. I don't think they would have ever been in position to kick the field goal."If they wanted to try to milk the clock in that situation, we certainly weren't going to allow it because we had enough timeouts to make them punt it to us," Colts coach Jim Caldwell said. "That was the idea."So Caldwell called timeout specifically because he thought they were trying to run the clock out. That only makes sense if he thought the Colts were more likely to score than the Jaguars given the game circumstance: Jaguars ball, 2nd and 2, on there own 31, Jaguars have 1 timeout, Colts have 2 Timeouts.The Jaguars had to gain a minimum of 30 yards with 1 TO in less than :36 seconds to have a shot at winning with a FG. The Colts had to stop the Jaguars on 2 defensive plays holding them to under 2 yards, get the ball back via a punt and then if that all works go at least 30 yards with probably no TO's and at best :20 seconds on the clock to get a shot at winning with a FG.Caldwell's mistake was thinking that if he called TO, Del Rio would still try to run the clock out. Del Rio figured, hey he has given me an extra timeout, I may as well go for the win. If Caldwell reads every situation the way he did this one, I'd love to play poker with him sometime.

 

[dhockster]

At 2nd and 2 I dont see how this is anything but terrible.

I'm surprised anyone is defending this. It's not like the Colts defense had stopped the Jaguars all day and Scobee had beaten the Colts twice previously with last-second 50+ FGs. A ticking clock should have been the Colts best friend at that point.

Thanks Plasma. I guess that's what makes Football fun for me - folks have different opinions. I'm actually a little surprised as many are against the play.I personally like the aggressive play of taking the other team out of what they're trying to do. I think the Jags wanted to just run out the clock. I like the Colts forcing their hand to do something they didn't want to do. Even if it ultimately worked against them. I'm sure you won't find them now, but I'd bet there were lots of Jags fans that hated the Colts calling timeout there as it happened.J

I can't give Caldwell credit for forcing the Jags to go for the win, when the chance of that happening was greater than the chance that Indy could get the ball back and get in a position to win the game. He in effect increased the Colts chances of losing.

 

[da_budman]

At 2nd and 2 I dont see how this is anything but terrible.

I'm surprised anyone is defending this. It's not like the Colts defense had stopped the Jaguars all day and Scobee had beaten the Colts twice previously with last-second 50+ FGs. A ticking clock should have been the Colts best friend at that point.

Thanks Plasma. I guess that's what makes Football fun for me - folks have different opinions. I'm actually a little surprised as many are against the play.I personally like the aggressive play of taking the other team out of what they're trying to do. I think the Jags wanted to just run out the clock. I like the Colts forcing their hand to do something they didn't want to do. Even if it ultimately worked against them. I'm sure you won't find them now, but I'd bet there were lots of Jags fans that hated the Colts calling timeout there as it happened.J

I don't understand that logic. How is giving the other team more time, and thus a better chance to do something on offense a good thing ? Best case scenario is a turnover there for Indy I suppose but I don't think I have ever seen a team plan for that. If they had sacked the qb, or held them for real short yardage i guess I could maybe see it but once it is 2nd and 2 you just let the clock run in my opinion (and take your chances in overtime).

 

[Ministry of Pain]

History repeats. Caldwell his horrible. I feel pretty safe in saying that the Colts will NEVER win a superbowl with Caldwell as the coach!

 

[Mr. Retukes]

I loved the look on Peyton's face when he found out that his coach had called a timeout.

 

[Gachi]

After Peyton retires the Colts will have a record along the lines of 4-12 and Caldwell will be gone. This has to be the luckiest coach in the league, he takes over a team with a hall of fame QB and makes it to the superbowl his first year. Manning won't always be able to bail him out, that showed in the game.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

History repeats. Caldwell his horrible. I feel pretty safe in saying that the Colts will NEVER win a superbowl with Caldwell as the coach!

I became a Caldwell hater when he decided to ignore a chance at perfection last year. Caldwell is outsmarting himself.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

History repeats. Caldwell his horrible. I feel pretty safe in saying that the Colts will NEVER win a superbowl with Caldwell as the coach!

I became a Caldwell hater when he decided to ignore a chance at perfection last year. Caldwell is outsmarting himself.

Same here. Have hated him ever since.

 

[munchkin]

History repeats. Caldwell his horrible. I feel pretty safe in saying that the Colts will NEVER win a superbowl with Caldwell as the coach!

I became a Caldwell hater when he decided to ignore a chance at perfection last year. Caldwell is outsmarting himself.

So you don't think that was Polian's decision? Well think again.

 

[TheWheel]

The Jets were going to pass the ball. They were still in iffy FG territory. They ran the ball to cut some clock. TIMEOUT. They are going to pass. You get an incompletion, it's third down. They only run if they trust Folk--it'd be a fifty yard FG. Get another incompletion and you still get a KR and 10-15 second if he makes it. Better than a walk off I guess

 

[Summer Wheat]

History repeats. Caldwell his horrible. I feel pretty safe in saying that the Colts will NEVER win a superbowl with Caldwell as the coach!

I became a Caldwell hater when he decided to ignore a chance at perfection last year. Caldwell is outsmarting himself.

Same here. Have hated him ever since.

Caldwell is a horrible HC. Probably the worst choice of any coach that was on the staff at the time. Dungy is good friends with Caldwell and that got into the way of a good business decision. Caldwell was horrible in college as well.

 

[Sam Quentin]

Interesting decision considering today's decision to sit on the ball at the end of the half with 46 seconds and a couple of timeouts

 

[atl3695]

History repeats. Caldwell his horrible. I feel pretty safe in saying that the Colts will NEVER win a superbowl with Caldwell as the coach!

I became a Caldwell hater when he decided to ignore a chance at perfection last year. Caldwell is outsmarting himself.

Same here. Have hated him ever since.

Caldwell is a horrible HC. Probably the worst choice of any coach that was on the staff at the time. Dungy is good friends with Caldwell and that got into the way of a good business decision. Caldwell was horrible in college as well.

I thought I remembered the announcers giving a stat about him having a good record in college during yesterday's game. Checked it, and he only had 1 winning year out of 8 at Wake Forest, and that was 7-5. One season removed from a Super Bowl, I think they have to bring him back next year but he is definitely on slipperly ground. They should be looking to bring in a good defensive coach as Peyton runs the offense anyway and most likely only has 3-4 more good years in him.

 

[Utter Chaos]

Does anybody else think the clock should have stopped after that last catch by Edwards? He caught the ball, landed in bounds and then touch the sideline before being touched by the Colt defender. It seems like as soon as he touched the sideline he should have been declared out of bounds and the clock stopped. The announcers only said that the clock kept going because he knee touched down in bounds (but he was never touched).

It's a moot point because the Jets would have ran another play with Sanchez trying to center the ball in the middle of the field and then called their time out

 

[CalBear]

Does anybody else think the clock should have stopped after that last catch by Edwards? He caught the ball, landed in bounds and then touch the sideline before being touched by the Colt defender. It seems like as soon as he touched the sideline he should have been declared out of bounds and the clock stopped. The announcers only said that the clock kept going because he knee touched down in bounds (but he was never touched).It's a moot point because the Jets would have ran another play with Sanchez trying to center the ball in the middle of the field and then called their time out

Yes, that was a bad call on the part of the refs; Edwards' knee had touched down, but the defender didn't touch him. The play should have been dead when the ball touched down out of bounds, therefore stopping the clock. But you're right, that call didn't make a difference.I also think calling the timeout is the right move. The Jets have the ball at the 32 yard line, second and 8 with 29 seconds to go and one timeout. They have plenty of time to run another play and call timeout, so the Colts' timeout doesn't give them any additional chances. If Edwards doesn't catch that ball it's third and 8 at the 32 with 23 seconds left; at that point you know the Jets will at least have to kick to you. If you want to talk about a nearly colossally stupid decision, Ryan looked like he was thinking of calling a timeout to ice Vinatieri. Leaving aside the fact that icing the kicker is colossally stupid in itself, using a timeout to do it with 57 seconds left would have been insane.

 

[Phurfur]

History repeats. Caldwell his horrible. I feel pretty safe in saying that the Colts will NEVER win a superbowl with Caldwell as the coach!

I became a Caldwell hater when he decided to ignore a chance at perfection last year. Caldwell is outsmarting himself.

Same here. Have hated him ever since.

Caldwell is a horrible HC. Probably the worst choice of any coach that was on the staff at the time. Dungy is good friends with Caldwell and that got into the way of a good business decision. Caldwell was horrible in college as well.

I thought I remembered the announcers giving a stat about him having a good record in college during yesterday's game. Checked it, and he only had 1 winning year out of 8 at Wake Forest, and that was 7-5. One season removed from a Super Bowl, I think they have to bring him back next year but he is definitely on slipperly ground. They should be looking to bring in a good defensive coach as Peyton runs the offense anyway and most likely only has 3-4 more good years in him.

This is just one more reason to watch the game with the sound off.

 

[Phurfur]

History repeats. Caldwell his horrible. I feel pretty safe in saying that the Colts will NEVER win a superbowl with Caldwell as the coach!

I became a Caldwell hater when he decided to ignore a chance at perfection last year. Caldwell is outsmarting himself.

So you don't think that was Polian's decision? Well think again.

Link?

 

[yetiknight]

I'm more disturbed by the blatant push by Edwards. I know its the playoffs, but if Lacey is breathing too heavy that is a PI call on him. Edwards clearly uses his left hand to clear Lacey out of the path of the ball by pushing him upfield. I haven't even heard it mentioned by anyone.

I don't like the timeout call at all, but Folk may have made the kick from there anyway. You give yourself a shot at a KR or more by conserving that time. You still gotta play defense for another play either way. Personally, I don't like giving my opponent time to regroup.