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This is some pretty good stuff from Bill Baldinger on NFL.com... it says a lot about our young prospecthttp://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8226cf82/article/moon-feels-vindicated-for-defending-panthers-qb-newton?module=HP11_headline_stack
Love his quote, "this is Robert Redford in The Natural"I keep not wanting to sell the farm to get him in dynasty but I'm losing my patience. We might be seeing the beginning of not just the best qb ever but the best football player of all time.I know it's early but this is hollywood movie stuff, it isn't supposed to happen in real life.
Last season around this time I think I remember another young rookie lighting it up, only a different position. I think I remember alot of people on these boards claiming he was the next big thing at RB, and wouldn't trade him because the sky was his potential. I do remember this particular player came back down to normal, and the hype slowly disappeared. I do still like this particular player, but its obvious he's not the next "super stud". Yes, thats right, alot of people around here were really high on Jahvid Best just a year ago. Trading Aaron Rodgers for Cam is insane. Yes, he looks good. Even Tom Brady and the elites don't throw for 400+ every game. He will come back down to normal. He may be a top 5 QB going forward, but to put him there after TWO games is a bit premature.
Not comparable. Best had a good week 2 receiving and was on a fluky td pace. He was still only averaging 3ypc. He had like 150 yards receiving week 2.Yes people were high on him, but his performance running the ball wasn't impressive at all.
Very comparable, both were being over rated based on 2 weeks. You don't think Cam is on a fluky yardage pace? Look, I like Newton and think he has great potential in the league. I'm just saying, 2 games and he's worth more than Rodgers and people would rather have him over the other proven top QB's? Game 1 Arizona run blitzed every down, although he did handle the blitzes well. Game 2 was a pretty good game, admittedly, but he did have 3 INT's. I'd rank Newton around QB8 right now. Give me Rodgers, Vick, Brees, Rivers, Brady, Romo, and Stafford over him right now. I may bump that after a few more games, but 2 games does not sway my opinion enough to rank him above the elites.And yes, I own Cam in a few different leagues...before anyone mentions "a bitter owner who missed out on Cam".
 
This is some pretty good stuff from Bill Baldinger on NFL.com... it says a lot about our young prospecthttp://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8226cf82/article/moon-feels-vindicated-for-defending-panthers-qb-newton?module=HP11_headline_stack
Love his quote, "this is Robert Redford in The Natural"I keep not wanting to sell the farm to get him in dynasty but I'm losing my patience. We might be seeing the beginning of not just the best qb ever but the best football player of all time.I know it's early but this is hollywood movie stuff, it isn't supposed to happen in real life.
Last season around this time I think I remember another young rookie lighting it up, only a different position. I think I remember alot of people on these boards claiming he was the next big thing at RB, and wouldn't trade him because the sky was his potential. I do remember this particular player came back down to normal, and the hype slowly disappeared. I do still like this particular player, but its obvious he's not the next "super stud". Yes, thats right, alot of people around here were really high on Jahvid Best just a year ago. Trading Aaron Rodgers for Cam is insane. Yes, he looks good. Even Tom Brady and the elites don't throw for 400+ every game. He will come back down to normal. He may be a top 5 QB going forward, but to put him there after TWO games is a bit premature.
Not comparable. Best had a good week 2 receiving and was on a fluky td pace. He was still only averaging 3ypc. He had like 150 yards receiving week 2.Yes people were high on him, but his performance running the ball wasn't impressive at all.
Very comparable, both were being over rated based on 2 weeks. You don't think Cam is on a fluky yardage pace? Look, I like Newton and think he has great potential in the league. I'm just saying, 2 games and he's worth more than Rodgers and people would rather have him over the other proven top QB's? Game 1 Arizona run blitzed every down, although he did handle the blitzes well. Game 2 was a pretty good game, admittedly, but he did have 3 INT's. I'd rank Newton around QB8 right now. Give me Rodgers, Vick, Brees, Rivers, Brady, Romo, and Stafford over him right now. I may bump that after a few more games, but 2 games does not sway my opinion enough to rank him above the elites.And yes, I own Cam in a few different leagues...before anyone mentions "a bitter owner who missed out on Cam".
You could be right, and unfortunately I don't own newton, but am trying to get him.I don't agree with the Best comparison though, as a runner he didn't look good at all, and he plays a position where running is pretty important. Newton has made some rookie mistakes but he's shown amazing passing abilities. every analyst is amazed by him as a passer.
 
I think Cam Newton is the next coming of Jeff George and several other QBs who had a big arm that put up great FFL numbers but had no idea how to win a game.

It'll be interesting to watch but I think the media is too driven by FFL results (and stats in general) which don't really mirror the reality of NFL games. Carolina is 0-2 and Cam Newton is regarded as an unbelievable QB when he hasn't won a game yet.

 
I think Cam Newton is the next coming of Jeff George and several other QBs who had a big arm that put up great FFL numbers but had no idea how to win a game.It'll be interesting to watch but I think the media is too driven by FFL results (and stats in general) which don't really mirror the reality of NFL games. Carolina is 0-2 and Cam Newton is regarded as an unbelievable QB when he hasn't won a game yet.
He's a rookie on a team with no defense. Manning was like 3-13 his rookie year. Cam is a winner, he won 20+ games in a row the past 2 years.a few people will keep their head buried in the sand no matter what he does. there was so much hate for this kid coming into the NFL there are bound to be people who won't change their tune.He was compared by the sheep to j.Russell when the only thing they had in common was their color.
 
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I think Cam Newton is the next coming of Jeff George and several other QBs who had a big arm that put up great FFL numbers but had no idea how to win a game.It'll be interesting to watch but I think the media is too driven by FFL results (and stats in general) which don't really mirror the reality of NFL games. Carolina is 0-2 and Cam Newton is regarded as an unbelievable QB when he hasn't won a game yet.
Cam Newton doesn't know how to win a game? How can you say that. He lifted an average Auburn team to a national championship. Carolina was a large underdog in his first NFL game and he almost carried the Panthers to victory on the road. Then the very next week he keeps Carolina competitive with the defending super bowl champions. Newton knows how to win and his infectious nature is going to teach the rest of the Panthers how to win.
 
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He's a rookie on a team with no defense. Manning was like 3-13 his rookie year. Cam is a winner, he won 20+ games in a row the past 2 years.
Wow - as his biographer, perhaps you should also include his last 4 years while he was a Gator :hophead:
a few people will keep their head buried in the sand no matter what he does. there was so much hate for this kid coming into the NFL there are bound to be people who won't change their tune.He was compared by the sheep to j.Russell when the only thing they had in common was their color.
Luckily, I compared him to a white QB (Jeff George) so I guess I'm exempt from that slur. We'll see how he works out for the Panthers. I don't even know who their coach is now but he's obviously losing at an alarming rate.I compared him right now to Jeff George (white) who threw the ball all day long and lost a lot of games because he didn't know how to win.I would also compare Cam Newton to Tim Tebow in terms of accomplishment and skill sets as both have good college careers, won the Heisman and a national championship (2 in the case of Tebow). Both have running ability that defenses have to respect and can throw for a long ways. Tebow, of course, is now playing for a coach who doesn't like agile QBs so he'll never get a chance in Denver to play.I'm not sure the success of Cam Newton is going to be based on his talent alone. The Panthers have not proven to be a very well-coached nor managed franchise and this may not change in the next decade. Newton could end up with a similar career to Steve McNair who I thought was a winner in a franchise of losers - he deserved a lot better.
 
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I just traded for Cam today, here was the trade for value purposes (non-ppr, redraft):I gave: Brandon Lloyd, Ryan Mathews, Greg Little He gave: Cam Newton, Devery Henderson, Brandon JacobsI have Romo as my QB1 who I'm going to try and deal for a WR. Wanted to use my depth at RB to get Cam - I know he probably won't keep up this pace but it's worth a shot, right?
Sorry but I think you gave up way too much.Gave away a high upside RB and very solid WR in return for a bench QB backup? Or if you decide to start him over Romo, you're now forced to bench Romo! Yikes.I'm considering trading Ben Tate for Newton in the same situation as you, but don't think I want to bench Newton or Romo from week to week. Cheers for giving it a go though, I'm sure he'll be fun to watch at least.
Yeah I think you missed the part where I mentioned that I'm looking to trade romo for a WR. I'm thin there but I've got Rice and Fred Jackson at RB, so I felt comfortable trading away "high upside". Sure it's risky. But in my opinion its a high risk/high reward situation, and points scored while on my bench (mathews) don't really help much.From watching both his games, I think Newton is a legit NFL QB and a fantasy stud. We'll see what happens from here on out but I like my chances.
 
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He's a rookie on a team with no defense. Manning was like 3-13 his rookie year. Cam is a winner, he won 20+ games in a row the past 2 years.
Wow - as his biographer, perhaps you should also include his last 4 years while he was a Gator :hophead:
a few people will keep their head buried in the sand no matter what he does. there was so much hate for this kid coming into the NFL there are bound to be people who won't change their tune.He was compared by the sheep to j.Russell when the only thing they had in common was their color.
Luckily, I compared him to a white QB (Jeff George) so I guess I'm exempt from that slur. We'll see how he works out for the Panthers. I don't even know who their coach is now but he's obviously losing at an alarming rate.I compared him right now to Jeff George (white) who threw the ball all day long and lost a lot of games because he didn't know how to win.I would also compare Cam Newton to Tim Tebow in terms of accomplishment and skill sets as both have good college careers, won the Heisman and a national championship (2 in the case of Tebow). Both have running ability that defenses have to respect and can throw for a long ways. Tebow, of course, is now playing for a coach who doesn't like agile QBs so he'll never get a chance in Denver to play.I'm not sure the success of Cam Newton is going to be based on his talent alone. The Panthers have not proven to be a very well-coached nor managed franchise and this may not change in the next decade. Newton could end up with a similar career to Steve McNair who I thought was a winner in a franchise of losers - he deserved a lot better.
This entire post, starting with not knowing who the Panther's HC is, right through the rest of it, really makes me think that you haven't even watched the two games Newton has played so far.Newton and Tebow do have some of the similarities that you mention. But Newton's largest asset so far has been his (kinda shocking) ability to sit back calmly in the pocket, shrug off the rush, and deliver strikes down-field. Newton's throwing mechanics are picture-perfect, although his footwork could use some work, of course. That's to be expected. He's also 6'6", which allows him, along with his high release point, to easily find throwing lanes. Tebow has none of that going for him. He's got an awkward release that he still has to think about, because its not natural and he doesn't have half the arm Newton does; he hasn't shown the velocity on his throws that Newton effortlessly has. Anyone who has watched both of them can tell you this after seeing half a dozen throws from each.You're comparing Tebow and Newton both as runners who can pass. I contend that if you have watched Newton's two games, you'll see that he's really an excellent passer who can also run. He has one of the best arms in the league already, and I don't just mean distance-wise. The velocity on his throws is really Favre-like. He can throw the ball on a frozen rope on the 30-yard deep out, no problem. That's the epitome of an "NFL throw". He'll improve his accuracy, but he's got an NFL arm, and he's got poise in the pocket. Never-mind the fact that he'll be tough to sack anyways.
 
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I think Cam Newton is the next coming of Jeff George and several other QBs who had a big arm that put up great FFL numbers but had no idea how to win a game.

It'll be interesting to watch but I think the media is too driven by FFL results (and stats in general) which don't really mirror the reality of NFL games. Carolina is 0-2 and Cam Newton is regarded as an unbelievable QB when he hasn't won a game yet.
He was compared by the sheep to j.Russell when the only thing they had in common was their color.

I'm disappointed I have to agree w/ this.J Best is a nice back who if he can stay healthy and hit a few HR's may have a nice career.

The only thing that will stop Newton from being PFG and borderline great is himself (unlikely), multiple season ending injuries, ridiculous ineptitude by the Panthers, or other even more bizarre circumstances. He's already above average in 2 games. Do you really think GB was trying to stop the run? We saw the Cards game - the panthers gave that one away and they should be 1-1.

I have Rivers in one league and Schaub in the other. I wish I had him because QB controversies are good - get the juices flowing.

 
CravenM - not great.

Compare to J George so far - sure. But not rally. George was a whiny tool from day one.

The rest of your post is pure garbage.

Orton is WAYYYY better than Tebow...it's not even an argument. Saying anything else than that is a clear sign of lack of football scouting.

The Panther staff is pretty new. Maybe they can play a few games before you say they suck. They are 0-2 - but gave away 1 game and put a pretty ####### good scare into the Super Bowl champs.

If he ends up like McNair- the Panthers did GREAT. McNair was easily good enough to be on a SB team but moving all over Tenn, new coach, etc - it was not to be. RIP btw.

 
CravenM - not great.Compare to J George so far - sure. But not rally. George was a whiny tool from day one.The rest of your post is pure garbage.Orton is WAYYYY better than Tebow...it's not even an argument. Saying anything else than that is a clear sign of lack of football scouting.The Panther staff is pretty new. Maybe they can play a few games before you say they suck. They are 0-2 - but gave away 1 game and put a pretty ####### good scare into the Super Bowl champs.If he ends up like McNair- the Panthers did GREAT. McNair was easily good enough to be on a SB team but moving all over Tenn, new coach, etc - it was not to be. RIP btw.
Steve McNair WAS on a SB team...
 
He's a rookie on a team with no defense. Manning was like 3-13 his rookie year. Cam is a winner, he won 20+ games in a row the past 2 years.
Wow - as his biographer, perhaps you should also include his last 4 years while he was a Gator :hophead:
a few people will keep their head buried in the sand no matter what he does. there was so much hate for this kid coming into the NFL there are bound to be people who won't change their tune.

He was compared by the sheep to j.Russell when the only thing they had in common was their color.
Luckily, I compared him to a white QB (Jeff George) so I guess I'm exempt from that slur. We'll see how he works out for the Panthers. I don't even know who their coach is now but he's obviously losing at an alarming rate.I compared him right now to Jeff George (white) who threw the ball all day long and lost a lot of games because he didn't know how to win.

I would also compare Cam Newton to Tim Tebow in terms of accomplishment and skill sets as both have good college careers, won the Heisman and a national championship (2 in the case of Tebow). Both have running ability that defenses have to respect and can throw for a long ways. Tebow, of course, is now playing for a coach who doesn't like agile QBs so he'll never get a chance in Denver to play.

I'm not sure the success of Cam Newton is going to be based on his talent alone. The Panthers have not proven to be a very well-coached nor managed franchise and this may not change in the next decade. Newton could end up with a similar career to Steve McNair who I thought was a winner in a franchise of losers - he deserved a lot better.
This entire post, starting with not knowing who the Panther's HC is, right through the rest of it, really makes me think that you haven't even watched the two games Newton has played so far.Newton and Tebow do have some of the similarities that you mention. But Newton's largest asset so far has been his (kinda shocking) ability to sit back calmly in the pocket, shrug off the rush, and deliver strikes down-field. Newton's throwing mechanics are picture-perfect, although his footwork could use some work, of course. That's to be expected. He's also 6'6", which allows him, along with his high release point, to easily find throwing lanes. Tebow has none of that going for him. He's got an awkward release that he still has to think about, because its not natural and he doesn't have half the arm Newton does; he hasn't shown the velocity on his throws that Newton effortlessly has. Anyone who has watched both of them can tell you this after seeing half a dozen throws from each.

You're comparing Tebow and Newton both as runners who can pass. I contend that if you have watched Newton's two games, you'll see that he's really an excellent passer who can also run. He has one of the best arms in the league already, and I don't just mean distance-wise. The velocity on his throws is really Favre-like. He can throw the ball on a frozen rope on the 30-yard deep out, no problem. That's the epitome of an "NFL throw". He'll improve his accuracy, but he's got an NFL arm, and he's got poise in the pocket. Never-mind the fact that he'll be tough to sack anyways.
Yea Craven... I am not sure you know what you are talking about at all.... Cam Newton is a winner, and he has already made the Panthers play better as a team in just two games... by the end of this year I bet you the Panthers get on a winning streak.. and become a playoff team by next year....the guy has a presence on the field that makes everyone better around him

In just two games, Cam Newton has single-handedly taken the game over... vs Arizona he led the Panthers to the 1 yd line on a late 4th quarter drive... they were that close to being tied and going into overtime

vs Green Bay he looked phenomenal i was at the game... so he threw a few picks big deal that is expected from a rookie vs one of the best defenses in the league...other than that he played amazing against the Super Bowl Champs and by himself kept the Panthers in the game...to me the most impressive thing that he did was keeping his poise making big plays for the Panthers and keeping them in the game when the defense wasn't giving him any help at all after making a few mistakes...

and lol.. i just heard them say on ESPN that the Jaguars have confidence in Blaine Gabbert as they have seen how well Cam Newton a rookie QB has done thus far, and think he can handle the pressure, and will start against the Panthers

reminds me of the "Waterboy" when other colleges around the league were starting their waterboys because of what Adam Sandler was doing at linebacker... and than ESPN panned to that scene where a Waterboy from another team went out for a pass and got absolutely decimated going over the middle to catch a pass lol

 
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The love of Newton on this board is the first thing that has ever shocked me. And I read the FFA.
I'm a Titans homer and I never liked Vince Young, but I kept my bias in check enough to realize he could put up a good FF game. And Cam is a much better passer than Vince could ever be.
 
He's a rookie on a team with no defense. Manning was like 3-13 his rookie year. Cam is a winner, he won 20+ games in a row the past 2 years.
Wow - as his biographer, perhaps you should also include his last 4 years while he was a Gator :hophead:
a few people will keep their head buried in the sand no matter what he does. there was so much hate for this kid coming into the NFL there are bound to be people who won't change their tune.He was compared by the sheep to j.Russell when the only thing they had in common was their color.
Luckily, I compared him to a white QB (Jeff George) so I guess I'm exempt from that slur. We'll see how he works out for the Panthers. I don't even know who their coach is now but he's obviously losing at an alarming rate.I compared him right now to Jeff George (white) who threw the ball all day long and lost a lot of games because he didn't know how to win.I would also compare Cam Newton to Tim Tebow in terms of accomplishment and skill sets as both have good college careers, won the Heisman and a national championship (2 in the case of Tebow). Both have running ability that defenses have to respect and can throw for a long ways. Tebow, of course, is now playing for a coach who doesn't like agile QBs so he'll never get a chance in Denver to play.I'm not sure the success of Cam Newton is going to be based on his talent alone. The Panthers have not proven to be a very well-coached nor managed franchise and this may not change in the next decade. Newton could end up with a similar career to Steve McNair who I thought was a winner in a franchise of losers - he deserved a lot better.
This entire post, starting with not knowing who the Panther's HC is, right through the rest of it, really makes me think that you haven't even watched the two games Newton has played so far.Newton and Tebow do have some of the similarities that you mention. But Newton's largest asset so far has been his (kinda shocking) ability to sit back calmly in the pocket, shrug off the rush, and deliver strikes down-field. Newton's throwing mechanics are picture-perfect, although his footwork could use some work, of course. That's to be expected. He's also 6'6", which allows him, along with his high release point, to easily find throwing lanes. Tebow has none of that going for him. He's got an awkward release that he still has to think about, because its not natural and he doesn't have half the arm Newton does; he hasn't shown the velocity on his throws that Newton effortlessly has. Anyone who has watched both of them can tell you this after seeing half a dozen throws from each.You're comparing Tebow and Newton both as runners who can pass. I contend that if you have watched Newton's two games, you'll see that he's really an excellent passer who can also run. He has one of the best arms in the league already, and I don't just mean distance-wise. The velocity on his throws is really Favre-like. He can throw the ball on a frozen rope on the 30-yard deep out, no problem. That's the epitome of an "NFL throw". He'll improve his accuracy, but he's got an NFL arm, and he's got poise in the pocket. Never-mind the fact that he'll be tough to sack anyways.
Yea Craven... I am not sure you know what you are talking about at all.... Cam Newton is a winner, and he has already made the Panthers play better as a team in just two games... by the end of this year I bet you the Panthers get on a winning streak.. and become a playoff team by next year....the guy has a presence on the field that makes everyone better around him
Craven = anti-hype = clueless...
 
Early, early, early.

How can anyone have anything bad to say about this guy with this start, after the preseason and all the criticism about his college "career."

Look, he's already done something no Carolina QB has ever done, make his no. 2 WR, LaFell, relevant.

The main thing is the interceptions; if they keep coming it's a problem, if they go down watch out NFL. But a rookie QB throwing picks is not unheard of (Andy Dalton and a handful of other exceptions aside). Still they have to go down if he is to emerge as a premier (and winning) QB.

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Just a side note to DeAngelo Williams: DeAngelo, you may have gotten paid but your next contract may not be so exciting if Newton keeps hogging the carries like he has, and he will. Same goes for Stewart. Two great RB's but the future FF prospects for Carolina RB's are probably near buried.

 
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We might be seeing the beginning of not just the best qb ever but the best football player of all time.
:lmao:
It's possible. Unlikely, but you never know.
It's also possible that Chad Henne will become the best football player of all time. It's also possible to win the lottery 10 times in a row.
I think we can all agree that while unlikely, its probably more likely at this point, after a great and historical start to his career, that Newton becomes the greatest football player of all time, than Henne doing the same. Its still a crazy thing to say, of course.####, there's an entire HOF thread for Ingram on the front page. At least Cam's done something so far. Not that I agree, but it IS a bold thing to say.

 
I am buying the hype and very well could be wrong. But, watching the Panthers/Packers game was the most fun I have had, not watching my own team, in years - playoffs excluded.

List of QBs I would accept in trade for Cam Newton (Dynasty):

Aaron Rodgers

 
Good Point CC! I may consider a couple other QBs if they include a future pick, I think his floor is so high with him right now (since he is taking the GL touches from DWill and Stewart) that he is almost untouchable.

Side bar: I'm not sure their new OC is getting enough credit for letting him throw the ball all around the field. They are not trying to "protect" him by shrinking the field. It is a joy to watch!

 
anybody have an idea of what his value is in Dynasty? anybody trade him or for him?
I have offered out Jonathan Stewart in one league, rejected and guy countered asking for Ray Rice.Sent a feeler out in another league, said I may send Julio Jones for Cam. Guy said Cam is the better player as of now so I'd have to give a bit more on my end. Good luck getting Cam, he is pretty much unattainable right now. Wait a few weeks and the hype will settle down a bit.
 
He is almost untradeable right now.

Last week, I did a larger deal that composed of the counter-party choosing either Brandon Marshall or Cam Newton at half of Marshall's salary; and he needed a QB since his starter's dynasty contract is up this year. He chose the far more expensive Marshall. Oops.

 
Good luck getting Cam, he is pretty much unattainable right now. Wait a few weeks and the hype will settle down a bit.
I thought this week was the week to buy, after he played one of the best defenses in the NFL. I was wrong. I think his ability to run really keeps his floor high. You will be waiting a while for his value to drop much. His bad fantasy games will have to out number his good ones. That is at least 3 weeks of poor play away.
 
I am buying the hype and very well could be wrong. But, watching the Panthers/Packers game was the most fun I have had, not watching my own team, in years - playoffs excluded.List of QBs I would accept in trade for Cam Newton (Dynasty):Aaron Rodgers
I actually agree with this.I knew his physical tools were off the charts, but for him to put up these numbers right off the bat is mind-blowing.You expect the growing pains and inevitable 18-20 picks, but he is basically a one-man offense who can provide RB3 stats as a bonus.Rivers would also be tempting, but Newton's upside at 22-years-old is crazy.
 
Was offered him plus Manningham or Burleson for VJax in a 12 team redraft. Mentally dismissed it immediately but seriously thinking about it now.

 
anybody have an idea of what his value is in Dynasty? anybody trade him or for him?
I have offered out Jonathan Stewart in one league, rejected and guy countered asking for Ray Rice.Sent a feeler out in another league, said I may send Julio Jones for Cam. Guy said Cam is the better player as of now so I'd have to give a bit more on my end.

Good luck getting Cam, he is pretty much unattainable right now. Wait a few weeks and the hype will settle down a bit.
Or wait till he blows up again this weekend against Jacksonville, and you won't be able to touch him with Tom Brady in a dynasty league.
 
Got J. Best for him.only traded him because I have Brady.
In a redraft (esp. PPR) I could totally understand this move.You improved your starting lineup at the expense of a solid depth player.However, in a keeper/dynasty I would have a difficult time trading Cam for almost anyone outside of a top 5 or 6 player.He's a bigger, stronger, not-as-fast but-9-years-younger Mike Vick.Yes, of course he could come crashing down to earth and become mediocre. I just don't have the guts to trade away a player who could be my team's anchor and a transcendent talent for a decade.I'm rolling the dice with Newton.
 
Got J. Best for him.only traded him because I have Brady.
In a redraft (esp. PPR) I could totally understand this move.You improved your starting lineup at the expense of a solid depth player.However, in a keeper/dynasty I would have a difficult time trading Cam for almost anyone outside of a top 5 or 6 player.He's a bigger, stronger, not-as-fast but-9-years-younger Mike Vick.Yes, of course he could come crashing down to earth and become mediocre. I just don't have the guts to trade away a player who could be my team's anchor and a transcendent talent for a decade.I'm rolling the dice with Newton.
this is a PPR keep 1i just could not keep him and hope he was good for years when i have brady and think i can make a run now
 
Got J. Best for him.only traded him because I have Brady.
In a redraft (esp. PPR) I could totally understand this move.You improved your starting lineup at the expense of a solid depth player.However, in a keeper/dynasty I would have a difficult time trading Cam for almost anyone outside of a top 5 or 6 player.He's a bigger, stronger, not-as-fast but-9-years-younger Mike Vick.Yes, of course he could come crashing down to earth and become mediocre. I just don't have the guts to trade away a player who could be my team's anchor and a transcendent talent for a decade.I'm rolling the dice with Newton.
this is a PPR keep 1i just could not keep him and hope he was good for years when i have brady and think i can make a run now
i did trade him out of conference though :)
 
Got J. Best for him.only traded him because I have Brady.
In a redraft (esp. PPR) I could totally understand this move.You improved your starting lineup at the expense of a solid depth player.However, in a keeper/dynasty I would have a difficult time trading Cam for almost anyone outside of a top 5 or 6 player.He's a bigger, stronger, not-as-fast but-9-years-younger Mike Vick.Yes, of course he could come crashing down to earth and become mediocre. I just don't have the guts to trade away a player who could be my team's anchor and a transcendent talent for a decade.I'm rolling the dice with Newton.
this is a PPR keep 1i just could not keep him and hope he was good for years when i have brady and think i can make a run now
Definitely.If you have Brady and you need Best to put you over the top, you pull the trigger.The point is to win NOW if you can.
 
Got J. Best for him.only traded him because I have Brady.
In a redraft (esp. PPR) I could totally understand this move.You improved your starting lineup at the expense of a solid depth player.However, in a keeper/dynasty I would have a difficult time trading Cam for almost anyone outside of a top 5 or 6 player.He's a bigger, stronger, not-as-fast but-9-years-younger Mike Vick.Yes, of course he could come crashing down to earth and become mediocre. I just don't have the guts to trade away a player who could be my team's anchor and a transcendent talent for a decade.I'm rolling the dice with Newton.
Yeah, I have him in a dynasty league, and I'm not sure where I'd draw the line at selling him. I came into the season with Bradford, Henne, Garrard and drafted Newton and was thinking I'd be in trouble at the QB position. Now I'm looking much better, but still wondering what I could get for him. Knowing my league, nobody is going to come knocking on the door for him, and I don't have any idea what I'd be willing to accept at this point. His situation has a pretty similar feel to Daunte Culpepper ~ 2000, and young Daunte took that start and rolled it into several dominating fantasy seasons before he fell apart. No idea if Newton will have a similar trajectory, if he'll be able to outlast Daunte, or if he'll come back to earth sooner than that, but having a pretty solid look at that type of fantasy production over even just 3 years is pretty hard to trade in a dynasty league.
 
When did this become a thread about Jahvid Best? It'd be great if we could talk about the guy named in the thread title rather than one trade that happened in one fantasy league. Talk about a hijack..

 
Nobody picked up Newton in our 12 man league after week one. I guess they thought it was a fluke. As the number 2 waiver priority I'm picking him up even though I've got Rodgers as my QB.I like this move for several reasons.A) I can watch to see if Cam is going to keep putting up numbers like this and trade Rodgers further into the season for value.B) Get something for Cam (by trading right now) at the RB position where I could use a little help.C) Have a nice Bye Week starter for Rodgers and have a security blanket in case the Pack keeps winning and sits Rodgers toward the end of the yearD) Keep a playmaker out of the hands of my opponents for the time being.
Who has the #1 waiver - can't see him not getting pick 1st this week
The guy in 1st has #1 Waiver and has Brady and Bradford. I guess kind of a simliar situation to me, but if anyone is one spot above me on waivers, I'd rather it be a Brady owner. He's new in our league so not sure what kind of move he'll make. I probably jinxed myself, but I'm still hoping I get him.
good luck - with Brady & Bradford he may not be doing anything in regards to QB..
Got me some Cam to back up Rodgers for the time being. Almost hoping he blows up another week. I'm in dire need of a stud running back and if someone wanted to trade for Cam I'd be all for it as I didn't spend a draft pick on him. I've got more faith in Rodgers to continually put up solid numbers week after week with the corps of receivers he has. He may not have a enormous blow up games like Newton, but he will put up great numbers week in and week out. Cam could fall out of fantasy relevance as fast as he came into it (not saying he's going to), but that the chances of Rodgers falling off his horse is much lower.
 
im in a 10 team ppr start 2 qb, 2 rb, 4 wr, 1 te

my qbs-rivers, big ben, cam

wrs-dez,holmes,percy,burleson,roy williams, aurelious benn

i just acceppted the trade of hakeem nicks and mcnabb for cam newton!

i needed another wr think i did ok

 
If anyone is curious on the other side...was offered Newton by the Brees/Charles owner for Ryan Mathews (I have Schaub). Not really a big Cam believer, countered with Schaub and Hightower for Brees. He rejected.
The guy ended up trading Newton and Doucet for Michael Bush and Colt McCoy. He has McFadden. Like I said, not a Cam believer, but he got smoked in that deal.
 
I offered Cam and Marshall for Mendenhall and Evans in a redraft...other owner rejected but countered with Fitzpatrick + Marshall for Mendenhall + Evans. I jumped all over that...so, there are still plenty of people out there that don't buy into Cam yet. Will wait another week for the stock to reach its highest peak.

 
When did this become a thread about Jahvid Best? It'd be great if we could talk about the guy named in the thread title rather than one trade that happened in one fantasy league. Talk about a hijack..
Are you a moderator? Because I've seen all of three posts from you and all three were you telling people what to do, which is infinitely more annoying than somebody posting in the wrong folder or going on a tangent.I have a trade offer out, Foster for Cam. I think that's about where his value is right now for somebody needing a QB. Foster, obviously not at even his preseason value, let alone his last season value, still does hold value for somebody off to a strong start and looking for somebody who will produce big come playoff time. If you need a QB now and are 0-2, seems like he could be a high risk/high reward potential difference-maker for you.
 
I just put in a big offer for him. I'll let you know what I offered after he accepts or rejects...
I offered the Cam owner Eli Manning (or Colt McCoy, his choice) Lance Kendrick's, a first rounder in 2013, and 2014 for Cam and Malcolm Floyd (The player latter was for money purposes as this is a contract/salary cap league). The Cam owner is up against the cap and can't even pick up free agents, this move would allow him to grab one now, or a couple later in the year when their salaries are prorated down. This league does not penalize for picks so Eli finished higher than Matt Schaub last year at 7th at QB.BTW, this league is in St. Louis and the guy has a hard on for Kendrick's despite the slow start. He declined. I upped offered an extra second rounder on top of that but never heard back. I just can't give up a third 1st rounder. Although, if he chucks up another 400 this week, I just might make that offer.
 
Ahhhh, so many personal attacks, so little time.

:rolleyes:

CravenM - not great.

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The rest of your post is pure garbage.
Thanks - I thought yours was awesome :sleep:
Orton is WAYYYY better than Tebow...it's not even an argument. Saying anything else than that is a clear sign of lack of football scouting.
:bs: And yet, their statistics from live games last year were very similar, except in the rushing department where Tebow was clearly better.

The Panther staff is pretty new. Maybe they can play a few games before you say they suck. They are 0-2 - but gave away 1 game and put a pretty ####### good scare into the Super Bowl champs.
To clarify, I wrote The Panthers have not proven to be a very well-coached nor managed franchise and this may not change in the next decade. This was not a reflection of being 0-2 but more of the past 2 decades. Coaching, personnel decisions, contract decisions, etc. - I think the Panthers are one of the poorest run teams in the NFL.
Yea Craven... I am not sure you know what you are talking about at all

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In just two games, Cam Newton has single-handedly taken the game over... vs Arizona he led the Panthers to the 1 yd line on a late 4th quarter drive.
And they lost. :topcat:
vs Green Bay he looked phenomenal i was at the game...
And they lost. :topcat: What I was talking about was losing games, not looking good and putting up splashy FFL numbers.

Craven = anti-hype = clueless...
Thanks :toilet:
 

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