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Can the Titans beat the Colts this weekend? (1 Viewer)

For those who want to dog the Colts this week, only twice since the NFL merger has a 4-0 team won against an 0-4 team. ;)

 
OK, yes I am drinking....and yes, I live in Indiana (one of the "fly-over" states) But I am slow on the uptake here....

"Only once since the merger has an 0-4 team defeated a 4-0 team at home" as your first post

"only twice since the NFL merger has a 4-0 team won against an 0-4 team" as your second post

Does that mean that a 4-0 team has only met a 0-4 team 3 times? Or were there a SH$Tload of tie games?

Or are you simply trying to baffle and confuse all of us with random nonsensical trivia?

 
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dnurk said:
OK, yes I am drinking....and yes, I live in Indianapolis (one of the "fly-over" states) But I am slow on the uptake here...."Only once since the merger has an 0-4 team defeated a 4-0 team at home" as your first post"only twice since the NFL merger has a 4-0 team won against an 0-4 team" as your second postDoes that mean that a 4-0 team has only met a 0-4 team 3 times? Or were there a SH$Tload of tie games?Or are you simply trying to baffle and confuse all of us with random nonsensical trivia?
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Yes, only three matchups ever where teams with these records squared off.
 
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You, sir, are one with your statistics.

That is actually kind of hard to believe that it has happened that infrequently

 
I think I remember 4-0 Oakland losing at 4-0 Buffalo some years ago in the 90s... but it might have been 0-3 and 3-0. Not sure.

 
The Colts are 18.5 point favorites. We all know the Colts lost as 18 point favorites in a pretty famous game, but no team has lost a regular season game with this point spread in a very long time. Based on my incomplete data, the biggest upset in the last 20 years or so was a 17.5 point favorite, losing at home to a division rival. (Trivia award of the week goes to whoever knows this answer or the original one.)

 
Chase Stuart said:
The Colts are 18.5 point favorites. We all know the Colts lost as 18 point favorites in a pretty famous game, but no team has lost a regular season game with this point spread in a very long time. Based on my incomplete data, the biggest upset in the last 20 years or so was a 17.5 point favorite, losing at home to a division rival. (Trivia award of the week goes to whoever knows this answer or the original one.)
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San Fran beating St. Louis
 
Psychology Kev said:
Chase Stuart said:
The Colts are 18.5 point favorites. We all know the Colts lost as 18 point favorites in a pretty famous game, but no team has lost a regular season game with this point spread in a very long time. Based on my incomplete data, the biggest upset in the last 20 years or so was a 17.5 point favorite, losing at home to a division rival. (Trivia award of the week goes to whoever knows this answer or the original one.)
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San Fran beating St. Louis
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No.
 
Chase Stuart said:
The Colts are 18.5 point favorites. We all know the Colts lost as 18 point favorites in a pretty famous game, but no team has lost a regular season game with this point spread in a very long time. Based on my incomplete data, the biggest upset in the last 20 years or so was a 17.5 point favorite, losing at home to a division rival. (Trivia award of the week goes to whoever knows this answer or the original one.)
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In 2001 the colts were 2-0 and double digit favorites on the road over an 0-2 team that had just lost their starting QB and had to put some late round draft pick from Michigan in there.
 
Chase Stuart said:
Couch Potato said:
In 2002, 4-0 Oakland lost at 0-5 St Louis 28-13... but that's not the one you're looking for, is it.
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Nope but very nice find.
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That was a weird year for the Raiders. Gruden had gone to Tampa, they won 4 to start, lost 4, then ran off another string of wins. Lost to Gruden in Super Bowl.BTW, I think you are right about the 1-4 Raiders and 4-1 Bills the more I think on it. Good job. I may have been getting that matchup somehow mixed up with the Raiders-Rams mentioned above.
 
Chase Stuart said:
The Colts are 18.5 point favorites. We all know the Colts lost as 18 point favorites in a pretty famous game, but no team has lost a regular season game with this point spread in a very long time. Based on my incomplete data, the biggest upset in the last 20 years or so was a 17.5 point favorite, losing at home to a division rival. (Trivia award of the week goes to whoever knows this answer or the original one.)
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Carolina, in their inaugural season, stunned the Niners in San Francisco.I remember it because I lost :moneybag: on it.... :(
 
RAIDERNATION said:
Chase Stuart said:
The Colts are 18.5 point favorites. We all know the Colts lost as 18 point favorites in a pretty famous game, but no team has lost a regular season game with this point spread in a very long time. Based on my incomplete data, the biggest upset in the last 20 years or so was a 17.5 point favorite, losing at home to a division rival. (Trivia award of the week goes to whoever knows this answer or the original one.)
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Carolina, in their inaugural season, stunned the Niners in San Francisco.I remember it because I lost :moneybag: on it.... :(
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I've got them down as 15 point dogs.Anyway, the answer is the 95 Redskins vs. the Cowboys. Norv Turner's Skins were 3-9, and the Cowboys were 10-2 and would win the Super Bowl that year. Dallas lost in Washington, and then lost by 7 at home to the Skins as 17.5 point favorites.
 
Chase Stuart said:
The Colts are 18.5 point favorites. We all know the Colts lost as 18 point favorites in a pretty famous game
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It was 19 by kickoff in most places, and a lot of people to this day feel that the game was fixed.Johnny U. was not permitted to play until late in the game when it was too late. The Jets' victory would serve to legitimize the junior league, which was great for the game in the long run. The only unfortunate byproduct of the victory was Broadway Joe getting a horribly-undeserved yellow blazer.
 
RAIDERNATION said:
Chase Stuart said:
The Colts are 18.5 point favorites. We all know the Colts lost as 18 point favorites in a pretty famous game
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It was 19 by kickoff in most places, and a lot of people to this day feel that the game was fixed.Johnny U. was not permitted to play until late in the game when it was too late. The Jets' victory would serve to legitimize the junior league, which was great for the game in the long run. The only unfortunate byproduct of the victory was Broadway Joe getting a horribly-undeserved yellow blazer.
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Please fish elsewhere TIA.
 
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Yes, Tenn can win this game. If they establish the run and stick with it all game long. Even still, that does not give them a great chance.

 
Chase Stuart said:
RAIDERNATION said:
Chase Stuart said:
The Colts are 18.5 point favorites. We all know the Colts lost as 18 point favorites in a pretty famous game, but no team has lost a regular season game with this point spread in a very long time. Based on my incomplete data, the biggest upset in the last 20 years or so was a 17.5 point favorite, losing at home to a division rival. (Trivia award of the week goes to whoever knows this answer or the original one.)
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Carolina, in their inaugural season, stunned the Niners in San Francisco.I remember it because I lost :moneybag: on it.... :(
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I've got them down as 15 point dogs.
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I believe your data is incorrect. You know how they say that gamblers remember the tough beats more than the sweet wins? That's me. In '95, the 49ers were the defending Super Bowl champs. That was Carolina's first year in the league, and they were in San Fran's division. I remember telling everyone that I would lay however many points it took when the Panthers visited the Niners for the first time.Not only was San Fran at least 17.5 point favorites..... I believe they were 23 point favorites. I remember my jaw dropping when I saw the line, but I still played it anyway. Let me check a few sources on this.

 
RAIDERNATION said:
Chase Stuart said:
RAIDERNATION said:
Chase Stuart said:
The Colts are 18.5 point favorites. We all know the Colts lost as 18 point favorites in a pretty famous game, but no team has lost a regular season game with this point spread in a very long time. Based on my incomplete data, the biggest upset in the last 20 years or so was a 17.5 point favorite, losing at home to a division rival. (Trivia award of the week goes to whoever knows this answer or the original one.)
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Carolina, in their inaugural season, stunned the Niners in San Francisco.I remember it because I lost :moneybag: on it.... :(
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I've got them down as 15 point dogs.
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I believe your data is incorrect. You know how they say that gamblers remember the tough beats more than the sweet wins? That's me. In '95, the 49ers were the defending Super Bowl champs. That was Carolina's first year in the league, and they were in San Fran's division. I remember telling everyone that I would lay however many points it took when the Panthers visited the Niners for the first time.Not only was San Fran at least 17.5 point favorites..... I believe they were 23 point favorites. I remember my jaw dropping when I saw the line, but I still played it anyway. Let me check a few sources on this.
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Go for it. But that Panthers team had won three straight games and the 49ers were coming off a loss. But yes, it's definitely possible that my incomplete data is not accurate here.
 
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Chase Stuart said:
RAIDERNATION said:
Chase Stuart said:
RAIDERNATION said:
Chase Stuart said:
The Colts are 18.5 point favorites. We all know the Colts lost as 18 point favorites in a pretty famous game, but no team has lost a regular season game with this point spread in a very long time. Based on my incomplete data, the biggest upset in the last 20 years or so was a 17.5 point favorite, losing at home to a division rival. (Trivia award of the week goes to whoever knows this answer or the original one.)
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Carolina, in their inaugural season, stunned the Niners in San Francisco.I remember it because I lost :moneybag: on it.... :(
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I've got them down as 15 point dogs.
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I believe your data is incorrect. You know how they say that gamblers remember the tough beats more than the sweet wins? That's me. In '95, the 49ers were the defending Super Bowl champs. That was Carolina's first year in the league, and they were in San Fran's division. I remember telling everyone that I would lay however many points it took when the Panthers visited the Niners for the first time.Not only was San Fran at least 17.5 point favorites..... I believe they were 23 point favorites. I remember my jaw dropping when I saw the line, but I still played it anyway. Let me check a few sources on this.
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Go for it. But that Panthers team had won three straight games and the 49ers were coming off a loss.
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Against the Jets, Saints and Pats.... at the time they lost to Carolina, New England was 2-5, New York was 1-5, and New Orleans was 1-5.
 
RAIDERNATION said:
Chase Stuart said:
RAIDERNATION said:
Chase Stuart said:
RAIDERNATION said:
Chase Stuart said:
The Colts are 18.5 point favorites. We all know the Colts lost as 18 point favorites in a pretty famous game, but no team has lost a regular season game with this point spread in a very long time. Based on my incomplete data, the biggest upset in the last 20 years or so was a 17.5 point favorite, losing at home to a division rival. (Trivia award of the week goes to whoever knows this answer or the original one.)
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Carolina, in their inaugural season, stunned the Niners in San Francisco.I remember it because I lost :moneybag: on it.... :(
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I've got them down as 15 point dogs.
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I believe your data is incorrect. You know how they say that gamblers remember the tough beats more than the sweet wins? That's me. In '95, the 49ers were the defending Super Bowl champs. That was Carolina's first year in the league, and they were in San Fran's division. I remember telling everyone that I would lay however many points it took when the Panthers visited the Niners for the first time.Not only was San Fran at least 17.5 point favorites..... I believe they were 23 point favorites. I remember my jaw dropping when I saw the line, but I still played it anyway. Let me check a few sources on this.
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Go for it. But that Panthers team had won three straight games and the 49ers were coming off a loss.
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Against the Jets, Saints and Pats.... at the time they lost to Carolina, New England was 2-5, New York was 1-5, and New Orleans was 1-5.
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Saints lost the Panthers by 17, then beat the 49ers the next week.
 
Check this out.

The Oregon State football team also holds the record for beating the biggest point spread in the history of the NCAA. On October 19, 1985, the Beavers were set to play against the Pac-10 leading Washington Huskies in Seattle. The point spread had been set at 38 in favor of Washington, and Oregon State was forced to play with a backup quarterback as starter Erik Wilhelm was sidelined with an injury. Oregon State managed what is considered the biggest upset in the history of the program, and perhaps the NCAA, when they beat Washington 21-20 with a last minute touchdown.
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RAIDERNATION said:
Check this out.

The Oregon State football team also holds the record for beating the biggest point spread in the history of the NCAA. On October 19, 1985, the Beavers were set to play against the Pac-10 leading Washington Huskies in Seattle. The point spread had been set at 38 in favor of Washington, and Oregon State was forced to play with a backup quarterback as starter Erik Wilhelm was sidelined with an injury. Oregon State managed what is considered the biggest upset in the history of the program, and perhaps the NCAA, when they beat Washington 21-20 with a last minute touchdown.
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Nice. On my birthday no less.
 
San Francisco was a 24-point favorite once, you are remembering that right... 12/5/93 vs the Bengals. They won but failed to cover, 21-8.

 
videoguy505 said:
San Francisco was a 24-point favorite once, you are remembering that right... 12/5/93 vs the Bengals. They won but failed to cover, 21-8.
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Ah yes, the David Klingler era (error?)...I don't remember that spread one bit. I am definitely thinking of the '95 S.F./Carolina matchup, though I suppose I could be confused as to the closing number. Ah hell, who knows. I'm going to bed.

 
Chase Stuart said:
The Colts are 18.5 point favorites. We all know the Colts lost as 18 point favorites in a pretty famous game, but no team has lost a regular season game with this point spread in a very long time. Based on my incomplete data, the biggest upset in the last 20 years or so was a 17.5 point favorite, losing at home to a division rival. (Trivia award of the week goes to whoever knows this answer or the original one.)
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I saw it at 19. This has to be one of the biggest, if not the biggest, lines the NFL has had in some time, no?? This is like a college line.
 
Only if the Colts try to prove that they can run the ball.

The Colts almost blew the Jet game by trying to run it in three straight times without success. Manning throws it and they have a easy TD.

 
Da Guru said:
Only if the Colts try to prove that they can run the ball.The Colts almost blew the Jet game by trying to run it in three straight times without success. Manning throws it and they have a easy TD.
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:goodposting: Tremendous posting! I hope the force-feeding of the run game doesn't cost them a game this season.
 
I've been looking at this matchup from a gambling perspective for the past few days. Usually, the line on a team for the first half is half of what it is for the game. Example: Indy is favored by 18. They should be favored by 9 in the 1st half. I would have BURIED it at those odds. I'd have even gone to 10. But alas, bookies aren't dumb. The Colts are favored by 13 in the 1st half. I can't play that number just on principle. I'd rather lay 18 and get two more quarters to get 5 more points.

When laying 18, you are afraid of a late backdoor TD allowing Tennessee to cover. But in the 1st half, Indy should come out firing to build a lead. That's why I would have loved the -9 or -10 in the 1st half more than the -18 for the whole game. But I found a bet which might be even better. Indy's "team total" for the game is 33, but for the 1st half it's 17. I cannot envision a scenario in which the Colts don't have at least 17 on the board at halftime. Thinking of pounding that one as hard as they allow me to.

 
pizzatyme said:
Da Guru said:
Only if the Colts try to prove that they can run the ball.The Colts almost blew the Jet game by trying to run it in three straight times without success. Manning throws it and they have a easy TD.
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:goodposting: Tremendous posting! I hope the force-feeding of the run game doesn't cost them a game this season.
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Ironically, forcing the passing game seems to have been their downfall in the first half. Stick to the run as long as it's working, Indy.
 
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