Baloney Sandwich
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Anyone have up-to-date information on DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart's availability for tonight? Are both a GTD?
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Carolina RB situation tonight (1 Viewer)
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thecardiackid
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Stewart has been ?able for the entire season w/ the achilles. Normal week is off on Tues., then full practice Wed./Th. iirc.
This week's Thursday / early game complicates that a bit, but I'd be shocked if he wasn't fine.
DW - I don't really know.
This week's Thursday / early game complicates that a bit, but I'd be shocked if he wasn't fine.
DW - I don't really know.
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simey
Footballguy
DeAngelo practiced Tuesday and Fox gave him off Wednesday to rest. He is fine. Stewart had Tuesday off (he always misses a day of practice cause of his achilles issue) and practiced yesterday. He is fine.
sdsjr3
Footballguy
I am rolling with both in one league and am quite happy about it. Starting Stewart over the likes of the NE RB duo, Scott, Norwood.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Double Trouble is the best they can think up for these guys? Pretty creativejust found this
FavreCo
Footballguy
Should be called the Superstar and the Drive Killer. Stewart can't get 1 yard if a defender gets a hand on him. His goal line failures this year far exceed his ability to punch it in.scrumptrulescent said:Double Trouble is the best they can think up for these guys? Pretty creativejoffer said:just found this
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
I admittedly don't get to see much Carolina football since I'm in the Midwest so I was unaware of this. Most sites are lauding Stewart as the goal line guy now. Are those just assumptions due to his size?Should be called the Superstar and the Drive Killer. Stewart can't get 1 yard if a defender gets a hand on him. His goal line failures this year far exceed his ability to punch it in.scrumptrulescent said:Double Trouble is the best they can think up for these guys? Pretty creativejoffer said:just found this
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Don't Noonan
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No it is obviously a D. Williams owner. Stewart does very well in short yardage situations.I admittedly don't get to see much Carolina football since I'm in the Midwest so I was unaware of this. Most sites are lauding Stewart as the goal line guy now. Are those just assumptions due to his size?Should be called the Superstar and the Drive Killer. Stewart can't get 1 yard if a defender gets a hand on him. His goal line failures this year far exceed his ability to punch it in.scrumptrulescent said:Double Trouble is the best they can think up for these guys? Pretty creativejoffer said:just found this
FavreCo
Footballguy
Yes I own DeAngelo and no, Stewart has sucked as the GL back. Check the game logs. Last week he failed miserably on 2 series. On one, he scored from 1 yard out but who couldn't on that play. I watch every game.Then2-5-ATL5 (13:16) J.Stewart up the middle to ATL 4 for 1 yard (M.Peterson, C.Lofton). Later1-3-ATL3 (1:59) D.Williams up the middle to ATL 1 for 2 yards (J.Anderson). 2-1-ATL1 (1:15) J.Stewart up the middle to ATL 4 for -3 yards (J.Anderson). The week before that:1-10-CAR15 (13:34) J.Stewart left end to CAR 13 for -2 yards (J.Vilma, J.Dunbar). 2-12-CAR13 (12:54) J.Stewart left tackle to CAR 14 for 1 yard (J.Vilma). 3-11-CAR14 (12:08) J.Stewart right end to CAR 16 for 2 yards (T.Porter, R.Harper). FUMBLES (T.Porter), RECOVERED by NO-P.Prioleau at CAR 16. P.Prioleau to CAR 16 for no gain (J.Stewart). 3 carries, 1 yard + fumble for this drive killer. He has no moves. DeAngelo is 10x the RB this guy is.
Titus Pullo
Footballguy
good point all of stewart's carries from the opp 5 and closer:1 6:18 0 - 3 1st-and-1 opp 01 rushed for 1 yards TOUCHDOWN2 1:14 14 - 10 2nd-and-1 opp 01 rushed for -3 yards1 8:28 0 - 0 3rd-and-1 opp 02 rushed for 0 yards1 8:14 0 - 0 4th-and-1 opp 02 rushed for 1 yards (first down)2 11:20 0 - 7 1st-and-2 opp 02 rushed for 0 yards2 10:41 0 - 7 2nd-and-2 opp 02 rushed for 0 yards1 10:00 0 - 0 2nd-and-2 opp 03 rushed for 1 yards4 1:35 21 - 21 2nd-and-2 opp 04 rushed for 1 yards2 13:15 3-Jul 2nd-and-5 opp 05 rushed for 1 yardsstewart does better between the opp 6 and 10:1 7:27 0 - 0 3rd-and-2 opp 06 rushed for 6 yards TOUCHDOWN4 9:24 17-Dec 2nd-and-6 opp 08 rushed for 8 yards TOUCHDOWN1 8:07 0 - 0 2nd-and-6 opp 10 rushed for 4 yards2 14:59 7-Jul 2nd-and-10 opp 10 rushed for 10 yards TOUCHDOWN
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I've seen many sites make this assertion, too, and it's just false. They don't have a goal-line RB. The 2 RBs share carries, in virtually all situations. Williams gets about 63% of the carries, with Stewart getting about 30%.Stewarts TDs this year:I admittedly don't get to see much Carolina football since I'm in the Midwest so I was unaware of this. Most sites are lauding Stewart as the goal line guy now. Are those just assumptions due to his size?Should be called the Superstar and the Drive Killer. Stewart can't get 1 yard if a defender gets a hand on him. His goal line failures this year far exceed his ability to punch it in.scrumptrulescent said:Double Trouble is the best they can think up for these guys? Pretty creativejoffer said:just found this
Week 10 (2)
>A 1 yard TD in the 1st quarter. This occured at the end of a drive that was done almost entirely in the no-huddle offense. Williams got the 1st 2 carries of the drive (which started at Carolina's 20). After those 1st 2 carries, Stewart was in on the drive, and when Steve Smith was tackled at the one, Stewart stayed in and got the goal-line plunge.
>A 45 yard TD run, on 3rd and 4. Williams got the 1st 2 carries, then Stewart was inserted on a likely passing down, and the play call fooled the defense, and Stewart rolled for a long TD.
Week 8(2)
>Stewart ran in a 6 yard TD, to cap off a 15 play, 7 & 1/2 minute drive. Williams last carry/reception was play #7, at 3 minutes, 10 seconds of the drive. Stewart was the RB for the last 4 minutes and 20 seconds.
>Stewart ran in a 10 yard TD. This occured 2 plays after Williams had busted a 77 yard run down to the 10 yard line. After the run, Williams was taken out to get a breather.
Week 6(1)
>Stewart had a 26 yard TD run. This ended a drive that took only 6 plays and a little under 3 minutes. Williams had 3 straight carries for 26 yards, then Delhomme threw 1 short pass, Stewart got two carries, the second of which was the 26 yard TD.
Week 5(1)
>8 yard TD run. This TD came after Washington muffed a punt, and Carolina recovered. After the recovery, Stewart ran 2 plays, a 4 yarder, and the 8 yard TD. It should be noted that Stewart ran the ball twice, and was the target of a pass on a 3rd play before Carolina punted. This was Stewart's playing time, and he took advantage.
So, you have 6 Stewart TDs, and I can't see how anyone could make the case that he was a "goal-line" RB in any of these TDs. Only 4 TDs were inside the 10, and in only 1 of these 4 instances did Stewart replace Williams to get the TD, and that only happened because Williams had just broken a 77-yard run.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Redzone looks this year...
Stewart has 2 more redzone carries but Williams has been more effective in the redzone and has obviously been more active in the passing game.
So DWill is playing for sure? I am at work (west coast) and only have limited access to internet. Anybody?
cahut13
Footballguy
I am watching NFL Network and it says that both Jon Stewart and Deangelo are active.
THANK YOU!
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
weightng Jamaal Charles vs MSW vs Stewart (with DW already in)
Part of me want sto run both car backs to avoid the suckouts as I think they run a lot tonight. especially with goodson out.
Part of me want sto run both car backs to avoid the suckouts as I think they run a lot tonight. especially with goodson out.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
anyone can attest to how they look?
sorry if wrong thread, but with Goodson and Moore inactive, who is returning kickoffs, those were their 2 top guys
gregjcross
Footballguy
Nothing has changed since last week when both were listed "questionable" by Fox yet there was no question that both would play. All CAR is doing is covering its butt concerning the NFL policy. Move along
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
was kinda wondering how Stewart looked with the short week and all.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
This is correct. After watching that game I have no doubts. Deangelo is a flat out stud....it was obvious who the much better RB is.
