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Carr to be Traded soon (1 Viewer)
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saintfool
Dead sexy
my thinking is that they wouldn't pull a trigger on adding carr until they had a deal that moved green finalized. it would be a nightmare scenario for herm - not unthinkable mind you - to have to juggle huard, croyle, green and then carr publicly.
kylechoffman
Footballguy
GB sends rodgers to Oakland for moss and whatever other terms were floating over the airwaves.
GB then grabs Carr for a third or later.
Carr backs up Favre and learns a thing or two about how to win.
GB then grabs Carr for a third or later.
Carr backs up Favre and learns a thing or two about how to win.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
If Green goes to Miami....KC should take a look....not sold on Huard...let Carr come in and compete.....good O-line and running game....to me Carr is an upgrade over Huard...........
Other teams where I could see Carr making some sense:1. Oakland - That line (and play-calling) would probably get him killed, but he would be a significant upgrade over Walter and Brooks IMHO, and would allow the team to focus on Calvin Johnson at #1OA.2. Miami - Harrington is gone and Culpepper isn't healthy. Cleo Lemon has been growing on me over the past year, but Carr would offer some good depth at the position and could easily start if Culpepper isn't ready.3. Chicago - If Rex Grossman can take them to a Super Bowl, David Carr with an actual O-Line might be able to make the Bears look like the Steelers of the 1970s or the Patriots of the "modern" era. :(4. Minnesota - Childress aside, Carr is ten-times better a QB1-2 option than Brooks Bollinger, if the team feels that T. Jackson is not ready to be handed the reigns.5. Kansas City - Huard isn't getting any younger, and Trent Green appears as though he is on the way out. Unless the team sees something in Brodie Croyle or Omar Jacobs that we haven't seen as of yet, Carr would be an EXCELLENT option here...and could push Huard to start right away.6. Carolina - The Panthers need talent at QB, and I personally believe that Carr has talent/potential. Delhomme hasn't set the world on fire either lately, so worth a stir of the pot.7. Cleveland - Better than ANY of the QB options currently on their roster, IMHO....though Cleveland isn't really the best landing spot for him.8. Green Bay - I think Carr is better than Aaron Rodgers or Ingle Martin, and Favre isn't getting any younger....9. Tampa Bay - Might come in and push for the starting job right away, regardless of Garcia, Simms, and Gradkowski.10. Atlanta - How ironic would that be?
I think I'm a bit higher on Carr than many on this board. However, I guess I would list the Bears and Chiefs as my own personal "dark horse" candidates. 
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That's not a bad projection.GB sends rodgers to Oakland for moss and whatever other terms were floating over the airwaves.GB then grabs Carr for a third or later.Carr backs up Favre and learns a thing or two about how to win.
TecmoBeast
Footballguy
Teams aren't going to give up much for Carr at this point. Everyone knows he's going to get cut. Texans are going to take a low round draft pick in the end
Rozelle
Moderator
The more I think about this, the more I think its verly unlikely Carr is traded. Why on God's green earth would Carr renegotiate? If a team is interested in trading for him, they'll be interested when he is a FA. I mean, put yourself in his shoes, would you? Lets expand the playing field by being released.
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massraider
Footballguy
If Oakland thought he was good enough to affect their decision with the #1 overall pick, he'd already have been traded to them.
Rozelle
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I just don't see any team willing to pick up his current salary. Something like 11.25 million for '07 & '08. So the fact he hasn't been traded, really has little to do with teams being interested.
Boone22
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The Latest from KFFL...
Vikings | Team interested in Carr
Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:57:25 -0700
Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Minnesota Vikings are interested in acquiring Houston Texans QB David Carr.
Raiders | Team interested in Carr
Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:54:47 -0700
Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Oakland Raiders are interested in acquiring Houston Texans QB David Carr.
Dolphins | Culpepper may be cut
Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:46:54 -0700
Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports if the Miami Dolphins trade for either Kansas City Chiefs QB Trent Green or Houston Texans QB David Carr, QB Daunte Culpepper will be released.
Vikings | Team interested in Carr
Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:57:25 -0700
Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Minnesota Vikings are interested in acquiring Houston Texans QB David Carr.
Raiders | Team interested in Carr
Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:54:47 -0700
Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Oakland Raiders are interested in acquiring Houston Texans QB David Carr.
Dolphins | Culpepper may be cut
Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:46:54 -0700
Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports if the Miami Dolphins trade for either Kansas City Chiefs QB Trent Green or Houston Texans QB David Carr, QB Daunte Culpepper will be released.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Yes, if OAK has decided on a QB in the draft, there is no need for him. Indications are that this is the case. Whether they take a QB at #1 or trade down, it looks to me (based on their actions/inactions this offseason) like they are going QB and not Calvin Johnson.I think Carr begins in a backup role somewhere, with a chance to compete to start either this year or next. He's just not highly sought after and will have to prove to his new team that the shortcomings were a matter of circumstance in HOU and not of his own making. He won't be handed the keys to a starting job anywhere.
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massraider
Footballguy
Any team that would trade for him, a contract renegotiation is assumed.My point is that if the Raiders thought he was a viable candidate to be a franchise guy, they would have at least gotten to the point of discussing contract parameters, the way the Shaub deal wasn't finalized till a contract was done. The salary thing can be worked out. Carr knows he isn't getting that money. Carr can be had for a mid-rounder right now, and the price is dropping. And it sounds like the Raiders haven't even gotten past the sniffing-butts stage. So I find it hard to believe that they think enough of him to affect their decision at #1. If they thought that highly of him, one would think they'd be trying to keep the Vikes or Fins from snagging a quality QB.
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
He's just trying to get the asking price dropped from a 5th rounder to a 7th rounder!!lions327 said:
massraider
Footballguy
Come on. If they were discussing deal with Carr, we'd have heard about it.
Rozelle
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Your probably right. Its hard to tell with all the smoke and mirrors that go on this time of year. But it also hard to keep a secret.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
lions327 said:
Childress.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Extremely interesting.What if Culpepper gets cut and ends up in Oakland?Boone22 said:
Culpepper to Moss: Redux?
Oakland takes Joe Thomas?
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PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Too lazy to look into it, but I presume this would not mean Miami takes a huge cap hit? I guess they signed him to an incentive heavy deal or something?
BostonSportsGuy
Footballguy
I'd love to see him on the Los Angeles Avengers. His mobility is exactly what the team needs at QB. I'm fairly certain we could get him for a 5th round Arena League draft pick.
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
I think KC would be the best place for Carr. Would be great for the Chiefs to get some youth at that position as well.
T Man
Footballguy
A trade for Carr elimminates bidding for him on the open market.
Carr may not want to be cut, as he may not think he can get the money he is due if he is cut. Plus, even through a trade he can direct where he wants to go because he can choose to renegotitate or not.
In a renegotitation, it is presumed that Carr will get more up-front money or guaranteed money and it will be extended at least a year.
Schefter is usually right on, so Childress may just be blowing smoke.
If Oakland gets Carr, I don't think it necessarily stops them from goinig QB. It just gives them more options. Plus, aA rookie QB will likely not be a major difference in W's and L's this season. So the rookie could sit back a year.
The most interesting thing about Schefter's comments was that Culpepper may be cut if Miami gets Green or Carr. WOW. THat mans either C-Pep is not healthy and/or Cameron does not think that C-Pep can get the scheme.
Not to surprising though because if you look at the QBs Cameron has had, C-Pep really doesn't mesh. Quinn seems to be the type of QB that fits into Cameron's offense. If Green is traded for, many experts will say that MIA will not draft a QB. But given Green's age, I would think that Cameron may still go Quinn if he is there. LEt him learn like Brees did.
As an aside, People dis Saban about the trade for C-Pep, but IIRC he wanted Brees and the medical staff told him not to go with Brees because of the arm, and that C-PEp would be healthy. If C-Pep is gone - and Cameron owes no allegiance to him -- then it appears that the med staff made a BIG mistake.
Carr may not want to be cut, as he may not think he can get the money he is due if he is cut. Plus, even through a trade he can direct where he wants to go because he can choose to renegotitate or not.
In a renegotitation, it is presumed that Carr will get more up-front money or guaranteed money and it will be extended at least a year.
Schefter is usually right on, so Childress may just be blowing smoke.
If Oakland gets Carr, I don't think it necessarily stops them from goinig QB. It just gives them more options. Plus, aA rookie QB will likely not be a major difference in W's and L's this season. So the rookie could sit back a year.
The most interesting thing about Schefter's comments was that Culpepper may be cut if Miami gets Green or Carr. WOW. THat mans either C-Pep is not healthy and/or Cameron does not think that C-Pep can get the scheme.
Not to surprising though because if you look at the QBs Cameron has had, C-Pep really doesn't mesh. Quinn seems to be the type of QB that fits into Cameron's offense. If Green is traded for, many experts will say that MIA will not draft a QB. But given Green's age, I would think that Cameron may still go Quinn if he is there. LEt him learn like Brees did.
As an aside, People dis Saban about the trade for C-Pep, but IIRC he wanted Brees and the medical staff told him not to go with Brees because of the arm, and that C-PEp would be healthy. If C-Pep is gone - and Cameron owes no allegiance to him -- then it appears that the med staff made a BIG mistake.
Domination
Footballguy
If this were to actually happen, I think that the Raiders might actually be competitive this coming year.Extremely interesting.What if Culpepper gets cut and ends up in Oakland?Boone22 said:
Culpepper to Moss: Redux?
Oakland takes Joe Thomas?
prymetyme25
Footballguy
Dolphins trade talks begin with Texans about acquiring QB Carr
Written by: ARMANDO SALGUERO ¦ 3/23/2007
Source: www.miamiherald.com
The Dolphins are Carr shopping.
The club's brain trust spent part of Thursday speaking with the Houston Texans about quarterback David Carr and investigating all aspects of a possible trade for the former first overall pick in the 2002 draft.
Carr ending up in Miami is not a certainty. But it is a possibility that speaks to Miami's uncertain quarterback situation.
The team's interest in Carr, and even in Kansas City quarterback Trent Green, coupled with coach Cam Cameron's cautious words when he last spoke about Daunte Culpepper, indicate that Culpepper is not assured of being the team's starter in 2007.
Culpepper, despite being 17 months and two surgeries removed from an October 2005 injury to his right knee, might still not be completely healthy. The Dolphins don't really have a certainty Culpepper will reach that complete health and don't have a guarantee the player will pick up Cameron's new system if he does get healthy.
That irresolute scenario sparked the interest in Green, 36, as an insurance policy.
But the possibility that Carr, 27, would make the Dolphins better for years to come makes the interest in him more logical.
Carr is a career 60 percent passer, a statistic buoyed by his 68 percent completion rate in 2006. His best season came in 2004, when he passed for 3,531 yards, with 16 touchdowns, 14 interceptions and an 83.5 quarterback rating. Dolphins defensive coordinator Dom Capers was the Texans' coach that year.
Capers' opinion of Carr will play a role in the Dolphins' aggressiveness in pursuing the trade. The Dolphins might also hope Carr is released and try to sign him as a free agent.
Carr's full potential as a franchise quarterback never materialized for the Texans, and that is why he is being shopped following the team's acquisition of Matt Schaub from Atlanta.
''We're working with his representatives and David to find a place for him to continue his NFL career,'' Texans general manager Rick Smith said. ``Matt is our starting quarterback. We're trying to help David find another place. We're trying to trade him [Thursday], maybe the next couple of days.''
Carr's agent, Michael Sullivan, did not return a phone message. Carr would have to rework his contract that has two years remaining for a trade to work.
Cameron was unavailable for comment. He will conduct a news conference today but likely will decline commenting about Carr as long as the player remains the property of another team.
The Texans are not going to extract a great price for Carr, but definitely want something such as a mid-round draft pick. One NFL personnel official with interest in the situation said the Oakland Raiders and Minnesota Vikings also had shown interest in Carr.
But if the Dolphins really want Carr, they can have him, the personnel official said, by exchanging first-round picks with the Texans. The Texans have the No. 10 pick. The Dolphins are scheduled to pick at No. 9.
http://www.miamiherald.com
Written by: ARMANDO SALGUERO ¦ 3/23/2007
Source: www.miamiherald.com
The Dolphins are Carr shopping.
The club's brain trust spent part of Thursday speaking with the Houston Texans about quarterback David Carr and investigating all aspects of a possible trade for the former first overall pick in the 2002 draft.
Carr ending up in Miami is not a certainty. But it is a possibility that speaks to Miami's uncertain quarterback situation.
The team's interest in Carr, and even in Kansas City quarterback Trent Green, coupled with coach Cam Cameron's cautious words when he last spoke about Daunte Culpepper, indicate that Culpepper is not assured of being the team's starter in 2007.
Culpepper, despite being 17 months and two surgeries removed from an October 2005 injury to his right knee, might still not be completely healthy. The Dolphins don't really have a certainty Culpepper will reach that complete health and don't have a guarantee the player will pick up Cameron's new system if he does get healthy.
That irresolute scenario sparked the interest in Green, 36, as an insurance policy.
But the possibility that Carr, 27, would make the Dolphins better for years to come makes the interest in him more logical.
Carr is a career 60 percent passer, a statistic buoyed by his 68 percent completion rate in 2006. His best season came in 2004, when he passed for 3,531 yards, with 16 touchdowns, 14 interceptions and an 83.5 quarterback rating. Dolphins defensive coordinator Dom Capers was the Texans' coach that year.
Capers' opinion of Carr will play a role in the Dolphins' aggressiveness in pursuing the trade. The Dolphins might also hope Carr is released and try to sign him as a free agent.
Carr's full potential as a franchise quarterback never materialized for the Texans, and that is why he is being shopped following the team's acquisition of Matt Schaub from Atlanta.
''We're working with his representatives and David to find a place for him to continue his NFL career,'' Texans general manager Rick Smith said. ``Matt is our starting quarterback. We're trying to help David find another place. We're trying to trade him [Thursday], maybe the next couple of days.''
Carr's agent, Michael Sullivan, did not return a phone message. Carr would have to rework his contract that has two years remaining for a trade to work.
Cameron was unavailable for comment. He will conduct a news conference today but likely will decline commenting about Carr as long as the player remains the property of another team.
The Texans are not going to extract a great price for Carr, but definitely want something such as a mid-round draft pick. One NFL personnel official with interest in the situation said the Oakland Raiders and Minnesota Vikings also had shown interest in Carr.
But if the Dolphins really want Carr, they can have him, the personnel official said, by exchanging first-round picks with the Texans. The Texans have the No. 10 pick. The Dolphins are scheduled to pick at No. 9.
http://www.miamiherald.com
T Man
Footballguy
There is a 100 point difference between the two picks, or the equivalent of a high 4th rounder.I could see Cameron thinking he can "save" Carr; and, I could seeCapers giving Huzienga a thumbs up. It doesn't cost the Dolphins a pick, and it is possible that the player they want at 9 would still be on the board at 10.
I still think they should wait and see if Carr is cut this weekend. Rick Smith says it will all happen fast (one way or another). So wait and see if the Texans cut him and then go after him.
Also, if Carr or Green is obtained, do the Fins cut C-Pep or do they try to recoup a lower level pick in trade (like a trade to the Raiders)?
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
As much as I can't stand either Moss or Culpepper, I think this is actually a GREAT scenario for the Raiders. There is obviously a familiarity between DC and RM and if C-Pep's knee is recovering (it's a year and a half now), this could definitely work. It would really free them up in the draft too.If this were to actually happen, I think that the Raiders might actually be competitive this coming year.Extremely interesting.What if Culpepper gets cut and ends up in Oakland?Boone22 said:
Culpepper to Moss: Redux?
Oakland takes Joe Thomas?
massraider
Footballguy
Do we get a time machine as well, to go back in time and get the good Daunte?
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I completely understand.But in the equation of Culpepper + Moss, the whole seems to be greater than the sum of the parts. And Culpepper did say he'd like to play with Moss again.
massraider
Footballguy
I just think there's too much water under the bridge, too many injuries to both players, too much age, and too much Moss last year for me to get excited about that.
Trying to recreate 3 year old magic between a QB with a busted drumstick, and a WR that flat out quit on his team is not my first choice for this season.
Trying to recreate 3 year old magic between a QB with a busted drumstick, and a WR that flat out quit on his team is not my first choice for this season.
Andy Dufresne
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prymetyme25
Footballguy
i think the texans should try to get a pick because at 10 the player they want should be there.But then again didn't cleveland get a 2nd round pick for a one spot jump?
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
If I'm Miami, I do that in a heartbeat. I see no downside to the Dolphins in this.Edit: Which side is offering this?
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massraider
Footballguy
Davis type move.
I could just see the conversation in a few years:"Ha ha, remember back in 2007, when the Raiders passed on Russell and Quinn because Davis thought Culpepper and Moss were gonna rebound?" No thanks. Draft Russell, sign C-Pepp, trade Moss, I'm fine with that.But Moss wants out. He might get mildly excited when Pepp comes to town, but as soon as Miami Daunte shows up, and the Raiders start 0-2, Moss'll check out again.
Gatorman
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saw it on the herald site.
Miami would try to trade culpepper. I can see them getting a late second day pick for him at that point or cutting him outright.
First we had the RB musical chairs, then the WR FA musical chairs, and now the QB slot musical chairs is happenning. Should be a very interesting draft this year.
Miami would try to trade culpepper. I can see them getting a late second day pick for him at that point or cutting him outright.
First we had the RB musical chairs, then the WR FA musical chairs, and now the QB slot musical chairs is happenning. Should be a very interesting draft this year.
twistd
Footballguy
Wow, Culpepper could be cut? Last year I thought the Dolphins getting him for a second round draft pick was brilliant. I think that the damage to his knee must be more signifigant than they have let on. If he loses mobility, and can no longer run anymore, then he becomes a very average QB.
Except they get Carr.
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
So you are saying that Carr is worse than Cleo Lemon?
FavreCo
Footballguy
Kubiak made that mistake, since corrected. Downgrade all WR's wherever this guy ends up. Upgrade pass catching RB's.
T Man
Footballguy
Looks like Carr won't be traded after all -- and definitely not to Miami.Adam Schefter reports:
He also said that the Dolphins have reached agreement with Trent Green and now are talking to the Chiefs to work out compensation. If this is the case, C-Pep may be on the market as well.
FavreCo
Footballguy
You got a Dolphin WR on your FFL team? I would say that you don't.
FavreCo
Footballguy
Dodged, the deadly Carr bullet, if true.
coolnerd
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Linkage
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Since I prefer winning FFL games, no I don't have any Dolphin recievers on my teams.
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