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CB Pat Surtain II, Broncos (1 Viewer)
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-OZ-
Footballguy
imagine trading a running back for him. Even Gibbs would be laughable.
Stoneworker
Footballguy
They also had two pick sixes, three INTs, three sacks and a victory. So at the end of the day not a bad tradeoff
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
Letting Surtain shut down one side of the field and then giving help to the corner on the other side against the top wideout makes sense in a lot of cases. Surtain has traveled, but part of the problem is their starting corner was down last night. The larger problem was that Wallace wasn't ever given help and he seemed like a deer in headlights all night long. He looked like he's never played the position before. Jeudy's stats were eye-popping, but there were plenty more big plays against Wallace last night when Jeudy was covered by Surtain. This was a scheme and adjustment issue that falls squarely on the shoulders of Payton and Joseph. It wasn't until the last few minutes of the game that they woke up, benched Wallace, and started playing coverage. I have no idea what they were thinking, but Denver was very lucky to escape this one with a W.
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
Yeah, lucky is right, between that and the utter fiasco of clock management. They could've lost due to burning two TO's.
Why the hell any coach tries to the oldest and now dumbest trick in the book still -- the draw them offsides with cadence thing -- is beyond me. Let's run the success rate on that through analytics. And the amount of lost offensive plays (if needed) it can cost you. It's ridiculous. Worked a few times in the 90's and was all the rage.
Hello, it's 2024 and nobody bites on it anymore, put it to bed.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
The Steelers did win a game a few weeks ago running that play when the defender jumped lol. It was hysterical.
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
Ha, yep, dummy. And poor coaching. It's just as stupid to keep trying something that rarely works, especially considering the cost. The percentages are so low.
There are instances when it's a no-huddle and the D is scrambling and/or you absolutely won't need your TOs, fine. Otherwise, idiotic.
Stoneworker
Footballguy
AFC Defensive Player of the Month for November. Only thrown at on 12 percent of passes attempted. Only completed against on 6 percent
In four November games, opposing quarterbacks threw to a receiver covered by Surtain 17 times on 140 passing snaps. They had nine completions for 55 yards and no touchdowns. Surtain also made 12 tackles and broke up two passes.
In four November games, opposing quarterbacks threw to a receiver covered by Surtain 17 times on 140 passing snaps. They had nine completions for 55 yards and no touchdowns. Surtain also made 12 tackles and broke up two passes.
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TampaMike19
Footballguy
This guy was ready to tackle chase the moment he caught the ball. Didn’t allow him to break loose at all.
-jb-
Footballguy
CB will always be a tough sell because no stats (targets/receptions/scores) is harder to measure vs a DE/DT (tackles/sacks).
But I agree he’s deserving.
-OZ-
Footballguy
I’d get that if it were the average fan voting. These voters are supposed to understand the game better.
