Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
That is funny stuff! Nice to see we have a budding rivalry here. Since the Ravens took their downward spiral the AFC North has gotten boring.
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Chad Johnson took a swing at Marvin? (1 Viewer)
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I am a Cowboy fan. But what I think is hillarious is the only thing the Steelers can brag about is beating the Bengals. How many years were the Bengals the worst team in the NFL? Look back in 1998 they won 3 games, 2 of those wins were against you guessed it, the Steelers. While you are at let me know how many times Pitts has been in the last 25 SuperBowls and then let me know how many times the Bengals have been there. Face it you won a playoff game against a young team that lost its starting QB on the second play of the game. I'd brag about that too. The Steelers have been real good walking over a easy division in the past, and making the playoffs only to lose. This year is just going to be another example.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Ha! Take a look at the records of the Pittsburgh Steelers and Dallas Cowboys in the past 10 seasons and tell me which team is better. The Cowboys haven't won a playoff game since 1996 and couldn't even beat the pitiful Arizona Cardinals in the playoffs AT HOME!And the last time I checked the Steelers are 2-1 against the Cowboys in the Super Bowl.
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CrossEyed
Guest
Here's a question I haven't see asked. After allowing Chad to be Chad all season and having success, why did Marvin put a muzzle on him the week before the playoff game? Why change what is working just fine? Nobody ever really took what he said seriously. Anytime a Pittsburgh reporter would bring up CJs comments in the Steeler locker room, the guys would just laugh about it. There was no animosity, and it really never became "bulletin board material". Was making him be quiet all week a mistake?
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
I wonder the same thing about putting a lid on Chad - I fear that it took some of the rhythm out of Chad's mental prep (seriously).Cowher - very classy. Especially given that it was against a former member of his staff. Cowboy fan - gotta agree with the Steeler folks here - you need to argue with the Eagles fan about who the 3rd best team in the NFC East is.Looks like the division's starting to shape up the class days in the late 80s when none of the coaches should hands with each other - the lineup then? :WycheNollGlanvilleSchottenheimerSome good stuff back then.-QG
Funny, you should bring up 1996 wasn't that the year the Steelers lost the SuperBowl, their only appearance in 25 SuperBowls. I am not going to sit here and rub 5 SuperBowl rings to your 4 under your nose. But I can say I am happy as heck that NFC East is going to be a tough and feared division in years to come, its only going to put pressure on the Cowboys to be better. There is no pride in walking over a weak division, or beating a team who loses their starting qb on the 2nd play of the game.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
But perhaps that's just it. I don't think there's anything at this point that these teams can say or not say vs. each other to further fuel things. The blood's bad and it's gonna stay bad. Btw, I think Chad's desire to keep the incident quiet was more about keeping these things 'in house' which is in keeping with Marvin's desires. I also do believe what Chad said in Bengals.com - if it were serious enough his ### would find the pine.-QG
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trader jake
Guest
what do you call taking a swing at a coach?
Wingnut
Footballguy
Its all just a heat of the moment thing...probably overblown a bit. It was a stupid & immature thing to do but Im not putting CJ into TOs class (pun intended) yet. Emotions get the best of some players in the heat of battle...CJ needs to grow up a bit, and Im betting he will.
Power Monster
The Midnight Stalker
CJ is at a crossroads now- he is either going to shut his mouth and play hard like Marvin Harrison or he is going to turn into another punk like that stooge TO...
BigJim®
Footballguy
Well, it's neither here nor there but related to this post and I don't want to start up a new thread:
COWHERD BLOWS UP ON BLOGS
We received several e-mails on Monday from readers who heard the commentary of ESPN Radio's Colin Cowherd regarding our story on the Chad Johnson locker room brouhaha of eight days ago. Although most readers concluded that Cowherd was slamming us specifically, we've listened to the podcast of his comments, and we concluded that maybe he was . . . maybe he wasn't.
Here's a transcript of the relevant portion of his remarks, followed by our interpretation of Cowherd's rant:
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"It was on this profootballtalk.com. I don't know about it. Don't know squat about it. Here's the problem though is that blogs and message boards throw so much stuff out there. They get some stuff right. Now their percentage of accuracy is horrible. But that doesn't mean they're never right. The problem is their percentage of right is bad. Newspapers have a much higher percentage. Mainstream media has a much higher percentage. If the mainstream media is wrong they get called on the carpet. When blogs are right it's the only time you hear about it. And the problem with blogs and message boards, there is so much ridiculous junk out there the legitimate stuff gets lumped in with it.
"To a large degree that's what we feel about this show. My business is sports talk radio. I prep four hours a day. I take it seriously, we take it seriously as a staff. But sometimes we get lumped in with the local meatball who talks pro wresting during afternoon drive and walks into the studio six minutes before his show starts. We try to separate ourselves, we try to book better guests. We try to sound like we know what we're doin'. Sometimes we get lumped into, 'Oh, you do sports talk radio.'
"And blogs and message boards would be much more relevant if a higher percentage of them were legit. But too many are run by guys who strictly go on rumors. But message boards and blogs, they do have occasional members with insight. If you go to a college football message board, a lot of times it's the dad of the quarterback, it's the local booster who's checking stuff out. Sometimes they know. They know the coaches. They know the administrators.
"So I never pass off information from a blog or a message board. I'll look at it. I'm not gonna go huntin' for it. If somebody hands me something, I'll look at it and I'll read it. 95 percent of it's total junk. And it's run by people with huge agendas, who let's be honest about the word of blog, a lot of people just aren't smart enough to get real jobs, real high-paying jobs in the media. A lot of those people. Not all of them, a lot of them.
"Do I think this has truth to it? Absolutely. Chad Johnson. Big personality. Big emotional guy. I wouldn't be shocked at all if he got loose in the locker room and a receivers coach came over to reprimand him and, you know, in all that wild activity something happened. Blog says it's true, Marvin Lewis denies it, I have no idea what's right.
"But clearly something happened. And clearly this profootballtalk.com has somebody on the inside. So I think sometimes it can be legit. But I'm not wading through the thousands of message boards, which are usually agenda driven and sloppy. But there is stuff out there from time to time that's legit. So I don't think we should discard all of it."
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As an initial matter, we're surprised by Cowherd's statement that he doesn't know "squat" about our site, and that he never "pass[es] off information from a blog or a message board." On June 10, Cowherd read during his show -- word for word -- a story we'd posted regarding the Miami Dolphins and coach Nick Saban.
Word for word.
More importantly, we're not sure whether Cowherd's statements were an indictment of our site, or whether he was simply making general comments regarding the entire industry of blogs and message boards. We consider ourselves to be a cutting-edge source of NFL news, gossip, analysis, and humor. When we are breaking hard news, we say so. When were are trafficking in rumor derived from folks in the know, we say so.
And just as Cowherd's message often is diluted by the meatballs out there who engage in limited show prep and talk merely to hear the sound of their own voices echoing in their headsets, we're hamstrung by the fact that, for every site like ours that is dancing in the margins of the mainstream, there are dozens of blogs that add no new information and no fresh insights.
So, for now, we'll regard Cowherd's take as a vaguely-defined, backhanded compliment. And we're hoping that the folks out there in positions of influence who know that we're legit will let others know that, generally speaking, we're a tad bit more filet than meatball.
COWHERD BLOWS UP ON BLOGS
We received several e-mails on Monday from readers who heard the commentary of ESPN Radio's Colin Cowherd regarding our story on the Chad Johnson locker room brouhaha of eight days ago. Although most readers concluded that Cowherd was slamming us specifically, we've listened to the podcast of his comments, and we concluded that maybe he was . . . maybe he wasn't.
Here's a transcript of the relevant portion of his remarks, followed by our interpretation of Cowherd's rant:
---------------------------------------
"It was on this profootballtalk.com. I don't know about it. Don't know squat about it. Here's the problem though is that blogs and message boards throw so much stuff out there. They get some stuff right. Now their percentage of accuracy is horrible. But that doesn't mean they're never right. The problem is their percentage of right is bad. Newspapers have a much higher percentage. Mainstream media has a much higher percentage. If the mainstream media is wrong they get called on the carpet. When blogs are right it's the only time you hear about it. And the problem with blogs and message boards, there is so much ridiculous junk out there the legitimate stuff gets lumped in with it.
"To a large degree that's what we feel about this show. My business is sports talk radio. I prep four hours a day. I take it seriously, we take it seriously as a staff. But sometimes we get lumped in with the local meatball who talks pro wresting during afternoon drive and walks into the studio six minutes before his show starts. We try to separate ourselves, we try to book better guests. We try to sound like we know what we're doin'. Sometimes we get lumped into, 'Oh, you do sports talk radio.'
"And blogs and message boards would be much more relevant if a higher percentage of them were legit. But too many are run by guys who strictly go on rumors. But message boards and blogs, they do have occasional members with insight. If you go to a college football message board, a lot of times it's the dad of the quarterback, it's the local booster who's checking stuff out. Sometimes they know. They know the coaches. They know the administrators.
"So I never pass off information from a blog or a message board. I'll look at it. I'm not gonna go huntin' for it. If somebody hands me something, I'll look at it and I'll read it. 95 percent of it's total junk. And it's run by people with huge agendas, who let's be honest about the word of blog, a lot of people just aren't smart enough to get real jobs, real high-paying jobs in the media. A lot of those people. Not all of them, a lot of them.
"Do I think this has truth to it? Absolutely. Chad Johnson. Big personality. Big emotional guy. I wouldn't be shocked at all if he got loose in the locker room and a receivers coach came over to reprimand him and, you know, in all that wild activity something happened. Blog says it's true, Marvin Lewis denies it, I have no idea what's right.
"But clearly something happened. And clearly this profootballtalk.com has somebody on the inside. So I think sometimes it can be legit. But I'm not wading through the thousands of message boards, which are usually agenda driven and sloppy. But there is stuff out there from time to time that's legit. So I don't think we should discard all of it."
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As an initial matter, we're surprised by Cowherd's statement that he doesn't know "squat" about our site, and that he never "pass[es] off information from a blog or a message board." On June 10, Cowherd read during his show -- word for word -- a story we'd posted regarding the Miami Dolphins and coach Nick Saban.
Word for word.
More importantly, we're not sure whether Cowherd's statements were an indictment of our site, or whether he was simply making general comments regarding the entire industry of blogs and message boards. We consider ourselves to be a cutting-edge source of NFL news, gossip, analysis, and humor. When we are breaking hard news, we say so. When were are trafficking in rumor derived from folks in the know, we say so.
And just as Cowherd's message often is diluted by the meatballs out there who engage in limited show prep and talk merely to hear the sound of their own voices echoing in their headsets, we're hamstrung by the fact that, for every site like ours that is dancing in the margins of the mainstream, there are dozens of blogs that add no new information and no fresh insights.
So, for now, we'll regard Cowherd's take as a vaguely-defined, backhanded compliment. And we're hoping that the folks out there in positions of influence who know that we're legit will let others know that, generally speaking, we're a tad bit more filet than meatball.
baldbird
Footballguy
Now that was funny .
