Normally, I could care less about the nonsense spouted back and forth in these threads, but this one bothered me a little bit. As someone who has less and less time to browse websites these days, I find it quite helpful to see a thread started when something significant(or something perceived as such) happens.Busy <> lazy.So we need three threads on the 1st page basically saying the same thing so lazy people can get their info.Cool.
Whats the point of depth charts if youre gonna track who started the PREVIOUS game?it looks like a retroactive move. last week Mathews had started the previous game and was listed as the #1 RB but Battle started. since Battle started last week he is now listed as #1
Probably because there is no "run" in that DMC...I offered DMC to my brother for him, he turned me down.Ryan Mathews trade value?
Thinking of putting a line in the water for him....
AJ Smith is like the Rich Kotite of GMing
What you call lazy, others might call efficiency. not everyone wants to read 100 posts about Jackie Battle and his efforts last season, just to find a nugget buried in all that.So we need three threads on the 1st page basically saying the same thing so lazy people can get their info.Cool.I don't have Battle or Matthews rostered. I know that Battle has been getting a little playing time, but not really enough to make me wade into a thread about him unless I'm dying for RB help (which I'm not). However, if Battle is now starting above Matthews, that all of a sudden makes Battle interesting, and is news that I otherwise would have missed.I have zero interest in reading a Jackie Battle thread. I have zero interest reading a Ryan Matthews thread. I do have interest in reading that Battle is now starting ahead of Matthews.You guys are right. I guess it wouldn't make sense to scroll down a quarter of a page and post this info in the ***Official JACKIE BATTLE Thread*** instead. My mistake.
So you were wrong!!! Apologize and get your ### out of this thread and go read the others!!!This is major news and it deserves it's own thread!I mean this thread and this thread are both sitting on the front page. Even if it wasn't reported in either one, why not just post the news in their respective threads? No one likes clutter.I had not seen this in any other thread. It is not news? I thought it was.
Try not to let it get you down big guy!I don't usually do this but..this has already been reported in several threads dedicated to this discussion. What was the point of creating a new thread?
Lol..what?So you were wrong!!! Apologize and get your ### out of this thread and go read the others!!!This is major news and it deserves it's own thread!I mean this thread and this thread are both sitting on the front page. Even if it wasn't reported in either one, why not just post the news in their respective threads? No one likes clutter.I had not seen this in any other thread. It is not news? I thought it was.
You win, we are all just really lazy and not nearly as good at internet as you.You guys are right. I guess it wouldn't make sense to scroll down a quarter of a page and post this info in the ***Official JACKIE BATTLE Thread*** instead. My mistake.
Why is it major news? Battle started Sunday and anyone playing even casual attention should have known that by now.So you were wrong!!! Apologize and get your ### out of this thread and go read the others!!!This is major news and it deserves it's own thread!I mean this thread and this thread are both sitting on the front page. Even if it wasn't reported in either one, why not just post the news in their respective threads? No one likes clutter.I had not seen this in any other thread. It is not news? I thought it was.
Why is it major news? Battle started Sunday and anyone playing even casual attention should have known that by now.So you were wrong!!! Apologize and get your ### out of this thread and go read the others!!!This is major news and it deserves it's own thread!I mean this thread and this thread are both sitting on the front page. Even if it wasn't reported in either one, why not just post the news in their respective threads? No one likes clutter.I had not seen this in any other thread. It is not news? I thought it was.
 And while fantasy owners are crying bloody murder the Chargers are 3-1 and 2-0 in the division.
 And while fantasy owners are crying bloody murder the Chargers are 3-1 and 2-0 in the division.Jackie OJackie SlaterJackie TreehornJackie ChanJackie Battlewho am I missing?
not a dudebut all of a sudden I wanna wear a pair of dark sunglassesJackie OJackie SlaterJackie TreehornJackie ChanJackie Battlewho am I missing?
Uh...absolutely. I have a hard enough time keeping up with the Greg Zuerlein thread. I don't follow pages of info on Ryan Williams, who I have no investment in. And yes, I am interested to hear that Powell may be making a move on him, and I would appreciate seeing that as a new topic on the front page.Ah, I get it. So today when I realized W.Powell saw more field time than R.Williams last week, instead of posting it the William Powell thread I should have instead created a new topic. Thanks for the heads up.I don't have Battle or Matthews rostered. I know that Battle has been getting a little playing time, but not really enough to make me wade into a thread about him unless I'm dying for RB help (which I'm not). However, if Battle is now starting above Matthews, that all of a sudden makes Battle interesting, and is news that I otherwise would have missed.I have zero interest in reading a Jackie Battle thread. I have zero interest reading a Ryan Matthews thread. I do have interest in reading that Battle is now starting ahead of Matthews.You guys are right. I guess it wouldn't make sense to scroll down a quarter of a page and post this info in the ***Official JACKIE BATTLE Thread*** instead. My mistake.
You don't have to read 1,000 posts. You go to the last page of a thread and the most recent info will be there.I assume we are, for the most part, all adults here who lead busy lives with careers, family, school, etc. But if you have enough time to be on this site in the first place, let alone posting in threads, then it doesnt take much to open a thread that might be of interest to you and take a quick look at the last page. The busy excuse is just that, an excuse.What you call lazy, others might call efficiency. not everyone wants to read 100 posts about Jackie Battle and his efforts last season, just to find a nugget buried in all that.So we need three threads on the 1st page basically saying the same thing so lazy people can get their info.Cool.I don't have Battle or Matthews rostered. I know that Battle has been getting a little playing time, but not really enough to make me wade into a thread about him unless I'm dying for RB help (which I'm not). However, if Battle is now starting above Matthews, that all of a sudden makes Battle interesting, and is news that I otherwise would have missed.I have zero interest in reading a Jackie Battle thread. I have zero interest reading a Ryan Matthews thread. I do have interest in reading that Battle is now starting ahead of Matthews.You guys are right. I guess it wouldn't make sense to scroll down a quarter of a page and post this info in the ***Official JACKIE BATTLE Thread*** instead. My mistake.
Sorry to keep harping on this, but I'm really surprised to see that so many people think it's a good thing to bury new information on the 21st page of an existing thread.I just looked at the front page, and I see "Russell Wilson Bandwagon" going strong at 21 pages and over 1000 replies. If Matt Flynn were to start taking the first-team reps in practice, are you really saying it makes more sense to post that information on page 22 of that thread, rather than starting a new thread with a relevant subject line that everyone will see on the front page?
 We should probably just go to 32 threads, one for each team.  The board is so cluttered.
We should probably just go to 32 threads, one for each team.  The board is so cluttered.Time to yell out the BATTLE cry, run Jackie runThe Chargers.com depth chart now lists Jackie Battle as San Diego's first-team tailback, ahead of Ryan Mathews.http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4291/jackie-battlehttp://www.chargers.com/team/depth-chart.html

not a retroactive moveBattle is the starter, Mathews is the closerit looks like a retroactive move. last week Mathews had started the previous game and was listed as the #1 RB but Battle started. since Battle started last week he is now listed as #1
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  :For the short-term -- and that could mean one week depending on Sunday's results...not a retroactive moveBattle is the starter, Mathews is the closerit looks like a retroactive move. last week Mathews had started the previous game and was listed as the #1 RB but Battle started. since Battle started last week he is now listed as #1
Battle will tear it up against the Saints and Smith and Turner will look like geniuses.........for a week.For the short-term -- and that could mean one week depending on Sunday's results...not a retroactive moveBattle is the starter, Mathews is the closerit looks like a retroactive move. last week Mathews had started the previous game and was listed as the #1 RB but Battle started. since Battle started last week he is now listed as #1
Jackie ChilesJackie SlaterJackie TreehornJackie ChanJackie Battlewho am I missing?
Jackie "the Joke Man" MartlingJackie ChilesJackie SlaterJackie TreehornJackie ChanJackie Battlewho am I missing?
Jackie OJackie "the Joke Man" MartlingJackie ChilesJackie SlaterJackie TreehornJackie ChanJackie Battlewho am I missing?
What are their winning percentages?AJ Smith is like the Rich Kotite of GMing
not a retroactive moveBattle is the starter, Mathews is the closerit looks like a retroactive move. last week Mathews had started the previous game and was listed as the #1 RB but Battle started. since Battle started last week he is now listed as #1
Battle/Mathews machinations just semantics? According to the Chargers, Jackie Battle vaulted Ryan Mathews on the team's official depth chart because "he just started last week, so that's why he's there." -- Michael Gehlken on Twitter In other words, it's semantics. Although the Chargers' actions have officially gone beyond simple message sending, it's clear they're not on the verge of a sea change in the backfield. Battle's big week came against a non-competitive Chiefs team, and the 29-year-old spare part simply isn't talented enough to out-carry Mathews when games are on the line. Beat writer Michael Gehlken "wouldn't read into" the depth chart shenanigans, and believes it's "likely only a matter of time" before Mathews moves back ahead of Battle. However, Gehlken does expect Battle to remain involved in Week 5, perhaps as the goal-line back. That would be unideal for Mathews' fantasy value, but he's simply too talented not to re-emerge as a RB1, and soon. Mathews remains the top buy-low candidate in all of fantasy football.
Mathews will get his carries, but Battle is going to be trotted out for the first few series to pound at the defense.This may worknot a retroactive moveBattle is the starter, Mathews is the closerit looks like a retroactive move. last week Mathews had started the previous game and was listed as the #1 RB but Battle started. since Battle started last week he is now listed as #1Battle/Mathews machinations just semantics? According to the Chargers, Jackie Battle vaulted Ryan Mathews on the team's official depth chart because "he just started last week, so that's why he's there." -- Michael Gehlken on Twitter In other words, it's semantics. Although the Chargers' actions have officially gone beyond simple message sending, it's clear they're not on the verge of a sea change in the backfield. Battle's big week came against a non-competitive Chiefs team, and the 29-year-old spare part simply isn't talented enough to out-carry Mathews when games are on the line. Beat writer Michael Gehlken "wouldn't read into" the depth chart shenanigans, and believes it's "likely only a matter of time" before Mathews moves back ahead of Battle. However, Gehlken does expect Battle to remain involved in Week 5, perhaps as the goal-line back. That would be unideal for Mathews' fantasy value, but he's simply too talented not to re-emerge as a RB1, and soon. Mathews remains the top buy-low candidate in all of fantasy football.
FYP.Mathews will get his carries, but Battle is going to be trotted out for the first few series to pound at the defense.This may work if the Chargers really don't want to run the ball for the first few series.not a retroactive moveBattle is the starter, Mathews is the closerit looks like a retroactive move. last week Mathews had started the previous game and was listed as the #1 RB but Battle started. since Battle started last week he is now listed as #1Battle/Mathews machinations just semantics? According to the Chargers, Jackie Battle vaulted Ryan Mathews on the team's official depth chart because "he just started last week, so that's why he's there." -- Michael Gehlken on Twitter In other words, it's semantics. Although the Chargers' actions have officially gone beyond simple message sending, it's clear they're not on the verge of a sea change in the backfield. Battle's big week came against a non-competitive Chiefs team, and the 29-year-old spare part simply isn't talented enough to out-carry Mathews when games are on the line. Beat writer Michael Gehlken "wouldn't read into" the depth chart shenanigans, and believes it's "likely only a matter of time" before Mathews moves back ahead of Battle. However, Gehlken does expect Battle to remain involved in Week 5, perhaps as the goal-line back. That would be unideal for Mathews' fantasy value, but he's simply too talented not to re-emerge as a RB1, and soon. Mathews remains the top buy-low candidate in all of fantasy football.
I very strongly doubt this. That would be a great way to blow a few possessions. It worked last week because the Chiefs imploded, but you can't count on teams to do that.Mathews will get his carries, but Battle is going to be trotted out for the first few series to pound at the defense.
The Saints sayI very strongly doubt this. That would be a great way to blow a few possessions. It worked last week because the Chiefs imploded, but you can't count on teams to do that.Mathews will get his carries, but Battle is going to be trotted out for the first few series to pound at the defense.

I think it's funny that in this day and age, old timers like AJ Smith and/or Norv Turner think that motivational tactics like this actually work at the professional level. Young guys laugh at this ####. Unless the player's contract is heavy on performance incentives, there is really no personal impact to benching a guy short term or taking away playing time. It only hurts the rest of the team, if the other guy taking his spot is not as good. It is a very flawed approach that only works at the amateur level.

It's not clear that AJ Smith or Norv Turner have anything to do with what gets posted at Chargers.com.Edit: If you're talking about the actual playing rotation rather than the posted depth chart, then never mind. A good coach will know how this stuff affects a player psychologically, but that may not be Norv Turner's strength, and it's almost certainly not AJ Smith's strength.I think it's funny that in this day and age, old timers like AJ Smith and/or Norv Turner think that motivational tactics like this actually work at the professional level. Young guys laugh at this ####. Unless the player's contract is heavy on performance incentives, there is really no personal impact to benching a guy short term or taking away playing time. It only hurts the rest of the team, if the other guy taking his spot is not as good. It is a very flawed approach that only works at the amateur level.
Judging from Norv's and the players' comments after the KC game, I'm thinking it's less about motivation and more about protecting Mathews. Yes, the GM went on a crazy rant in a newspaper article, but otherwise everyone else has had Mathews' back and saying he wasn't the only one at fault for how his first game and the big fumble went down...Hopefully Mathews breaks out Sunday and normalcy returns to the SD backfield...It's not clear that AJ Smith or Norv Turner have anything to do with what gets posted at Chargers.com.Edit: If you're talking about the actual playing rotation rather than the posted depth chart, then never mind. A good coach will know how this stuff affects a player psychologically, but that may not be Norv Turner's strength, and it's almost certainly not AJ Smith's strength.I think it's funny that in this day and age, old timers like AJ Smith and/or Norv Turner think that motivational tactics like this actually work at the professional level. Young guys laugh at this ####. Unless the player's contract is heavy on performance incentives, there is really no personal impact to benching a guy short term or taking away playing time. It only hurts the rest of the team, if the other guy taking his spot is not as good. It is a very flawed approach that only works at the amateur level.

Yes I am talking about actual playing rotation. It just seems extremely foolish and ineffective to limit a highly paid, talented resource as part of some psychological ploy if that's what's actually occurring here. Is standing in the corner really going to make Matthews less likely to fumble? A slightly less ineffective ploy would be to punish the RB coach or the HC.It's not clear that AJ Smith or Norv Turner have anything to do with what gets posted at Chargers.com.Edit: If you're talking about the actual playing rotation rather than the posted depth chart, then never mind. A good coach will know how this stuff affects a player psychologically, but that may not be Norv Turner's strength, and it's almost certainly not AJ Smith's strength.I think it's funny that in this day and age, old timers like AJ Smith and/or Norv Turner think that motivational tactics like this actually work at the professional level. Young guys laugh at this ####. Unless the player's contract is heavy on performance incentives, there is really no personal impact to benching a guy short term or taking away playing time. It only hurts the rest of the team, if the other guy taking his spot is not as good. It is a very flawed approach that only works at the amateur level.
Very interesting that they doing Jackie battle the game ball last week.Couple of good articles with direction (at least for the next couple of weeks):http://www.chargers.com/news/article-1/Turner-Reveals-Plan-for-Mathews-Battle/5b9bfa39-98c6-43dd-9de3-03949e8a726ehttp://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/oct/01/chargers-easing-ryan-mathews-action/
