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Chargers To Los Angeles: The Foul Deed Is Done! (1 Viewer)
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msommer
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I can see the reluctance to be a tenant. But economically being a partner would seem like a fantastic deal.
Upkeep/maintenance increases but likely does not double so the cost side would seem like a win, the two things he gives up is complete control (needing to deal with a partner to decide any changes) and booking any non football events in the football season.
Is there much of the latter going on?
Upkeep/maintenance increases but likely does not double so the cost side would seem like a win, the two things he gives up is complete control (needing to deal with a partner to decide any changes) and booking any non football events in the football season.
Is there much of the latter going on?
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
The Chargers stadium situation still seems like by far the easiest to get out of and the transition from SD to L.A. seems like the easiest and most natural.
There also doesn't seem to be much wailing or gnashing of teeth by Chargers fans, at least not here. Maybe because it's offseason, maybe because this has been in the realm of possibility so long.
It seems to me that there is a real possibility that the Chargers could become the no. 2 team in L.A., kind of like the old Clippers, they could get drowned out while the nostalgia for the Rams dominates. It is a great and valuable thing to be beloved and the only game in town, which they will be forever losing. It's too bad they can never work out a stadium deal in SD, they have certainly had enough time.
There also doesn't seem to be much wailing or gnashing of teeth by Chargers fans, at least not here. Maybe because it's offseason, maybe because this has been in the realm of possibility so long.
It seems to me that there is a real possibility that the Chargers could become the no. 2 team in L.A., kind of like the old Clippers, they could get drowned out while the nostalgia for the Rams dominates. It is a great and valuable thing to be beloved and the only game in town, which they will be forever losing. It's too bad they can never work out a stadium deal in SD, they have certainly had enough time.
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jonessed
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It's farther. With traffic, probably 2 hours from North County and 3 from San Diego.
They are going to need a lot of new fans to fill the stadium.
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Chadstroma
Footballguy
He is PUSHING to partner with the Raiders in Carson. Apparently he will even push against the drive to get him and Kroenke together to the point it pushes everything back a year which no one wants.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Yes, Inglewood is a bit further north from Carson but not a big difference. Maybe another 15-20 minutes if you are coming up from SD.
Casting Couch
Footballguy
Are we getting some news today on the future of these 3 teams from NFL owners ?
Fresh Prince of Bel Nor
Footballguy
"Existing Chargers fans" from San Diego will no longer exist once the move because official, because #### LA.
jonessed
Footballguy
I think the problem is Kroenke would own the Inglewood stadium.
He is PUSHING to partner with the Raiders in Carson. Apparently he will even push against the drive to get him and Kroenke together to the point it pushes everything back a year which no one wants.
I don't know how much Kroenke is willing to give up, but it's a very different deal for the Chargers than what they were planning in Carson.
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Rams/Chargers makes the most sense if the NFL insists on two teams, but unless Kroenke gives SD a sweet deal they are going to take it in the shorts on revenue. They can't pay for part of the stadium AND the relocation fee. There's no way. If they want a partnership in Inglewood they are going to have to come up with a lot of cash they don't have. Again, Kroenke or the NFL is going to have to cut them a good deal.
It seems strange to take the Chargers out of San Diego and put them with the Rams in LA. It's not easy to get around Southern California. They are going to lose a lot of the San Diego fanbase and I don't think they are going to be able to garner good support for two teams in LA. I understand the draw of the LA market, but I'm just not seeing how the Chargers come out ahead in this.
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massraider
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No one knows. This is why the good lord created Twitter.
Everyone says these meetings are when things get decided.
massraider
Footballguy
Report: L.A. committee recommends Carson over Inglewood
Posted by Darin Gantt on January 12, 2016, 1:06 PM EST
[SIZE=1em]The full ownership might decide to go a different route.[/SIZE]But the NFL’s Los Angeles committee has spoken, and they prefer Carson to Inglewood.
According to Sports Business Daily, the league’s six-owner committee on L.A. Opportunities has recommended the Carson project which to this point has been presented as a Chargers-Raiders partnership, instead of the Rams-backed Inglewood site.
According to the report, it’s unclear if the lean toward Carson is the same as a preference for the Chargers and possibly Raiders, as the notion of Chargers-Rams pairing there remains possible.
But frankly, it’s the owners, so anything’s still possible when you put 32 very rich and powerful people who aren’t used to hearing “No ” in a room together.
The Carson project was presented by Disney CEO Bob Iger, who was recruited to the effort by committee member and Panthers owner Jerry Richardson.
The other committee members are Steelers owner Art Rooney, Giants owner John Mara, Chiefs owner Clark Hunt, Patriots owner Robert Kraft and Texans owner Bob McNair.
It’s unclear if the recommendation was unanimous. It will take 24 votes to approve any relocation, and this is clearly still a very fluid situation.
Posted by Darin Gantt on January 12, 2016, 1:06 PM EST
[SIZE=1em]The full ownership might decide to go a different route.[/SIZE]But the NFL’s Los Angeles committee has spoken, and they prefer Carson to Inglewood.
According to Sports Business Daily, the league’s six-owner committee on L.A. Opportunities has recommended the Carson project which to this point has been presented as a Chargers-Raiders partnership, instead of the Rams-backed Inglewood site.
According to the report, it’s unclear if the lean toward Carson is the same as a preference for the Chargers and possibly Raiders, as the notion of Chargers-Rams pairing there remains possible.
But frankly, it’s the owners, so anything’s still possible when you put 32 very rich and powerful people who aren’t used to hearing “No ” in a room together.
The Carson project was presented by Disney CEO Bob Iger, who was recruited to the effort by committee member and Panthers owner Jerry Richardson.
The other committee members are Steelers owner Art Rooney, Giants owner John Mara, Chiefs owner Clark Hunt, Patriots owner Robert Kraft and Texans owner Bob McNair.
It’s unclear if the recommendation was unanimous. It will take 24 votes to approve any relocation, and this is clearly still a very fluid situation.
massraider
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Two guys that know more than me:
lbert Breer @AlbertBreer 5h5 hours ago
Albert Breer Retweeted Michael Silver
Me too ... This has been the most likely conclusion for a few months now. It's up to the owners to broker it now.
Albert Breer added,
Michael Silver @MikeSilverAs owners meet in Houston to decide LA, I remain convinced that Rams & Chargers to Inglewood is most likely solution. Raiders would stay.
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lbert Breer @AlbertBreer 5h5 hours ago
Albert Breer Retweeted Michael Silver
Me too ... This has been the most likely conclusion for a few months now. It's up to the owners to broker it now.
Albert Breer added,
Michael Silver @MikeSilverAs owners meet in Houston to decide LA, I remain convinced that Rams & Chargers to Inglewood is most likely solution. Raiders would stay.
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RaiderBones
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Jason Cole @JasonColeBR 57s58 seconds ago
#NFL LA comm recommends Carson site 5-1. Lone exception: #Chiefs owner Clark Hunt, who said should 1 team or none #Rams #Chargers #Raiders
massraider
Footballguy
I dunno what that means, Hunt said only one team per stadium?
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
So what does that mean?
Rams and Chargers in Carson? A hyrbid?
Rams and Chargers in Carson? A hyrbid?
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
It's weird, maybe those owners are jealous and don't want Kroenke having the L.A. football to himself, stadium and everything...
Tau837
Footballguy
RaiderBones
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
Well, if that's the case, I would say Mr. Hunt is alone in that boat, at least among NFL owners.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Makes sense....getting the Rams out of St. Louis probably helps out his Kansas City Chiefs.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
I do remember reading that if the Rams ended up losing the LA sweepstakes that Kroenke will still build a stadium. It wasn't really clear as to why but I found that interesting. 
Quez
Footballguy
TV markets is where the $$$ is. Oak. & SD don't want Kroenke to come in and take a big piece of the pie.
If the owners are smart, they are going to use this as leverage until SD, Stl., or another city build them a stadium.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
2 teams to la. One to london??
Maik Jeaunz
Footballguy
I don't understand how they can have 2 division rivals share one stadium. seems...wrong. like Superman & Lex Luthor sharing a 1 bedroom apartment.
RaiderBones
Footballguy
One team will go to the NFC. Either team Chargers or Raiders said both are willing to change conferences.
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Quez
Footballguy
They better make sure to pat down fans for Sharpies. The bathrooms will have more graffeti than a middle school.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Makes more sense to me to move the Chargers. The Raider vs Chiefs/Broncos is much more intense rivalry than Charger vs Chiefs/Broncos but all I have heard was moving the Raiders out. Likely switching Raiders and Rams actually.
Autumn Wind
Footballguy
A few tweets circulating that said Kroenke warned the other owners against "crossing him" on the L.A. vote.
Also, in the unlikely event the Raiders and Chargers get the nod I can't see the Raiders moving to the NFC. Raiders/49ers twice a year would result in multiple fan homicides.
Also, in the unlikely event the Raiders and Chargers get the nod I can't see the Raiders moving to the NFC. Raiders/49ers twice a year would result in multiple fan homicides.
Autumn Wind
Footballguy
If I'm Mark Davis, I go scorched earth on the NFL and Goodell unless the Raiders get major concessions to miss out on L.A.
dirtyjay
Footballguy
Bucky86
Footballguy
dirtyjay
Footballguy
His father should have never moved them in the first place, then moved them again.
dirtyjay
Footballguy
Not could, he is taking them on, just this time it is happening behind closed doors and not in court.
Money always wins.
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Negotiating how much money they are going give Mark Davis once he cuts a deal with Oakland for the land to build a stadium.
Bucky86
Footballguy
Sam Farmer @LATimesfarmer 2m
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First round of votes completed. Rams/TBD in Inglewood gets more votes than Raiders/Chargers in Carson. Nobody at required 24 yet.
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First round of votes completed. Rams/TBD in Inglewood gets more votes than Raiders/Chargers in Carson. Nobody at required 24 yet.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Why do you keep posting this in multiple threads when clearly it is not done? Poor form, dude.
dirtyjay
Footballguy
jonessed
Footballguy
Kroenke has the money to build his own stadium. They aren't going to put Rams/Raiders there so it must be Rams/Chargers. I still don't see how the Chargers can win in that deal though. They will be playing second fiddle in someone else's stadium.dirtyjay said:
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