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Chicago Bears 2012 Offseason Thread (1 Viewer)
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There is no evidence to suggest that any gm has turned down or avoided the bears job because of lovie. No gm is on the record (or even speculated) to have said that they would not interview with chicago. Who that is a "top gm" has even signed.elsewhere? The guy from green bay was a prime target and took the first offer he saw. Beyond that, no "top" guy has been taken.'Max Power said:At this point its looking like their commitment to Lovie is doing more harm than good. Thanks to their stance with Lovie we could be missing out on a top of the line GM and OC. Just doesn't seem worth it.So what do you propose the Bears do about this? This is not of their doing. There is nothing they did wrong here and nothing they can do.'DoubleG said:Typical Bears disaster. So they are looking for a "Passing Coordinator" (whatever the heck that is) to work under an O.C. who might leave to be a head coach in a week.BRILLIANT!
I wish there was a "punch myself in the face repeatedly" emoticon.
Why couldn't my parents have moved to North Dakota before I was born so I wouldn't give a #### about football?!?
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RBM
Footballguy
Ooof....heard he was the favorite.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Guess he didn't feel the same way.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Ruskey interviewed today. 
All schtick aside, why are the Bears interviewing Ruskell? Do they really believe he is a viable candidate and on the same level as the other guys they are interviewing? Why not just keep Angelo if they are considering hiring Ruskell? He's the one who brought him in and now they're considering promoting him.
All schtick aside, why are the Bears interviewing Ruskell? Do they really believe he is a viable candidate and on the same level as the other guys they are interviewing? Why not just keep Angelo if they are considering hiring Ruskell? He's the one who brought him in and now they're considering promoting him.
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flapgreen
Footballguy
Ross or Raye would work fine. I guess Snead slept with Ted's boyfriend. He hasn't even been mentioned.
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Are you really that dumb? Heard of a draft or free agency? Also, I am positive the new gm will get to pick his coach if Lovie is not extend ed when his contract ends. Angelo did the same thingWhat will the GM's role be? The coaching staff and management are already in place. If they were going to get rid of Ruskell, they would have already. Is he going to be a puppet? You would have to be crazy to take that job if you're not given the control a normal GM would have.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Sup bro?Are you really that dumb? Heard of a draft or free agency? Also, I am positive the new gm will get to pick his coach if Lovie is not extend ed when his contract ends. Angelo did the same thingWhat will the GM's role be? The coaching staff and management are already in place. If they were going to get rid of Ruskell, they would have already. Is he going to be a puppet? You would have to be crazy to take that job if you're not given the control a normal GM would have.
They spent several said "vetting" him...maybe they didn't like him?
flapgreen
Footballguy
what
flapgreen
Footballguy
Still reading Emery is the favorite from the beat writers, but not sure how much of that is just speculation. As long as Ruskell doesn't get it, I'll be happy. Licht looks like he should be at the bottom of the list too. My pick would still be Ross. It would be great to get a new up and comer in the league, but it doesn't appear he will get it. It's not the Bears way of thinking.
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flapgreen
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I'll admit I don't know much about most of these candidates, except Ruskell and Ross. Here's a few comments from Dickerson and Wright, the two beat writers I follow closest.
Dickerson and Wright @ESPNChiBears 6
So a quick recap: Jason Licht -talented personnel evaluator, seen as rising star in PHI before being pushed out, went to ARI, never signed. .never signed contract with ARI, went to NE. One negative, has never had to make a true decision that stuck to him.
Jimmy Raye: Part of a solid org. (SD), but ever since Buddy Nix left in 2007, Raye assumed more responsibility and SD has declined.
Marc Ross: Some feel not the hardest worker, others say he's so intelligent he processes info quickly & moves on. Two sides to every story.
Tim Ruskell: Only candidate with prior GM experience.
Phil Emery: NFL scouts call him a "grinder", the "hardest working guy in the room", "unflappable". Worked for Bears as area scout (98-04).
Dickerson and Wright @ESPNChiBears
“@nbcgeoffglick: just a guess, but my $ on Ruskell or Emery”-- Emery just seems like kind of person Bears would hire. Ruskell...no comment!
Dickerson and Wright @ESPNChiBears 6
So a quick recap: Jason Licht -talented personnel evaluator, seen as rising star in PHI before being pushed out, went to ARI, never signed. .never signed contract with ARI, went to NE. One negative, has never had to make a true decision that stuck to him.
Jimmy Raye: Part of a solid org. (SD), but ever since Buddy Nix left in 2007, Raye assumed more responsibility and SD has declined.
Marc Ross: Some feel not the hardest worker, others say he's so intelligent he processes info quickly & moves on. Two sides to every story.
Tim Ruskell: Only candidate with prior GM experience.
Phil Emery: NFL scouts call him a "grinder", the "hardest working guy in the room", "unflappable". Worked for Bears as area scout (98-04).
Dickerson and Wright @ESPNChiBears
“@nbcgeoffglick: just a guess, but my $ on Ruskell or Emery”-- Emery just seems like kind of person Bears would hire. Ruskell...no comment!
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flapgreen
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Everything I'm reading from the beat writers is pointing the other way, but there's no way of knowing for sure. Only my personal opinion but I think the Bears are much less likely to hire a younger guy. It's never been how they do things. I hope I'm wrong. I'd love to have Ross or Raye in here, and I think they are the best two candidates.
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flapgreen
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Ok. I didn't understand what that statement meant.
flapgreen
Footballguy
I have no idea how involved he was in the draft while he was a scout in Chicago, but the drafts during that time left a lot to be desired. Cade Mcnown, David Terrel, Curtis Enis and Rex were all taken in the first round. That's not a very good track record on the offensive side of the ball. I haven't looked into his drafts with other teams since then, but those picks were atrocious. I think Ross is the guy, but again I don't think he has much of a chance. Just my opinion.'D.J. said:
I read he was involved with a lot of the atlanta drafts (i heard he was integral in picking roddy white) he also was involved with picking matt ryan, dwayne bowe, and eric berry.
Bears are waffling.
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
I'll be glad when you stop hating on me by posting vulgar comments on my profile. It's just a message board Flap
flapgreen
Footballguy
Bro, I've been trying to post compliments on your profile for a while now, but it won't let me. What's the deal? Do you block me? I didn't think it ever worked.
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
This is your last comment "I'd rather hang out with Jerry Sandusky" You clearly need to get a clue...it's a message board. Step away from the rivalries and get a life.
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
I'm more than calm, but i'm also mature and don't act like a 12 year old because i'm behind a computer.In Bear news, i'm happy with the GM process thus far. Curious how the passing coordinator will turn out.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Benson_will_ruin_the_thread can dish it out, but he can't take it. benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
flapgreen
Footballguy
Thank you?
SmoovySmoov
The Way of the Samurai
You guys make my mother-in-law seem tolerable.
flapgreen
Footballguy
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-bears-job-could-be-tough-sell-for-miamis-fisch-20120125,0,3929025.story
candidate scoffs at the idea of coming to the Bears. How can so many coaches turn down the chance to coach Jay Cutler and the Bears? Most people already know the reasons, including the guys who have decided to take the exact same job with worse teams.
Another potential "passing coordinator"Bears' job could be tough sell for Miami's Fisch
MOBILE, Ala. -- It might be difficult for the Chicago Bears to lure Jedd Fisch to Chicago from South Beach, and it has nothing to do with the weather.
Fisch, now the offensive coordinator at the University of Miami, is high on the Bears' wish list for quarterbacks coach/passing game coordinator. But several coaches familiar with Fisch said the 36-year-old has no desire to leave Miami at this time.
Part of Fisch's reservations, according to the coaches, has to do with the title of "passing game coordinator" and the duties that come with it. New offensive coordinator Mike Tice will call the plays in a revamped offense expected to be more run-oriented.
One source said Fisch also might not want to uproot his family after his wife gave birth to their second daughter two years ago.
That's not to say the Bears won't make a run at Fisch after his recruiting season ends Feb.1. Fisch did not respond to multiple messages left by the Tribune.
Fisch was the receivers coach in Denver when Jay Cutler played there, and the Bears would like to hire someone Cutler would be comfortable working alongside. Fisch interviewed to be the Bears' quarterbacks coach in 2007, but Pep Hamilton got the job.
The Bears interviewed former Tampa Bay offensive coordinator Greg Olson for their opening, but Olson was named the quarterbacks coach in Jacksonville. Tice wanted to add former Jaguars offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter but Koetter was hired for the same position in Atlanta, And Titans quarterbacks coach/passing game coordinator Dowell Loggains had a strong desire to come work with Cutler until Tennessee denied the Bears' permission to interview him
The Bears continue to monitor the status of Colts offensive coordinator Clyde Christensen, who could remain in Indianapolis, depending on the wishes of newly named head coach Chuck Pagano. Christensen and Lovie Smith were on the same Buccaneers' staff.
Ex-Seahawks offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates, Cutler's quarterbacks coach in Denver, will not be considered for the position.
vxmcclure@tribune.com
candidate scoffs at the idea of coming to the Bears. How can so many coaches turn down the chance to coach Jay Cutler and the Bears? Most people already know the reasons, including the guys who have decided to take the exact same job with worse teams.
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flapgreen
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Tice has Webb's back in a recent interview, saying he's the guy at LT.
"And then you have an entire offseason (with) a chance to make him better there. He is a very good run blocker. Do I think he is a guy moving forward? Yes, I do unless some miracle happens and an elite first-round draft pick that we couldn't pass up fell in our lap, which I doubt. Yeah, he's our guy moving forward."
"And then you have an entire offseason (with) a chance to make him better there. He is a very good run blocker. Do I think he is a guy moving forward? Yes, I do unless some miracle happens and an elite first-round draft pick that we couldn't pass up fell in our lap, which I doubt. Yeah, he's our guy moving forward."
RBM
Footballguy
Oh jeez. I really want to see Williams given one more shot to at least compete there. Maybe with his success at guard and some time with Tice a light went on....I dunno....ANYTHING BUT FREAKIN WEBBTice has Webb's back in a recent interview, saying he's the guy at LT.
