Chiefs at Chargers (1 Viewer)

[death of the cool]

1 carry and out....Is there a rule in KC or something?

 

[jim k]

Jeezus cripes this game is garbage.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Serious question, couldn't Norv still have challenged that? The replay guy decided not to even review it, he clearly didn't know the rule about the wrist/forearm. If the ref (who presumably knows the rule) sees it he would likely rule him down.

 

[fred_1_15301]

That was a terrible throw

 

[elbowrm]

El Oh El

 

[prgromek]

Succop is living up to his name

 

[flapgreen]

Perfect!

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

kc turning it over on downs

 

[Raider Nation]

Wow. He's a fantastic kicker. Weird.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

matthews limping off...

What else is new?

He's maddening.

Is the where out eat an entire Turducken during halftime_

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I forget if it was Mike Pereira or Jim Daopoulos (another former ref doing TV broadcasts now), but one of them said last week a wrist would be considered part of the hand.

I've not heard that before, but either way it was his forearm, up from the wrist.

 

[need2know]

succop

 

[jim k]

Succop clanged the upright on that fg miss.

 

[southeastjerome]

Did Mayock just make up that thing about the wrist?

Wrist is down. Hand is not down. That's how I've known the rule.

Wrist, forearm, shins, and ankles are all down.

Obviously Weddle has small wrists and big hands.

 

[flapgreen]

That was a terrible throw

Agreed. I don't know what they were talking about.

 

[GroveDiesel]

These two teams are pathetic.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

This is why I didn't understand the Chargers D love. Bad defense meets bad offense is not a recipe for success

is it getting any clearer?

still going strong

 

[dgreen]

I forget if it was Mike Pereira or Jim Daopoulos (another former ref doing TV broadcasts now), but one of them said last week a wrist would be considered part of the hand.

Wasn't that in regards to Dez Bryant's play? Maybe it is different for establishing a catch and determining down by contact? I know I've seen the wrist ruled down. Maybe the rule has changed?

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

I forget if it was Mike Pereira or Jim Daopoulos (another former ref doing TV broadcasts now), but one of them said last week a wrist would be considered part of the hand.

Yeah, something along these lines changed this year. I'm pretty sure the change was that the wrist would be considered the same as a hand, in terms of being down. I can't recall for sure, though.

 

[fantasycurse42]

After half time....your franchise back gets 1 carry.....runs over to the sidelines for the next 2 plays and punt.

Charles isn't exactly lighting the world on fire either.

He is hit by 3 guys before he is within 3 yards of the line. Pretty predictable, they bring in Jamaal and hand him the ball on 1st down. I mean even Norv can figure that pattern out.

 

[Raider Nation]

Next series:

-Mathews for 2 yards

Off to the sidelines to rest up for the 4th Q.

 

[Bruce Hammond]

This thread is just so full of happiness, hope and optimism... on both sides. LOL.

 

[Philogelos]

norv's face after that FG miss was classic

 

[GregR]

I forget if it was Mike Pereira or Jim Daopoulos (another former ref doing TV broadcasts now), but one of them said last week a wrist would be considered part of the hand.

Actually, strike that... it was Pereira and he was talking about a receiver getting a wrist down and how that counts towards fulling 2 feet down or 1 other body part when making a possession. Though... hmm. Not sure, you might be able to read out of it what I said originally.

 

[Raider Nation]

Next series:-Mathews for 2 yardsOff to the sidelines to rest up for the 4th Q.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

How does Bowe not draw calls from the refs. There are at least three calls that could have been PI not called today. he always gets murdered on the field and he never gets calls.

 

[GregR]

Ok, never mind, Ref Jim just tweeted about the play in this game:

Jim Daopoulos ‏@RefereeJimDWrist is part of the hand so review is confirmed

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Am I the only one who thinks Mathews could have run it in from the 1? Way to out smart yourself Norv.

Except that would be Battle (short yardage back) or Brown (if it was 3rd down or under 2 minutes). ####### Norv.

And Mathews was shockingly on he sideline nursing an injury.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

I forget if it was Mike Pereira or Jim Daopoulos (another former ref doing TV broadcasts now), but one of them said last week a wrist would be considered part of the hand.

I've not heard that before, but either way it was his forearm, up from the wrist.

Actually, now that I think about it... It probably should be a ground-forced-[no]fumble either way. If you are going down and the first thing that hits the ground is the ball, and it is jarred loose it would be a ground-force, no fumble. Why would it be different if the hand hits first? That should still be a ground-force, no?

 

[AllVolUT]

At least next week we'll finally get a good Thursday night matchup: Colts and Jags.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Kinda awesome to see DX back in the league. I know he'll never be able to take more than 20-30 snaps a game but the guy is a major talent.

 

[TheFootballJesus]

Can't even set up a simple screen.

 

[shadyridr]

good power by Mathews on that screen

 

[Michael Brown]

I'm NORVOUS!!!

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

At least next week we'll finally get a good Thursday night matchup: Colts and Jags.

I don't know wtf you're talking about -- I hate cutler+n and the bears, had stl d everywhere, and currently have gates and sd d.monday night football on thursday has been awesome!!

 

[joffer]

This is pathetic

 

[Raider Nation]

good power by Mathews on that screen

My dead grandmother was credited with an assist on the tackle.

 

[Chazzhawk]

I forget if it was Mike Pereira or Jim Daopoulos (another former ref doing TV broadcasts now), but one of them said last week a wrist would be considered part of the hand.

I've not heard that before, but either way it was his forearm, up from the wrist.

Actually, now that I think about it... It probably should be a ground-forced-[no]fumble either way. If you are going down and the first thing that hits the ground is the ball, and it is jarred loose it would be a ground-force, no fumble. Why would it be different if the hand hits first? That should still be a ground-force, no?

The ground can cause a fumble

 

[zandbak]

good power by Mathews on that screen

Yeah dude, most NFL backs can run through a player diving directly into their knees as soon as they catch the ball.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

I forget if it was Mike Pereira or Jim Daopoulos (another former ref doing TV broadcasts now), but one of them said last week a wrist would be considered part of the hand.

I've not heard that before, but either way it was his forearm, up from the wrist.

Hand is not considered down, a player can use his hand to catch himself and continue running, having the back of the wrist hit the ground and force a fumble is a fumble.

 

[GregR]

I forget if it was Mike Pereira or Jim Daopoulos (another former ref doing TV broadcasts now), but one of them said last week a wrist would be considered part of the hand.

I've not heard that before, but either way it was his forearm, up from the wrist.

Actually, now that I think about it... It probably should be a ground-forced-[no]fumble either way. If you are going down and the first thing that hits the ground is the ball, and it is jarred loose it would be a ground-force, no fumble. Why would it be different if the hand hits first? That should still be a ground-force, no?

"The ground can't cause a fumble" is a saying, not a rule. And a bad saying at that.The ground can certainly cause a fumble. What it can't do is cause a fumble when the contact with the ground makes you down by contact. That is, if your knee, elbow, back, etc (any body part but hands or feet) hits the ground, you're immediately down and the ball coming out because of that contact doesn't matter because the play is already dead.But if the contact with the ground does not yet make you down by contact, then it certainly can cause a fumble. If you're tackled and the first thing that hits the ground is the ball, or your hand holding the ball, you're not yet down. So if you fumble it's still a live ball.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Chargers..

Double Bowe = win game.

 

[TheFootballJesus]

good power by Mathews on that screen

My dead grandmother was credited with an assist on the tackle.

Eric Berry hitting him at the knees as soon as he turns around....

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

good power by Mathews on that screen

Yeah dude, most NFL backs can run through a player diving directly into their knees as soon as they catch the ball.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Cassel keeps escaping these sacks..

 

[Bruce Hammond]

cassel is about due for an INT.

 

[BobbyLayne]

What's more absurd - Matthews in a RBBC with Battle/Brown or Charles with 11 of the Chiefs 25 rushing attempts?

 

[Ghost Rider]

Both of these teams stink.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

That's a defenseless reciever.

 

[Chazzhawk]

Both of these teams stink.

no way the Chargers are making the playoffs ask Deion