As long as she isn’t smashed.Told my daughter to just yell, “I’m an upper middle class white girl.” She should be fine.
That's great advice. Except a large % of this population can't help it because they are darker skinned. So that doesn't really help them.Be respectful, but make it a point to never have to interact with one.
No. You got me. I don’t have my 8-year old daughter practice daily on how to explain to police officers that she is unarmed and not out to hurt them.There's a difference between telling your kids "hey, be respectful if you're ever stopped by the police" and a much longer talk explaining why you need to be very careful about a police encounter because your life might be in danger just because of the color of your skin.
Telling your kids in a couple sentences to be respectful if they are stopped by the police isn't "The Talk"
Any of you non-blacks going through this?
True. Being white, with graying hair, I am nearly invisible to the police. I can’t imagine having to deal with police side-eying you for just walking to work, picking up trash or performing any other every day activity.That's great advice. Except a large % of this population can't help it because they are darker skinned. So that doesn't really help them.
No. He's saying if your kids are white you dont have to talk to them about it because only black people have bad experiences with the popoOr are we saying that white parents don't have to do this because their kids know better since they are white?![]()
First time I got pulled over (shortly after getting my license), I didn't know what to do so I unbuckled my seatbelt and started to get out of the car for some reason. The cop drew his weapon and screamed at me to get back in the car. After that, he could tell that I was visibly shaken by the experience (we both were) and he let me go with a warning.My greatest fear is my kid being naively overly-compliant. I remember getting pulled over when I was young. I knew that he would ask for my license and registration, so as the cop was walking up, I was rooting around in my glove box for a copy of my registration. Obviously a really dumb move in hindsight, but I was just trying to be helpful. That's the kind of stuff that can get you shot. Thankfully the cop who had pulled me over simply and calmly asked me to stop what I was doing.
I’ve had mixed encounters. A female black officer pulled me over when I was 18 after I spun out in a rainstorm. Was going to give me a reckless driving ticket, but ended up making me promise to replace my tires. She was very nice.First time I got pulled over (shortly after getting my license), I didn't know what to do so I unbuckled my seatbelt and started to get out of the car for some reason. The cop drew his weapon and screamed at me to get back in the car. After that, he could tell that I was visibly shaken by the experience (we both were) and he let me go with a warning.
Don't all parents teach their kids to respect people of authority and follow their directions? Like teachers,
Yeah this is where I'm at. Taught our kids to respect all authority not specific to police. Though respect doesn't equate to automatically doing whatever they say nor does it involve dropping curse words when you disagree with their tactics.Don't all parents teach their kids to respect people of authority and follow their directions? Like teachers, police, firemen, etc.
Or are we saying that white parents don't have to do this because their kids know better since they are white?![]()
Not sure what's so funny. Would you prefer white people not care how bad minorities have it?I love when white people tell others how bad minorities have it.![]()
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No. I prefer you don't act like you know what minorities go through. We get it. You feel bad about slavery and all that other stuff. But you're coming off like you're trying too hard. Like that 40 year old chick with pink streaks in her hair.Not sure what's so funny. Would you prefer white people not care how bad minorities have it?
Entitled to your opinion. And one of the ####tiest replies I've read on this site (and that's saying a lot). Have a good day.No. I prefer you don't act like you know what minorities go through. We get it. You feel bad about slavery and all that other stuff. But you're coming off like you're trying too hard. Like that 40 year old chick with pink streaks in her hair.
Whenever I see white people getting upset about how white people treat minorities, I find that a little humorous.
You asked him for his opinion, based on his response I'd assume he is a minority. His opinion doesn't line up with yours, so your response is to insult him.Entitled to your opinion. And one of the ####tiest replies I've read on this site (and that's saying a lot). Have a good day.
Sounds like something a racist would say to a minority. Just because I don't have the same opinion of a white person, my opinion is crappy?Entitled to your opinion. And one of the ####tiest replies I've read on this site (and that's saying a lot). Have a good day.
What bothers me most is that I was trying to be funny about my response back to him. And he called it ####ty. It would be one thing to talk bad about my religion, my family or my heritage. But to crap on my jokes?!? That cuts deep. He definitely crossed a line, there.You asked him for his opinion, based on his response I'd assume he is a minority. His opinion doesn't line up with yours, so your response is to insult him.
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I took it for what it was - a light friendly reply with an opinion layered in.What bothers me most is that I was trying to be funny about my response back to him. And he called it ####ty. It would be one thing to talk bad about my religion, my family or my heritage. But to crap on my jokes?!? That cuts deep. He definitely crossed a line, there.
I got pulled over when I was not so young. (40ish?) I knew as soon as he pulled out behind me that it was because- due to an unfortunate encounter between ice and the air dam mounted plate the past winter- my front plate was under my passenger seat. I pulled over , got my license and regi handy...aaaand ...reached around the back of the passenger seat for the plate...bigbottom said:My greatest fear is my kid being naively overly-compliant. I remember getting pulled over when I was young. I knew that he would ask for my license and registration, so as the cop was walking up, I was rooting around in my glove box for a copy of my registration. Obviously a really dumb move in hindsight, but I was just trying to be helpful. That's the kind of stuff that can get you shot. Thankfully the cop who had pulled me over simply and calmly asked me to stop what I was doing.
I love Russell Crowe in that movie.AM I BEING DETAINED?!?
One could argue the police might be hair triggered because people don't feel the need to comply anymore. And with an officer being shot and killed every 5th day on average, it can make a police officer a little worried when he asks someone to take their hands out of their pockets and the person refuses.No, but I knew several of the police officers. Part of this is generational and geographic. Black kids born before about 1980 in the South, if a parent didn't explain "the way things are" in a number of different areas of life, they were risking getting a phone call about a dead kid. White boys had a pretty different experience. White girls got a similar (though not the same) discussion about how to protect themselves.
Nowadays, if you don't discuss this sort of thing with your kids with how militarized and hair-trigger the police are, no matter your race, sex, gender, whatever, you're risking a lot.
I love it when civilians try to tell us how bad police have it.One could argue the police might be hair triggered because people don't feel the need to comply anymore. And with an officer being shot and killed every 5th day on average, it can make a police officer a little worried when he asks someone to take their hands out of their pockets and the person refuses.
I actually graduated from the police academy and was going through the process of trying to get hired by a department when I decided to change careers.I love it when civilians try to tell us how bad police have it.![]()
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Regardless of the reason, it's an existing condition about which one should caution children.One could argue the police might be hair triggered because people don't feel the need to comply anymore. And with an officer being shot and killed every 5th day on average, it can make a police officer a little worried when he asks someone to take their hands out of their pockets and the person refuses.
I believe you're thinking of "Gladiator" where he said "Are you not entertained?"I love Russell Crowe in that movie.![]()
Also seems like common sense to just do what the police ask you to do.Cowboysfan8 said:Seems like common sense to me to have this discussion
EYLive said:And guess what... even when black men comply with officers... SOME STILL GET SHOT.
THERE ARE VIDEOS OF CALM BLACK MEN GETTING SHOT TO DEATH BY POLICE.
Henry Ford said:Didn't a group of officers recently wake up a sleeping guy in a car to put 24 bullets in him or something?
You quoted eylive and posted about the dude getting shot 24 times. If you weren't implying that he was complying with the police but got shot anyway....24 times....why did you post that while quoting him?Did you read the post? I had a vague recollection of hearing that some police unloaded into a car that a guy was sleeping in. Then I looked into it because he said he'd found it was taco bell. And someone else said he was in the drive through. Then someone posted he had a gun in his lap.
I looked it up. I didn't include it in the first post because I didn't have that information off the top of my head.
Just for future reference, is there a particular number of question marks I need to use to indicate that I’m asking another poster a question?You quoted eylive and posted about the dude getting shot 24 times. If you weren't implying that he was complying with the police but got shot anyway....24 times....why did you post that while quoting him?
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Haha! Good oneJust for future reference, is there a particular number of question marks I need to use to indicate that I’m asking another poster a question?