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He would have to get 150 targets. A healthy Gronk is getting 120 and White/Lewis is getting 120. Cooks would have to be a bust, because the next guy in line is probably only getting 70-80 targets. Definitely not impossible, but I would think Cooks is more likely to be the one seeing the 150 targets.
And Burkhead is being criminally underrated. He's easily a better receiver than White and Lewis.Nero said:
I mentioned this as an option over the summer. Not sure if they plan on bringing him back as a designated IR return player.
So their WRs are
I have cooks in one league. Hogan in the other. Wouldn't it be crazy if Hogan outscores cooks for the season?
I would not be surprised at all. Unless the pats treat cooks like Randy moss where they game plan to feature him every week, he will be an exciting role player for the team. I see no reason why cooks and hogan both can't have 1000 td seasons and each have bw 7-10 tds. I think Brady has a chance at over 40 tds this year.
12 TD's from RB's? Off the top I am going to guess that is high. In the TB/BB era, the most receiving TD's they've had from RB's has been 6.
While Brady did have a crap game, this was more on Hogan IMHO. Too interested in whining for flags instead of battling for balls.CabinFever said:
8 opportunities - 5 targets and 3 carries.CabinFever said:
The reported chemistry between Brady and Hogan was not evident tonight. They were off on seemingly everything. The bright spot was that Hogan did get 5 targets which is only 1 less than Gronk and 2 less than Cooks and Amendola. He also had 3 rushes so he was heavily involved. If you ask me though, it looks like their plan was/is to replace Edelman with Amendola. Thats a plan thats sure to fail long term though as no way he stays healthy with that many targets. But they may need him to because that seems to make their offense much better.
Wouldn't mind getting him some runs if they also got him some catches. I wish they could play him in the slot because it seems like whomever is playing in the slot is going to get a lot of looks.
Unless Brady is now Peyton Manning of 2015.
You guys should've been worried about the Dola. But Hogan did dominate snaps, I think.
He played 85% of snaps last year. His role is that of what Brandon Lafells was a few years back. He'll have some nice weeks but his stats will be reminiscent to that of last year and he will be high volatility.
I know, but personally I wasn't sure he was going to get those snaps now that Cooks is there. I thought it might be Cooks all the time and then Dola/Hogan splitting. But yeah, I agree with you - he's going to be hard to predict week-to-week. I only have him in the subscriber contest and the only reason I took him was because Amendola wasn't an option.
Where did you get snap counts so quickly? I've always relied on footballoutsiders, but they take a couple days to release that data.
I was shocked last night that people were starting him. He has no talent at all and was about 6th on the patriots list. Injuries might give him a bit of opportunity now but he's a total lottery pick. Just because he's white and plays on the pats doesn't mean he's the next welker/edelman.
Tweet from some pats reporterI know, but personally I wasn't sure he was going to get those snaps now that Cooks is there. I thought it might be Cooks all the time and then Dola/Hogan splitting. But yeah, I agree with you - he's going to be hard to predict week-to-week. I only have him in the subscriber contest and the only reason I took him was because Amendola wasn't an option.
Where did you get snap counts so quickly? I've always relied on footballoutsiders, but they take a couple days to release that data.
I remember watching this game and being stunned. (Jets fan here.) Rex rushed three all game, flooded the underneath middle, and won the game. Other teams have tried to emulate that, but few have the defensive backfield the Jets did back then. It's really not a bad sign for Hogan's fantasy future that he and Brady had subpar games last night; it was a good game plan executed by a very, very good team with a very, very good defensive backfield.
He definitely wasn't getting much separation deep, but I thought he was open a couple times on the shallow crossing routes, Brady just never looked his way.
The guy who designed a crossing route did so because he had a receiver who couldn't get open.
Yeah I was pretty bullish on Hogan and I've tempered my expectations. Still a hold in my opinion. Amendola may miss time.
It's only one game...you can't really make a decision on him until week 3-4...I still think he's going to have a monster year
Amendola missing time won't help Hogan. It probably hurts him. Amendola is the closest thing to Edelman that the Patriots have left, and Hogan is probably the farthest. Hogan made some good plays last year down the field, but not on the short routes. Edelman underneath attracting attention of the defense opened things up for Hogan on the long pass plays.
When Edelman went down I was thinking someone out of the trio of Lewis, White and Burkhead would fill that role. I was surprised by the lack of creativity in using those guys as receivers last night. They caught passes, but seemed to be used out of traditional RB formations. Was thinking White/Lewis/Burkhead would line up at receiver at times. Maybe they did and I missed it.
I'm not an expert by any means; but fwiw, I think running backs line up out wide to take advantage of linebackers not cornerbacks.
