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Chuck Muncie has died (1 Viewer)

He played just before I began to watch NFL games regularly. I do not think he was headed to a Hall of Fame career. It was more like he was on a Ricky Watters, Shaun Alexander type of path. He did not even get that far due to cocaine use.

He was certainly one of the best runners to wear goggles. Eric Dickerson and Joe Washington were two others.

 
I picture him in a Saints uniform when I hear his name. Career was pretty much split in half though between NO and SD.

RIP Chuck.

 
Raider Nation said:
Mentos said:
He was certainly one of the best runners to wear goggles. Eric Dickerson and Joe Washington were two others.
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:thumbup: ED and Joe wore goggles. Chuck straight up wore nerdy Clark Kent glasses.
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He never wore goggles? I thought he did sometimes. Is it possible that his vision was poor enough that he had eyeglasses on the bench and put them on while on the sideline? You could be right though.

On a rainy day I will look at some old highlight films.

 
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Raider Nation said:
Every picture of him in action shows him wearing regular glasses
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That is kind of weird, though. Wouldn't you agree? Eyeglasses while playing football at the RB position? My interest is piqued enough now to watch one of my old highlight films with Chargers action in it .
 
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Warhogs said:
One of my favorite Chargers back in the day.
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x2. Loved Muncie. He was the Power in that finesse offense. I had this card:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5ipB6Hs-msA/SS7XeiPWVCI/AAAAAAAAAWs/1blW23GeqbM/s320/1981_0105.jpg

Remember these SI's arriving in the mail:

http://www.lobshots.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/SI_Chargers_Chuck_Muncie83.jpg

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/1981/0112_large.jpg
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I currently have that card. I loved the 1981 set. A local card shop circa 1989 had a bunch of 1981 packs for sale and I bought a lot of them. In previous years I had bought 1981 cards at flea markets and what not. I guess Muncie did wear regular glasses in games. That is bizarre.

 
Mentos said:
Raider Nation said:
Mentos said:
He was certainly one of the best runners to wear goggles. Eric Dickerson and Joe Washington were two others.
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:thumbup: ED and Joe wore goggles. Chuck straight up wore nerdy Clark Kent glasses.
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He never wore goggles? I thought he did sometimes. Is it possible that his vision was poor enough that he had eyeglasses on the bench and put them on while on the sideline?You could be right though.

On a rainy day I will look at some old highlight films.
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he absolutely did wear goggles. http://goldenrankings.com/ngolden41/ChuckMuncieChargers.jpgMuncie was one of the first nonSteelers I really liked watching when I was a little kid.

edit for another goggle picture: http://mit.zenfs.com/217/2011/11/Chuck-Muncie.jpg

 
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AhrnCityPahnder said:
Mentos said:
Raider Nation said:
Mentos said:
He was certainly one of the best runners to wear goggles. Eric Dickerson and Joe Washington were two others.
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:thumbup: ED and Joe wore goggles. Chuck straight up wore nerdy Clark Kent glasses.
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He never wore goggles? I thought he did sometimes. Is it possible that his vision was poor enough that he had eyeglasses on the bench and put them on while on the sideline?You could be right though.

On a rainy day I will look at some old highlight films.
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he absolutely did wear goggles. http://goldenrankings.com/ngolden41/ChuckMuncieChargers.jpgMuncie was one of the first nonSteelers I really liked watching when I was a little kid.

edit for another goggle picture: http://mit.zenfs.com/217/2011/11/Chuck-Muncie.jpg
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Thanks for posting. What I am seeing in those photos are goggles covering his eyes.
 
Go Bears.

Cal trivia: In 1975, with Muncie at tailback, Cal led the nation in offense with 5044 yards: 2522 passing, 2522 rushing. If the Heisman were not the worst award in sports, Muncie would have won it that year; he had 1852 yards from scrimmage and 15 TDs with a 6.4 ypc average; the winner that year was Archie Griffin, who had 1620 yfs, 4TDs, 5.5 ypc (but Griffin played for Ohio State).

 
For what it's worth ... I got pretty ramped up before a MNF game one day and wrote this post in FFA:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=667531&hl=raiders

Maybe it should have been in SP but then I think of this place as being for current FF topics.

I said this about Muncie:

- Chuck Muncie ran for 120+ yards and a TD, this was one of the most talented RBs to play the game between 1970-1990 and the sad thing was he got hooked on coke and never lived up to his potential. He cost the Saints the game here with a late 4th quarter fumble and you can see how he failed to protect the ball, terrible.

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- The 1980 Saints would go 1-15. Chandler and Muncie would go to the Chargers to play with Air Coryell and Fouts, again, these were modern offensive players. Galbraith would go to MIN where was a stalwart for that team and Manning would be ignominiously shipped off to Houston for a washed up tackle. Basically, in a football sense, tragic.

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The Raiders did a scoop and run on Muncie's fumble, the defender hits the ground AND THEN even though being down he FORWARD LATERALS to another defender (Hendricks I think) who just keeps running another 25 yards or so to the Saints' 14. No one cares and of course no replay red flags back then.
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Anyone who wants to see live game action of Muncie in what was then the biggest game in Saints history can go here:

https://www.youtube....&feature=relmfu

https://www.youtube....h?v=MssGYM--_LQ

http://www.pro-footb...97912030nor.htm


This game was a pure example of Muncie's highs and lows:

  • Awesome talent. - it wasn't in this game, but in either 1978 or 1979, against the Falcons in another then-huge game, Muncie had one of the greatest singles runs I have ever seen. It was a lot like Barry Sander's famous karate kick run that is popular here and available on youtube, except of course Muncie's is not and Muncie ran all the way for a long brilliant score. Anyway, Muncie basically highstepped his foot right into a perfectly placed, waiting, standing but crouched Falcons DB. Literally stepped right on his chest and just kept on going.
  • In that Raiders game even though perhaps the play should have been called back Muncie was carrying the ball very, very loose. He did that all the time, totally reckless with the ball and he would not take instruction. He was a big reason they were winning that game and a big reason they lost it.
  • Terrible personal flaws - cocaine was rampant in society in 1979-80. Muncie left so much behind off the field and yet he did so much. Apparently he slept through team meetings and film sessions regularly, missed team flights, late to practice, made up stories about his whereabouts, you name it. Archie Manning says he coached him up on Sunday mornings and in-game, told him where to line up on almost every play. Eventually a brilliant Saints offense would be torn apart as basically there was a drug ring in the locker room, it all fell apart as the franchise imploded and would not recover fully for 3 decades

Muncie had it all, truly a HOF quality physical talent who showed that without brains, soul and discipline no player can ever be truly Great.

 
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Re: Barry Sanders' karate kick run

What run was that? Who was it against?

I know Billy Sims was involved in such a play. It came against Houston. So did each of these guys do it?

 
Mentos said:
Re: Barry Sanders' karate kick runWhat run was that? Who was it against?I know Billy Sims was involved in such a play. It came against Houston. So did each of these guys do it?
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Sorry, maybe it was Sims. Just one famous karate kick run by a Detroit Lion RB to my knowledge.

There's a thread on it here somewhere.

 
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