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[freeannyong]

Damn morodor... Level 30 queen. Beast mode

 

[freeannyong]

Sounds like they can sandbox now. BUT no cc troops or traps. So not all that useful

 

[beer 30]

Anybody got a decent th9 base with the new wind whisperer incorporated? I'm winging it right now for the war on Saturday but if you masters have a good layout let me know, I'd like to take a look.

 

[culdeus]

The aggro range sure seems a lot shorter than 6 tiles to me. This is going to make this game damn near impossible at the high levels till we get this figured out.

 

[culdeus]

Anybody got a decent th9 base with the new wind whisperer incorporated? I'm winging it right now for the war on Saturday but if you masters have a good layout let me know, I'd like to take a look.

Nobody has a clue what to do with it. Someone at reddit surely will come along with a 50,000 word post on how to optimally place it soon.

 

[culdeus]

HOLD ALL WAR ATTACKS INVOLVING WIZARDS

MAJOR GLITCH REPORTED

 

[beer 30]

Anybody got a decent th9 base with the new wind whisperer incorporated? I'm winging it right now for the war on Saturday but if you masters have a good layout let me know, I'd like to take a look.

Nobody has a clue what to do with it. Someone at reddit surely will come along with a 50,000 word post on how to optimally place it soon.

Me neither, I'm thinking of putting it behind 2 AD's & seeing what happens.

Ran into one on a raid this morning but I barch so it just got in the way. Thought it was kinda telling, I next'd a bit this morning and 1 out of about 15-20 bases had one built with another 2 being built. Don't think there is a wide acceptance of this thing yet, I know the guys in my clan where sharing some of the same sentiments you did yesterday. I'm seeing this thing as a nuisance right now more than a defensive game changer. They put it on a swivel and then it has an impact (you heard it here first, next update).

 

[culdeus]

I can't even get on now. What the ####.

 

[beer 30]

I can't even get on now. What the ####.

Turtles revenge

 

[culdeus]

This entire update has been a #### show. They should have just done the anti xmod update and left it at that. The rest of this has really been a trainwreck.

 

[AcerFC]

This entire update has been a #### show. They should have just done the anti xmod update and left it at that. The rest of this has really been a trainwreck.

The air sweeper and clan bookmarks

What else was there

 

[culdeus]

They have dramatically altered the gameplay in tons of ways here. And I don't think they thought it through.

• They will absolutely lose people that rely on barch to hit collectors of TH +/-1. Wide reports that this is damn near impossible now in every reasonable range.
• They will absolutely lose people that rely on TH sniping at high levels. (ptts, but it's alot of people) And really this goes both ways. The people that set TH to get the cheap snipe and those that use it for loot.
• Frustration will grow in the TH9/10 ranks in war about the change to the CC and AQ AI. And this is where they probably lose me. I would point anyone to the defense I had against a decent attack. My queen just slaughtered his guys while they didn't even fight back. Stupid. They did NOT think through the aggro range. Tam sent a hero led hill squad in and the king standing at arms length from their queen wiped his ### on a storage. You have to give people a chance, they've taken that away now.

 

[thecatch]

Wizards are working fine

 

[culdeus]

Wizards are working fine

At a minimum they do no damage to air sweepers.

 

[culdeus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtAnPvqv6oU&feature=youtu.be

 

[Cliff Clavin]

They have dramatically altered the gameplay in tons of ways here. And I don't think they thought it through.

• They will absolutely lose people that rely on barch to hit collectors of TH +/-1. Wide reports that this is damn near impossible now in every reasonable range.

That is ridiculous. I absolutely crushed it yesterday with two accounts, just barching. Maxed both gold and elixir. Haven't seen loot like that since the Xmas boost. The gameplay change has been awesome since I don't have to next eleventybillion crappy TH6/TH7.

 

[AcerFC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtAnPvqv6oU&feature=youtu.be

oof

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Quattro might have run into some ex-modders. Horrible attackers. One guy already has a 0% drag rush attack where he didn't deploy any troops.

These guys are throwing out raid armies. Even if they were modders, they'd still know how to put an army together or lure a CC. I think they're just turrible.

 

[sartre]

They have dramatically altered the gameplay in tons of ways here. And I don't think they thought it through.

• They will absolutely lose people that rely on TH sniping at high levels. (ptts, but it's alot of people) And really this goes both ways. The people that set TH to get the cheap snipe and those that use it for loot.

I've been pondering this one lately. Of course we all evaluate the updates with a perspective of "how does this change things for me" but I believe this will be a net positive difference. I expect to face more real attacks, but nothing dramatic -- maybe an increase from 1 in 100, to 1 in 20. Further, without those TH7 and TH8 who make a living in Master's by sniping for the loot bonus, that should result in more snipe opportunities for me.

 

[thecatch]

Wizards are working fine

At a minimum they do no damage to air sweepers.

I take it back, just watched some relays and you are right they aren't doing splash damage either.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Quattro might have run into some ex-modders. Horrible attackers. One guy already has a 0% drag rush attack where he didn't deploy any troops.

These guys are throwing out raid armies. Even if they were modders, they'd still know how to put an army together or lure a CC. I think they're just turrible.

Then how did they get to 45 wins?

Not being able to mod isn't going to suddenly make them stop using hogs and going with 10giants, 10wb and the rest barch.

The drag rush that failed with 0% could have been a timeout. Why would a TH7 drag rush need a mod? I guess the mod app could have crashed and caused the zero.

 

[culdeus]

They have dramatically altered the gameplay in tons of ways here. And I don't think they thought it through.

• They will absolutely lose people that rely on TH sniping at high levels. (ptts, but it's alot of people) And really this goes both ways. The people that set TH to get the cheap snipe and those that use it for loot.

I've been pondering this one lately. Of course we all evaluate the updates with a perspective of "how does this change things for me" but I believe this will be a net positive difference. I expect to face more real attacks, but nothing dramatic -- maybe an increase from 1 in 100, to 1 in 20. Further, without those TH7 and TH8 who make a living in Master's by sniping for the loot bonus, that should result in more snipe opportunities for me.

The effect on the economy will be dramatic though. That's a ton of loot that is pulled out of the system that has nowhere to trickle down to.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Wizards are working fine

At a minimum they do no damage to air sweepers.

I take it back, just watched some relays and you are right they aren't doing splash damage either.

Just got attacked by 32 wiz. They crushed an air sweeper and anything else they targeted.

 

[culdeus]

ok i just started raiding silver 2 with shuke. my god. I'm dropping down asap with main. this is insanity.

 

[beer 30]

They have dramatically altered the gameplay in tons of ways here. And I don't think they thought it through.

• They will absolutely lose people that rely on barch to hit collectors of TH +/-1. Wide reports that this is damn near impossible now in every reasonable range.

That is ridiculous. I absolutely crushed it yesterday with two accounts, just barching. Maxed both gold and elixir. Haven't seen loot like that since the Xmas boost. The gameplay change has been awesome since I don't have to next eleventybillion crappy TH6/TH7.

Kinda what I saw yesterday as well and agree, not having to next through a million junk bases is nice. Another side benefit, at least to me, is seeing bases that more mirror what I'll see in war so if I want to practice an attack it doesn't cost a mill in gold to next a base that fits something you'll likely see in war as opposed to the junk you saw before.

 

[sartre]

They have dramatically altered the gameplay in tons of ways here. And I don't think they thought it through.

• They will absolutely lose people that rely on TH sniping at high levels. (ptts, but it's alot of people) And really this goes both ways. The people that set TH to get the cheap snipe and those that use it for loot.

I've been pondering this one lately. Of course we all evaluate the updates with a perspective of "how does this change things for me" but I believe this will be a net positive difference. I expect to face more real attacks, but nothing dramatic -- maybe an increase from 1 in 100, to 1 in 20. Further, without those TH7 and TH8 who make a living in Master's by sniping for the loot bonus, that should result in more snipe opportunities for me.

The effect on the economy will be dramatic though. That's a ton of loot that is pulled out of the system that has nowhere to trickle down to.

Good point.

Edit: actually, no, the number of snipes wouldn't change, so the loot injected into the economy wouldn't change. What changes is perhaps that more of it goes to TH10 and less to TH7. Which shouldn't really matter (to those of us TH10 in master's)

ok i just started raiding silver 2 with shuke. my god. I'm dropping down asap with main. this is insanity.

For real? Last time you inspired me to drop (which was to ~500) I regretted it. Do you think the loot is THAT good now, that it will be worth a 2000 trophy climb later?

 

[Cliff Clavin]

They have dramatically altered the gameplay in tons of ways here. And I don't think they thought it through.

• They will absolutely lose people that rely on barch to hit collectors of TH +/-1. Wide reports that this is damn near impossible now in every reasonable range.

That is ridiculous. I absolutely crushed it yesterday with two accounts, just barching. Maxed both gold and elixir. Haven't seen loot like that since the Xmas boost. The gameplay change has been awesome since I don't have to next eleventybillion crappy TH6/TH7.

Kinda what I saw yesterday as well and agree, not having to next through a million junk bases is nice. Another side benefit, at least to me, is seeing bases that more mirror what I'll see in war so if I want to practice an attack it doesn't cost a mill in gold to next a base that fits something you'll likely see in war as opposed to the junk you saw before.

Yep. I was finding either abandoned bases with full collectors (hit with as few barch as needed and drop the trophies to stay in range) or TH8 (my level) with loaded stores that would take the full army plus a spell to get the majority of loot.

 

[culdeus]

They have dramatically altered the gameplay in tons of ways here. And I don't think they thought it through.

• They will absolutely lose people that rely on TH sniping at high levels. (ptts, but it's alot of people) And really this goes both ways. The people that set TH to get the cheap snipe and those that use it for loot.

I've been pondering this one lately. Of course we all evaluate the updates with a perspective of "how does this change things for me" but I believe this will be a net positive difference. I expect to face more real attacks, but nothing dramatic -- maybe an increase from 1 in 100, to 1 in 20. Further, without those TH7 and TH8 who make a living in Master's by sniping for the loot bonus, that should result in more snipe opportunities for me.

The effect on the economy will be dramatic though. That's a ton of loot that is pulled out of the system that has nowhere to trickle down to.

Good point.

ok i just started raiding silver 2 with shuke. my god. I'm dropping down asap with main. this is insanity.

For real? Last time you inspired me to drop (which was to ~500) I regretted it. Do you think the loot is THAT good now, that it will be worth a 2000 trophy climb later?

They changed a few things, one you can search like +/- 500 trophies and you are dealt stuff in your TH range +/-1. So TH9 get the most benefit from this by far.

Shuke nexted a little this morning at 950 with a mass drag army i was dumping and had a pick of some just monster bases one after another. And the bases in this trophy range generally blow or are inactive or are the 500 style base with collectors in the core. Just roll a little bit deep and you crush them.

Only risk is that the hunter does become the hunted but my plan is to leave gold storages out forever now that walls count in war matchmake so that bribe should get me some shields.

 

[Jnox]

They have dramatically altered the gameplay in tons of ways here. And I don't think they thought it through.

• They will absolutely lose people that rely on TH sniping at high levels. (ptts, but it's alot of people) And really this goes both ways. The people that set TH to get the cheap snipe and those that use it for loot.

I've been pondering this one lately. Of course we all evaluate the updates with a perspective of "how does this change things for me" but I believe this will be a net positive difference. I expect to face more real attacks, but nothing dramatic -- maybe an increase from 1 in 100, to 1 in 20. Further, without those TH7 and TH8 who make a living in Master's by sniping for the loot bonus, that should result in more snipe opportunities for me.

The effect on the economy will be dramatic though. That's a ton of loot that is pulled out of the system that has nowhere to trickle down to.

Good point.

Edit: actually, no, the number of snipes wouldn't change, so the loot injected into the economy wouldn't change. What changes is perhaps that more of it goes to TH10 and less to TH7. Which shouldn't really matter (to those of us TH10 in master's)

ok i just started raiding silver 2 with shuke. my god. I'm dropping down asap with main. this is insanity.

For real? Last time you inspired me to drop (which was to ~500) I regretted it. Do you think the loot is THAT good now, that it will be worth a 2000 trophy climb later?

Not sure what you normally make on raids but my last 8 attacks in Silver I made 2.1 mil in gold and 1.7 mil in elixir. Not saying it'll be that way for you. Just providing you some numbers

 

[AcerFC]

They have dramatically altered the gameplay in tons of ways here. And I don't think they thought it through.

• They will absolutely lose people that rely on TH sniping at high levels. (ptts, but it's alot of people) And really this goes both ways. The people that set TH to get the cheap snipe and those that use it for loot.

I've been pondering this one lately. Of course we all evaluate the updates with a perspective of "how does this change things for me" but I believe this will be a net positive difference. I expect to face more real attacks, but nothing dramatic -- maybe an increase from 1 in 100, to 1 in 20. Further, without those TH7 and TH8 who make a living in Master's by sniping for the loot bonus, that should result in more snipe opportunities for me.

The effect on the economy will be dramatic though. That's a ton of loot that is pulled out of the system that has nowhere to trickle down to.

Good point.

Edit: actually, no, the number of snipes wouldn't change, so the loot injected into the economy wouldn't change. What changes is perhaps that more of it goes to TH10 and less to TH7. Which shouldn't really matter (to those of us TH10 in master's)

ok i just started raiding silver 2 with shuke. my god. I'm dropping down asap with main. this is insanity.

For real? Last time you inspired me to drop (which was to ~500) I regretted it. Do you think the loot is THAT good now, that it will be worth a 2000 trophy climb later?

Not sure what you normally make on raids but my last 8 attacks in Silver I made 2.1 mil in gold and 1.7 mil in elixir. Not saying it'll be that way for you. Just providing you some numbers

Just for fun, I added up my last 8 in Masters 2 and 1

2.35 million gold, 2.25 elix and 24,178 dark elix

So not too off down in silver. But I also had 2 TH Snipes in there.

How much dark elix did you make

 

[culdeus]

Do Bonuses show in your log ?

 

[Jnox]

They have dramatically altered the gameplay in tons of ways here. And I don't think they thought it through.

• They will absolutely lose people that rely on TH sniping at high levels. (ptts, but it's alot of people) And really this goes both ways. The people that set TH to get the cheap snipe and those that use it for loot.

I've been pondering this one lately. Of course we all evaluate the updates with a perspective of "how does this change things for me" but I believe this will be a net positive difference. I expect to face more real attacks, but nothing dramatic -- maybe an increase from 1 in 100, to 1 in 20. Further, without those TH7 and TH8 who make a living in Master's by sniping for the loot bonus, that should result in more snipe opportunities for me.

The effect on the economy will be dramatic though. That's a ton of loot that is pulled out of the system that has nowhere to trickle down to.

Good point.

Edit: actually, no, the number of snipes wouldn't change, so the loot injected into the economy wouldn't change. What changes is perhaps that more of it goes to TH10 and less to TH7. Which shouldn't really matter (to those of us TH10 in master's)

ok i just started raiding silver 2 with shuke. my god. I'm dropping down asap with main. this is insanity.

For real? Last time you inspired me to drop (which was to ~500) I regretted it. Do you think the loot is THAT good now, that it will be worth a 2000 trophy climb later?

Not sure what you normally make on raids but my last 8 attacks in Silver I made 2.1 mil in gold and 1.7 mil in elixir. Not saying it'll be that way for you. Just providing you some numbers

Just for fun, I added up my last 8 in Masters 2 and 1

2.35 million gold, 2.25 elix and 24,178 dark elix

So not too off down in silver. But I also had 2 TH Snipes in there.

How much dark elix did you make

Only 1276 so that's a huge difference.

 

[Jnox]

Do Bonuses show in your log ?

No...The bonus in silver 1 is 4,000 gold/elixir I think and the bonus in Gold 3 is 8,000 gold/elixir.

 

[freeannyong]

No bonuses don't show in log.

If you are farming for DE no point in leaving masters. If you need a lot of gold elixir you can drop to gold/silver and rake.

 

[AcerFC]

Just for fun, I added up my last 8 in Masters 2 and 1


2.35 million gold, 2.25 elix and 24,178 dark elix

So not too off down in silver. But I also had 2 TH Snipes in there.

How much dark elix did you make

Only 1276 so that's a huge difference.

wow, so that is where the real difference is

This was no surprise, but it just cements it. If you are pushing heroes, you really cant afford to drop out of crystal

 

[culdeus]

Ok well 8 raids up here is 1.112M each just in bonuses on g/e and 7200 DE.

 

[Jnox]

Just for fun, I added up my last 8 in Masters 2 and 1


2.35 million gold, 2.25 elix and 24,178 dark elix

So not too off down in silver. But I also had 2 TH Snipes in there.

How much dark elix did you make

Only 1276 so that's a huge difference.

wow, so that is where the real difference is

This was no surprise, but it just cements it. If you are pushing heroes, you really cant afford to drop out of crystal

Are you barching or bringing a real army? Just curious. My army is just barbs/archers and giants with my BK

 

[Jnox]

Ok well 8 raids up here is 1.112M each just in bonuses on g/e and 7200 DE.

Like I said originally, I was just giving Sartre the numbers down where I'm at because you told him how great the raiding was with Shuke down in Silver.

 

[AcerFC]

Just for fun, I added up my last 8 in Masters 2 and 1


2.35 million gold, 2.25 elix and 24,178 dark elix

So not too off down in silver. But I also had 2 TH Snipes in there.

How much dark elix did you make

Only 1276 so that's a huge difference.

wow, so that is where the real difference is

This was no surprise, but it just cements it. If you are pushing heroes, you really cant afford to drop out of crystal

Are you barching or bringing a real army? Just curious. My army is just barbs/archers and giants with my BK

24 loons, 1 lavahound and 45 minions.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

wow, so that is where the real difference is

This was no surprise, but it just cements it. If you are pushing heroes, you really cant afford to drop out of crystal

Would you not get crushed there every time as a low TH9? I'd get steamrolled for 300/300/2000 at Gold 1/2 as soon as I logged off.

 

[AcerFC]

wow, so that is where the real difference is

This was no surprise, but it just cements it. If you are pushing heroes, you really cant afford to drop out of crystal

Would you not get crushed there every time as a low TH9? I'd get steamrolled for 300/300/2000 at Gold 1/2 as soon as I logged off.

Nope, left my th out and 90% were snipes

You could also drop excess into walls.

ETA: This is one of the nice aspects of being so high. Many times, Ill get the snipe even though the army can destroy me. People snipe for the bonus and move on

 

[culdeus]

They also messed up the bonus stars. For a 40v40 you only need 12 stars to max bonus.

What a mess

 

[culdeus]

SMN just got rocked by a level 1 hairdryer. held him from an easy 3 to a 2. If you want to see it in action swing by.

 

[freeannyong]

I was almost convinced to go to th10. This update may have changed that

 

[culdeus]

I was almost convinced to go to th10. This update may have changed that

Why? For war matchmake a TH9 like you is somewhat a drag and will be only worse if you stay at th9.

Your heroes and walls will bring in tougher matchups going forward. Not having the 240 makes our matches harder without the benefit of 25 more troops and extra levels.

 

[freeannyong]

I see a lot of th9 at masters now. Easy to take 2200 DE from them. But who knows might still pull the trigger after vacation

 

[AcerFC]

They drastically reduced the cups you can take from a th9. Most I have seen is 11, low of 3

 

[Statorama]

SMN just got rocked by a level 1 hairdryer. held him from an easy 3 to a 2. If you want to see it in action swing by.

Can someone drop the trophy draw bridge to 2000? I'm curious to see this

 

[Shoot_Me_Now]

SMN just got rocked by a level 1 hairdryer. held him from an easy 3 to a 2. If you want to see it in action swing by.

Can someone drop the trophy draw bridge to 2000? I'm curious to see this

Lowered

 

[AcerFC]

I need a break from war. Should I stay in fbg or go to honda