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GregR
Footballguy
I don't think things are so black and white.
It depends on the situation. One of my war bases you are going to waste more troops on the CC lure than you are likely to lose if you just used good tactics to deal with them during the battle (like making sure you have some wiz near your golems at the point the CC troops will hit, and/or having some witches/skels there to absorb attention).
Other war bases luring is definitely the way to go.because it doesn't cost you as much to do it. If you're having to blow 30 unit space just to get the CC troops to emerge, I'd say in most cases it probably isn't worth it. If you're blowing 15 units to do it, probably worth it. If you're going to be able to kill some towers with the units you're spending, that can help make a higher cost worth it too.
ETA: And those numbers might change depending on the base. A lower level base I'm not as worried giving up 30 units as I am on a tougher base.
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culdeus
Footballguy
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Road Warriors
Footballguy
Quattro is settling in on a 2 war a week schedule with a Sat evening kick and another immediately following on Monday.
Typically, Boog & Honda kick on Thursday - Boog varies some between noon-ish and late afternoon, Honda generally around 6 PM. PIK can speak to Boog's schedule better than I. This week, Boog went on Monday to get a war in around the Holidays, where Honda suspended wars for Christmas, and I'm not sure if they'll go this week around New Years.
The wars, on regular schedule, are intended to allow movement between Boog/Honda and Quattro without overlapping wars. This week is an anomoly in schedules.
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
honda will be back to normal schedule starting this week, declaring Thursday afternoon and attacking Friday/Saturday.
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GregR
Footballguy
Andyroid... an alternative to Bluestacks for playing on PC
Though I've been mostly fine playing on Bluestacks... it has 3 downsides for me.
First is specific to my setup. It hates Logitech G110 gaming keyboards, which is what I happen to use on my desktop. It randomly locks it up, repeating the last key I pressed until I unplug the USB plug and then plug it back in. Other people report the same problem with just this model of keyboard. Sometimes I go all day without it happening, other times it'll happen twice in five minutes.
Second, the zoom has never worked well. It's worst when you first use it, after which it seems to settle down. But I've had it grab and move buildings before, collect resources, etc, as it randomly clicks somewhere on the screen.
Finally, Bluestacks is pretty graphics processor intensive.
So I decided to try an alternative, mainly because of the keyboard issue. I loaded up Andryroid, another droid emulator for PC. Installation was straight forward, had to reboot during it. Added my google account during the setup though I canceled out of the 1clicksync thing as I don't want it messing with anything on my phone.
Launched CoC, everything good. The resolution was different than Bluestacks, I modified it (system tray, right click on Andy icon -> Settings -> Set Resolution) to 1600x900 the same as my Bluestacks used, and it feels the same.
Added in my other 2 google ids and now am switching between them in game the same as I can on Bluestacks of my phone.
Zooming works!
As for the zoom... zooming works fine so far on Andyroid though it takes a second to figure it out. What you do is:
1) Hold down the Control button for this entire process. If you have the setting on that shows a circle where you are "touching" the screen, when you first hold Control you'll see a single circle at the mouse pointer. It was on by default for me.
2) Drag the mouse some direction. You will see two of the "touch" circles now that separate further as you move the mouse. Those two circles are going to be where, when you hit the mouse button, it's going to "grab" the screen the same as you'd grab a tablet or phone's screen with 2 fingers at once.
3) So now the circles are separated a little, click and hold the mouse button. Now it acts as if you are touching the screen in those two points. While continuing to hold the mouse button (and the Control button still too), if you move the mouse to bring the circles towards each other, it is like a pinching gesture on a tablet and it Zooms Out. If you separate the circles further, it is like the expand gesture on a tablet and it Zooms In.
Takes a couple times to get used to, but I think I'll get used to it very quick once I get some muscle memory built up with it. And it actually has zoomed every time so far, it hasn't activated buildings or opened the chat window or collected gold or the other things Bluestacks would sometimes do.
I can't speak to whether it is easier on the graphics card or not yet. I'll try it on my laptop later, where I have a temperature widget on screen and can see if it runs cooler than Bluestacks.
Edit: Adding my update so it's all in one place for the OP link. Desktop working well, laptop not playable though for performance reasons.
Though I've been mostly fine playing on Bluestacks... it has 3 downsides for me.
First is specific to my setup. It hates Logitech G110 gaming keyboards, which is what I happen to use on my desktop. It randomly locks it up, repeating the last key I pressed until I unplug the USB plug and then plug it back in. Other people report the same problem with just this model of keyboard. Sometimes I go all day without it happening, other times it'll happen twice in five minutes.
Second, the zoom has never worked well. It's worst when you first use it, after which it seems to settle down. But I've had it grab and move buildings before, collect resources, etc, as it randomly clicks somewhere on the screen.
Finally, Bluestacks is pretty graphics processor intensive.
So I decided to try an alternative, mainly because of the keyboard issue. I loaded up Andryroid, another droid emulator for PC. Installation was straight forward, had to reboot during it. Added my google account during the setup though I canceled out of the 1clicksync thing as I don't want it messing with anything on my phone.
Launched CoC, everything good. The resolution was different than Bluestacks, I modified it (system tray, right click on Andy icon -> Settings -> Set Resolution) to 1600x900 the same as my Bluestacks used, and it feels the same.
Added in my other 2 google ids and now am switching between them in game the same as I can on Bluestacks of my phone.
Zooming works!
As for the zoom... zooming works fine so far on Andyroid though it takes a second to figure it out. What you do is:
1) Hold down the Control button for this entire process. If you have the setting on that shows a circle where you are "touching" the screen, when you first hold Control you'll see a single circle at the mouse pointer. It was on by default for me.
2) Drag the mouse some direction. You will see two of the "touch" circles now that separate further as you move the mouse. Those two circles are going to be where, when you hit the mouse button, it's going to "grab" the screen the same as you'd grab a tablet or phone's screen with 2 fingers at once.
3) So now the circles are separated a little, click and hold the mouse button. Now it acts as if you are touching the screen in those two points. While continuing to hold the mouse button (and the Control button still too), if you move the mouse to bring the circles towards each other, it is like a pinching gesture on a tablet and it Zooms Out. If you separate the circles further, it is like the expand gesture on a tablet and it Zooms In.
Takes a couple times to get used to, but I think I'll get used to it very quick once I get some muscle memory built up with it. And it actually has zoomed every time so far, it hasn't activated buildings or opened the chat window or collected gold or the other things Bluestacks would sometimes do.
I can't speak to whether it is easier on the graphics card or not yet. I'll try it on my laptop later, where I have a temperature widget on screen and can see if it runs cooler than Bluestacks.
Edit: Adding my update so it's all in one place for the OP link. Desktop working well, laptop not playable though for performance reasons.
Greg Russell said:
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culdeus
Footballguy
updated
Got solid attacks from
mdd
igbomb
jason
va
hhh
igbomb again :mvp:
smn
uhm
DOC FOR 3
me
today so far. still in the hunt here
72 on 60/70
to
75 on 62/70
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culdeus
Footballguy
We are at a crossroads here. I think we thought dropping back to 35 or so in fbg1 would give us some shelter for a bit. If anything it's made it harder. Our low end guys this war had at most one base they could have made par on out of 35. That's not fun for anyone.
The central issue here is FBG4 poaching members from FBG1.
It's time to discuss this out in the open.
it's time to fold FBG4 and set out the olive branch to bring back people from that clan.
There is simply no reason why a 2 war clan should be more attractive than a 3 war clan to anyone. IMO it's 1 or 3/always. This two war clan bull#### has to stop. Now.
The central issue here is FBG4 poaching members from FBG1.
It's time to discuss this out in the open.
it's time to fold FBG4 and set out the olive branch to bring back people from that clan.
There is simply no reason why a 2 war clan should be more attractive than a 3 war clan to anyone. IMO it's 1 or 3/always. This two war clan bull#### has to stop. Now.
BostonRob
Footballguy
I couldnt agree more, enough is enough!
We gotta unite the 7 houses! What is beyond the (skull)wall will finish us all! Let's ride together again guys!
Seriously, we gotta get back to 50 again, this is a joke! FBG1 should be full, the whole forum is at stake here, Greg and yall where you at?
Fantasy season is over, come back home!
/Zubayr
We gotta unite the 7 houses! What is beyond the (skull)wall will finish us all! Let's ride together again guys!
Seriously, we gotta get back to 50 again, this is a joke! FBG1 should be full, the whole forum is at stake here, Greg and yall where you at?
Fantasy season is over, come back home!
/Zubayr
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
We have 2 basically 30 man clans and 2 idk what to call them. It's time to recruit outside the FFA to fill FBG1 if things continue the way they are.
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PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
EYLive
Footballguy
coyote5
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
There's no profile. I mean horribly rushed th10 and th9 are about the only thing we can't take. I'd say we could stand 5-10 sub TH8 accounts too. We are getting to the point where all our th8s will be dust in the wind shortly. We need some fresh blood to get a better diversity on matchups.
Even a semi-rushed th8 is ok. After the update with the extra drills and collector levels it's easier to rally from that position.
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
igbomb
Footballguy
So, between the 4 clans we have 128 members right now.
Question for the fbg4 guys: If we migrated the other way, if all of the fbg1 guys wanted to move over to fbg4, would the entire group be welcomed? If 2nd accounts are dropped (other than greg and his identical twin accounts) there are just about 50 villages between the two clans. Are there specific people that are less than welcome in fbg4 or is it entirely the 2 vs. 3 war thing?
If someone needs to drop out due to overcrowding, I'm willing to go wandering the countryside for a while.
Question for the fbg4 guys: If we migrated the other way, if all of the fbg1 guys wanted to move over to fbg4, would the entire group be welcomed? If 2nd accounts are dropped (other than greg and his identical twin accounts) there are just about 50 villages between the two clans. Are there specific people that are less than welcome in fbg4 or is it entirely the 2 vs. 3 war thing?
If someone needs to drop out due to overcrowding, I'm willing to go wandering the countryside for a while.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
2 wars a week is the right number for me.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Yup. Plenty of guys don't want to war all the time. And I've been saying for a long time that fbgs1 didn't work because of its makeup and things needed to be shaken up. But instead of seeing the light and agreeing to divide things up a bit and working together, the same cast of characters acted like fbgs1 was superior to everything else offered and that anything else was beneath them.
If you really want to complain, go complain about the two FBG clans that are exactly the same.
Busted
Footballguy
I've been beefing up my TH9 in Honda after getting creamed in fbgs the last couple wars. I was an under developed th9 as compared to the competition. Being a pure air artist i found it was very difficult to get two stars against stacked th9s. I also started to get three starred by gowipes for the first time, very disconcerting. I have added more offense like max teslas and xbows. Next up are walls.
I really think when FBGS started to drop below 50 was after a couple stupid chinese lay downs which suxed out our competitive spirit followed by a couple clans that easily over matched us. We had a long run of domination before that. Thanksgiving and xmas caused us to scatter and then who wants to go back to the slaughter?
Well I welcome golem dung in my face! ill be headed home to FBGS soon. Rally to FBGS.
I really think when FBGS started to drop below 50 was after a couple stupid chinese lay downs which suxed out our competitive spirit followed by a couple clans that easily over matched us. We had a long run of domination before that. Thanksgiving and xmas caused us to scatter and then who wants to go back to the slaughter?
Well I welcome golem dung in my face! ill be headed home to FBGS soon. Rally to FBGS.
igbomb
Footballguy
I have no idea what the hell you are talking about. What kind of shakeup do you think fbg needs? And how have we shown that we think any ideas are beneath us?
igbomb
Footballguy
GregR
Footballguy
2 wars is the right number for me as well. Sometimes I only want one, even. Continual wars, I'll burn out and get sick of them and not do any.
We've got 64 people between FBG1 and FBG4 at the moment. They won't all fit in one clan. I don't really see a reason one clan needs to be 50. I'd rather have all of our clans at a size requests get filled quickly.
I also prefer a distribution of base levels over having a glut of TH9s together. I thought it created monotonous war matchups with little variation on opponents.
We've got 64 people between FBG1 and FBG4 at the moment. They won't all fit in one clan. I don't really see a reason one clan needs to be 50. I'd rather have all of our clans at a size requests get filled quickly.
I also prefer a distribution of base levels over having a glut of TH9s together. I thought it created monotonous war matchups with little variation on opponents.
Busted
Footballguy
Guys, FBGS had a continual change up of peeps coming and going. If you didnt want to war you drop down to boog or honda then come back up when your ready. It was easy and nice to see new faces. Everyone had the opportunity to be happy.
With FBG4, we have unbalanced ourselves with two many clans for the active members to fill properly. Now, we have an internal clan war going. We have to be loyal to the existing clans before we start another. Any other decision is just self destructive.
Make me an argument that makes more sense.
With FBG4, we have unbalanced ourselves with two many clans for the active members to fill properly. Now, we have an internal clan war going. We have to be loyal to the existing clans before we start another. Any other decision is just self destructive.
Make me an argument that makes more sense.
Wow...some really arrogant people and part of the reason why newer players, i.e. those u so desperately need to spread out the th distribution, want nothing to do with FBG1. I'd rather stick with a friendly growth oriented clan like Honda and popping into quattro when I want an extra war.
People have different needs and don't necessarily desire to do the same thing others want to do.
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
I vote to just recruit some peeps for FBGs.
Being at 50 > 30.
Even if we recruit though, the ugly truth is that we all need to improve our skills.
I think there's a few key points that have helped me a lot that I can share.
1) CC troops being cleared with 2 witches, a wiz, 2 barbs and a queen. This combo will clear pretty much any cc and keep all those units alive. No spells needed, no need to waste your BK. The key to pull them to an area where you will be starting your attack.
2) Hogs and Loons on the backside of attacks. A lot of the time a Goxxxx will get stuck behind walls. Your golem, pekka, or hero just tanking damage. A few targeted loons will turn those 2 star attacks into 3.
3) Funneling troops - I was having issues with my heroes and other troops going for a walk a lot of times. It's very important to take out structures that can attract your big troops and lead them outside the base. you want to give your troops a clear path to where you want them to go.
YouTube is a great resource. All it takes is a few minutes to watch and learn. One of my preferred is Onehive raids. Lots of good instructional videos explaining game mechanics.
Being at 50 > 30.
Even if we recruit though, the ugly truth is that we all need to improve our skills.
I think there's a few key points that have helped me a lot that I can share.
1) CC troops being cleared with 2 witches, a wiz, 2 barbs and a queen. This combo will clear pretty much any cc and keep all those units alive. No spells needed, no need to waste your BK. The key to pull them to an area where you will be starting your attack.
2) Hogs and Loons on the backside of attacks. A lot of the time a Goxxxx will get stuck behind walls. Your golem, pekka, or hero just tanking damage. A few targeted loons will turn those 2 star attacks into 3.
3) Funneling troops - I was having issues with my heroes and other troops going for a walk a lot of times. It's very important to take out structures that can attract your big troops and lead them outside the base. you want to give your troops a clear path to where you want them to go.
YouTube is a great resource. All it takes is a few minutes to watch and learn. One of my preferred is Onehive raids. Lots of good instructional videos explaining game mechanics.
Not to pick on you Grove, but the only people complaining, are some fbg1 guys who are mad because they started to get their asses kicked. I don't hear any complaining from the other three.
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
GregR
Footballguy
Andyroid update.
Preferring it on the desktop still... but no joy on using it on the laptop. It seems to require more CPU or memory than Bluestacks did. For a laptop I have a pretty good system, but it's very slow even just to launch. Couldn't get CoC to the point of playing the game, it kept hanging in the load screens before finally bailing.
So I wouldn't recommend it for laptops, though preferring it on the desktop.
Preferring it on the desktop still... but no joy on using it on the laptop. It seems to require more CPU or memory than Bluestacks did. For a laptop I have a pretty good system, but it's very slow even just to launch. Couldn't get CoC to the point of playing the game, it kept hanging in the load screens before finally bailing.
So I wouldn't recommend it for laptops, though preferring it on the desktop.
Busted
Footballguy
Rascal, i have no idea what you are talking about. There is no arrogance in 1, they are just great supportive peeps. I have not read anything here that would be construed as arrogance. Culdeus is constantly giving help as our war captain, the rest of the senior members are the best of any clan I have been on - and I'm level 100 now.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
FWIW, I switched from FBG1 mainly because I'm on vacation overseas visiting family, and didn't want to have to worry about three wars for the time being. I'm also helping my brother start over his account and having him hope in and out to avoid three wars a week would've been annoying. It's annoying enough to do so in FBG4 with two, although I see he has been caught up in this current war. He's a 1-cannon TH5, lol.
Sucks that FBGS is in a rut, but seems to be more about make up (85% TH9 or whatever) than actual number of players.
Sucks that FBGS is in a rut, but seems to be more about make up (85% TH9 or whatever) than actual number of players.
The Duff Man
Footballguy
I just cant do constant war. Honda has been great (old man Fudd....) but may go back to two a week soon.
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
The only real issue make up wise is that we are lacking some TH10's at the top. IMO we have too many maxed TH9's which is skewing our matchmaking values. We simply don't have the punching power to take out the TH10's we have been matched up against recently. Almost every war we have been outgunned by TH10's and we rarely are able to even 1 star them.
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AcerFC
Footballguy
This is what the draft/reshuffling thing was supposed to have fixed.
There are definitely posts from fbg1 members which can be construed as elitist. I'm not sure they are, but can see it.
At the end of the day, this is supposed to be fun. It's a game. The last year has been about growing and I would never have stuck it out if not for this clan
I get why BB and grove wanted out of boog. At some point, the friends and friends of friends makes it seem no better than a random.
It is my guestimation that out of the 35 fbg1 members, 6-10 are die hard 3 wars a week guys. The rest, me included, just follow along. Since day 1, I've said the donations are what keeps me there.
Would really love to see a balanced reshuffling of all four clans. Something that works for most. Otherwise, there will be a few that die out and there will be no where for some to go. There are a lot of smart people here. Shirley, we can figure this out. It's not about 2-3 wars, its about trying to gain balance so we all continue to have fun. It's not so serious, it's a game. (One where people cheat and stay on all day apparently)
There are definitely posts from fbg1 members which can be construed as elitist. I'm not sure they are, but can see it.
At the end of the day, this is supposed to be fun. It's a game. The last year has been about growing and I would never have stuck it out if not for this clan
I get why BB and grove wanted out of boog. At some point, the friends and friends of friends makes it seem no better than a random.
It is my guestimation that out of the 35 fbg1 members, 6-10 are die hard 3 wars a week guys. The rest, me included, just follow along. Since day 1, I've said the donations are what keeps me there.
Would really love to see a balanced reshuffling of all four clans. Something that works for most. Otherwise, there will be a few that die out and there will be no where for some to go. There are a lot of smart people here. Shirley, we can figure this out. It's not about 2-3 wars, its about trying to gain balance so we all continue to have fun. It's not so serious, it's a game. (One where people cheat and stay on all day apparently)
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
Maintenance 30/12 - MOAR one gem boosts!
Hello,
Similarly to what happened last year, we're now introducing the second and final round of Holiday boosts!
Now you can boost all your buildings for one gem each!
- Elixir pumps
- Barracks
- Heroes
- Spell factory
- Gold mine
- Dark elixir drill
Ends January 7
Maintenance coming soon, should last about 20 mins.
Hello,
Similarly to what happened last year, we're now introducing the second and final round of Holiday boosts!
Now you can boost all your buildings for one gem each!
- Elixir pumps
- Barracks
- Heroes
- Spell factory
- Gold mine
- Dark elixir drill
Ends January 7
Maintenance coming soon, should last about 20 mins.
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
Looks like it's another week that my heroes will remain active. This rocks.
BostonRob
Footballguy
Obviously I was joking calling us big boys... c'mon now... :/
Trying to to lightened up the mood here...
I have never ever seen a bad vibe at FBG1 (except when Dad left in an epic rage due to his son being kicked hahaha), people are friendly, cool and giving.
I find it stupid to have 4 half-filled clans...
TBH, it sounds like what I'm hearing everyday here in the Middle EAst, people nag about minor indifference and losing the big picture... So we should split up into 4 clans because some want to war 1/2/3 times a week.. Crazy...
My take in the forum here is that the renegades are the ones showing arrogance if any, let's fill up FBG1 and vote on number of wars... I can understand the difference between 1 and 3 wars a week, but 2 and 3... c'mon...
Trying to to lightened up the mood here...
I have never ever seen a bad vibe at FBG1 (except when Dad left in an epic rage due to his son being kicked hahaha), people are friendly, cool and giving.
I find it stupid to have 4 half-filled clans...
TBH, it sounds like what I'm hearing everyday here in the Middle EAst, people nag about minor indifference and losing the big picture... So we should split up into 4 clans because some want to war 1/2/3 times a week.. Crazy...
My take in the forum here is that the renegades are the ones showing arrogance if any, let's fill up FBG1 and vote on number of wars... I can understand the difference between 1 and 3 wars a week, but 2 and 3... c'mon...
Culdeus's post was way overly dramatic and a few people with axes to grind for whatever odd reason are now taking shots. Fine, Culdeus's post sort of invited that.rascal said:
1 used to carry 50 because we had the rotation of people who were dropping out for a war or picking an extra one up. This really went off the rails when the number of people who wanted to rotate in couldn't get spots because 1 was full. 4 makes sense in that guys who don't want to war 3x and don't want to worry about trying to shuffle in and out of 1 have a place to chill permanently.
Unless there's a movement in 1 to go back to 2x wars a week, and there may be at some point, consolidation doesn't make sense. And frankly, at our TH levels in 1, we were having just as much trouble at 50 people as 35. 1 just needs to keep getting better. Lost the last two wars by 1 star - it's not like we're that far off.
