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Classic Album Discussion Thread: The Kinks-Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Pt. 1 (6 Viewers)

Def Leppard- Pyromania (1983)

Rock Rock (Till You Drop) 

Photograph

Stagefright

Too Late for Love

Die Hard the Hunter

Foolin’

Rock of Ages

Comin’ Under Fire

Action Not Words

Billy’s Got a Gun

Arguably the best of the 80s “hair bands”, these Brits were largely successful due to their producer Mutt Lange, and their ability to combine pop hooks with metal guitar licks. Subsequent albums would sell even better than this one, particularly the mega selling Hysteria, but this is the one that introduced them to the world and made them superstars, thanks to some really great rock and roll like “Photograph” and “Rock of Ages.” 
Decent album, but really nothing special.

I picked up the cassette after Hysteria came out as that was my first introduction to Def Leppard. I liked it well enough, but don't think it belongs on any best of type lists.

Edit: looking at in Spotify now. I think they were not on there for a while. Yeah pretty solid. Might have to give it a couple of runs again.

 
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Decent album, but really nothing special.

I picked up the cassette after Hysteria came out as that was my first introduction to Def Leppard. I liked it well enough, but don't think it belongs on any best of type lists.

Edit: looking at in Spotify now. I think they were not on there for a while. Yeah pretty solid. Might have to give it a couple of runs again.
Yep. Wrong Def Leppard album here.  

 
Decent album, but really nothing special.

I picked up the cassette after Hysteria came out as that was my first introduction to Def Leppard. I liked it well enough, but don't think it belongs on any best of type lists.

Edit: looking at in Spotify now. I think they were not on there for a while. Yeah pretty solid. Might have to give it a couple of runs again.
This was sort of a time and place thing. MTV was really starting to gain momentum and Photograph and Rock of Ages were mainstays. If you were a metalhead growing up in this era, you were already familiar with them from High ‘n’ Dry, but this was indeed the breakthrough album. (Foolin’ was one of the first songs I learned to play on guitar). Hysteria, for whatever criticism it got because of its arguably overproduced sound, is the superior album in terms of musicianship, but it’s hard to deny the anthemic aspects of Rock of Ages and one of the best intro riffs ever in Photograph.

 
Yep. Wrong Def Leppard album here.  
Nah, I don't think so - this was the best mix between the harder early stuff (although the remix of Bringin' on the Heartbreak ruined that song), and the more pop direction of Hysteria. Photograph, Foolin, and Rock of Ages are fantastic songs. 

Someone else mentioned they weren't on Spotify for awhile - interesting story there. It seems they fought with the record company about who got paid what, and finally, the band said "#### it, we'll re-record the big hits and release those", and that's exactly what they did. So for years, the only Def Leppard you could find on Spotify were re-recordings of Rock of Ages, Photograph, Sugar, etc. They sounded decent enough if you really needed Leppard in your playlist, but any fan could easily tell they weren't original.   

Decent live rock of ages with a cool medley in the middle.

 
I remember Photograph winning MTV's Friday Night Video Fights like 10 weeks in a row or something like that.  Kick ### guitars-blazing mainstream hard rock was hard to come by in 1983, so that song was red meat for those wanting to rock.

 
After listening to it a lot today, it’s got everything that pre-Peppers Beatles albums had. People are catching Zs on this one. 
Back to the Byrds, many greats beyond Petty were influenced by them.  I was recently watching one of those Classic Albums shows, this one on Cream’s Disraeli Gears (not sure we’ve covered his one yet). Never dawned upon me that Dance The Night Away (my favorite Cream tune) was heavily influenced by McGuinn’s jangly Rickenbacker. 

 
Very fun record and it was also a huge staple of the HS years for me. Photograph and Foolin’ are still songs that get me very pumped up when they come on.

Hyesteria was certainly a shift to more pop friendly songs but it was also huge at the time. I doubt I’d ever put that one on but Pyromania is one of the CDs that I have burned into my car’s music register.

 
Back to the Byrds, many greats beyond Petty were influenced by them.  I was recently watching one of those Classic Albums shows, this one on Cream’s Disraeli Gears (not sure we’ve covered his one yet). Never dawned upon me that Dance The Night Away (my favorite Cream tune) was heavily influenced by McGuinn’s jangly Rickenbacker. 
They didn’t quite have the song writing and hookiness of the Beatles but they had more edge and an Americana factor that was off the charts. 

 
They didn’t quite have the song writing and hookiness of the Beatles but they had more edge and an Americana factor that was off the charts. 
There is something that is irrepressibly optimistic about the Byrds’ music for me- part of that may be McGuinn’s vocals. 

 
Def Leppard -  Pyromania

I question a lot of stuff I listened to in the early 80s, this might top the list.

Don't get me wrong, I know why I listened to it. I was young and impressionable. It dominated the radio airwaves and got a bunch MTV play, I also hadn't found my gateway drug to punk yet (Repo Man). It was simply what you listened to in 1983 if you were into rock. 

But this hasn't aged well for me at all. It doesn't beckon old, fond memories of my childhood / early teens. It actually kind of makes my skin crawl 

 
Def Leppard -  Pyromania

I question a lot of stuff I listened to in the early 80s, this might top the list.

Don't get me wrong, I know why I listened to it. I was young and impressionable. It dominated the radio airwaves and got a bunch MTV play, I also hadn't found my gateway drug to punk yet (Repo Man). It was simply what you listened to in 1983 if you were into rock. 

But this hasn't aged well for me at all. It doesn't beckon old, fond memories of my childhood / early teens. It actually kind of makes my skin crawl 
I'm not quite as down on the early/mid 80's rock. The stuff that preceded Hysteria and Slippery When Wet (both of which really changed the genre imho), is mostly still listenable to me. Older Crue, Leppard, Ozzy, the "Slide it In" version of Whitesnake, etc. It had an edge. Once it became "party music" and stuff the girls would play on the jukebox, I kind of checked out. 

 
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Def Leppard -  Pyromania

I question a lot of stuff I listened to in the early 80s, this might top the list.

Don't get me wrong, I know why I listened to it. I was young and impressionable. It dominated the radio airwaves and got a bunch MTV play, I also hadn't found my gateway drug to punk yet (Repo Man). It was simply what you listened to in 1983 if you were into rock. 

But this hasn't aged well for me at all. It doesn't beckon old, fond memories of my childhood / early teens. It actually kind of makes my skin crawl 
Somewhere between the two the twain shall meet. 

This album makes my skin crawl, too, though I was too young to be into it. Just not a great one.  

 
The Byrds- Mr. Tambourine Man (1965) 

Mr. Tambourine Man

Feel A Whole Lot Better

 Spanish Harlem Incident

You Won’t Have to Cry

Here Without You

The Bells of Rhymney 

All I Really Want to Do

Its No Use

I Knew I’d Want You

Don’t Doubt Yourself Babe

Chimes of Freedom

We’ll Meet Again

The Byrds made Los Angeles the center of the folk rock universe, mainly due to Roger McGuinn’s jingly jangly 12 string Rickenbacker, great harmony vocals by David Crosby, and a couple of legendary songwriters named Bob Dylan and Pete Seeger. The band covers Dylan 4 times on this album: the title song, “Spanish Harlem Incident”, “All I Really Want to Do”, and the classic “Chimes of Freedom”, probably the definitive version. Gene Clark adds some filler along with the excellent rock song “Feel A Whole Lot Better” which Tom Petty, ever a Byrds fanatic, would cover exactly (and I mean exactly) 25 years later. 

But it’s probably Pete Seeger’s “The Bells of Rhymny” which best represents the band at their height of folky goodness. 
I've brought up the Byrds before on this very board. "Eight Miles High" is one of the greatest rock n' roll songs ever conceived, IMHO, and I've always enjoyed the Byrds. So there, Tim, there's your comment. LOLZ.  

 
I have to abstain.  Almost all of my answers in this thread are correlated to the quality and quantity of the sechs I was getting at the time.  Definitely good when this album was out.

 
Tim, if not too much of a pain, any chance you can place a running list of discussed albums on the first post? 

Would like to go back and listen to some I haven’t heard in a long time (or never).

TIA

 
My first "real" concert was Def Leppard in 1983.  They sounded terrible.  Not just different from the album, but like everyone was terribly out of tune or something.  Uriah Heep opened and kicked their asses.  
I don’t think they were ever renowned as a  good live band. 

 
My first "real" concert was Def Leppard in 1983.  They sounded terrible.  Not just different from the album, but like everyone was terribly out of tune or something.  Uriah Heep opened and kicked their asses.  

I still like this album more than Hysteria.  :shrug:  
:shock:

Uriah Heep was still touring then? Holy crap, I can't imagine an era of music LESS lined up with theirs than the early '80s.

I had their The Magician's Birthday and Demons And Wizards albums. I would have loved to have heard Stevie Wonder cover "Sweet Lorraine".

 
Tim, if not too much of a pain, any chance you can place a running list of discussed albums on the first post? 

Would like to go back and listen to some I haven’t heard in a long time (or never).

TIA
There is a list. If you’re looking for links to each discussion- that is a LOT of work. 

 
And no we’re no way close to running out of albums. I literally have a list of several hundred and it’s nowhere near complete. It’s only a matter of deciding which one to choose next. 

 
:yes:  

Looks like they had just released a new album at the time.  I distinctly remember liking the song "Stay on Top"  from the concert.

Very 80s video.  :lmao:  
Little bass trivia:

The bass player on this album was Bob Daisley, who left Heep ejoin Ozzy (he previously played on Blizzard of Ozz and a Diary of a Madman).

The new bass player - who appears in the linked video - is Trevor Holder - the bass player for early Bowie, including the Ziggy album. Holder was actually the “Weird” of Weird and Gilly and the Spiders of Mars.

 
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That list is horrible - where is "Runaway", "Count On Me", or "Hearts"? -  but I agree that "Coming Back To Me" is great.
I actually think the list is good - lots of oldies but goodies. “Hearts” is solo so probably didn’t make the cut. “Atlanta Lady” is also a good tune.

 
I actually think the list is good - lots of oldies but goodies. “Hearts” is solo so probably didn’t make the cut. “Atlanta Lady” is also a good tune.
Looked it up - Balin didn’t write “Count on Me” or “Runaway” so weren’t in the mix.

 
Cyndi Lauper- She’s So Unusual (1984)

Money Changes Everything

Girls Just Want to Have Fun

When You Were Mine

Time After Time

She Bop

All Through the Night

Witness

I’ll Kiss You

He’s So Unusual 

Yeah Yeah

Cyndi Lauper never came close to matching the success of her debut album, but then again,  very few artists ever will. This record dominated radio in 1984. The first 6 songs on the album all got extensive radio play, and that made sense, because they were all excellent pop classics. 

In this day of the #metoo movement and a new emphasis on women’s rights, folks should remember that Lauper played a significant role in creating a new woman who emerged as her own, liberated person, and, like her even more successful competitor  (whom we’ll get to eventually) thousands of young girls tried to dress like her and wanted to be her. And of course it helps when your tunes are so well written and catchy. 

 
Interesting choice. Never really cared for those mid-'80s albums. Lots of filler, though "Girls Just Want To Have Fun" and "She Bop" are definitely catchy. I never caught the distinctly feminist strain in her work like Madonna shaped feminism and pop culture, but Lauper certainly was influential.  

Madonna was a whole other deal, for better or worse. 

Probably worse.  

 
I agree that Lauper cannot compare to Madonna, or even Pat Benatar, when it comes to the image of a new strong woman in music of that time period, but I will give her mad props for She Bop.  For a female pop star to write a song about masturbation was pretty unheard of.  The video does a good job of relaying the implied meaning as well, although it totally went over my head at the time (I was 10 :lol:  ). 

 
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Cyndi Lauper- She’s So Unusual (1984)

Money Changes Everything

Girls Just Want to Have Fun

When You Were Mine

Time After Time

She Bop

All Through the Night

Witness

I’ll Kiss You

He’s So Unusual 

Yeah Yeah

Cyndi Lauper never came close to matching the success of her debut album, but then again,  very few artists ever will. This record dominated radio in 1984. The first 6 songs on the album all got extensive radio play, and that made sense, because they were all excellent pop classics. 

In this day of the #metoo movement and a new emphasis on women’s rights, folks should remember that Lauper played a significant role in creating a new woman who emerged as her own, liberated person, and, like her even more successful competitor  (whom we’ll get to eventually) thousands of young girls tried to dress like her and wanted to be her. And of course it helps when your tunes are so well written and catchy. 
This album is great from a nostalgia angle. I am immediately brought back to my youth in the 80s when I hear this stuff. I actually saw Cyndi Lauper perform in a small club when this album was just breaking. She is one of those performers I got to see a few months before they exploded. She was fun.

 
Always loved Lauper and this is a great collection of songs. Her vocal on "Time After Time" matches any in the '80s.

For this record to be as big as it was is amazing, considering what it was up against.

 
Nice choice again. 

Has a nostalgia factor for me, and some great tunes as well. I like this album a lot, and it's cemented into 80's lore.

I saw her open for Rod Stewart last year at Bethel Woods (Woodstock site). She was really good - one of those artists who has more familiar songs than you remember. It was funny though - in the middle of her set, a huge thunderstorm erupted, and it started hailing like mad (we were under the pavilion, but the poor thousands on the lawn...). She stopped singing and said "holy @#$%, it's hailing... those poor people... what do I do?" She eventually continued the song about 30 seconds later. Thankfully, it stopped, but it was funny to see her pause and genuinely not know what to do.  

 
Last time I heard She Bop I was at a bar in South Boston at 8:30am high as #### on ecstasy making out with my Irish buddie’s girlfriend Taryn. Lauper was performing in on some morning show, must have been about 10-11 years ago. I remember really enjoying it and looking back I really regret not ####### my buddy’s girl.

 

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