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Classic Album Discussion Thread: The Kinks-Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Pt. 1 (2 Viewers)

Not a Maiden fan, or even a metal fan.  But this album has a few songs that are accessible to non-fans, like Hallowed Be Thy Name and Children of the Damned.

 
Judas Priest got a little pop metal at times in the 80's, on albums like Point of Entry and Turbo, but listen to their 70's albums and tell me that; Stained Class is kick ### metal from start to finish.  I am not a huge metal guy, but I love me some Judas Priest.  Iron Maiden, not so much, outside of a handful of songs. 
You're absolutely right, but Priest made some good records after the 80s.  Painkiller is one of my favorites.  Their latest record is good.  They got back to it.

 
You're absolutely right, but Priest made some good records after the 80s.  Painkiller is one of my favorites.  Their latest record is good.  They got back to it.
Painkiller is pretty great. I am not as big on the title track as others are (a bit too speed metal for me), but A Touch of Evil and Night Crawler are two of Priest's best songs ever, if you ask me. 

The new one was solid. 

 
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I wasn't a big Iron Maiden fan. I liked their radio hits well enough, but never bought any of their records.

4 or 5 years ago, myself and a few of my knuckleheaded friends (all of us around 50 years old) went to an IM-headlined concert. None of us went to see Maiden, though. One guy was a hardcore, cookie-monster-vocal loving headbanger who equated IM with Barry Manilow. The rest of us really didn't care one way or the other about Iron Maiden.

No, we went to see the opening act.

ALICE MOTHER####ING COOPER, baby!!!! I looked over at my hardcore metal friend when ####### "Billion Dollar Babies" was about to blow the whole damned world up and he was ?. He said" Jesus, how did I miss THIS when I was young?"

 
For the Beatles, i currently have SP, AR, Revolver, Rubber Soul.

As for LZ, I would show HOTH some love, but I don't know if they make the top four.

For PF, it's DSOTM, WYWH, Animals, and the Wall.  That's a solid four for a PF fan.
I'm listening right now, and it's great. The water's warm boys, jump in!  

 
I wasn't a big Iron Maiden fan. I liked their radio hits well enough, but never bought any of their records.

4 or 5 years ago, myself and a few of my knuckleheaded friends (all of us around 50 years old) went to an IM-headlined concert. None of us went to see Maiden, though. One guy was a hardcore, cookie-monster-vocal loving headbanger who equated IM with Barry Manilow. The rest of us really didn't care one way or the other about Iron Maiden.

No, we went to see the opening act.

ALICE MOTHER####ING COOPER, baby!!!! I looked over at my hardcore metal friend when ####### "Billion Dollar Babies" was about to blow the whole damned world up and he was ?. He said" Jesus, how did I miss THIS when I was young?"
I have always liked Alice Cooper but was not really a big fan.   That all changed a few years ago when I saw Cooper open for Crue.  Cooper was magnificent and blew Crue away.  During that show, I got it.  

And, not that outperforming crue live is tough since they are ok at best.  At best.  

 
I have always liked Alice Cooper but was not really a big fan.   That all changed a few years ago when I saw Cooper open for Crue.  Cooper was magnificent and blew Crue away.  During that show, I got it.  

And, not that outperforming crue live is tough since they are ok at best.  At best.  
Did he have that chick playing guitar? I can't remember her name - I think it starts with an "O" - but she could shred. Hell, his whole band kicked all kinds of ###. 

 
Did he have that chick playing guitar? I can't remember her name - I think it starts with an "O" - but she could shred. Hell, his whole band kicked all kinds of ###. 
You are thinking of Orinthai.   I think Nina Strauss just replaced her when I saw them.  Both are shredders.   Bringing this topic back full circle, Strauss was with the Iron Maidens.   

Cooper is smart.   He makes sure his band is kicking.  

 
New scheduling everyone. So as to let this thread breathe a little (and me too!) 

From now on I will be posting a new album every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday morning. So each album will stay up for discussion a minimum of 2 days. 

 
Yes- Fragile (1971)

Roundabout

Cans and Brahms

We Have Heaven

South Side of the Sky

Five Per Cent for Nothing

Long Distance Runaround 

The Fish

Mood for a Day

Heart of the Sunrise

Fragile was Yes’s 4th album but it was the first to feature keyboardist Rick Wakeman, formerly of the Strawbs, a musician who revolutionized his instruments. Guitarist Steve Howe, bassist Chris Squire, and the rest of the band were all excellent musicians, and lead singer Jon Anderson is a fine and interesting vocalist, but it is Wakeman who is the star of the show and dominates this album; particularly on the opening song “Roundabout”. 

 
Yes- Fragile (1971)

Roundabout

Cans and Brahms

We Have Heaven

South Side of the Sky

Five Per Cent for Nothing

Long Distance Runaround 

The Fish

Mood for a Day

Heart of the Sunrise

Fragile was Yes’s 4th album but it was the first to feature keyboardist Rick Wakeman, formerly of the Strawbs, a musician who revolutionized his instruments. Guitarist Steve Howe, bassist Chris Squire, and the rest of the band were all excellent musicians, and lead singer Jon Anderson is a fine and interesting vocalist, but it is Wakeman who is the star of the show and dominates this album; particularly on the opening song “Roundabout”. 
A good album, and interesting in that each member of the band has their own individual songs: Wakeman - Cans and Brahms, Anderson - We Have Heaven, Bruford - Five Per Cent for Nothing, Squire - The Fish, Howe - Mood for a Day. However, not their greatest as there are less ensemble pieces. Roundabout, South Side of the Sky, and Heart of the Sunrise are all good songs.

 
Yes, I think, is an acquired taste and sometimes I have to be in the mood for it.  I'm pretty bias, I really love this album and I think Roundabout definitely made people sit up and take notice but I think Long Distance was a very cool song along with others on this one.  I've always liked Closer to the Edge a little bit better but this one is pretty great as well .  I think Steve Howe is tremendously underrated, Rick Wakeman did some spectacular work on keyboard, Bill Bruford is my 2nd favorite Yes drummer, Jon Anderson has a very unique voice but Chris Squire is an absolute beast on bass.  I mean, honestly, he's one of the very best to ever pick up the instrument and he absolutely makes Roundabout so great.

I once met Alan White (my favorite Yes drummer), my God, it's been over 30 years ago. . Jesus I'm old.  Anyway, it was at a drum clinic, he was amazing. . .tiny little man but amazing none the less.  He told some great stories, he used to be the drummer for John Lennon, but he answered questions, did some amazing solo's and at the end he let everyone get a picture and he signed everything you put in front of him, no charge for any of it.  But Alan White was with Yes from '72-'81 then '82-present.

I saw Yes on the Union tour.  It was when Yes had both the old band and new band playing together which had to be odd for those guys.  Anyway it was only Yes playing all night, I can't recall how long the concert was, they were pretty amazing, it was up in Cleveland.  Anyway, in the middle of the concert they stopped, there was a lunar eclipse and they continued with Heart of the Sunrise right afterwards.  THAT was pretty spectacular and one of those moments I was glad I bought a ticket!

Last thing, when Yes was introduced to the Rock HOF, unfortunately Chris Squire had passed away.  Geddy Lee played in his place and Roundabout was about as good as you could get check it out : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1-NsnlPc54

 
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IMO Squire's work on "Heart Of The Sunrise" is some of the best bass playing in rock history.

 
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Yes, I think, is an acquired taste and sometimes I have to be in the mood for it.  I'm pretty bias, I really love this album and I think Roundabout definitely made people sit up and take notice but I think Long Distance was a very cool song along with others on this one.  I've always liked Closer to the Edge a little bit better but this one is pretty great as well .  I think Steve Howe is tremendously underrated, Rick Wakeman did some spectacular work on keyboard, Bill Bruford is my 2nd favorite Yes drummer, Jon Anderson has a very unique voice but Chris Squire is an absolute beast on bass.  I mean, honestly, he's one of the very best to ever pick up the instrument and he absolutely makes Roundabout so great.

I once met Alan White (my favorite Yes drummer), my God, it's been over 30 years ago. . Jesus I'm old.  Anyway, it was at a drum clinic, he was amazing. . .tiny little man but amazing none the less.  He told some great stories, he used to be the drummer for John Lennon, but he answered questions, did some amazing solo's and at the end he let everyone get a picture and he signed everything you put in front of him, no charge for any of it.  But Alan White was with Yes from '72-'81 then '82-present.

I saw Yes on the Union tour.  It was when Yes had both the old band and new band playing together which had to be odd for those guys.  Anyway it was only Yes playing all night, I can't recall how long the concert was, they were pretty amazing, it was up in Cleveland.  Anyway, in the middle of the concert they stopped, there was a lunar eclipse and they continued with Heart of the Sunrise right afterwards.  THAT was pretty spectacular and one of those moments I was glad I bought a ticket!

Last thing, when Yes was introduced to the Rock HOF, unfortunately Chris Squire had passed away.  Geddy Lee played in his place and Roundabout was about as good as you could get check it out : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1-NsnlPc54
Totally great that you got to meet Alan White. I generally found Bruford to be a much more interesting drummer. I still love the snare drum sound on Roundabout.

Even though i prefer Bruford to White, my favorite Yes album is Relayer, which White plays on, and I think he does his best work with Yes on that album.

 
I'm a Yes purist so would have preferred Relayer or Close to the Edge, but I totally get the love for Fragile. Roundabout is an odd song to me in that I don't care if I never hear it again because it is so incredibly overplayed, and yet every time I am forced to listen to it (on the radio or elsewhere), I cannot deny its brilliance. An absolute gem of a song and the whole album is solid albeit with some quirky songs. I don't think Alan White can hold a candle to Bill Bruford, though, but that says more about Bruford than it does White. Heart of the Sunrise contains some of the best playing from a rhythm section that you'll ever hear.

 
No one player dominates this album; they are all absolutely killing it, and the songwriting is phenomenal.  A few of the short solo tracks are throwaways, but they are so short, they are easy to ignore.  The four major band tracks - Roundabout, South Side of the Sky, Long Distance Runaround and Heart of the Sunrise - are all magnificent.  

 
YES is touring in two versions now - a Steve Howe version with himself, White, Geoff Downs on keyboard, and a tribute band singer (who sounds excellent), and a Jon Anderson / Wakeman / Trevor Rabin version. I saw both in the last year, and both were excellent. 

 
If someone asked me, "Give me one rock album that features incredible bass playing," my answer every time would be Fragile.  Chris Squire's bass lines on this record are thunderous. 

 
Love this album.  Especially the tranquility of Mood for a Day leading into the violent beginning of Heart of the Sunrise.

 
Not a big Yes fan, but for me the most interesting part of this band was always Chris Squire. That is a mother####er of a bass player.

 
Going back a few pages, The Go Go’s pretty much came out of the punk scene and sold out for pop, but there’s just enough punk in the pop in that first album that I really like. Just the way Belinda would finish off notes, like for example with the “can you hear them?” opening to Our Lips are Sealed. Then they really go full pop in subsequent albums. But I also respected how involved The Go Go’s were with the writing of their songs, unlike some other all-female bands.

 
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The Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975)

Science Fiction/ Double Feature

Dammit Janet

Over At the Frankenstein Place

Time Warp

Sweet Transvestite

I Can Make You a Man

Hot Patootie/Bless My Soul

I Can Make You a Man (reprise) 

Touch-A, Touch-A, Touch Me

Eddie

Rose Tint My World

I’m Going Home

Super Heroes

Special Halloween version of the classic albums thread! 

This album features the talents of Richard O’Brien (who also wrote it), Tim Curry, Susan Sarandon, Meat Loaf, Barry Bostwick, Patricia Quinn, and Little Nell. The songs are incredibly campy but actually quite good. “Time Warp” remains a standard all of these years later. 

 
The Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975)

Science Fiction/ Double Feature

Dammit Janet

Over At the Frankenstein Place

Time Warp

Sweet Transvestite

I Can Make You a Man

Hot Patootie/Bless My Soul

I Can Make You a Man (reprise) 

Touch-A, Touch-A, Touch Me

Eddie

Rose Tint My World

I’m Going Home

Super Heroes

Special Halloween version of the classic albums thread! 

This album features the talents of Richard O’Brien (who also wrote it), Tim Curry, Susan Sarandon, Meat Loaf, Barry Bostwick, Patricia Quinn, and Little Nell. The songs are incredibly campy but actually quite good. “Time Warp” remains a standard all of these years later. 
Used to go all the time in HS/College Summers at home in Boston.

Time Warp is a great song, and when you saw the show in a theater, standing up and dancing along was tons of fun; but this is the best in the show.

 
The Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975)

Science Fiction/ Double Feature

Dammit Janet

Over At the Frankenstein Place

Time Warp

Sweet Transvestite

I Can Make You a Man

Hot Patootie/Bless My Soul

I Can Make You a Man (reprise) 

Touch-A, Touch-A, Touch Me

Eddie

Rose Tint My World

I’m Going Home

Super Heroes

Special Halloween version of the classic albums thread! 

This album features the talents of Richard O’Brien (who also wrote it), Tim Curry, Susan Sarandon, Meat Loaf, Barry Bostwick, Patricia Quinn, and Little Nell. The songs are incredibly campy but actually quite good. “Time Warp” remains a standard all of these years later. 
It is a pretty good album, but some of O'briens rhymes are pretty bad. "I can make you a man" is an example

But "Touch-a, Touch-a, Touch me", featuring a young Susan Saradon in white Panties and Bra  :wub: :wub:

 
Iron Maiden- The Number of the Beast (1982)

Invaders

Children of the Damned

The Prisoner

22 Acacia Avenue

The Number of the Beast 

Run to the Hills

Gangland

Hallowed Be thy Name

When I visited the record store as a teenager in the 80s, I always made a point of checking out the Iron Maiden albums because I loved the artwork on the covers- always so cool and distinctive. I never bought one though because back then the music wasn’t to my taste. Still isn’t, but I admit I kind of like “Run to the Hills”. 

Nonetheless, this record is considered one of the very greatest and most influential heavy metal albums ever, so it deserves discussion here. 
Never heard of it.

 
Rocky Horror Picture Show is good, corny fun, and the soundtrack is great. Almost every song is highly enjoyable. 

Tim Curry is a legend from this movie alone. 

 
Marvin Gaye- What’s Going On (1971) 

What’s Going On

What’s Happening Brother

Flyin’ High (In the Friendly Sky)

Save the Children

God Is Love

Mercy Mercy Me (The Ecology)

Right On

Wholy Holy

Inner City Blues (Makes Me Wanna Holler) 

On the eve of next week’s election, it seems fitting to present one of the most political albums of all time. But as much as the lyrics in these masterful songs deal with the current events of 1971 (crumbling ghettoes, the Vietnam War, the environment,) they remain timeless, thanks to the soulful voice that sings them. Any top ten list of the greatest vocalists in the history of popular music would have to include Marvin Gaye. 

 
There have been a ton of artists who have done political songs well but none did it with the soul and compassion Gaye did. 

 
I've typed until I'm blue in the fingers over the years here about how awesome this album is. 

It's one of the best-sounding records I've ever heard and Gaye's vocals are as good as singing gets. It hasn't dated one iota in the 47 years since its release.

Marvin, who already had a HOF career before this one dropped, said "I felt like I finally learned how to sing" when he recorded it.

 
I love this album front to back and back to front, again and again. One of those albums that marks your maturity when it comes to music - when you realize in your 20's that music is much more than the stuff you listened to as a teenager. 

 
I love Marvin Gaye's What's Going On album.  He didn't back down when Berry Gordy expressed his displeasure of him wanting to make a protest record. He continued to work on this concept he had, and when he played the first single for Gordy,  Gordy told him that he thought the song, "What's Going On'", was the worst thing he had ever heard in his life.  Motowns Quality Control Dept. hated it too.  Gordy refused to release the single, but Harry Balk (who worked for Motown) loved it, and he released 100,000 copies of it behind Gordy's back.  It sold so fast that he released another 100,000, and more and more. It was an instant hit. Gordy changed his tune after he saw it's success, and told Marvin he could finish his concept album if he did it within 30 days, and told him he could produce it too.  To this day, I think it is one of the best records ever recorded. My favorite song on the album is the title track. 

 
I love Marvin Gaye's What's Going On album.  He didn't back down when Berry Gordy expressed his displeasure of him wanting to make a protest record. He continued to work on this concept he had, and when he played the first single for Gordy,  Gordy told him that he thought the song, "What's Going On'", was the worst thing he had ever heard in his life.  Motowns Quality Control Dept. hated it too.  Gordy refused to release the single, but Harry Balk (who worked for Motown) loved it, and he released 100,000 copies of it behind Gordy's back.  It sold so fast that he released another 100,000, and more and more. It was an instant hit. Gordy changed his tune after he saw it's success, and told Marvin he could finish his concept album if he did it within 30 days, and told him he could produce it too.  To this day, I think it is one of the best records ever recorded. My favorite song on the album is the title track. 
Thanks for the information, simey. I'm listening to S&G right now, so I'd appreciate any information you have on them.  

 
Not much to add that my esteemed fellow music worshipers haven't said. Just one of those flawless all-timers. I have a particularly personal fondness for "Mercy Mercy Me (The Ecology)". Ridiculously ahead of its time.

 
Marvin's vocals are double-tracked on the title track, but they weren't meant to be. He did a couple of different takes - one kind of "harder" like his '60s stuff and one more mellow. He was playing around with timing - sometimes ahead of, sometimes on, and sometimes behind the beat.

So, he went to the engineer to have them both played back and see which he'd prefer (or, if he wanted to do another). Apparently, the engineer screwed up and mixed them both together. That's the version that got released and why they don't always synch up.

Along with the echoing percussion, I think that's what gives the song its ethereal feel.

 
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