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Classic Album Discussion Thread: The Kinks-Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Pt. 1 (3 Viewers)

Dr. Octopus said:
In honor of this thread I blasted Led Zepplin II and Boston through my backyard while I was vacuuming my pool this morning.
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Today it was Sticky Fingers and Van Halen while weeding and some other outdoor work.

 
I was a late comer to Bowie, only really getting into him about 10 years ago. It was almost all I listened to for a couple of years. I still can't name my favorite album since they are so different and each fits a different mood. More often than not I would say Low but Ziggy Stardust is hard to beat. I always liked what I heard on the radio and I regret not getting into him when I was younger and getting the chance to see him live. This is the first album in this thread that is in a regular rotation for me. So good...rip.

 
jamny said:
I've started on the Stones from their first album and reading up on it on Wikipedia  as I go along.

What's a really good documentary on them?
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Gimme Shelter is a great chronicle of what happed during the Altamont show, but it doesn’t go into much band history.

HBO out one called Crossfire Hurricane which was pretty good.

 
I go back and forth on whether I prefer Ziggy Stardust or Hunky Dory, but both would be in my Top 20 nevertheless. My favorite is Five Years but it’s great from start to finish. Bowie was a genius songwriter and showman. RIP.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
Gimme Shelter is a great chronicle of what happed during the Altamont show, but it doesn’t go into much band history.

HBO out one called Crossfire Hurricane which was pretty good.
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Seen them both. Both good. Maybe I'll watch Crossfire Hurricane again.

 
timschochet said:
Suffragette City
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I'm not intelligent enough to appreciate Bowie's raised-eyebrow, "my, look at how decadent I am" persona. I'm also not much of a lyric guy when it comes at the expense of singing and playing.

Which is why this is my favorite Bowie rocker. I don't even care what he's singing about, because - for one of the few times in his early career - he didn't give a good ####### and turned his voice loose. That it had a hard time keeping up with that band shows how good THEY were. 

 
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When Bowie died, i was in studio with my last arranger (wow - it's been that long -  - help!) and we immediately put on Ziggy and talked about how historically important Bowie was in terms of being the one who brought out why should it matter wtf you are and maybe you should just get to be whatever the hell that is if you're not a jackhole about it. So i wrote a tribute lyric called "Electric Eye" (from "Moonage Daydream") about Bowie being the god under which people got to kick out their jams whatever they were. My arranger came up with a wonderful set of descending chords (a la "All the Young Dudes" or "Moonage") and we were in business. We were going to finish it next day - John was a guy who worked incredibly stoned and even my social-stoned would eventually get to be too much for me ol' gob - but it was the next morning that i saw the open email on his work computer that showed he had sold some of my work without my knowledge or permission and which immediately blew up our association. Unfortunately, i didnt write out my lyrics in my composition book and couldnt remember much of them or the chords when i got home. I think it would have been a blaster because we were incredibly excited. I havent heard of him doing anything with it - he was a horrible 12yo-like lyricist and i had only written one verse & chorus, so - but i sure would love to hear those takes one more time....

 
My wife got up before me to get ready for work and woke me with the news of Bowie dying. Later that afternoon a friend died in a motorcycle accident. Surreal day. So many emotions.

 
Uruk-Hai said:
timschochet said:
Suffragette City
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I'm not intelligent enough to appreciate Bowie's raised-eyebrow, "my, look at how decadent I am" persona. I'm also not much of a lyric guy when it comes at the expense of singing and playing.

Which is why this is my favorite Bowie rocker. I don't even care what he's singing about, because - for one of the few times in his early career - he didn't give a good ####### and turned his voice loose. That it had a hard time keeping up with that band shows how good THEY were. 

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must be sung loudly as "suck a big #####".  - college age Binky

ETA:  whoa, self-edit. Did not know that the "y" on the end of the female chest area bypasses the language filter.

 
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simey said:
On the desktop, search for The Rolling Stones, Top result shows The Rolling Stones and click that. Scroll down to where you see Albums (under Merch). Straight across from the word Albums you will see on the right side a menu looking icon of three lines and then a cube looking icon beside that. Click the cube.
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Found it...thanks!

I use a tablet whose only function is streaming music plugged into my home theater that goes to speakers in my yard. I have a nice channel setup on Pandora but used Spotify today and didn't realize I can control Spotify on my tablet from the app on my phone while in the yard. So cool!

 
Dr. Octopus said:
In honor of this thread I blasted Led Zepplin II and Boston through my backyard while I was vacuuming my pool this morning.
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This. Ditto. Only I have a Sonos out by the pool and I wanted Zep. Prime does not offer any.

However, on Tune In there is a station called "PR Led Zeppelin" a Polish station. Occasionaly a Polish DJ will say something in Polish but I have been playing this for days now and I've heard live recordings I've never heard before of the Rain Song, Lemon Song and countless others. Great freaking station for non-stop Zep! 

Plus, I've started speaking Polish around the house much to my wife's chagrin.

 
timschochet said:
Moving in a very different direction: 

David Bowie: The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars

Side One

Five Years

Soul Love

Moonage Daydream

Starman

It Ain’t Easy

Side Two

Lady Stardust

Star

Hang on To Yourself

Ziggy Stardust

Suffragette City

Rock and Roll Suicide

The ultimate glam rock album- David Bowie’s crowning achievement (though the album that directly precedes this one should be considered as well, and we will later on.) I don’t think there’s a weak song here. Personal favorite is probably Lady Stardust. It’s really quite paradise. 
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Tim redeems himself.

So many fantastic tunes on this one. My tops are Five Years, Moorage Daydream, Ziggy Stardust and Suffragette City.

 
Ziggy Stardust was way before my time but it's one I enjoy to this day nonetheless. Imo this is Bowie's best but that again is from a person that was a teenager in the 90's. So a little different coming from me than a person that grew up in the 70's. 

Moonage Daydream is my favorite. So many hits though. I remember my parents listening to it a lot in the 80's.

 
shuke said:
Nothing to add to the Meatloaf discussion, other than I found it interesting that at a wedding reception I attended in Cleveland once, when Paradise by the Dashboard Lights came on, everyone ran to the dance floor and lined up in two rows, men facing the women, and sang the different parts of the song to each other. My wife and I had never seen anything like this.  I guess it was a Cleveland thing?

Interesting tidbit on VH's first album cover,
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I went to a wedding in Green Bay, almost 20 years ago now, and the same thing happened.  I remember it because I went with a long time girlfriend who I had recently broken up with.  We weren't dancing together at the time, but hanging in a big group on the dance floor.  When the lines separated, we were both on the end, and the DJ came out and gave us each a mic to sing the male and females parts with.

 
The Who- Who’s Next (1971)

Side One

Baba O’ Riley

Bargain

Love Ain’t For Keeping

My Wife

The Song Is Over

Side Two

Getting In Tune

Going Mobile

Behind Blue Eyes

Won’t Get Fooled Again

Yet another incredible album from the stellar year of 1971. The introduction of the Moog synthesizer changed the sound of this band and in some ways this record can be seen as the dividing line between music of the previous decade and the new music of the 70s. But none of this would matter without Townshend’s songwriting skills, which are at their peak here. Lucky for us his dreams were never as empty as his conscience seemed to be. Favorite song: Getting in Tune. 

 
timschochet said:
The Who- Who’s Next (1971)

Side One

Baba O’ Riley

Bargain

Love Ain’t For Keeping

My Wife

The Song Is Over

Side Two

Getting In Tune

Going Mobile

Behind Blue Eyes

Won’t Get Fooled Again

Yet another incredible album from the stellar year of 1971. The introduction of the Moog synthesizer changed the sound of this band and in some ways this record can be seen as the dividing line between music of the previous decade and the new music of the 70s. But none of this would matter without Townshend’s songwriting skills, which are at their peak here. Lucky for us his dreams were never as empty as his conscience seemed to be. Favorite song: Getting in Tune. 
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I was wondering when we'd get to this great one.  :thumbup:

 
timschochet said:
The Who- Who’s Next (1971)

Side One

Baba O’ Riley

Bargain

Love Ain’t For Keeping

My Wife

The Song Is Over

Side Two

Getting In Tune

Going Mobile

Behind Blue Eyes

Won’t Get Fooled Again

Yet another incredible album from the stellar year of 1971. The introduction of the Moog synthesizer changed the sound of this band and in some ways this record can be seen as the dividing line between music of the previous decade and the new music of the 70s. But none of this would matter without Townshend’s songwriting skills, which are at their peak here. Lucky for us his dreams were never as empty as his conscience seemed to be. Favorite song: Getting in Tune. 
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A perfect album. Not one weak song.  Behind Blues Eyes is an incredible confession to his pedophilia dating back decades before it came to light.  Was it Entwhistle who penned My Wife?  An interesting insertion into the album.  All he did was pick the wrong precinct, got picked up by the law and now he ain't got time to think.

 
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The Who is another group who I have listened to the hits, and used to own a "greatest hits" CD.  Never listened to any of their albums straight through.  Need to add them to the to do list.

 
As i've recounted in these pages before, i have a very distinct relationship to Baba O'Riley. I was a runaway, homeless, hitchhiking away from bad vibes and weather, when this song hit the charts and that loop, coming outta cars and restaurants and windows, was kind of my umbilical to society in those lonely times.

 
timschochet said:
Is this just your interpretation or have you read this somewhere? It’s news to me. 
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It is only my interpretation.  That said, give it a listen, anew, not with powerful past associations to an incredibly powerful and evocative song which may have great personal meaning, as it does for me and most others.  It is a confession.

 
Bull Dozier said:
The Who is another group who I have listened to the hits, and used to own a "greatest hits" CD.  Never listened to any of their albums straight through.  Need to add them to the to do list.
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Listen to this album all the way through. It's their best and it's not really close. I agree with the others here that it is probably the best pure classic rock album ever. It has it all. Serious rockers, introspective ballads, fun playful tunes, big guitar riffs, just a little bit of synth. It's perfect. 

 
Also what is the interpretation of the cover art? They pissed all over the monolith from 2001?  Why? What does it mean? I could see their use of the synth really being the next grand evolution of rock. But why urinate on it?

 
Bull Dozier said:
The Who is another group who I have listened to the hits, and used to own a "greatest hits" CD.  Never listened to any of their albums straight through.  Need to add them to the to do list.
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Who's Next is essentially a greatest hits album. I used Won't Get Fooled Again as an example of an overplayed song (and it is), but the quality of this album is astounding. 

 
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Ditkaless Wonders said:
It is only my interpretation.  That said, give it a listen, anew, not with powerful past associations to an incredibly powerful and evocative song which may have great personal meaning, as it does for me and most others.  It is a confession.
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I think you’re reading to much into this, especially since the song was meant for a character in a musical, Lifehouse. “Uncle Ernie” from the previous album is about pedophilia though. 

 
Ilov80s said:
Listen to this album all the way through. It's their best and it's not really close. I agree with the others here that it is probably the best pure classic rock album ever.
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I prefer Tommy and Quadrophenia (but I'm a sucker for concept albums) - but even with that said I can't necessarily disagree with that last sentence.

 
jwb said:
Who's Next is essentially a greatest hits album. I used Won't Get Fooled Again as an example of an overplayed song (and it is), but the quality of this album is astounding. 
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Yeah many of even the most famous of bands would kill to have a Greatest Hits album as good as this record. 

 
timschochet said:
I think you’re reading to much into this, especially since the song was meant for a character in a musical, Lifehouse. “Uncle Ernie” from the previous album is about pedophilia though. 
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Reading briefly on Wikipedia: he was tempted by a groupie after a concert, but since he was studying under a spiritual adviser, he turned her down and instead wrote the song by himself. 

 
timschochet said:
Well this I disagree with. It’s their best IMO, but it IS pretty close. 
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I like a lot of their other stuff but as was the way of the late 60s and 70s, the band got over self- indulgent and could have really used a strong editor. 

 
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Ilov80s said:
I like a lot of their other stuff but as was the way of the late 60s and 70s, the band got over self- indulgent and could have really used a strong editor. 
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They fell prey to the double album thing while at the same time making a couple of pretty good ones.

 
Ilov80s said:
Also what is the interpretation of the cover art? They pissed all over the monolith from 2001?  Why? What does it mean? I could see their use of the synth really being the next grand evolution of rock. But why urinate on it?
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Probably a symbolic abandonment of the Lifehouse concept that Townsend felt would be pseudo evolutionary.

Or maybe they're just being naughty and subversive.

 
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