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Classic Album Discussion Thread: The Kinks-Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Pt. 1 (3 Viewers)

Fleetwood Mac- Rumours (1977)

Side One

Second Hand News

Dreams

Never Going Back Again

Don’t Stop 

Go Your Own Way

Songbird

Side Two

The Chain

You Make Loving Fun

I Don’t Want to Know

Oh Daddy

Gold Dust Woman

Almost a soft rock greatest hits album of the late 70s. The introduction of Americans Stevie Nicks and Lindsay Buckingham on the previous album changed the nature of this formerly British blues band (and by the way, they were a very good blues band, especially when they featured Peter Green.) The other factor, besides the two yanks, was Christine McVie’s development as a songwriter of very accessible pop melodies. I’m not sure which album is better between this one and Fleetwood Mac, but this one is the (slightly) more famous with (slightly) better hits, so I chose it for now. 

To the music: it’s timeless. There’s not a weak song on the record. All 3 songwriters, McVie, Buckingham, and Nicks are at the top of their game. A truly flawless album that deserves all the praise it has always received. 
I agree that this is basically a flawless album. And its all the more amazing when you consider what was going on in the band.

ETA: How the hell can Fleetwood Mac tour without Lindsey Buckingham?

 
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I agree that this is basically a flawless album. And its all the more amazing when you consider what was going on in the band.

ETA: How the hell can Fleetwood Mac tour without Lindsey Buckingham?
They’ve done it before. I saw them in 1990 without Buckingham (though since it was in LA, he showed up for an encore.) 

 
Rumours is still in the top 100 on billboard chart at 90.  Pretty good for an album released in 1977.  Oh and I loved Stevie Nicks then and still do.

 
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To me, Fleetwood Mac is similar to the Eagles in that their widespread mainstream appeal is more than obvious, which explains their enduring popularity.  I don't genuflect to Rumours like many do, but it's still a good record.  I was never a fan of a few of the songs on this record until I heard the live versions on The Dance in the late 90's.  They were a bit too soft rock here, but had a little more oomph live. 

 
Lindsey Buckingham was a worthy successor to Peter Green and Bob Welch, both of whose music i dearly loved. Stevie Nicks is a singular talent and a great songwriter. But Chris McVie is Toni Tenille as far as i'm concerned and her contributions make Fleetwood Mac albums as unlistenable as their best songs are ultralistenable.

 
I was wondering when we’d get to Rumours.

Not much else to say, but sheer brilliance. Among the inner pantheon of all time great albums. The palpable tension among all the band members gave a biting edge that made it so much more than a great pop album.

Favorite cut: “Gold Dust Woman”

If it’s even possible, the album could have been even better had “Silver Springs” not been left off it: https://youtu.be/6s2je2wDllY

 
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I agree that this is basically a flawless album. And its all the more amazing when you consider what was going on in the band.

ETA: How the hell can Fleetwood Mac tour without Lindsey Buckingham?
Totally agree. Like Who's Next, it's perfect classic rock from start to finish.

 
cannot and will not ever understand the love for anything Fleetwood Mac , they're just absolutely horrible..whenever I hear the sad sappy voices singing their ABBA-like songs I immediately rush to turn the station or turn off the radio..the coolest thing about Tusk is/was the video other than that it's a complete waste of time.

F. Mac is up there with Brian Adams as the worst music ever made. I respect people who like either artist, it takes a level of intestinal fortitude to withstand Buckingham's  guitar sounds, Adams' whiny voice and cheesy songs.but F. Mac should never have an album included in a best ever rock albums list, EVER

I like the other bands listed in the OPs album list, Boston was a bit glam.. I'd add:

Van Halen Fair Warning

Black Sabbath Vol 4

Iron Maiden Killers

Juda Priest Sad Wings of Destiny

fleewood mac..sheesh.. :sleep:

 
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Late to the party but '157 Riverside Ave." live, kicks ###
A song near and dear to my heart. I grew up in the town the song talks about. They lived there when recording their first album. I was a little kid at the time. I ended up going to school right next to the house. 

 
To me, Fleetwood Mac is similar to the Eagles in that their widespread mainstream appeal is more than obvious, which explains their enduring popularity.  I don't genuflect to Rumours like many do, but it's still a good record.  I was never a fan of a few of the songs on this record until I heard the live versions on The Dance in the late 90's.  They were a bit too soft rock here, but had a little more oomph live. 
With low expectations I took a nephew to see them at a sweet San Diego Venue, Humphreys by the Bay, late 90s maybe early 00s. But the oomph live was real good, mostly Lyndsey. Similar to the Eagles in this way too, btw. Saw them live on the last tour for a girlfriend who loves them and the last 40 minutes was just Joe Joe and more Joe. I loved it. Funny line from Henley after Life's Been Good. He walks out from the drum kit shaking his head and says, "F you Walsh. Every night I have to follow that." Mick says something similar after a ridiculously raucous 4 minute solo of Lyndsey's after Don't Stop. You get none of this on the radio or from the studio. Hmm, just thought of another. When you're 14 and getting into new music that's  rebellious compared to your parents stuff, it's a little disappointing when they like it. Mine liked Rumors and Eagles Greatest and that's about it. 

I prefer the 2nd eponymous FM album that preceded Rumors. The world wasn't ready for Stevie when this happened. You have to wait for the oomph but it's worth it because everybody falls in love with Stevie in the process. Well, I just did again. 

 
Lindsey Buckingham was a worthy successor to Peter Green and Bob Welch, both of whose music i dearly loved. Stevie Nicks is a singular talent and a great songwriter. But Chris McVie is Toni Tenille as far as i'm concerned and her contributions make Fleetwood Mac albums as unlistenable as their best songs are ultralistenable.
I would have disagreed with that first statement if not for seeing him live.

 
Fm were an interesting band because of all the different lineups. Peter green and Bob Welch along the way and then the huge version that made their most popular albums. Overplayed but still something.

 
My friend, that's generational, and baldly so. 
Yeah, I just knew obviously that there were some women in the band and saw someone in the band was named Lindsey. I did know who Stevie Nix was so at least I knew that was a woman and not a man. 

 
Eh, no big deal aside from him dating Stevie Nicks. Nice band dynamic. I hate Fleetwood, btw. Still listening to American Beauty.  

 
Peter Green deservedly gets most of the credit for the early days, but Danny Kirwan and Jeremy Spencer deserve some props, too. That was a massive guitar trio for the brief time they were together.

 
Can't help about the shape I'm in
I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to


Now, when I talked to God, I knew He'd understand
He said, "Stick by me and I'll be your guiding hand
But don't ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to"
Oh........well


 
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With low expectations I took a nephew to see them at a sweet San Diego Venue, Humphreys by the Bay, late 90s maybe early 00s. But the oomph live was real good, mostly Lyndsey. Similar to the Eagles in this way too, btw. Saw them live on the last tour for a girlfriend who loves them and the last 40 minutes was just Joe Joe and more Joe. I loved it. Funny line from Henley after Life's Been Good. He walks out from the drum kit shaking his head and says, "F you Walsh. Every night I have to follow that." Mick says something similar after a ridiculously raucous 4 minute solo of Lyndsey's after Don't Stop. You get none of this on the radio or from the studio. Hmm, just thought of another. When you're 14 and getting into new music that's  rebellious compared to your parents stuff, it's a little disappointing when they like it. Mine liked Rumors and Eagles Greatest and that's about it. 

I prefer the 2nd eponymous FM album that preceded Rumors. The world wasn't ready for Stevie when this happened. You have to wait for the oomph but it's worth it because everybody falls in love with Stevie in the process. Well, I just did again. 
:wub:         Wow...thanks for posting this. Somewhere sitting there on a mat is a skinny, zit faced kid.

Also saw them Dec 1979 at the LA Forum. Probably the most drunk  :banned: I've ever been at concert. Good times.

 
Fleetwood Mac- Rumours (1977)

Side One

Second Hand News

Dreams

Never Going Back Again

Don’t Stop 

Go Your Own Way

Songbird

Side Two

The Chain

You Make Loving Fun

I Don’t Want to Know

Oh Daddy

Gold Dust Woman

Almost a soft rock greatest hits album of the late 70s. The introduction of Americans Stevie Nicks and Lindsay Buckingham on the previous album changed the nature of this formerly British blues band (and by the way, they were a very good blues band, especially when they featured Peter Green.) The other factor, besides the two yanks, was Christine McVie’s development as a songwriter of very accessible pop melodies. I’m not sure which album is better between this one and Fleetwood Mac, but this one is the (slightly) more famous with (slightly) better hits, so I chose it for now. 

To the music: it’s timeless. There’s not a weak song on the record. All 3 songwriters, McVie, Buckingham, and Nicks are at the top of their game. A truly flawless album that deserves all the praise it has always received. 
I love this album and I love Stevie Nicks.

 
One of the more interesting jobs had to have been stevies  coke  applicator.
I had a major crush on Stevie, not unusual for a young man in those days.  A good buddy from work knew about my crush and told me he was Stevie's cousin and maybe some day he could introduce me.  I figured he was playing me.

Move forward to Christmas, 1977 or 8, I do not remember now. I swing by his place Christmas morning.  I am picking him up for work.  He tells me to come inside for a minute.  I do, figuring maybe his folks want to wish me a Merry Christmas before we head off. (Jewish Country Club that paid triple time on Christmas).  There, in the living room, with bed hair and in a set of one piece pajamas with feet and a butt flap was cousin Stevie.  I was dumbfounded.  She sort of dug that and was flirtatious.  I did not want to leave. Damn she looked good with bed hair in the morning.

 
I had a major crush on Stevie, not unusual for a young man in those days.  A good buddy from work knew about my crush and told me he was Stevie's cousin and maybe some day he could introduce me.  I figured he was playing me.

Move forward to Christmas, 1977 or 8, I do not remember now. I swing by his place Christmas morning.  I am picking him up for work.  He tells me to come inside for a minute.  I do, figuring maybe his folks want to wish me a Merry Christmas before we head off. (Jewish Country Club that paid triple time on Christmas).  There, in the living room, with bed hair and in a set of one piece pajamas with feet and a butt flap was cousin Stevie.  I was dumbfounded.  She sort of dug that and was flirtatious.  I did not want to leave. Damn she looked good with bed hair in the morning.
damn I know what I am thinking about the next time I get an orange dot or blue dot or whatever color they are.

 
Totally agree.  I prefer Bon Scott's vocals but for ACDC to put out an album of this magnitude just after Scott's death is amazing.  The guitar sound and riffs are outstanding.  I am a guitar driven listener and this album delivers.  I listened to this album way too much in Jr high and high school and never listen to the album any longer but I love when I hear Back in Black or Shoot to Thrill.  This album blared in the HS weight room almost daily and was in my ears for probably hundreds of workouts over the years.  

ACDC does get old after a while though.  It is great that they stuck with what works for them but I didn't buy many ACDC albums after Back in Black.    

Angus credited Chuck Berry as a big influence and you can hear that influence a ton in Angus's solos.  Other heavy metal musicians then credit Angus for being a big influence.  Scott Not Ian (Anthrax) cites Malcolm as a big influence so the whole hard rock vs. metal discussion seems silly to me.  Anthrax seems metal but were influenced by a hard rock band based on the blues.  Most bands probably do not care what genre they fall.  
I bought For This About To Rock We Salute You (the follow up to back In Black) and never bought another AC/DC album again.

I also prefer Bon Scott on Vocals.....but this was the best AC/DC album ever made. I also played the living crap out of it for years. But I can still listen to it front to back from time to time when I am in that mood.

 
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Leroy Hoard said:
Not to pile on Rod,but any quality tune he ever did seemed to be more related to bandmates like Jeff beck or Ronnie wood.
I thought Wood actually wrote Maggie May, but I can't find a source.

 
Leroy Hoard said:
Not to pile on Rod,but any quality tune he ever did seemed to be more related to bandmates like Jeff beck or Ronnie wood.
I thought Wood actually wrote Maggie May, but I can't find a source.
Not that Wiki is 100% accurate, but...

"Maggie May" is a song co-written with Martin Quittenton and performed by singer Rod Stewart from his album Every Picture Tells a Story, released in 1971.
 
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Rod wrote almost everything in the 70s.  He did write MM.  He also wrote Hot Legs, Blondes, Baby Jane, Do Ya Think I'm Sexy, Gasoline Alley, Young Turks, Stay With Me, and several of his 80s hits too.  Around the 90s he reinvented himself as a widely successful crooner doing covers, for whatever reason.  

 
Rod wrote almost everything in the 70s.  He did write MM.  He also wrote Hot Legs, Blondes, Baby Jane, Do Ya Think I'm Sexy, Gasoline Alley, Young Turks, Stay With Me, and several of his 80s hits too.  Around the 90s he reinvented himself as a widely successful crooner doing covers, for whatever reason.  
The day before his show in San Diego 2001, I get a call from a bartender where I was having daily happy hours after work. He tells me to get over there quick. I do. Rod Stewart is having dinner in this dark and smokey cigar bar to avoid the somewhat famous attached restaurant. What's cool is he's animated and talking like a regular to a dozen patrons. The topic of his covers comes up and a guy explains that it's his wife's favorite stuff, and she always harbored this weird thought that he would crush covers of Diana Ross and The Supremes. He cocked his head curiously and sang the beginning of Come See About Me. 

I've been crying
'Cause I'm lonely (for you)
Smiles have all turned to tears
But tears won't wash away the fears
That you're never ever gonna return
To ease the fire that within me burns

It keeps me crying baby for you
Keeps me sighin' baby for you
So won't you hurry
Come on boy, see about me
(Come see about me)
See about your baby

The two guys he was with (and the rest of us) were clapping and praising. It was ridiculously good. Think about those songs and Rod's delivery. He sang a little Where Did Our Love Go, Someday We'll Be Together and refused to do Baby Love. All of this between bites of his dinner. Before leaving he told the guy his wife was right. She was.

 
But in terms of giving credit to a songwriter, I think arrangement is important. My understanding is that Ron Wood arranged “Maggie May” and much of that album. 

 
Fleetwood Mac- Rumours (1977)

Side One

Second Hand News

Dreams

Never Going Back Again

Don’t Stop 

Go Your Own Way

Songbird

Side Two

The Chain

You Make Loving Fun

I Don’t Want to Know

Oh Daddy

Gold Dust Woman

Almost a soft rock greatest hits album of the late 70s. The introduction of Americans Stevie Nicks and Lindsay Buckingham on the previous album changed the nature of this formerly British blues band (and by the way, they were a very good blues band, especially when they featured Peter Green.) The other factor, besides the two yanks, was Christine McVie’s development as a songwriter of very accessible pop melodies. I’m not sure which album is better between this one and Fleetwood Mac, but this one is the (slightly) more famous with (slightly) better hits, so I chose it for now. 

To the music: it’s timeless. There’s not a weak song on the record. All 3 songwriters, McVie, Buckingham, and Nicks are at the top of their game. A truly flawless album that deserves all the praise it has always received. 
All time classic, and one of my favorite albums.  Not only that, but they had the greatest "Behind the Music" episode ever.

 
Rod wrote almost everything in the 70s.  He did write MM.  He also wrote Hot Legs, Blondes, Baby Jane, Do Ya Think I'm Sexy, Gasoline Alley, Young Turks, Stay With Me, and several of his 80s hits too.  Around the 90s he reinvented himself as a widely successful crooner doing covers, for whatever reason.  
:moneybag: :moneybag:

 
Rod wrote almost everything in the 70s.  He did write MM.  He also wrote Hot Legs, Blondes, Baby Jane, Do Ya Think I'm Sexy, Gasoline Alley, Young Turks, Stay With Me, and several of his 80s hits too.  Around the 90s he reinvented himself as a widely successful crooner doing covers, for whatever reason.  
Some other well known 70s songs Rod wrote are Tonights the Night, You're in My Heart (The Final Acclaim), The Killing of Georgie Part l and ll, and Mandolin Wind. He co-wrote You Wear It Well, and I Was Only Joking.

I like Rod Stewart, and think his Every Picture Tells a Story album is very good. I've always liked listening to Rod in interviews. He is a funny guy, and doesn't take himself too seriously.

 
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I think Rumours is another one of those albums that is great from start to finish. What a talented ensemble of men and women in a band. I think their music stands up well today. 

 
Some other well known 70s songs Rod wrote are Tonights the Night, You're in My Heart (The Final Acclaim), The Killing of Georgie Part l and ll, and Mandolin Wind. He co-wrote You Wear It Well, and I Was Only Joking.
He also had some good moments in the ‘80s. Most think of it as pure cheese, but I’ve always had a soft spot for “Passion”.

Killer bass work by the diminutive Phil Chen, who played with Rod for a stretch as well as with Rod’s old buddy Jeff Beck on his classic Blow By Blow album (among other credits)

 
I think what I am learning in this thread is that I needed Spotify back in my high school/college days, because I overplayed so much of this "classic rock" I can't listen to most of it anymore.  I had Rod Stewarts greatest hits as one of the CDs in my car, and wore it out.  Today, if Rod Stewart comes on, I can't change the station fast enough. I would never purposefully choose to listen to any songs of his.

 
I think Rumours is another one of those albums that is great from start to finish. What a talented ensemble of men and women in a band. I think their music stands up well today. 
I liked the side boob action on the Buckingham/Nicks album cover.  Also a pretty solid album musically.

 
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Rumors is a great album, both sides are highly listenable. You Make Loving Fun to me is the best track, and it's the second track on side 2. The Chain is also pretty great.

 
He also had some good moments in the ‘80s. Most think of it as pure cheese, but I’ve always had a soft spot for “Passion”.

Killer bass work by the diminutive Phil Chen, who played with Rod for a stretch as well as with Rod’s old buddy Jeff Beck on his classic Blow By Blow album (among other credits)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC_j_dzkaVE

My favorite Curtis Mayfield cover, originally written in 1965.

Songfacts ®

Aretha Franklin, Maria Muldaur, The Walker Brothers and Eva Cassidy are among the artists to cover this song. In 1985, Jeff Beck and Rod Stewart did a version that made #48 in the US.
After Curtis Mayfield was paralyzed in 1990 (a light rig fell on him, crushing three vertebrae), royalties from this song - especially the Rod Stewart version - helped keep him financially sound, which he credited for helping him fend off depression and remain active as a songwriter and singer despite his condition.

 

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