Coast Guard searching for missing boat w/NFL players aboard (1 Viewer)

[QUEZILLA]

This is a 21 ft center boat.

With the weight of the men on that boat and 7 foot swells? Not good.

If it was a Whaler, like the one in the pic, it would still be floating. Any other 21 foot boat in rough seas with 4 big men is a bad situation. This happens about once a year around here, and the news usually isn't good. When i was little some kid on my soccer teams dad disappeared on a fishing trip.

I can't hold this... just makes me think of when I met Corey w/ K-Rob, B-Jam, Ray-Rob, and Willie. We were sitting here in Raleigh after the Indiana game back in the day, talking about the "young buck" QB, Philip Rivers... small world, brothers. I hope and pray...

Not to be a penis but who in the hell are you talking about?

I guess B-Bop and Rocksteady couldn't make it.

 

[gump]

Terrible reporting.

first i've heard of this, but PFT is reporting that the search has been called off..."A source with knowledge of the tragic situation that has unfolded over the past two days in Florida tells us that the authorities have called off the search for a 21-foot fishing boat carrying two NFL players.

Wrong.

We’re told that the boat left from Seminole, not Clearwater, and followed the Intercoastal Waterway.

Wrong again.

 

[the branded hand]

This is a 21 ft center boat.

With the weight of the men on that boat and 7 foot swells? Not good.

If it was a Whaler, like the one in the pic, it would still be floating. Any other 21 foot boat in rough seas with 4 big men is a bad situation. This happens about once a year around here, and the news usually isn't good. When i was little some kid on my soccer teams dad disappeared on a fishing trip.

I can't hold this... just makes me think of when I met Corey w/ K-Rob, B-Jam, Ray-Rob, and Willie. We were sitting here in Raleigh after the Indiana game back in the day, talking about the "young buck" QB, Philip Rivers... small world, brothers. I hope and pray...

Not to be a penis but who in the hell are you talking about?

Sorry... Koren Robinson, Brian Jaimeson, Ray Robinson, and Willie Wright. Old college team mates of Corey's at N.C. State.

 

[captbly]

Former Detroit Lions defensive lineman Corey Smith and three friends, who went on a fishing trip in the Gulf of Mexico, have been missing since Saturday evening but the Coast Guard remains hopeful they can be found. According to a report on MSNBC, the Coast Guard is operating on the theory that the men are still on the boat or, at least, still with it.

The boat manufacturer, according to the report, said that even if the boat capsized, it would not sink. Because the Coast Guard has yet to find any sign of the boat, the belief is that they haven't searched the proper area yet. The Coast Guard is widening its search and MSNBC said they are using "considerable resources'' to find the men.

Lions spokesman Bill Keenist, speaking to MSNBC, said: "The information we're getting is the weather is much more conducive today for a hopeful recovery so we're very thankful the conditions have improved.''

 

[T Bell]

Terrible reporting.

first i've heard of this, but PFT is reporting that the search has been called off..."A source with knowledge of the tragic situation that has unfolded over the past two days in Florida tells us that the authorities have called off the search for a 21-foot fishing boat carrying two NFL players.

Wrong.

We’re told that the boat left from Seminole, not Clearwater, and followed the Intercoastal Waterway.

Wrong again.

I think my new hobby is going to be crank calling Mike Florio and feeding him bad information about real news stories.

 

[Bob Magaw]

Terrible reporting.

first i've heard of this, but PFT is reporting that the search has been called off..."A source with knowledge of the tragic situation that has unfolded over the past two days in Florida tells us that the authorities have called off the search for a 21-foot fishing boat carrying two NFL players.

i posted above report from PFT when i saw it at 10:58 PM... without issuing a formal retraction, the site posted a report that the search hadn't been called off about 12:19... i would have noted this, but somebody else beat me to it in about the same time frame (about an hour after original post, late sun night, early mon morning... thanx for the correction...

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

I think my new hobby is going to be crank calling Mike Florio and feeding him bad information about real news stories.

Make sure to send him emails from a compelling address, such as source@knowledgeofthesituation.com

 

[T Bell]

I think my new hobby is going to be crank calling Mike Florio and feeding him bad information about real news stories.

Make sure to send him emails from a compelling address, such as source@knowledgeofthesituation.com

"I see OJ! He be lookin' nervous! . . ."

 

[Flyin Pigs]

Fox News reporting that Coast Guard has found a boat overturned. One survivor floating. Just a quick newsbreak...nothing more than that speculation right now

EDIT to ADD: about 30 miles off west coast of FL. One person clinging to overturned boat. No confirmation from CG that this is the players yet...

 

[Chachi]

Terrible reporting.

first i've heard of this, but PFT is reporting that the search has been called off..."A source with knowledge of the tragic situation that has unfolded over the past two days in Florida tells us that the authorities have called off the search for a 21-foot fishing boat carrying two NFL players.

i posted above report from PFT when i saw it at 10:58 PM... without issuing a formal retraction, the site posted a report that the search hadn't been called off about 12:19... i would have noted this, but somebody else beat me to it in about the same time frame (about an hour after original post, late sun night, early mon morning... thanx for the correction...

Why anyone would read PFT when CNN, MSN and FoxNews is available for this story is strange.

 

[identikit]

Terrible reporting.

first i've heard of this, but PFT is reporting that the search has been called off..."A source with knowledge of the tragic situation that has unfolded over the past two days in Florida tells us that the authorities have called off the search for a 21-foot fishing boat carrying two NFL players.

i posted above report from PFT when i saw it at 10:58 PM... without issuing a formal retraction, the site posted a report that the search hadn't been called off about 12:19... i would have noted this, but somebody else beat me to it in about the same time frame (about an hour after original post, late sun night, early mon morning... thanx for the correction...

Why anyone would read PFT when CNN, MSN and FoxNews is available for this story is strange.

Sure is....

 

[biggamer3]

Fox News reporting that Coast Guard has found a boat overturned. One survivor floating. Just a quick newsbreak...nothing more than that speculation right now

just heard this on ESPN, any survivors at this point is a miracle

 

[GregR_2]

Fox News reporting that Coast Guard has found a boat overturned. One survivor floating. Just a quick newsbreak...nothing more than that speculation right nowEDIT to ADD: about 30 miles off west coast of FL. One person clinging to overturned boat. No confirmation from CG that this is the players yet...

Confirmed on their website and on CNN now.Let's hope everyone on board had on life jackets and they find the others soon.

 

[azgroover]

sptimes.com is speculating that the survivor is Nick Schuyler.

 

[Revo]

12:27: Nick Schuyler is the boater who has been found, according to the cousin of Marquis Cooper, Ray Sanchez, who is at the Clearwater boat ramp where the men were last seen and has been getting updates from family. He was found 38 miles west of Tampa Bay alive and clinging to a boat, Sanchez said.

The Coast Guard cutter Tornado found the boat and dispatched a smaller boat to rescue him.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article980435.ece

 

[fatness]

Family members told FOX News Nick Schuyler was found clinging to the boat about 30 miles off shore. FOX News also reports the other three men were wearing life jackets, and the Coast Guard is searching for them.

"It's a relief that they found somebody and that they found a boat. That gives us a lot of time." Marquis Cooper's cousin Ray Sanchez. "They're gonna find my cousin. That's all I know. He's a great swimmer, they've got vests so I know that man's gonnna be fine."

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/boaters_rescue_030209

 

[gump]

It's still cool this morning...but the sun is beaming and the wind is down.

 

[SofaKings]

Unbelievable!!!

 

[Rebirtha]

I think my new hobby is going to be crank calling Mike Florio and feeding him bad information about real news stories.

Make sure to send him emails from a compelling address, such as source@knowledgeofthesituation.com

"I see OJ! He be lookin' nervous! . . ."

:IBTL:

 

[fatness]

Update, 1:10 p.m. ET: Nick Schuyler is conscious and talking, his father, Stu, tells the St. Petersburg Times. The paper and WTSP report Schuyler is headed to Tampa General Hospital.

Update, 1:14 p.m. ET: WTSP reports that Schuyler told the Coast Guard the other three men on the boat had their life vests on when he last saw them.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/thehuddle/2009/0...y-member-c.html (which is being actively updated)

 

[Two Deep]

12:27: Nick Schuyler is the boater who has been found, according to the cousin of Marquis Cooper, Ray Sanchez, who is at the Clearwater boat ramp where the men were last seen and has been getting updates from family. He was found 38 miles west of Tampa Bay alive and clinging to a boat, Sanchez said.

The Coast Guard cutter Tornado found the boat and dispatched a smaller boat to rescue him.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article980435.ece

hopefully he can fill them in on what happened to the others.

 

[SofaKings]

12:27: Nick Schuyler is the boater who has been found, according to the cousin of Marquis Cooper, Ray Sanchez, who is at the Clearwater boat ramp where the men were last seen and has been getting updates from family. He was found 38 miles west of Tampa Bay alive and clinging to a boat, Sanchez said.

The Coast Guard cutter Tornado found the boat and dispatched a smaller boat to rescue him.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article980435.ece

hopefully he can fill them in on what happened to the others.

I hope the CG remembers to ask him about them.

 

[gump]

Schuyler just landed in the helicopter.

 

[gump]

Schuyler just landed in the helicopter.

Live footage now...he looks to be in pretty good shape.Schuyler also is saying the other 3 had life vests on.

 

[Two Deep]

12:27: Nick Schuyler is the boater who has been found, according to the cousin of Marquis Cooper, Ray Sanchez, who is at the Clearwater boat ramp where the men were last seen and has been getting updates from family. He was found 38 miles west of Tampa Bay alive and clinging to a boat, Sanchez said.

The Coast Guard cutter Tornado found the boat and dispatched a smaller boat to rescue him.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article980435.ece

hopefully he can fill them in on what happened to the others.

I hope the CG remembers to ask him about them.

Are you taking a shot at me or the Coast Guard?

 

[biggamer3]

wow, how did he not get frost bite or whatever from being in water over 24 hours?

 

[SofaKings]

12:27: Nick Schuyler is the boater who has been found, according to the cousin of Marquis Cooper, Ray Sanchez, who is at the Clearwater boat ramp where the men were last seen and has been getting updates from family. He was found 38 miles west of Tampa Bay alive and clinging to a boat, Sanchez said.

The Coast Guard cutter Tornado found the boat and dispatched a smaller boat to rescue him.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article980435.ece

hopefully he can fill them in on what happened to the others.

I hope the CG remembers to ask him about them.

Are you taking a shot at me or the Coast Guard?

You.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

wow, how did he not get frost bite or whatever from being in water over 24 hours?

I believe this is in the Gulf of Mexico, where the water is probably in the 70s.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

12:27: Nick Schuyler is the boater who has been found, according to the cousin of Marquis Cooper, Ray Sanchez, who is at the Clearwater boat ramp where the men were last seen and has been getting updates from family. He was found 38 miles west of Tampa Bay alive and clinging to a boat, Sanchez said.

The Coast Guard cutter Tornado found the boat and dispatched a smaller boat to rescue him.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article980435.ece

hopefully he can fill them in on what happened to the others.

I hope the CG remembers to ask him about them.

Are you taking a shot at me or the Coast Guard?

You.

why?

 

[SofaKings]

wow, how did he not get frost bite or whatever from being in water over 24 hours?

I believe this is in the Gulf of Mexico, where the water is probably in the 70s.

Someone pointed out yesterday that it was 67.

 

[fatness]

Update, 1:25 p.m. ET: WTSP said Nick Schuyler has landed at Tampa General Hospital. The station described him as alert with his eyes open. A photographer asked how Schuyler was doing, and he replied "all right."

http://blogs.usatoday.com/thehuddle/2009/0...y-member-c.html

 

[Dreamer]

wow, how did he not get frost bite or whatever from being in water over 24 hours?

I believe this is in the Gulf of Mexico, where the water is probably in the 70s.

Someone pointed out yesterday that it was 67.

I did, it may have been 10 degrees cooler where he was found today. Survivable, hopefully the other guys kept their heads up.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

wow, how did he not get frost bite or whatever from being in water over 24 hours?

hypothermia...and it is a real possiblity. Also, hopefully they were wearing the big orange lifevests because the smaller fishing ones don't work as well for survival...

 

[fatness]

Survivable, hopefully the other guys kept their heads up.

Aren't there certain kinds of lifevests that, if someone is unconscious, tend to float them in a position with the face out of the water?

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

wow, how did he not get frost bite or whatever from being in water over 24 hours?

I believe this is in the Gulf of Mexico, where the water is probably in the 70s.

Someone pointed out yesterday that it was 67.

I guess you can become hypothermic even in 80 degree water over time.Wiki -

Water temperatures that would be quite reasonable as outdoor air temperatures can lead to hypothermia very quickly. For example, a water temperature of 10°C (50 F) can be expected to lead to death in approximately 1 hour, and water temperatures hovering at freezing can lead to death in as little as 15 minutes. [6] On the other end of the scale, in water even a temperature as high as 26°C (80 F) may eventually (after many hours) lead to mild hypothermia. [7]

Alcohol consumption prior to cold exposure may increase one's risk of becoming hypothermic. Alcohol acts as a vasodilator, increasing blood flow to the body's extremities, thereby increasing heat loss.[8] Ironically, this may cause the victim to feel warm while he or she is rapidly losing heat to the surrounding environment.

The United States Coast Guard promotes using life vests as a method of protection against hypothermia through the 50/50/50 rule: If someone is in 50-degree water for 50 minutes, he/she has a 50 percent better chance of survival if wearing a life jacket.[9]

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I have to admit....upon hearing this news...my very first thought was "Gawd...I hope Calvin Johnson was not on that boat. It would be a bigtime hit to both of my keepers league teams".

No you dont, thats the type of thing you should keep to yourself.

Yeah...it was a horrible first thought. I normally monitor the Coast Guard website so I can fret over missing boats carrying people that I do not know. It will be a tragedy IF IF IF anything bad has happened to these players.....but it would be the same tragedy if your normal John Doe off the street was in the same situation (and I give those headlines no more than a quick glance).

So i guess it would be a bigger tragedy if your keepers were on the boat?

If you don't think that NFL Gms were thinking the same thing as they clicked on a "3 nfl players lost at sea" link you are kidding yourself.Now his is a much smaller interest, but that's the "business" side of this.

That said I hope they are fine. I mean you have to think they are in peak physical condition.

 

[Two Deep]

12:27: Nick Schuyler is the boater who has been found, according to the cousin of Marquis Cooper, Ray Sanchez, who is at the Clearwater boat ramp where the men were last seen and has been getting updates from family. He was found 38 miles west of Tampa Bay alive and clinging to a boat, Sanchez said.

The Coast Guard cutter Tornado found the boat and dispatched a smaller boat to rescue him.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article980435.ece

hopefully he can fill them in on what happened to the others.

I hope the CG remembers to ask him about them.

Are you taking a shot at me or the Coast Guard?

You.

So you don't think it is possible that he doesn't know what happened to the others? I mean I'm sure he was awake and alert the entire 48 hours.

 

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Press Conference at 3 PM.

 

[GregR_2]

wow, how did he not get frost bite or whatever from being in water over 24 hours?

I believe this is in the Gulf of Mexico, where the water is probably in the 70s.

Someone pointed out yesterday that it was 67.

I guess you can become hypothermic even in 80 degree water over time.Wiki -

Water temperatures that would be quite reasonable as outdoor air temperatures can lead to hypothermia very quickly. For example, a water temperature of 10°C (50 F) can be expected to lead to death in approximately 1 hour, and water temperatures hovering at freezing can lead to death in as little as 15 minutes. [6] On the other end of the scale, in water even a temperature as high as 26°C (80 F) may eventually (after many hours) lead to mild hypothermia. [7]

Alcohol consumption prior to cold exposure may increase one's risk of becoming hypothermic. Alcohol acts as a vasodilator, increasing blood flow to the body's extremities, thereby increasing heat loss.[8] Ironically, this may cause the victim to feel warm while he or she is rapidly losing heat to the surrounding environment.

The United States Coast Guard promotes using life vests as a method of protection against hypothermia through the 50/50/50 rule: If someone is in 50-degree water for 50 minutes, he/she has a 50 percent better chance of survival if wearing a life jacket.[9]

I was just googling the same topic. Found the following with more of a temperature break down:

The United States Search and Rescue Task Force has a risk list for when hypothermia might set in if you are submersed in water:

Water temperature: 32 degrees or below

Time until exhaustion or unconsciousness: Less than 15 minutes

Expected time of survival in the water: Less than 15 to 45 minutes

Water temperature: 32.5 to 40 degrees

Time until exhaustion or unconsciousness: 15 to 30 minutes

Expected time of survival in the water: 30 to 90 minutes

Water temperature: 40 to 50 degrees

Time until exhaustion or unconsciousness: 30 to 60 minutes

Expected time of survival in the water: 1 to 3 hours

Water temperature: 50 to 60 degrees

Time until exhaustion or unconsciousness: 1 to 2 hours

Expected time of survival in the water: 1 to 6 hours

Water temperature: 60 to 70 degrees

Time until exhaustion or unconsciousness: 2 to 7 hours

Expected time of survival in the water: 2 to 40 hours

Water temperature: 70 to 80 degrees

Time until exhaustion or unconsciousness: 3 to 12 hours

Expected time of survival in the water: 3 hours to indefinite

People can survive indefinitely in water temperatures above 80 degrees.

People have survived longer or shorter periods of time than outlined on this list. These are estimates.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

wow, how did he not get frost bite or whatever from being in water over 24 hours?

I believe this is in the Gulf of Mexico, where the water is probably in the 70s.

Someone pointed out yesterday that it was 67.

I guess you can become hypothermic even in 80 degree water over time.Wiki -

Water temperatures that would be quite reasonable as outdoor air temperatures can lead to hypothermia very quickly. For example, a water temperature of 10°C (50 F) can be expected to lead to death in approximately 1 hour, and water temperatures hovering at freezing can lead to death in as little as 15 minutes. [6] On the other end of the scale, in water even a temperature as high as 26°C (80 F) may eventually (after many hours) lead to mild hypothermia. [7]

Alcohol consumption prior to cold exposure may increase one's risk of becoming hypothermic. Alcohol acts as a vasodilator, increasing blood flow to the body's extremities, thereby increasing heat loss.[8] Ironically, this may cause the victim to feel warm while he or she is rapidly losing heat to the surrounding environment.

The United States Coast Guard promotes using life vests as a method of protection against hypothermia through the 50/50/50 rule: If someone is in 50-degree water for 50 minutes, he/she has a 50 percent better chance of survival if wearing a life jacket.[9]

I was just googling the same topic. Found the following with more of a temperature break down:

The United States Search and Rescue Task Force has a risk list for when hypothermia might set in if you are submersed in water:

Water temperature: 32 degrees or below

Time until exhaustion or unconsciousness: Less than 15 minutes

Expected time of survival in the water: Less than 15 to 45 minutes

Water temperature: 32.5 to 40 degrees

Time until exhaustion or unconsciousness: 15 to 30 minutes

Expected time of survival in the water: 30 to 90 minutes

Water temperature: 40 to 50 degrees

Time until exhaustion or unconsciousness: 30 to 60 minutes

Expected time of survival in the water: 1 to 3 hours

Water temperature: 50 to 60 degrees

Time until exhaustion or unconsciousness: 1 to 2 hours

Expected time of survival in the water: 1 to 6 hours

Water temperature: 60 to 70 degrees

Time until exhaustion or unconsciousness: 2 to 7 hours

Expected time of survival in the water: 2 to 40 hours

Water temperature: 70 to 80 degrees

Time until exhaustion or unconsciousness: 3 to 12 hours

Expected time of survival in the water: 3 hours to indefinite

People can survive indefinitely in water temperatures above 80 degrees.

People have survived longer or shorter periods of time than outlined on this list. These are estimates.

That was Chuck Norris, and he did it twice.

 

[Two Deep]

12:27: Nick Schuyler is the boater who has been found, according to the cousin of Marquis Cooper, Ray Sanchez, who is at the Clearwater boat ramp where the men were last seen and has been getting updates from family. He was found 38 miles west of Tampa Bay alive and clinging to a boat, Sanchez said.

The Coast Guard cutter Tornado found the boat and dispatched a smaller boat to rescue him.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article980435.ece

hopefully he can fill them in on what happened to the others.

I hope the CG remembers to ask him about them.

Are you taking a shot at me or the Coast Guard?

You.

why?

Because some people just choose to be A-holes, which in this case clearly applies.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Family members told FOX News Nick Schuyler was found clinging to the boat about 30 miles off shore. FOX News also reports the other three men were wearing life jackets, and the Coast Guard is searching for them.

"It's a relief that they found somebody and that they found a boat. That gives us a lot of time." Marquis Cooper's cousin Ray Sanchez. "They're gonna find my cousin. That's all I know. He's a great swimmer, they've got vests so I know that man's gonnna be fine."

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/boaters_rescue_030209

this is nice to hear, I have to admit was wondering.

 

[gump]

35 miles offshore.

Schuyler says boat was anchored, and flipped.

 

[Avery]

Family members told FOX News Nick Schuyler was found clinging to the boat about 30 miles off shore. FOX News also reports the other three men were wearing life jackets, and the Coast Guard is searching for them.

"It's a relief that they found somebody and that they found a boat. That gives us a lot of time." Marquis Cooper's cousin Ray Sanchez. "They're gonna find my cousin. That's all I know. He's a great swimmer, they've got vests so I know that man's gonnna be fine."

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/boaters_rescue_030209

this is nice to hear, I have to admit was wondering.

Anything helps I guess, I'm just not sure it matter how good a swimmer you are after being in the water this long. Potentially good news about the life vest though.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

35 miles offshore. Schuyler says boat was anchored, and flipped.

You think it was a rogue wave?

 

[gump]

Numerous aircraft and boats concentrating on the area they found Shuyler now, and spanning away from shore from there. No debris.

 

[Avery]

35 miles offshore.

Schuyler says boat was anchored, and flipped.

Is that a good idea?Not a boater so I have no idea but it seems that if you anchor a small boat might it not be more likely to flip becuase if can't be steered at all it stay perpendicular to the wake (which is what I'm guessing you want in rough weather)?

 

[Flyin Pigs]

Fox just said that all 4 were with the boat until about 2AM when the other 3 tried to swim for it.

 

[gump]

7-9 foot waves now in target area.

35 miles southwest of Clearwater.

Lifejackets were designed to hold men above water for "days".

 

[Incogneto]

Fox just said that all 4 were with the boat until about 2AM when the other 3 tried to swim for it.

Tried to SWIM for it?!?!?!?