Colin Kaepernick Thread and related anthem kneeling issues/news (1 Viewer)

[PhantomJB]

Disrespecting the taxpayers?  Seriously?

Who funds the U.S. soccer team?

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Disrespecting the taxpayers?  Seriously?

That's what is says.  Seriously

 

[Henry Ford]

Who funds the U.S. soccer team?

Nike?

 

[Henry Ford]

That's what is says.  Seriously

I’m genuinely confused. What taxpayer money goes to the US Women’s Soccer Team?

 

[Henry Ford]

Bingo. Massive hypocrisy. All expenses paid trip to play a game then turn around and disrespect many of the taxpayers that enable her to do so.

A real protest would have been to decline the invitation to play for the U.S. at all. Not take the candy and then b**ch about where it came from.

Maybe you can explain. Sorry, didn’t realize it originated with you. 

What taxpayer funding does the US Women’s Soccer Team get?

 

[sho nuff]

Who funds the U.S. soccer team?

Can you point me to the taxpayer money in their financial statements?

 

[Mile High]

Can you point me to the taxpayer money in their financial statements?

So not taxpayer funded. Guess that argument is out the window.

 

[Henry Ford]

Can you point me to the taxpayer money in their financial statements?

Of course, keeping in mind that the US Olympic Committee (which is less than 1% of US Soccer’s total funding anyway) does not take federal funding. 

 

[Sheriff Bart]

Remember that this thread was started because Kappy knelt during the anthem to protest police violence.  A peaceful protest. 

Reddit ‘Quarantines’ Pro-Trump Subreddit Over Anti-Police Threats

 

[Henry Ford]

Remember that this thread was started because Kappy knelt during the anthem to protest police violence.  A peaceful protest. 

Reddit ‘Quarantines’ Pro-Trump Subreddit Over Anti-Police Threats

I’m sure those people were all in behind Kaepernick when he was protesting.  

 

[OrtonToOlsen]

Remember that this thread was started because Kappy knelt during the anthem to protest police violence.  A peaceful protest. 

Reddit ‘Quarantines’ Pro-Trump Subreddit Over Anti-Police Threats

/r/the_donald is absolutely the most depressing place on the internet.  

The posters there make some of the people around look like John Stuart Mill.

 

[Sheriff Bart]

I’m sure those people were all in behind Kaepernick when he was protesting.  

Throwing their Nike and Keurigs at him. 

 

[Sheriff Bart]

Here's a stronger worded headline from Reuters ya:

Social platform Reddit quarantines major pro-Trump community over violence threats

 

[Sheriff Bart]

Sorry to derail this thread to the actual topic.  Go back to your outrage about some amateur soccer player ya.

 

[Hawkeye21]

I’m starting to realize that the people complaining about this know very little about the woman’s national team and soccer in generally. I think it would be best to educate yourselves a little more before making any more absurd claims. 

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

He y is this the thread where a bunch of middle class, middle aged white dudes tell lesbians how they should feel about their place in American society?

I'm past middle age, old now.  I am translucent, not white.  I like lesbians, my reasons will remain my own.

 

[Sheriff Bart]

I'm past middle age, old now.  I am translucent, not white.  I like lesbians, my reasons will remain my own.

Do you have half a dozen kids too? 

 

[Henry Ford]

He y is this the thread where a bunch of middle class, middle aged white dudes tell lesbians how they should feel about their place in American society?

There’s only one?

 

[sho nuff]

Do you have half a dozen kids too? 

DW is Jim Gaffigan?

 

[rockaction]

Rapinoe is one of the lesbianic reasons I don't support, financially or politically, Title IX or professional women's sports. There. Been said.

 

[Henry Ford]

Rapinoe is one of the lesbianic reasons I don't support, financially or politically, Title IX or professional women's sports. There. Been said.

“Lesbianic reasons”?

 

[rockaction]

“Lesbianic reasons”?

Lesbianism often times concerns itself sociopolitically and immediately. Generally, I find it to my detriment. Therefore, I generally don't support the political aspirations of either radical feminism or lockstep sociopolitical lesbianism.

 

[timschochet]

Lesbianism often times concerns itself sociopolitically and immediately. Generally, I find it to my detriment. Therefore, I generally don't support the political aspirations of either radical feminism or lockstep sociopolitical lesbianism.

Why is lesbianism to your detriment? 

 

[rockaction]

Why is lesbianism to your detriment? 

Not lesbianism. Its political wing, as expressed through the typical identity politics of the day.

 

[timschochet]

I’ve been reading this woman’s bio: 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megan_Rapinoe

She’s pretty remarkable. Besides being one of the very best ever at her sport, she was an honor student all through high school and college. Her philanthropy work is off the charts. Pretty proud that she’s from California (Foothill High School, though her college was Portland University.) Sounds like someone to truly admire. 

 

[timschochet]

Not lesbianism. Its political wing, as expressed through the typical identity politics of the day.

Why is the political wing of lesbianism (whatever that means) to your detriment? 

 

[Henry Ford]

Lesbianism often times concerns itself sociopolitically and immediately. Generally, I find it to my detriment. Therefore, I generally don't support the political aspirations of either radical feminism or lockstep sociopolitical lesbianism.

Not lesbianism. Its political wing, as expressed through the typical identity politics of the day.

I see.  Lesbianism but not lesbianism.  Sounds very complex. 

It’s possible you just don’t like something that you associate with lesbians and you’ve decided to oppose lesbians because of that thing that you associate with lesbians. 

Because I have to be honest, I’m pretty confused why Rapinoe (and I’m assuming you mean just Megan) is a reason to not support Title IX and professional women’s sports. . 

 

[Insomniac]

I would interpret her comments as supportive of her country, except when it falls short of its obligations under its foundational principals.  She is not supportive of falling short.

I seem to remember something about "liberty and justice for all" as an American value. Sometimes we've fallen short of that standard. A lot of conservatives don't seem to think that peope who point that out are good Americans. 

 

[rockaction]

Why is the political wing of lesbianism (whatever that means) to your detriment? 

Their influence on the fashion industry?

 

[rockaction]

I see.  Lesbianism but not lesbianism.  Sounds very complex. 

It’s possible you just don’t like something that you associate with lesbians and you’ve decided to oppose lesbians because of that thing that you associate with lesbians. 

Because I have to be honest, I’m pretty confused why Rapinoe (and I’m assuming you mean just Megan) is a reason to not support Title IX and professional women’s sports. . 

I associate lesbianism with its inevitable political manifestation, which is generally identity-driven and places men's concerns as a distant second to their own advocacy.

I think radical feminism and lesbianism were disproportionately represented and/or considered in the passage of Title IX. 

Women's sports certainly has a higher percentage of lesbian participants than the gen pop; thus I don't really support the sociopolitical aspect of women's sports, all things considered.

 

[rockaction]

Why is the political wing of lesbianism (whatever that means) to your detriment? 

"A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle" finds itself manifest inappropriately in all sorts of normative behavior and especially and most tangibly, family law. I need lesbians like I need a hole in my head. They have no use for me. I have no use for them. 

In general.

 

[jon_mx]

I seem to remember something about "liberty and justice for all" as an American value. Sometimes we've fallen short of that standard. A lot of conservatives don't seem to think that peope who point that out are good Americans. 

It can be done is a respectful manner.   But when someone is being intentionally disrespectful and I have no idea why people try to spin that as respectful.  

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Do you have half a dozen kids too? 

Not yet.  I intend to be like Tony Randall or James Doohan, fathering kids into my dotage. 

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

DW is Jim Gaffigan?

I bit less "doughy".  Oh, and not a ginger.  Close to a ginger, freckled as a young kid, but they faded, and not a red head.

 

[Godsbrother]

I’ve been reading this woman’s bio: 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megan_Rapinoe

She’s pretty remarkable. Besides being one of the very best ever at her sport, she was an honor student all through high school and college. Her philanthropy work is off the charts. Pretty proud that she’s from California (Foothill High School, though her college was Portland University.) Sounds like someone to truly admire. 

She doesn't put her hand over her heart and won't sing during the National Anthem -AND-  she's a lesbian.   No true American could admire a person like that.

 

[jon_mx]

She doesn't put her hand over her heart and won't sing during the National Anthem -AND-  she's a lesbian.   No true American could admire a person like that.

It is easy to think you 'win' arguements when you completely mischaracterize or ignore the real point.  

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

It is easy to think you 'win' arguements when you completely mischaracterize or ignore the real point.  

Yesterday, it amazed him anyone spent more than 10 seconds on this topic.  Yet here he is posting and posting and posting about it.   Strange turn of events.

https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/755362-colin-kaepernick-thread-and-related-anthem-kneeling-issuesnews/?do=findComment&comment=21980913

 

[timschochet]

"A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle" finds itself manifest inappropriately in all sorts of normative behavior and especially and most tangibly, family law. I need lesbians like I need a hole in my head. They have no use for me. I have no use for them. 

In general.

That quote is from Gloria Steinem, a lifelong proud heterosexual (in fact she’s married to Christian Bale’s dad.) it wasn’t a rejection of men but of the idea of need. 

In any case I still don’t understand what you’re getting at. What is inappropriate? What about family law bothers you? And what has Rapinoe in particular ever said or done that makes you think she is anti-man? 

 

[Godsbrother]

Yesterday, it amazed him anyone spent more than 10 seconds on this topic.  Yet here he is posting and posting and posting about it.   Strange turn of events.

https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/755362-colin-kaepernick-thread-and-related-anthem-kneeling-issuesnews/?do=findComment&comment=21980913

It didn't take me more than 10 seconds to make up my mind that this was a silly thing to be bothered with.  I just pop in here and occasionally respond to people that get butt-hurt over goofy things like this.    Thanks for noticing.

 

[parasaurolophus]

in fact she’s married to Christian Bale’s dad

Never knew this.

 

[Godsbrother]

It is easy to think you 'win' arguements when you completely mischaracterize or ignore the real point.  

I am not trying to win any arguments.  There is nothing I can say that is going to make you change your mind.  

 

[rockaction]

That quote is from Gloria Steinem, a lifelong proud heterosexual (in fact she’s married to Christian Bale’s dad.) it wasn’t a rejection of men but of the idea of need. 

In any case I still don’t understand what you’re getting at. What is inappropriate? What about family law bothers you? And what has Rapinoe in particular ever said or done that makes you think she is anti-man? 

I know who said it and who she was married to. I was talking about who adopted it and what it meant. It's not the exact quote or who exactly said it -- it's the sentiment.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Their influence on the fashion industry?

My daughter prefers pockets on her pants. 

 

[Hawkeye21]

I find it interesting reading other people's opinions on here.  I see a bunch of middle-age to older, middle to upper class, white men sharing their opinions on what they think of other races and women.  It's quite amazing really.

I see that rockaction does not approve much of women who are strong and independent.  I'm not sure I've ever heard him speak up about any men that treat women like they are below them though.  Misogyny gets ignored or passed over much quicker on here but when a women speaks up she gets blasted by some.  It's interesting. 

 

[timschochet]

I know who said it and who she was married to. I was talking about who adopted it and what it meant. It's not the exact quote or who exactly said it -- it's the sentiment.

Well I think you misunderstand the sentiment. 

 

[sho nuff]

It can be done is a respectful manner.   But when someone is being intentionally disrespectful and I have no idea why people try to spin that as respectful.  

Again...first kneeling wasn't respectful...now not only must someone stand, they must put their hand on their heart and sing.

 

[rockaction]

I see that rockaction does not approve much of women who are strong and independent.

That's a wild mischaracterization of my opinions of your average lesbian's politics.

 

[sho nuff]

It is easy to think you 'win' arguements when you completely mischaracterize or ignore the real point.  

The points he talked about have been made in this thread.  Some are upset with her not putting her hand on her heart and singing...at least one was upset about her being a lesbian (at least politically and as to why he wouldn't support Title IX).

 

[timschochet]

That's a wild mischaracterization of my opinions of your average lesbian's politics.

Maybe but you’re not trying very hard to characterize them yourself. You still haven’t been specific about what you don’t like. 

 

[Hawkeye21]

That's a wild mischaracterization of my opinions of your average lesbian's politics.

I would say it's a very common trait that lesbians who are in the headlines have, right?  The ones who get criticized the most.  What is it that bothers you so much about them?