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A May 2nd tradition at my daughter's school: the kids wear t-shirts of the colleges they will be attending in the fall. Is this common? Any similar traditions you've heard of? 
				
			Same here. Daughter was wearing her University of Louisville sweatshirt today.A May 2nd tradition at my daughter's school: the kids wear t-shirts of the colleges they will be attending in the fall. Is this common? Any similar traditions you've heard of?
Usually less aid is available from the colleges. Whether loans are offered for the full amount is dependent on the type of study. i.e., much easier to borrow the full amount for a medical degree as opposed to a master's in social work degree.Slightly off topic question about grad school and financial aid
How do schools manage financial aid for grad students? I think I read that for most cases, the parents assets are no longer considered for FAFSA. Is this the same for the CSS Profile?
And if that is true, does that mean most kids would qualify for a lot of aid since most grad students are going to have little assets? Or do the colleges allocate much less aid for grads students even if they are needy?
Some graduate degrees, such as mathematics, are usually funded by schools, with a tuition waiver and a living stipend, since there are so many undergraduates taking math. Graduate students are cheap labor for grading, tutoring and teaching. As more classes go on-line that may already be changing.Usually less aid is available from the colleges. Whether loans are offered for the full amount is dependent on the type of study. i.e., much easier to borrow the full amount for a medical degree as opposed to a master's in social work degree.
 
 Is this fairly unique to Trinity? I've been involved with and followed the college application process for a while now and it's the first I've heard of all of these tests required after acceptance. Got to check with my kid to see if she's heard of these and, more importantly, if she needs to do any.Every time I think my daughter can finally take a break from the college process, another load of work is dumped on her.
Today we received a package in the mail from Trinity listing a ton of items that need to be completed in relatively short order.
The first deadline is May 31st and includes her having to take a Math Placement Test, a Guided Writing Assessment test, and a second language assessment test along with a bunch of other items.
June has other items due, though they look to be more simple questionnaire type things.
I am surprised this hasn't gone by the wayside as some form of discrimination or shaming.A May 2nd tradition at my daughter's school: the kids wear t-shirts of the colleges they will be attending in the fall. Is this common? Any similar traditions you've heard of?
True. But I asked my daughter and she told me that a high % of seniors participated this year. Part of the reason may be that the local community college system (which a lot of kids will go to) has a very good reputation so those kids don't mind showing that's where they'll be going.I am surprised this hasn't gone by the wayside as some form of discrimination or shaming.
My daughter said she heard from other kids going to other schools that they also had to take some placement tests. I am sure it varies school to school. You can also skip these placement tests if you intend to use AP testing to not take the course to begin with.Is this fairly unique to Trinity? I've been involved with and followed the college application process for a while now and it's the first I've heard of all of these tests required after acceptance. Got to check with my kid to see if she's heard of these and, more importantly, if she needs to do any.
My experience is it depends on the school. It seems most schools superscore, that is they would take the highest score on each of the four parts (regardless of which test the high score occurred in) and arrive at a new combined composite. In your example, the 29 in reading might actually help get you a higher superscored composite of 31.In regards to the ACT test; they have stated over and over that colleges only look at your top scores when considering acceptance. Is this the composite score or each of the categories individually? In other words, lets say for argument's sake that you scored a composite 30 but a 27 on the reading. The next time you take the test, you get a 29 composite and a 29 on reading. Would they take the 30 composite and the 29 reading?
For the schools that don't superscore, I'm pretty sure they would take the test with the highest composite: the 29/29 score would be ignored in favor of the 30/27 result. Btw, my limited experience points to schools being a little more likely to superscore SATs than ACTs. My kid applied to Notre Dame where they don't superscore ACTs but they do with SATs, I believe.In regards to the ACT test; they have stated over and over that colleges only look at your top scores when considering acceptance. Is this the composite score or each of the categories individually? In other words, lets say for argument's sake that you scored a composite 30 but a 27 on the reading. The next time you take the test, you get a 29 composite and a 29 on reading. Would they take the 30 composite and the 29 reading?
also worth noting that I am pretty sure many colleges treat boys a little different than girls.In fairness gameday, most kids who go through high school the way your son apparently did, wont have a 3.3 or 27 composite.
Good luck to him!
Are you using Naviance? We found that tool very helpful (even though my daughters point on the graphs was really odd compared to the rest)Thanks Turtle! Looks like for the specific school, kids have recently been accepted with both lower GPA and lower ACT scores than my son, but I was curious anyways.
Yes sir.Are you using Naviance? We found that tool very helpful (even though my daughters point on the graphs was really odd compared to the rest)
have you noticed that some schools are protecting the data for "privacy" reasons on the graph? I was looking the other day to see if they had updated the information for the 2017 kids and noticed a bunch of the schools my daughter applied to had moved to the privacy mode.Yes sir.
No, but because of the tuition situation I noted a few weeks back (not worth looking for on your end), we are locked into one school. I'm hoping we dont need a plan B.have you noticed that some schools are protecting the data for "privacy" reasons on the graph? I was looking the other day to see if they had updated the information for the 2017 kids and noticed a bunch of the schools my daughter applied to had moved to the privacy mode.
 
 The high school controls the "privacy" mode, not the colleges. A lot of times what that means is that so few people from your kid's school have applied there recently that it would be easy to figure out who was who. Or sometimes, there's an athletic recruit at one of those schools - and when you see someone with terrible stats get accepted, you can immediately deduce who the athlete is and know what their scores/grades were.have you noticed that some schools are protecting the data for "privacy" reasons on the graph? I was looking the other day to see if they had updated the information for the 2017 kids and noticed a bunch of the schools my daughter applied to had moved to the privacy mode.
it is VERY dependent on the field. 15 years ago in Engineering, you could get a PhD or a Masters without incurring any debt whatsoever. In other fields, there is no financial aid other than scholarships which are hard to come by. The thought is that these "professional" degrees will pay for themselves over the course of a career.I don't really know.
I know what is available for under grads (which are both loans and grants). What is available for grad students in terms of aid (if any?)
Congrats. We have FIVE HS graduations in the family this/next week. Went to a nephew's today at the UMD. My daughter's is next Weds. The speaker today was pretty good, even passing along best wishes to the class from MLK's daughter via Twitter. The speaker was fairly funny, energetic, and BRIEF.Any one's kid graduating this week? My daughter in on Thursday.
She finished up her various placement tests for Trinity so we are good there.
The only remaining issue I need to tackle is trying to understand how health insurance works and if she is covered on our current plan while going to college in another state.
I saw this. Unbelievable. All of their work and effort to get in only to flush it all down the toilet. I have to admit I felt somewhat bad for them and, especially, their families.In yet another indication of where you get accepted to school has little relation to your intelligence, look at what these knuckleheads, who were accepted by Harvard (and now rescinded), did....
https://www.yahoo.com/news/1295711-180805993.html
The kids will be fine. If anything, they benefited from this by getting a very good life lesson.I saw this. Unbelievable. All of their work and effort to get in only to flush it all down the toilet. I have to admit I felt somewhat bad for them and, especially, their families.
Duke's median family income is $186,700. Culture shock for my public high school kid.Not sure where to put this - Raj Chetty did some studies on income inequality, household income, and ability for students to move up in income tiers.
College Mobility Interactive Info - NY Times
Here was a link to more of his work - Equality of Opportunity
 The girl she's lining up to be her roommate went to a boarding school that has an acceptance rate of only 13%.
   The girl she's lining up to be her roommate went to a boarding school that has an acceptance rate of only 13%.normally I would agree, but some of these guys went above and beyond the normal teenaged boys dumbness. They supposedly uncovered posts about some of them planning to rape other freshman on campus, at least is what my wife said she saw on the local news. I think it was these 10 out of the 100 in the group that were singled out as the possible real nut jobs.I saw this. Unbelievable. All of their work and effort to get in only to flush it all down the toilet. I have to admit I felt somewhat bad for them and, especially, their families.
I agree. When I found out what they were posting, I figure Harvard is way better off.normally I would agree, but some of these guys went above and beyond the normal teenaged boys dumbness. They supposedly uncovered posts about some of them planning to rape other freshman on campus, at least is what my wife said she saw on the local news. I think it was these 10 out of the 100 in the group that were singled out as the possible real nut jobs.I saw this. Unbelievable. All of their work and effort to get in only to flush it all down the toilet. I have to admit I felt somewhat bad for them and, especially, their families.
It must be awful for the families. I am sure most of the families were very proud their kid got into Harvard and likely shared the news with everyone they knew.
Harvard had no choice but to do what they did IMO.
Yeah, NewlyRetired might not want to plug in the numbers for Trinity. #5 in the entire country for Median Household income at $257K. And #1 in the country for highest share of Top 1% kids in the country - 26% come from families that make $630K or more! So 1 out of every 4 kids is a 1 percenter. But they mostly keep to themselves - even as those poor kids whose families make only $250K per year try to cozy up to them.Duke's median family income is $186,700. Culture shock for my public high school kid.The girl she's lining up to be her roommate went to a boarding school that has an acceptance rate of only 13%.
So you are saying my 8 hour a week part time job at my local library is not going to cut it?Yeah, NewlyRetired might not want to plug in the numbers for Trinity. #5 in the entire country for Median Household income at $257K.
 
 My brother in law knows the president of an Ivory school. My BIL got his Masters and Doctorate from that school and the now president was his faculty adviser on his PHD dissertation. He maintained a good relationship with his person and years back he took his daughter out there to meet with him and do a tour etc. This way it was known that his daughter was interested in attending school there. There was never a discussion on can you help. She applied and got in - one of the most competitive schools to get into. Not sure there was any help given and a little different than your situation.My daughter is a rising junior and is starting to get interested in schools. She projects to have the "chops" for Duke but I know there's a ton of qualified applicants. I found out this weekend that someone I know (not well) is on their Board of Governors. What's the best way to leverage that relationship? My feeling is that he wouldn't be able to help someone with a 30 ACT and a 3.5 GPA but if you fell in their 50th %ile, he might be able to do something if he was inclined. Anyone with experience or thoughts?
So we found out that our health plan does not provide anything more than the bare basics for emergency services when the student is going to college out of state.The only remaining issue I need to tackle is trying to understand how health insurance works and if she is covered on our current plan while going to college in another state.
I can't speak for your specific question but as you know Duke is one of the elite schools. If she is really interested in it, it behooves her to go early decision when the time comes. The acceptance rate for regular decision is extremely small (one of the smallest in the country).My daughter is a rising junior and is starting to get interested in schools. She projects to have the "chops" for Duke but I know there's a ton of qualified applicants. I found out this weekend that someone I know (not well) is on their Board of Governors. What's the best way to leverage that relationship? My feeling is that he wouldn't be able to help someone with a 30 ACT and a 3.5 GPA but if you fell in their 50th %ile, he might be able to do something if he was inclined. Anyone with experience or thoughts?
I'd say this is very good advice. Just remotely knowing a Board of Governors guy isn't going to do much - particularly if the guy has literally never met your kid. But, if your kid truly meets the profile of accepted Duke students and it is her top choice then she should apply there early, and having the BOG guy drop a note to Admissions saying that Duke is her first choice and she would be a great fit, etc., can help. NOTE: none of this will help if she isn't qualified to get in. But if she is qualified, it could be enough to tip her over into the admit category.My brother in law knows the president of an Ivory school. My BIL got his Masters and Doctorate from that school and the now president was his faculty adviser on his PHD dissertation. He maintained a good relationship with his person and years back he took his daughter out there to meet with him and do a tour etc. This way it was known that his daughter was interested in attending school there. There was never a discussion on can you help. She applied and got in - one of the most competitive schools to get into. Not sure there was any help given and a little different than your situation.
There was a letter sent to the institution that basically told my BIL that the school knows you are an alum but that grants the applicant no additional benefits. They won't get auto rejected basically.
Good luck. My BIL got his undergrad from Duke and i grew up in Durham. Love the campus and the city for the most part.
 
 Thankfully, the suite style dorms at Louisville come furnished with bed, desk, fridge and microwave. A few less things to worry about packing for the 6+ hour ride. Amazing what my wife and daughter "think" will fit into a dorm room. I told them that if it doesn't fit in the bed of the truck with the tonneau cover in place, it won't fit in a dorm room.My daughter has not received her room assignment yet. She is hoping for an old fashioned double but I am hoping she gets a quad. The quads in Trinity look great, each kid gets there own small bed room and then they share a large living space and bath room. I am also think with a quad she betters her chances of finding someone who likes her enough to engage with her.
What are you guys doing for fridges? Are you renting on campus or purchasing before hand?
We are thankfully not paying much for Trinity (daughter got a full 4 year tuition scholarship plus another grant to help cover housing/food/etc).I can't see the rent being much cheaper of an option. And if you are paying for Trinity, the expense of a fridge is zip compared to the tuition and room and board.
4 year full - Congrats. Forgot that from above.We are thankfully not paying much for Trinity (daughter got a full 4 year tuition scholarship plus another grant to help cover housing/food/etc).
I do agree though that buying one seems to make more sense. I need to contact the school to see what the size limits are for these rooms.
the cost is staggering. I think the full bill came to almost $73k for this year.4 year full - Congrats. Forgot that from above.
Heck, if my daughter was able to pull that off, I'd be buying her a new car or down payment on a house. Cheaper route for me.
WTF? How much do you think a normal student actually pays? I'm assuming they give tens of thousands in grants to just about every student.the cost is staggering. I think the full bill came to almost $73k for this year.
