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WR Malik Nabers, NYG (2 Viewers)
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rockaction
Footballguy
What happens if this guy measures in at 5'10 1/2"
We gonna ding him for it? Will the NFL?
We gonna ding him for it? Will the NFL?
Soulfly3
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I agree where did that come from?
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
Lance Zierlein has Nabers as his number 1 overall player.
brewer
Footballguy
Over statement. I don't think Odunze will find it as easy to get open in the NFL than will Harrison and Nabers. Of the consensus big 3, I think Odunze will struggle especially early in beating man coverages. His catch rate and body positioning will help him but to me, he's well behind Harrison and Nabers.
Faust
MVP
Faust
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Snoog’s Dynasty Society
Career Prospect Production Profile️
Malik Nabers, WR LSU:
2023: 89/1,569/14 TD
2022: 72/1,017/3 TD
2021: 28/417/4 TD
- 20 years old
- Early Declare
- Production Profile
- Sophomore breakout
- 0.195 EPA/Route
- 0.50% 1st down/target
- 0.26% Career TPRR
- 2.83 Career YPRR
- 1,000 yard season
- Biletnikoff award winner
Flawless profile…
#NFLDraft2024
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
It’s pretty clear at this point that he’s an elite level prospect and in most years would be an easy top of class guy.
MHJ has size that fits the mold of the prototype WR1 that can become a multi year top 2 guy. In top of having loads of other elite traits.
But there’s tons of guys that have been really dominant without fitting that mold.
It’s an interesting debate that- with any luck- takes years to resolve for all the right reasons.
Dying to see how my resources have all these guys.
MHJ has size that fits the mold of the prototype WR1 that can become a multi year top 2 guy. In top of having loads of other elite traits.
But there’s tons of guys that have been really dominant without fitting that mold.
It’s an interesting debate that- with any luck- takes years to resolve for all the right reasons.
Dying to see how my resources have all these guys.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Feels like this the top of this year's dynasty draft is sort of similar to last year in the sense of Bijan was the anointed king. The 1.01 of a generation. Meanwhile, Gibbs was this super explosive modern player who sure looked elite. Bijan is to MJH as Gibbs is to Nabers.
Gold Fox
Footballguy
Does that make Maye this year’s Stroud?
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
He didn't win this.- Biletnikoff award winner
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
I have them neck and neck you can’t go wrong with either but I love what Naber has shown.
Tex
-OZ-
Footballguy
It will be interesting for sure. Nabers absolutely can be elite, I loved / hated watching him play this past season. But I do think he’s more dependent on the fit, QB and Coach, than MHjr. I feel Harrison can go anywhere and be great.
There’s some scuttle about Nabers landing in Tennessee. I would like that a lot but unless there OL is improved there won’t be time to consistently get him the ball.
Put Nabers in Chicago with their 2nd pick or with the chargers and he becomes 1b in this draft.
(HULK)
(Smash)
It's super weird that I feel like the two players not getting near enough love right now are Maye and Nabers. Maye could easily be the best QB in this class, and Nabers could easily be the best WR.
(HULK)
(Smash)
I guess there is less risk with MHJ. He's like a robot purpose built to be an NFL WR. Zero obvious flaws.
Nabers just seems electric and like he'll be open all the time, and he'll do stuff when he gets the ball.
I wish I had like 7 first round picks this year.
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
You can't be reading the same sources that I am then because I've not seen anywhere that isn't massively pumping up Nabers. He's got as much hype as any player in the class this year.
eighsse2
Footballguy
So, just trying to evaluate things here ... Harrison is largely considered #1, and Nabers almost unanimously top 2 WR, some would say #1 or tied at the top. So, in 2020, Jeudy and Lamb were the monster WR prospects, I think more had Jeudy #1, but it was fairly well split between the two.
How would you all compare someone like Nabers as a prospect, versus Jeudy and Lamb as prospects in 2020? Not Jeudy and Lamb now, obviously, but when they were rookies. My feeling based on hype is, about equal?
How would you all compare someone like Nabers as a prospect, versus Jeudy and Lamb as prospects in 2020? Not Jeudy and Lamb now, obviously, but when they were rookies. My feeling based on hype is, about equal?
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
I think the current two are considered notably superior as prospects. Harrison is spoken about in some circles as the best prospect since Megatron. Nabers not far off him and right alongside his LSU peers.
Lamb, nor Jeudy were even the first WR taken in their class.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Yep.
MHjr is as close to megatron as a quality prospect, or Fitzgerald (the comp I like better).
Nabers is a different player but not far behind (if at all) in today’s NFL.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Okay, good info, thanks guys. I mainly just remembered those two being so highly coveted, wasn't sure how to compare to a different class.
DropKick
Footballguy
Because the Raiders perennially strive to restore the "vertical passing game" to the NFL and are infatuated with track speed.
My fantasy leagues didn't fall for it... the order as I recall was Lamb, Jeudy, Jefferson.... Ruggs was not near the top.
-OZ-
Footballguy
FWIW, our top 10 players taken that year were CEH, jeudy, lamb, Ruggs, JJ, Taylor, Pittman, Reagor, Burrow, Higgins. What a great year, just to see CEH go first.
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
No, nor mine. We started with 5 Rb's, then Lamb, Aiyuk, JJ. Think Jeudy and Ruggs were 10 and 11.
Either way, MHJ and Nabers still seem vastly superior prospects. Even if Troy Franklin or Xavier Worthy run in the 4.1X's they won't be going ahead of the aforementioned two.
massraider
Footballguy
Seems like a reasonable take to me.
All three have physical ability to be the best one.
Probably at least 2 go top 9 maybe all 3
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I can’t recall that happening recently. Are all the other positions garbage? I might just not remember.
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
I really like him at the Giants. Obvious number 1, focal point of offense that needs a revamp, highly drafted so motivation to get him the ball.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I wonder whether our fantasy opinions sometimes cloud what we think the NFL thinks? Yes, the WRs in this draft are good, but some teams may think they can wait on one. There are more than just 3 and I wouldn’t be surprised to see a team take one before Nabers or Odunze. Adonai Mitchell? Brian Thomas?
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Taking either before those 2 is a criminal offense, and I really like BT
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Been watching Spencer Rattler highlights and Xavier Legette is D.K. Metcalf - ish
Some incredible WRs in this draft.
-OZ-
Footballguy
This is a fantastic year for QB and WR. Also OT. otherwise it seems less than stellar for other positions. It lacks the amount of high end defensive talent we’ve seen recently.
-OZ-
Footballguy
You’re right, but teams outsmart themselves at times.
Don't know but if the Chargers don't move back and pick a pass catcher at 5 he makes more sense to me then any player in the draft and I say with respect to MHJ and how critical a TE usually is to a Harbaugh offense. They've been desperate for good players with speed on that offense. I'd argue Herbert had never had that and that's a shame with his arm.
I'll add that I'll be surprised if Nabers is not at least the second WR drafted. Odunze's good but the league just has always put a lot higher value on speed and big play receivers.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Not that it means much, but I'm interested to see the combine results for Nabers v Odunze in the 40.
Odunze reminds me of a Mario Lemieux... Doesn't look super fast, yet no one could ever catch him. I feel like his build/style makes him look slower than he is, yet everyone is/was always behind him
Odunze reminds me of a Mario Lemieux... Doesn't look super fast, yet no one could ever catch him. I feel like his build/style makes him look slower than he is, yet everyone is/was always behind him
-OZ-
Footballguy
I think odunze is faster in the 40.
Nabers excels in quickness / agility.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
We'll see. I wouldn't doubt it.
What matters to me is what they do in pads. And both just always seem to beat their defender, even if in different ways
I searched this and to my surprise UW is saying Odunze ran in the 4.3's. If that's true I missed it, did not show to me watching him, Nabers just seems way more explosive to me.
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
Nabers seems to have crazy acceleration. Takes off at full speed near enough. I bet his 20 split is ridiculous. Might not quite maintain it over distance but short distance, where it matters most at WR, he's super human.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Yes, from what I remember watching both, Nabers accelerates and is crisp in his routes. Odunze is sort of a metcalf / Evans type. Fast, but not particularly explosive. Give odunze a strong armed QB and good pass blocking and he’ll be great. Nabers is more versatile imo.
