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WR Malik Nabers, NYG (1 Viewer)
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Not a lot of places putting them in the top tier and both belong there IMO
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
I can barely find a mock with Nabers outside the top 6 and don't think I've seen any with Maye outside the top 3, the last one I read he was the 1.01 in fact. But fair enough if you're seeing different stuff to me.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Maye seems to be a mixed bag.
But the lowest Nabers falls is to 9.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Sorry, but I don't see a world where Nabers falls to 9, no matter the format.
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
He's talking about the actual NFL draft.
-OZ-
Footballguy
He’s #4 at the absolute worst in regular leagues. SF though, I don’t think he falls that far but it’s not completely implausible for owners to take 5 QBs before him, then MH, Odunze and bowers. Although him falling would be a mistake.
I was.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I suppose it’s possible if enough QBs are taken early.
-OZ-
Footballguy
I have him going 5 to the chargers or 6 to the giants. But it wouldn’t be too surprising to see 3 QBs, Alt, Fashanu, MH, Odunze, and Bowers / Turner / 4th QB taken ahead.
Faust
MVP
RosterWatch
Malik Nabers WR, LSU | 2024 NFL Draft Rookie Spotlight | (FULL VIDEO)
"Get OUT of group think... Malik Nabers deserves the respect of being mentioned as the WR1." - @CodyCarpentier
"Torry Holt... Stefon Diggs... Isaac Bruce... OBJ"
youtube.com/@RosterWatch
-OZ-
Footballguy
Probably any year this decade other than this year.RosterWatch
Malik Nabers WR, LSU | 2024 NFL Draft Rookie Spotlight | (FULL VIDEO)
"Get OUT of group think... Malik Nabers deserves the respect of being mentioned as the WR1." - @CodyCarpentier
"Torry Holt... Stefon Diggs... Isaac Bruce... OBJ"
Faust
MVP
Steve Smith Sr.
If Marvin Harrison Jr. is No. 1, @whyguard13 is my 1
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#CutToIt| #NFLDraft
Soulfly3
Footballguy
PFF COMBINED CONSENSUS RANKING OF ALL STABLE METRICS SINCE 2022
Rank Wide receiver
1 Malachi Corley, Western Kentucky
2 Tahj Washington, USC
3 Troy Franklin, Oregon
4 Malik Nabers, LSU
5 Jamari Thrash, Lousiville
6 Rome Odunze, Washington
7 Roman Wilson, Michigan
8 Joshua Cephus, UTSA
9 Malik Washington, Virginia
10 Marvin Harrison Jr., Ohio State
Rank Wide receiver
1 Malachi Corley, Western Kentucky
2 Tahj Washington, USC
3 Troy Franklin, Oregon
4 Malik Nabers, LSU
5 Jamari Thrash, Lousiville
6 Rome Odunze, Washington
7 Roman Wilson, Michigan
8 Joshua Cephus, UTSA
9 Malik Washington, Virginia
10 Marvin Harrison Jr., Ohio State
JohnnyU
Footballguy
wut?
Soulfly3
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Yeah, that is comical to some degree.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Yeah, that is comical to some degree.
does therein lie the fact that PFF grades should be taken with a grain of salt?
honestly... i can say i do look at them. i do take some info from them. but as Ive always said, watching a player is 98% of it.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
It's always wise to take information from it, no matter what we think of it overall.Yeah, that is comical to some degree.
does therein lie the fact that PFF grades should be taken with a grain of salt?
honestly... i can say i do look at them. i do take some info from them. but as Ive always said, watching a player is 98% of it.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
The narrative is missing from the original article, it makes complete sense in its proper context.Yeah, that is comical to some degree.
does therein lie the fact that PFF grades should be taken with a grain of salt?
honestly... i can say i do look at them. i do take some info from them. but as Ive always said, watching a player is 98% of it.
Tex
Simms liking him is his 1st red flag.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Thomas number two over MHJr
Yeah, Simms is pretty much the worst when it comes to draft prospects. He hit on Josh Allen in 2018, and is living off that, despite having as bad a hit rate as any analyst out there. He's almost like a troll at this point. Just saying whatever might get clicks. I feel extremely comfortable trusting my analysis over Simms.
I do love Nabers though. I would very much argue he and Harrison are the 2 best prospects in a very long time. Probably have to go back to at least the Green/Julio year.
Nabers (and Thomas to a lesser extent) are big reasons why I'm a bit wary of Daniels. He was throwing to wide open guys all year, and if they weren't wide open its because defenses sold out to stop them leaving huge running lanes open.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I have Nabers above Harrison but not by much. I did like Chase coming out of school a little more than both but agree they are up there with the best in the last decade plus. I also share your concern on Daniels for the same reason and would add his slender build is a concern as well. With the hunger for QBs it will be interesting to see where these guys fall in the draft. Simms is a goof.
Monty Burns
Footballguy
Simms also thought Zach Wilson was going to be the best of his class.
Chaos34
Footballguy
Well, he wasn't the only one. He's done better with QBs than his counterparts at NFL.com and ESPN. Zierlein, Kiper and Simms work for networks. They're far more motivated to be right than to generate click bait with compelling content. Chase Daniel, Hasselback, Kurt Warner all have independent gigs evaluating prospects and they could use the attention, but I don't think any of them care. They just dig in and do their best at a fool's errand. Accusing any of them of attention seeking is lazy. Listen to their reasoning and rationale for their evaluations and it's obvious they're all trying to sort this out honestly.
I'm trying hard to separate Nabers and Harrison. I've watched what I can find. I don't like 5 minute highlight vids. I like 25 minute ones though, but mostly I prefer an ex professional player or scout doing long analyses of the good and not so good. Not some attention seeking fantasy dude. Eisen polled six team insiders at the combine. 4 preferred Nabers. An ex-scout on Ross Tucker's show said he called contacts at over half the league's teams and it's an even split. I'm leaning Nabers for the YAC ability, atm. Interested in their pro days. I'm cynical as anyone about content providers scheming for more attention, but not the types mentioned above. Listen to their evaluations and you should realize they're trying. i like Warner the most and he doesn't rank them.
Faust
MVP
Chaos34
Footballguy
Also notable Nabers is the top ranked wr at nfl.com. These reports are done by Lance Zierlein. He's been a pro scout. He's been dedicated to evaluating these guys honestly for over 20 years. He has Nabers over Harrison.
I'm done going back and forth with the top 2. It's:
1. Nabers
2. Harrison
tier
3. ODunze
and I'm not 100% convinced on 3.
Chaos34
Footballguy
So, the more I watch the more I'm impressed with Thomas. I'm reading the negatives and disagreeing with them. He's really dynamic after the catch. He led the nation in td receptions playing with Nabers. They weren't a bunch of goal line catches either. Anyway, I put Odunze on one monitor and Thomas on the other and tried to get a better feel for them that way. Great prospects, but the better speed and angry nose for the goal line makes me prefer Thomas. I think they both translate as WR1s. Thomas, like Nabers, is just more explosive.
1. Nabers
2. Harrison
3. Thomas
4. Odunze
Faust
MVP
Austin Abbott
𝗠𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗸 𝗡𝗮𝗯𝗲𝗿𝘀 is even 𝗕𝗘𝗧𝗧𝗘𝗥 than you think
𝗬𝗮𝗿𝗱𝘀 𝗣𝗲𝗿 𝗥𝗼𝘂𝘁𝗲 𝗥𝘂𝗻:
𝗠𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗸 𝗡𝗮𝗯𝗲𝗿𝘀: 𝟯.𝟲𝟰 (𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟯)
𝗗𝗿𝗼𝗽 𝗥𝗮𝘁𝗲:
𝗠𝗶𝘀𝘀𝗲𝗱 𝗧𝗮𝗰𝗸𝗹𝗲𝘀 𝗙𝗼𝗿𝗰𝗲𝗱:
𝗠𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗸 𝗡𝗮𝗯𝗲𝗿𝘀 has the 𝗠𝗢𝗦𝗧 𝗥𝗲𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀 (𝟭𝟴𝟵) and 𝗬𝗮𝗿𝗱𝘀 (𝟯,𝟬𝟬𝟯) in 𝗟𝗦𝗨 𝗛𝗜𝗦𝗧𝗢𝗥𝗬.
𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟯 𝗦𝘁𝗮𝘁𝘀: (𝟭𝟯 𝗚𝗮𝗺𝗲𝘀)
For what it’s worth, 𝗠𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗸 𝗡𝗮𝗯𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗼𝘂𝘁𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗺𝗲𝗱 𝗠𝗮𝗿𝘃𝗶𝗻 𝗛𝗮𝗿𝗿𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗻 𝗝𝗿. in the following 𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗴𝗼𝗿𝗶𝗲𝘀: (𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟯)
𝗛𝗲’𝘀 𝗽𝗵𝘆𝘀𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗹, 𝗲𝗹𝘂𝘀𝗶𝘃𝗲, 𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗹𝗲, and has a 𝗚𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗧 𝘂𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗿𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗻𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 of how to 𝗗𝗢𝗠𝗜𝗡𝗔𝗧𝗘 𝘇𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿𝗮𝗴𝗲.
𝗠𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗸 𝗡𝗮𝗯𝗲𝗿𝘀 is going to be a 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗺𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝘀𝘂𝗽𝗲𝗿𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗿 in the 𝗡𝗙𝗟.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
Interesting comp, was watching Daniels tape earlier today and obviously saw some Nabers and, despite having watched Nabers a lot before, it struck me that he DID look like Deebo with the ball in his hands. He’s like this cross between OBJ in his routes and catching style and turns into Deebo or Boldin after he secures it.
I don’t know man. I like him better than Marvin and it’s no knock on Marvin. Im going to need to see landing spots but sheesh. He could be my WR1.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Landing spot could alter my rankings, but all things being equal I have Nabers number one. No dig on MHJr but have him slightly closer to Odunze than Nabers as a prospect. Great crop this year at that position.
