Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Did he stop for coffee on the second try?
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mlball77
Footballguy
Yeah... he makes a compelling case. Nice work McIntyre.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Only one small thing, Mathews played for Virgina Tech not Fresno State. 
mcintyre1
Footballguy
Thanks guys, I appreciate it.BigTex, I think you're thinking of Ryan Williams, rather than Ryan Mathews.
matttyl
Footballguy
Um, no he didn't....he played for Fresno State.
Dang, was hoping my Texans would end up with him but he shot up draft boards in the senior bowl. This probably seals the deal that he'll be a very early pick now.
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
Curious as to why Randall Cobb is being pigeonholed as a slot WR. The guy is 5'10" and 191. While that isn't a big WR by today's standards, Greg Jennings was 5'11" 192 coming out of Western Michigan.
I think he's got a shot at going at the bottom of round 1, top of rd 2 to a team like the Packers or Patriots. Excellent returner, dynamic playmaker in the open field, and plenty of size to play WR. 84 catches in 2010 to boot. May take a bit to fully develop as a WR, but his return abilities would justify the pick while he does IMO.
I think he's got a shot at going at the bottom of round 1, top of rd 2 to a team like the Packers or Patriots. Excellent returner, dynamic playmaker in the open field, and plenty of size to play WR. 84 catches in 2010 to boot. May take a bit to fully develop as a WR, but his return abilities would justify the pick while he does IMO.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
I would be stunned if he was drafted that early. Just don't see that happening. I'd say third round is best-case scenario, probably more like 4th or 5th the way those middling RBs always fall.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Helu's a tough one to project IMO, but one possibility is a bigger Joe McKnight. McKnight went at 112. Another comp would be as a much faster version of Marion Barber (maybe with less vision). Barber went at 109.
I'd be pretty surprised if Helu makes it past pick 100. Best guess would be 75-90.
I'd be pretty surprised if Helu makes it past pick 100. Best guess would be 75-90.
Barry Jive and The Uptown Five
Footballguy
Other than the fact that he measured 5'10 / 210, ran a 4.47 unofficial & had 10 more reps on the bench than highly touted OT Nate Solder?
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Doesn't have CB hips though.
mcintyre1
Footballguy
Eh, agree to disagree I guess. I thought he looked fine in the drills, and game tape says otherwise. Shutdown corner easily.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Deion and Mayock know more than both of us. Guy was way to high backpeddling and had trouble turning and running.
That height without burner speed. Derrick Mason probably was a slot on draft day. Tall lanky guys are almost always lined up outside in our fictional draft world. Most of Cobbs highlight reels on youtube curiously have him leaping straight up for passes.You'd think he was four feet tall with great ups in some of those. Cobb's worth at least two roster spots maybe more to an NFL coach on cut down day with his tremendous versatility.Defensive players were impressive the last few days. Most of the offensive guys weren't IMO. If I were GM I'd call a meeting to discuss "what if we only draft defense?" with the scouts. Maybe not 100%, but the results of that discussion...eh well, just trying to make a point with this tangent-doubt he goes end of round one.
Barry Jive and The Uptown Five
Footballguy
Probably the best drafting teams are the one's that really draft to positional strengths / BPA. Why reach for sub-par talent in the offensive positions when you can continue to grab defensive players in RDs 4-5-6-7 that would be on par with RDs 2-3-4 in other years?I know I'd bring up that point - if I were in a war room.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Just saw this and realized I screwed it up. Doh! 4.50 obviously, not 5.0.Did he stop for coffee on the second try?
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Justin Blackmon ate him alive.
mcintyre1
Footballguy
No, actually, terrible posting.First, you have to know a thing or two about the defense that Amukamara played in. The Nebraska defense does not match a DB to a player, they give them a side of the field. Blackmon made 2 catches on 3 targets on Amukamara's side of the field that game. 1 was a mistimed jump by Amukamara, but otherwise he was in position. The infamous long TD catch, was actually not Amukamara's fault in the slightest and, in fact, shows his make-up speed. On that particular play, the Huskers were playing a 4 deep zone. The Huskers also use a unique brand of short zone defense called the Match Read Zone, designed to counter quick passes popular in the spread system. In this defense, Amukamara essentially plays exactly how he would if it were in man press coverage up until the receiver leaves his zone. On this long TD play, Amukamara stuck with Blackmon, then as Blackmon went upfield to leave his zone Amukamara released him to Eric Hagg, the deep safety and next zone. Unfortunately, Eric Hagg bit on the flea flicker fake, and wasn't anywhere to be found in coverage. Despite this, Amukamara is able to notice this and catch up to Blakmon in time to be with him for the catch, but then missed the tackle.'onehung said:'BeTheMatch said:
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Wrong. There is a whole youtube out there devoted to the matchup. I watched it. There were way more than three times where Prince was on him. And he got torched repeatedly.No, actually, terrible posting.First, you have to know a thing or two about the defense that Amukamara played in. The Nebraska defense does not match a DB to a player, they give them a side of the field. Blackmon made 2 catches on 3 targets on Amukamara's side of the field that game. 1 was a mistimed jump by Amukamara, but otherwise he was in position. The infamous long TD catch, was actually not Amukamara's fault in the slightest and, in fact, shows his make-up speed. On that particular play, the Huskers were playing a 4 deep zone. The Huskers also use a unique brand of short zone defense called the Match Read Zone, designed to counter quick passes popular in the spread system. In this defense, Amukamara essentially plays exactly how he would if it were in man press coverage up until the receiver leaves his zone. On this long TD play, Amukamara stuck with Blackmon, then as Blackmon went upfield to leave his zone Amukamara released him to Eric Hagg, the deep safety and next zone. Unfortunately, Eric Hagg bit on the flea flicker fake, and wasn't anywhere to be found in coverage. Despite this, Amukamara is able to notice this and catch up to Blakmon in time to be with him for the catch, but then missed the tackle.'onehung said:'BeTheMatch said:
mcintyre1
Footballguy
Link it then.Wrong. There is a whole youtube out there devoted to the matchup. I watched it. There were way more than three times where Prince was on him. And he got torched repeatedly.No, actually, terrible posting.First, you have to know a thing or two about the defense that Amukamara played in. The Nebraska defense does not match a DB to a player, they give them a side of the field. Blackmon made 2 catches on 3 targets on Amukamara's side of the field that game. 1 was a mistimed jump by Amukamara, but otherwise he was in position. The infamous long TD catch, was actually not Amukamara's fault in the slightest and, in fact, shows his make-up speed. On that particular play, the Huskers were playing a 4 deep zone. The Huskers also use a unique brand of short zone defense called the Match Read Zone, designed to counter quick passes popular in the spread system. In this defense, Amukamara essentially plays exactly how he would if it were in man press coverage up until the receiver leaves his zone. On this long TD play, Amukamara stuck with Blackmon, then as Blackmon went upfield to leave his zone Amukamara released him to Eric Hagg, the deep safety and next zone. Unfortunately, Eric Hagg bit on the flea flicker fake, and wasn't anywhere to be found in coverage. Despite this, Amukamara is able to notice this and catch up to Blakmon in time to be with him for the catch, but then missed the tackle.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
I think I saw something like that at nfl.com, one of the combine clips I believe.'mcintyre1 said:Link it then.Wrong. There is a whole youtube out there devoted to the matchup. I watched it. There were way more than three times where Prince was on him. And he got torched repeatedly.No, actually, terrible posting.First, you have to know a thing or two about the defense that Amukamara played in. The Nebraska defense does not match a DB to a player, they give them a side of the field. Blackmon made 2 catches on 3 targets on Amukamara's side of the field that game. 1 was a mistimed jump by Amukamara, but otherwise he was in position. The infamous long TD catch, was actually not Amukamara's fault in the slightest and, in fact, shows his make-up speed. On that particular play, the Huskers were playing a 4 deep zone. The Huskers also use a unique brand of short zone defense called the Match Read Zone, designed to counter quick passes popular in the spread system. In this defense, Amukamara essentially plays exactly how he would if it were in man press coverage up until the receiver leaves his zone. On this long TD play, Amukamara stuck with Blackmon, then as Blackmon went upfield to leave his zone Amukamara released him to Eric Hagg, the deep safety and next zone. Unfortunately, Eric Hagg bit on the flea flicker fake, and wasn't anywhere to be found in coverage. Despite this, Amukamara is able to notice this and catch up to Blakmon in time to be with him for the catch, but then missed the tackle.
