Commish Question (1 Viewer)

[twistd]

We had a trade deadline of 8 PM last night. We wanted to trade Forsett for Breaston. The other team proposed the trade. We wanted to accept it, but neither my partner nor I could be at our computer before the deadline. My partner left a message for the commissioner on his cell phone three hours before the trade deadline. I talked to him two hours before the trade deadline, and he said he didn't want to put the trade through, he wanted us to accept it online. I thought my partner may get to his computer in time to accept the trade. He didn't, so the commissioner rejected the trade. Is it me, or is it part of the commissioner's job to do things like that? Should that trade have been put through?

 

[Godsbrother]

Yes that is the commish's job. If he doesn't put the trade through he is a jerk.

 

[Skipdog77]

The trade absolutely should go through. If you couldn't be at a computer and you called the Commish to tell him that this trade was done and acceptable to both parties before the deadline, then your Commish is being a complete and utter d-bag by not putting it through.

 

[PRAE]

I am not familiar with your rules, so I can only comment on what I would do. If I would have heard from both of the owners (shared team) before the deadline I would have pushed the trade through. Basically all parties had agreed...the trade just needed to be executed. Ultimately it is the owners responsibility but as the commissioner I always try to accommodate in order to keep the league "active".... Just my .02

 

[twistd]

The trade absolutely should go through. If you couldn't be at a computer and you called the Commish to tell him that this trade was done and acceptable to both parties before the deadline, then your Commish is being a complete and utter d-bag by not putting it through.

That is what I thought. I can't figure any rationale for rejecting that trade. I don't think it is an unfair trade. In all reality it isn't even a hugely significant trade. But I just don't get it. I am commissioner in another league and I would have put this through without a second thought.

 

[jobarules]

As commish, if another owner requests me to do something I dont mind doing it for them but I always would want them to post a message on the site or send an email requesting they want me to do it. I had an issue last year where I traded away Deangelo Williams for Dallas Clark (oof) and the other owner said he would do it but couldnt accept the trade cuz he was at church. I told him Id put it through if he wants and he said yes and to please put Williams in his starting lineup. I put it through & Williams ended up getting 3 TDs vs KC and the owner who played against him got all pissy. So now I try to make it a point that they have to send an email or post a message confirming the discussion.

 

[PatrickT]

As a commish, I would have had not issue approving that trade. It was done before the deadline, the rest was just paperwork. Some folks take this too seriously.

 

[twistd]

As commish, if another owner requests me to do something I dont mind doing it for them but I always would want them to post a message on the site or send an email requesting they want me to do it. I had an issue last year where I traded away Deangelo Williams for Dallas Clark (oof) and the other owner said he would do it but couldnt accept the trade cuz he was at church. I told him Id put it through if he wants and he said yes and to please put Williams in his starting lineup. I put it through & Williams ended up getting 3 TDs vs KC and the owner who played against him got all pissy. So now I try to make it a point that they have to send an email or post a message confirming the discussion.

I actually had a similar problem last week. I tried to change the waiver times and messed it up. I wanted first come first serve waivers to start at 6 PM last Thursday, before the game started. I didn't change the day so they were set to start at 6 PM Friday. So one of my teams went in to pick up Alex Smith and drop Garrard. He couldn't do it. So he sent me an email and posted online that he wanted to make that change, before the game started. I didn't see the email until the next morning. However, in the second quarter of the game he posted online that if he didn't have the Smith by the end of the game he didn't want him. I made the change for him when I saw the email, even though it was after the game had been played. He got a little pissy because he said he had posted that if he didn't get him by the end of the game he didn't want him. I told him that you can't change your mind in the middle of the game. He had emailed me and posted that was the move he wanted, so I honored it.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

We had a trade deadline of 8 PM last night. We wanted to trade Forsett for Breaston. The other team proposed the trade. We wanted to accept it, but neither my partner nor I could be at our computer before the deadline. My partner left a message for the commissioner on his cell phone three hours before the trade deadline. I talked to him two hours before the trade deadline, and he said he didn't want to put the trade through, he wanted us to accept it online. I thought my partner may get to his computer in time to accept the trade. He didn't, so the commissioner rejected the trade. Is it me, or is it part of the commissioner's job to do things like that? Should that trade been put through?

I can't figure out why he wouldn't just put it through. Seems strange.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

What do your leagues rules say about this, if anything?

By the way, I think the deal should have gone through unless the rules specifically say the deals have to be done online.

 

[twistd]

We had a trade deadline of 8 PM last night. We wanted to trade Forsett for Breaston. The other team proposed the trade. We wanted to accept it, but neither my partner nor I could be at our computer before the deadline. My partner left a message for the commissioner on his cell phone three hours before the trade deadline. I talked to him two hours before the trade deadline, and he said he didn't want to put the trade through, he wanted us to accept it online. I thought my partner may get to his computer in time to accept the trade. He didn't, so the commissioner rejected the trade. Is it me, or is it part of the commissioner's job to do things like that? Should that trade been put through?

I can't figure out why he wouldn't just put it through. Seems strange.

One factor may be that he announced last night that he is leaving the league after this year. So he is giving up being commissioner, and he won't have a team in the league next year. That may be part of it, I don't know. Maybe he is being a tool because of that. And he is playing our team this week. If he loses he is out of the playoffs. I've always thought he was a pretty good guy, but this bothers me.

 

[Resident A]

Trade should be fine.

The internet is just a tool to allow for management of your team, it's not the end-all be-all. If you told the commish of your trade or put it in online, there's no difference.

The guy is a coxucker if he screws you over on this.

 

[twistd]

What do your leagues rules say about this, if anything? By the way, I think the deal should have gone through unless the rules specifically say the deals have to be done online.

It isn't specifically addressed in the rules. Maybe it should be. As a commissioner in another league, I just try to be as accommodating as possible. I try to make things simpler and easier for the owners. I have one owner who goes pheasant hunting in October, so he is no where near a computer that weekend. He tells me in advance that he is going, and calls me on Sunday morning and gives me his line up. I make the changes for him. I've had guys have trouble with the website. As long as they email me, or call me in advance of whatever deadline it is I make the changes. I think that is how a commissioner should act.

 

[finnmaccoul]

I've been our Commish for years. I tell everyone that if you need something done and can't be at a computer to text me, call me, and the other person invovled, and I would take care of it. I have made lineup changes within these guidelines. Your Commish is an idiot.

 

[big0mar]

Should have just called a neutral friend to log into your account and accept the trade for you.

The commissioner may be in a tough spot, it really depends on how other owners would have felt.

 

[golfguy]

Yes that is the commish's job. If he doesn't put the trade through he is a jerk.

i am sorry but this is just BS. why should a commissioner make themselves avaiable 24/7 for fantasy football?everyone has equal access to do their site i would say. if no one even posted anything then too bad.i gave up the right to do this stuff on my mfl leagues (so i don't get these calls anymore since i can't do anything about it). i got so tired of people calling me at 12:58 on a sunday to make lineup changes.

 

[twistd]

Yes that is the commish's job. If he doesn't put the trade through he is a jerk.

i am sorry but this is just BS. why should a commissioner make themselves avaiable 24/7 for fantasy football?everyone has equal access to do their site i would say. if no one even posted anything then too bad.i gave up the right to do this stuff on my mfl leagues (so i don't get these calls anymore since i can't do anything about it). i got so tired of people calling me at 12:58 on a sunday to make lineup changes.

I agree with you to a point. If owners are doing it regularly, and it is a big pain that would be one thing. In the league I am commish, I don't feel anyone takes advantage of it. I end up making changes maybe two or three times a year. I've done it twice so far this year. I would get tired of it too if it was happening every week. But I don't think it is out of line to ask a commissioners help to facilitate a roster change or a trade.

 

[twistd]

Should have just called a neutral friend to log into your account and accept the trade for you. The commissioner may be in a tough spot, it really depends on how other owners would have felt.

Honestly, I don't think any of the other owners have a problem with it. I mean it is Justin Forsett for Steve Breaston. It is hardly going to change the power structure of the league. It helps us because we need a little more depth at the WR spot after Bowe's suspension. I have a hard time believing that other owners will object. Only one has posted he didn't have a problem with it. But maybe I am wrong and they will have a problem with it.

 

[Wrigley]

Yes that is the commish's job. If he doesn't put the trade through he is a jerk.

i am sorry but this is just BS. why should a commissioner make themselves avaiable 24/7 for fantasy football?everyone has equal access to do their site i would say. if no one even posted anything then too bad.i gave up the right to do this stuff on my mfl leagues (so i don't get these calls anymore since i can't do anything about it). i got so tired of people calling me at 12:58 on a sunday to make lineup changes.

He, unlike the other owners, can still put a trade in after the deadline.

 

[gianmarco]

Doesn't sound like this guy is fit to be a commish.

 

[big0mar]

Should have just called a neutral friend to log into your account and accept the trade for you. The commissioner may be in a tough spot, it really depends on how other owners would have felt.

Honestly, I don't think any of the other owners have a problem with it. I mean it is Justin Forsett for Steve Breaston. It is hardly going to change the power structure of the league. It helps us because we need a little more depth at the WR spot after Bowe's suspension. I have a hard time believing that other owners will object. Only one has posted he didn't have a problem with it. But maybe I am wrong and they will have a problem with it.

I would just bring it to a league vote, and see if you can still get it through.

 

[tomarken]

Barring the unlikely event that there is already a rule specifically requiring trades to be completed on the website (which would be an asinine rule anyway), the trade should go through. Only a completely inept commissioner would think otherwise.

As in most cases, a league vote on the trade is the worst possible idea; however, a league vote to remove the commissioner from his duties may be in order.

 

[twistd]

Barring the unlikely event that there is already a rule specifically requiring trades to be completed on the website (which would be an asinine rule anyway), the trade should go through. Only a completely inept commissioner would think otherwise. As in most cases, a league vote on the trade is the worst possible idea; however, a league vote to remove the commissioner from his duties may be in order.

I have to agree with you. He is leaving at the end of the year anyway. We probably should move up the timetable and get him out now.

 

[Pickle Rody]

Yes that is the commish's job. If he doesn't put the trade through he is a jerk.

Just last night I got phone calls from two teams completing deals before the deadline, and neither could get to the website in time. As soon as I was able to get there myself, I put the trades through....I didn't even need confirmation from every team involved. No single team would ever call me to confirm a trade in a jerk move to towards another owner. If one owner involved in the deal calls me, it's a done deal. It's nice to run a league where there are no true dooshes.

 

[Wu-banger]

Trade should be fine.

The internet is just a tool to allow for management of your team, it's not the end-all be-all. If you told the commish of your trade or put it in online, there's no difference.

The guy is a coxucker if he screws you over on this.

Being slave to a website is re-dam-diculus ....

My league was formed before managment websites and not all owners want to be tied to the computer nor do all owners have equal access to the internet.

If an owner working on a construction site wants to make a change or transaction he needs to be able to have equal access as the guy working in an office in front of a computer for 8 hours.

Our lineup deadline is 1pm ... if an owner is not on his computer (church) Sunday afternoon he should still be able to make the move he wants.

And it is the Commisioners job to see to that....

if making a move for an owner is too much he is obviously not fit for the position.

Say good ridance to this douchey Commish and bring up the issue with the rest of the league.

 

[rvmblack]

Right but then what if you went back and said "Oh, I didnt accept the trade".

You've had 10 weeks to do such a deal and u waited until the last minute to do the trade. You didnt accept it and thats that. It is tough luck. If the trade meant that much to you, someone would have been there to accept it.

I've seen too many situations where there was a verbal agreement and then someone went back on it.

 

[Wu-banger]

Right but then what if you went back and said "Oh, I didnt accept the trade". You've had 10 weeks to do such a deal and u waited until the last minute to do the trade. You didnt accept it and thats that. It is tough luck. If the trade meant that much to you, someone would have been there to accept it. I've seen too many situations where there was a verbal agreement and then someone went back on it.

This is a very bad outlook on the situation.... Are u his Commish ..??

 

[Birdie048]

We had a trade deadline of 8 PM last night. We wanted to trade Forsett for Breaston. The other team proposed the trade. We wanted to accept it, but neither my partner nor I could be at our computer before the deadline. My partner left a message for the commissioner on his cell phone three hours before the trade deadline. I talked to him two hours before the trade deadline, and he said he didn't want to put the trade through, he wanted us to accept it online. I thought my partner may get to his computer in time to accept the trade. He didn't, so the commissioner rejected the trade. Is it me, or is it part of the commissioner's job to do things like that? Should that trade have been put through?

Sorry, but I might disagree with some here, but I commish a 12 team friendly league ($25) and I would not do that transaction. You have situation of "He Said/She Said" where anybody could question the move made by a 3rd party or second guessing the accepting of a trade by the Commish. He subjects himself to all needs to owners for other transactions - waiver moves, line-ups, etc. Our league rules state the Commish will NOT accept trades for owners and that until a trade is accepted on the MFL site, they are not completed transactions. It it the owners responsibility to offer/revoke/accept all trades. Sorry, I agree with the Commish here.

 

[Birdie048]

Trade should be fine.

The internet is just a tool to allow for management of your team, it's not the end-all be-all. If you told the commish of your trade or put it in online, there's no difference.

The guy is a coxucker if he screws you over on this.

Being slave to a website is re-dam-diculus ....

My league was formed before managment websites and not all owners want to be tied to the computer nor do all owners have equal access to the internet.

If an owner working on a construction site wants to make a change or transaction he needs to be able to have equal access as the guy working in an office in front of a computer for 8 hours.

Our lineup deadline is 1pm ... if an owner is not on his computer (church) Sunday afternoon he should still be able to make the move he wants.

And it is the Commisioners job to see to that....

if making a move for an owner is too much he is obviously not fit for the position.

Say good ridance to this douchey Commish and bring up the issue with the rest of the league.

So you want a Slave Commissioner to respond to your every call? Don't expect that in my league. You do it yourself or it does not get done. The Commissioners job is to see that the league is run fair, not to pamper or babysit to the owners who are too lazy to do something they had days or weeks to do themselves.

 

[Northbound Train]

Yes that is the commish's job. If he doesn't put the trade through he is a jerk.