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In my opinion it depends on what you need to give up. He's got some injury flaws, and at this moment, seems like a decision making risk - I can't say he's a "character" risk, but his flawed decision making skills & choice of advisors means he's likely to have issues down the road.I wouldn't give up a quality dynasty starter for him - nobody who is a young POS1 at their position. Maybe a POS2 level guy, but only if I had depth to absorb the hit.
Yeah, I was thinking about targeting Crabtree and/or Marshall because I feel that thier dynasty value is only going to go up. I think guys like these could be key players to target as long as your not giving up too much of your team now.But I haven't followed the Crabtree situation very much and I'm worried I'm taking too much of a risk. I'm only gonna be offering up a 1st rounder next year (Zealots dynasty league) or someone like A.Bryant and something else. If I trade Bryant I could hurt my team this year, but if Crabtree proves not to be a complete bonehead then it might pan out.
Marshall <> Crabtree. Marshall is a guy who you can be fairly confident that if he plays, he'll play well, and will regain value. I wouldn't want to count on him, but he's got a good chance to generate significant value, at which point, you may be able to flip him again.Crabtree is a complete roll of the dice. Completely unproven at the NFL level, and has injury & decision-making issues. He's essentially a first rounder next year at this moment, since he won't contribute meaningfully this year, so if you don't have a good team, it's extra chancy.
Funny. The problem is that he isn't better than DHB....I thought Simmons' take was funny. Not sure if it's a compelling enough argument to side with Crabtree, but, I can see where he's coming from:
The real problem is if he doesn't marry the 10th best looking girl, he likely won't get a better looking one next year.Funny. The problem is that he isn't better than DHB....I thought Simmons' take was funny. Not sure if it's a compelling enough argument to side with Crabtree, but, I can see where he's coming from:
Yep, russell signed after Oakland's week one game.fsufan said:
I probably would have dropped him already. In a 3 player keeper he's not gonna be one of the three and I think his chances of seriously contributing this season are almost nil.
he is still a rookie if he has never dressed for an NFL game.
This is true.and this may be the reason the Raiders passed on this guy too. I expect they had talks with the agent prior to the draft (as teams often do)and asked what it would take to sign him if he falls to them.The answer was likely not to their liking and they went another direction.
They should but probably can't because the NFLPA will have a hissy fit. Best to just do nothing more and move on. Their offer is correct for the slot he was picked. He's an idiot anyway. They are actually better off without him. He obviously is all about $ and that is exactly the type of player you don't want. Singletary would make him cry again anyway and he knows it.
BTW, the longest holdout in recent memory was Bryant McKinnie. That as in 2002. Dude didn't sign until Nov 2nd. link.McKinnie walked it right up until the deadline. (Would have become inelligible to play on Nov 12th.) Sounds like Crabtree is headed down the same path.
Kelly Stouffer sat out the whole year after the 1987 draft.
I'll hold him for 2 more weeks or so then drop him. I have no cap room left & would like to make some trades/moves and would need to drop him or Mendenhall to do it.
You need to hire a better rookie scout for your team.
In a sense, they have already ceased negotiations. They told parker, here is the offer. Take it over leave it. Some beat writers believe the 49ers will start lowering the offer after the first game. Since he probably won't do much this season anyway after missing all of training camp.Also, i guess there is some rule the 49ers CANNOT draft him again next season. If he doesn't sign by November 17th, he can't play this season. They can try to trade him after March 1st. If they can't find a suitor for him, they lose his rights a week before the draft which will allow him to have a "pro day" for team scouts. Up until a week before the draft, he cannot workout or have any contact with another team.
Based on MyFantasyLeague, they don't see it that way. Lot's of guys who say have CFL experience don't appear as rookies even though they have never dressed for an NFL game. Same with guys that might not make the cut for a year or two...if they finally make a roster, 3rd year out of college...they are not a rookie.It's got to be their first year out of college.
That is wrong. His rights expire on the day of the draft, so he could have a pro-day the morning of, but not sooner.From the CBA (via Matt Maiocco's Blog):
And for the question about whether he could play in the UFL/CFL?
So it won't happen.
Funny thing is Seymour and Craptree share the same idiot agent. Even if Craptree signs, I hope Clements knocks that b*tch back into the draft during his first practice.
Heh, I was not aware that SF would not be allowed to draft him again next year. My new plan for SF is to let him go into the draft, and then trade for him after another team selects him. Also, players like Crabtree honestly deserve $0. Your living a dream and holding out for what? Just take the guaranteed millions which is still way more money than I can ever hope to earn in my lifetime working at a job that is a lot less fun.
Singletary doesn't give a damn about Crabtree's contract or posse or attitude off the field. If Crabtree somehow signs soon, Singletary will treat him the exact same way as everyone else, and support him as long as he comes to play. Look at the crap he's given Vernon Davis, and he just named him a Team Captain. However, if Crabtree does sign, and comes in acting like Brandon Marshall, or like a Diva, then you are right in that Singletary will give Crabtree a boatload of crap non-stop.
Plus, Singletary held out his rookie year as well.
There were diva rumors before the draft but they still picked him.
If you look up buffoon in the dictionary you will see Craptree's picture.Andy Herron said:
I agree that he'll sign somepoint this season but if I were san fran I'd sign matt jones to a 5 year/$15 mil deal, call up crabtree, tell him what I'd done and that I'm pulling my offer and wish him luck in next year's draft. Jones is taller, bigger, faster and more experienced and therefore better prepaired to make an impactAs I believe has been mentioned ad nauseum, he 100% would get LESS money if he reenters the draft next season...likely millions less. This guy would have to be a complete and utter clown to go through with that. It's a shame as he truly was an outstanding college talent. I'd be shocked if he didn't sign w/SF in the next week or 2. Of course, I expected him to sign before the season started, so what do I know?
On the other hand, based on his attitude, they are lucky if he never signs with them because he is demonstrating that ihe is a bust all day and twice on Sundays. Save cash, and he wasn't going to help them now this year anyway. What a loser.
