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[BuckeyeArt]

NFL Headlines

Report: Crabtree won't sign until September

A "highly-placed NFL source" recently told the San Jose Mercury News that Michael Crabtree isn't likely to sign until close to the 49ers' Sept. 13 season opener.

Both sides are entrenching. Crabtree isn't going to sit out the season, but his agent won't budge from his slot-busting demands until he's forced to. If Crabtree wants to sign before September, a change in representation may be his only option. Meanwhile, the outrageous demands have also the kept the No. 8, 9, and 11 picks from signing. Aug. 12 - 11:03 am et

Source: San Jose Mercury News

This is just dumb. The 8, 9, and 11 guys are free to sign whenever they want. Just because Crabtree is being a blockhead doesn't mean they are required to follow suit.

It's getting a little old listening to the media blaming Crabtree for keeping the others from signing.

 

[Defending Champs]

NFL Headlines

Report: Crabtree won't sign until September

A "highly-placed NFL source" recently told the San Jose Mercury News that Michael Crabtree isn't likely to sign until close to the 49ers' Sept. 13 season opener.

Both sides are entrenching. Crabtree isn't going to sit out the season, but his agent won't budge from his slot-busting demands until he's forced to. If Crabtree wants to sign before September, a change in representation may be his only option. Meanwhile, the outrageous demands have also the kept the No. 8, 9, and 11 picks from signing. Aug. 12 - 11:03 am et

Source: San Jose Mercury News

This is just dumb. The 8, 9, and 11 guys are free to sign whenever they want. Just because Crabtree is being a blockhead doesn't mean they are required to follow suit.

<_< It's getting a little old listening to the media blaming Crabtree for keeping the others from signing.

Agreed, they are all playing the same game of chicken, who turns/signs first.

 

[Righetti]

I got Crabtree in a rookie draft for our dynasty league last night knowing he would probably not contribute this year... anybody have any new insight on this contract thing

 

[Righetti]

It's getting awfully close to the start of the season and there is apparently still not a whole lot going on in talks between the tenth overall pick in this year's draft, Michael Crabtree(notes), and the San Francisco 49ers.Crabtree apparently wants more dough than seventh-overall pick receiver Darrius Heyward-Bay got from the Oakland Raiders. But the Niners supposedly don't want to give him anything more than ninth-overall pick defensive lineman B.J. Raji(notes) got from the Green Bay Packers.Any way you slice it, Crabtree is still not signed. And his agent is blaming Crabtree for the holdout, according to ProFootballTalk, since the agent doesn't want his chances hurt to sign future players.Even if Crabtree gets signed right now, he's not likely to be as good a player for San Francisco this season as he would have been if he had just signed his contract straightway. Of course, there is still a chance that a deal just won't happend and he'll end up in the 2010 draft pool.

Source: ProFootballTalk

 

[Knobs]

I really can't imagine Crabtree is dumb enough to hold out the year. He'll sign at some point. Still lotsa value for dynasty leagues. Imo he never had much value for a redraft anyway.

 

[Masked Vigilante]

I hope he doesn't sign and gets taken in the 2nd round by some team next year. I hope he loses millions.

Take your damn $18 million in guaranteed money or GTFO.

 

[One]

I really can't imagine Crabtree is dumb enough to hold out the year.

Have you heard him speak?

 

[lod01]

I hope he doesn't sign and gets taken in the 2nd round by some team next year. I hope he loses millions. Take your damn $18 million in guaranteed money or GTFO.

There won't be any reason to take him in the 1st round in 2010. Who would want to waste their pick on this idiot if he holds out. You would no doubt get a rotten apple who is only interested in being overpaid. He certainly will not get the $ he is getting if he signs this year.He will eventually sign this year but he will suck.

 

[Ray_T]

I hope he doesn't sign and gets taken in the 2nd round by some team next year. I hope he loses millions. Take your damn $18 million in guaranteed money or GTFO.

There won't be any reason to take him in the 1st round in 2010. Who would want to waste their pick on this idiot if he holds out. You would no doubt get a rotten apple who is only interested in being overpaid. He certainly will not get the $ he is getting if he signs this year.He will eventually sign this year but he will suck.

He's holding out because he is injured and there is no reason not to try to squeeze the team for more cash.if the team does not budge, I think he would be dumb not to take the cash. the odds of him getting a higher draft position with a year out of football is slim. and the odds of him making this cash back is also slim.If he actually holds out and re-enters the draft I'd suggest he needs to fire his agent for being an idiot.

 

[BeTheMatch]

I hope he doesn't sign and gets taken in the 2nd round by some team next year. I hope he loses millions. Take your damn $18 million in guaranteed money or GTFO.

There won't be any reason to take him in the 1st round in 2010. Who would want to waste their pick on this idiot if he holds out. You would no doubt get a rotten apple who is only interested in being overpaid. He certainly will not get the $ he is getting if he signs this year.He will eventually sign this year but he will suck.

He's holding out because he is injured and there is no reason not to try to squeeze the team for more cash.if the team does not budge, I think he would be dumb not to take the cash. the odds of him getting a higher draft position with a year out of football is slim. and the odds of him making this cash back is also slim.If he actually holds out and re-enters the draft I'd suggest he needs to fire his agent for being an idiot.

Isn't his agent his cousin? I really think that's the problem with Crabtree - he's stupid AND surrounds himself with stupid people. I get that people have held out before. But he's holding out because he wants more money than guys drafted in front of him. I can understand Andre Smith's holdout on the other hand, because Cinci is trying to pay him less than guys drafted after him. But Crabtree is a moron and surrounded by morons and/or punks. This was the fear going into the draft, and it's already materializing.

 

[Knobs]

His agent is not related to him. His adviser is his cousin.

 

[BeTheMatch]

His agent is not related to him. His adviser is his cousin.

Ah, sorry. My bad.

 

[Masked Vigilante]

I hope he doesn't sign and gets taken in the 2nd round by some team next year. I hope he loses millions. Take your damn $18 million in guaranteed money or GTFO.

There won't be any reason to take him in the 1st round in 2010. Who would want to waste their pick on this idiot if he holds out. You would no doubt get a rotten apple who is only interested in being overpaid. He certainly will not get the $ he is getting if he signs this year.He will eventually sign this year but he will suck.

He's holding out because he is injured and there is no reason not to try to squeeze the team for more cash.if the team does not budge, I think he would be dumb not to take the cash. the odds of him getting a higher draft position with a year out of football is slim. and the odds of him making this cash back is also slim.If he actually holds out and re-enters the draft I'd suggest he needs to fire his agent for being an idiot.

Isn't his agent his cousin? I really think that's the problem with Crabtree - he's stupid AND surrounds himself with stupid people. I get that people have held out before. But he's holding out because he wants more money than guys drafted in front of him. I can understand Andre Smith's holdout on the other hand, because Cinci is trying to pay him less than guys drafted after him. But Crabtree is a moron and surrounded by morons and/or punks. This was the fear going into the draft, and it's already materializing.

Yeah you know its bad when your agent is distancing himself from you.

 

[Max Power]

Anyone thinking about buying low here?

Owners...what would you be looking for at this point?

 

[BuckeyeArt]

Anyone thinking about buying low here?Owners...what would you be looking for at this point?

I can't imagine a dynasty owner giving up on him so soon. I don't think many expected him to become one of their starters this year and unless he holds out all year, it doesn't affect him next year. I'd still want something very close to what I paid for him.

 

[Stealthycat]

any news ?

I've invested in Crabtree stock today - I can't imagine a more high risk/reward player to trade for right now

 

[CiscoKid]

I really don't understand why SF wouldn't specify to Crabtree via his agent that the offer that they have made is their best and final offer, and one that the team feels is quite fair based on the slot at which he was picked. Because he clearly has much less of a chance contributing to the team this year each day he holds out, the offer will reduce by x (say $20,000) for every day that he holds out from this point forward. To me, this sounds like common sense because he truly is hurting his own value at this point by demanding more than his slot dictates - he really shouldn't be worth the same money in September that he was offered in June.

The $20k / day seems like a reasonable number based on the reported 20 millon, 5 year offer - that would break out to about 250k per game. IMHO, the fans will back the team so long as they feel the offer was fair, which I think the vast majority do in this case.

 

[forbidden doughnut]

I've invested in Crabtree stock today - I can't imagine a more high risk/reward player to trade for right now

I'm in the 10 spot of my dynasty draft and I'm scared he will drop to me and I'll have to make a choice between him and someone I really like like Davis. Talk about gut checks.

 

[Max Power]

I've invested in Crabtree stock today - I can't imagine a more high risk/reward player to trade for right now

I'm in the 10 spot of my dynasty draft and I'm scared he will drop to me and I'll have to make a choice between him and someone I really like like Davis. Talk about gut checks.

What?!? Crabtree vs James Davis is a no brainer IMO. Look at the big picture and not just this season.

 

[BR33ZE]

So it looks like the Raiders actually did something smart by skipping on this guy?

 

[Todem]

I hope he doesn't sign and gets taken in the 2nd round by some team next year. I hope he loses millions. Take your damn $18 million in guaranteed money or GTFO.

This kid is getting just bad advice right now....it is just silly.Screw him.....let him go back into the draft...he will lose millions if he does. Can you say dumb ###?

 

[Todem]

So it looks like the Raiders actually did something smart by skipping on this guy?

I am sure they had talked with his agent and figured...ok guy is moron...moving on.Crabtree is a #######.

 

[Ray_T]

So it looks like the Raiders actually did something smart by skipping on this guy?

I'm betting money that the Raiders inquired what it would take to sign him prior to drafting him. when they got their answer they decided it wasnt worth it.of course, this is just speculation. maybe the raiders had no interest. But I wouldnt bet on that one.

 

[forbidden doughnut]

I've invested in Crabtree stock today - I can't imagine a more high risk/reward player to trade for right now

I'm in the 10 spot of my dynasty draft and I'm scared he will drop to me and I'll have to make a choice between him and someone I really like like Davis. Talk about gut checks.

What?!? Crabtree vs James Davis is a no brainer IMO. Look at the big picture and not just this season.

I don't know that I have the roster space to just sit and hold onto him all year long if he holds out. I may not even have room for Davis.

 

[Raider Nation]

So it looks like the Raiders actually did something smart by skipping on this guy?

Only if we had taken Raji.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Guys talking about skipping on this guy in dynasty leagues will be kicking themselves in another year. His holdout has nothing to do with what the guy can do on the field. He is still a top three pick in rookie drafts IMO.

 

[Raider Nation]

I really can't imagine Crabtree is dumb enough to hold out the year.

Have you heard him speak?

Sure have. None of this is surprising.

 

[T Bell]

Someone needs to inform Mr. Crabtree of the old saying that, "Pigs get fat, and hogs get slaughtered."

He's complaining about money he most certainly won't get next year if he decides not to sign this year. Stupid.

 

[steelcityman]

1) Is he that good? He was in college, so was Troy Edwards.

2) if he signs with 49ers, will he produce? Not so much IMO, qbs all suck.

3) Do you stash him on a keeper roster this year? hope he gets drafted middle/late first round next year, by NYG, Steelers, Pats...and has a nice career, or will the crap teams like St Lou gobble him up early(again)? Raiders? HA!!! That would be awesome, for someone.

4) Avoid at all costs?

 

[baconisgood]

So it looks like the Raiders actually did something smart by skipping on this guy?

I'm betting money that the Raiders inquired what it would take to sign him prior to drafting him. when they got their answer they decided it wasnt worth it.of course, this is just speculation. maybe the raiders had no interest. But I wouldnt bet on that one.

The amount of $ it took to sign DHB would probably sign Crabtree.

 

[inzanitee]

2) if he signs with 49ers, will he produce? Not so much IMO, qbs all suck.

Ancient Ike Bruce put up very respectable #s last year with the SF QBs. I think you may be mistaken on this one.

 

[Masked Vigilante]

2) if he signs with 49ers, will he produce?

Rookie WR don't have much of a fantasy impact. Calvin Johnson went for 48/756/4. Larry Fitzgerald had a solid rookie year going for 58/780/8. But I don't think Crabtree is as talented as either of these guys. Add on the fact that he's playing in a smashmouth offense and has had no practice with his team so far.

 

[lod01]

Crabtree........ .....idiot. This moron won't have any impact ever if he keeps going at his current pace of stupidity.

 

[Balco]

Guys talking about skipping on this guy in dynasty leagues will be kicking themselves in another year. His holdout has nothing to do with what the guy can do on the field. He is still a top three pick in rookie drafts IMO.

I took him at # 4 in my dynasty draft last week. He is an immense talent.

 

[Balco]

Crabtree........ .....idiot. This moron won't have any impact ever if he keeps going at his current pace of stupidity.

Ever? Because he is not going to sign until the season he will never have an impact? Interesting take.

 

[Balco]

1) Is he that good? He was in college, so was Troy Edwards.2) if he signs with 49ers, will he produce? Not so much IMO, qbs all suck.3) Do you stash him on a keeper roster this year? hope he gets drafted middle/late first round next year, by NYG, Steelers, Pats...and has a nice career, or will the crap teams like St Lou gobble him up early(again)? Raiders? HA!!! That would be awesome, for someone. 4) Avoid at all costs?

1. Yes. One of the best receiving talents to come out in the last ten years.2. Yes. You don't need Peyton Manning to be a suucessful WR (see Johnson, Calvin).3. He will not sit out the who season.4. In redraft? At this point? Probably. In a dynasty, don't let him fall.

 

[5Rings]

I really don't understand why SF wouldn't specify to Crabtree via his agent that the offer that they have made is their best and final offer, and one that the team feels is quite fair based on the slot at which he was picked.

Wait...you seriously think they did not do this?

 

[Bri]

Crabtree........ .....idiot. This moron won't have any impact ever if he keeps going at his current pace of stupidity.

Ever? Because he is not going to sign until the season he will never have an impact? Interesting take.

I think you missed the last part...if

 

[T Bell]

Guys talking about skipping on this guy in dynasty leagues will be kicking themselves in another year. His holdout has nothing to do with what the guy can do on the field. He is still a top three pick in rookie drafts IMO.

I took him at # 4 in my dynasty draft last week. He is an immense talent.

I'm all for trying to draft talent, but if this guy misses a year of practice and play I think it's going to hurt him.

 

[Touchdown Syndrome]

Crabtree........ .....idiot. This moron won't have any impact ever if he keeps going at his current pace of stupidity.

Ever? Because he is not going to sign until the season he will never have an impact? Interesting take.

I think you missed the last part...if

So basically you're saying Crabtree won't have any impact ever if he keeps refusing to sign an NFL contract.Ummm....I agree?

It seems like every couple of seasons there's chatter about the possibility of a late signee sitting out a whole season to reenter the next draft. Of course, it never happens, so it's seems silly, IMO, to even discuss it as a realistic outcome.

Crabtree will absolutely sign a contract, but, as has been mentioned, it's unlikely that he'll have a significant fantasy impact in '09. He is, however, an elite WR talent. Over the past 10 NFL drafts the only prospects I can recall who were more highly regarded were Fitz and Calvin. I wouldn't let these current contract shenanigans blind me to his potential.

 

[Jack Burton]

There is no way Crabtree will sit out a whole year and re-enter the draft in 2010. Its not a viable option and for the agent to even suggest it is ridiculously moronic. He will sign a contract this year or risk never playing in the NFL. I have #6 rookie pick and I really hope he falls to me.

 

[Balco]

Guys talking about skipping on this guy in dynasty leagues will be kicking themselves in another year. His holdout has nothing to do with what the guy can do on the field. He is still a top three pick in rookie drafts IMO.

I took him at # 4 in my dynasty draft last week. He is an immense talent.

I'm all for trying to draft talent, but if this guy misses a year of practice and play I think it's going to hurt him.

You really believe he will sit out the whole year?

 

[BeTheMatch]

There is no way Crabtree will sit out a whole year and re-enter the draft in 2010. Its not a viable option and for the agent to even suggest it is ridiculously moronic. He will sign a contract this year or risk never playing in the NFL. I have #6 rookie pick and I really hope he falls to me.

I'm not saying it's likely or even more than a remote possibility, but I think to dismiss it as impossible is not smart either. Let's not forget, Crabtree is "ridiculously moronic" to use your words. Anything is possible.

 

[Bri]

Crabtree........ .....idiot. This moron won't have any impact ever if he keeps going at his current pace of stupidity.

Ever? Because he is not going to sign until the season he will never have an impact? Interesting take.

I think you missed the last part...if

So basically you're saying Crabtree won't have any impact ever if he keeps refusing to sign an NFL contract.Ummm....I agree?

It seems like every couple of seasons there's chatter about the possibility of a late signee sitting out a whole season to reenter the next draft. Of course, it never happens, so it's seems silly, IMO, to even discuss it as a realistic outcome.

Crabtree will absolutely sign a contract, but, as has been mentioned, it's unlikely that he'll have a significant fantasy impact in '09. He is, however, an elite WR talent. Over the past 10 NFL drafts the only prospects I can recall who were more highly regarded were Fitz and Calvin. I wouldn't let these current contract shenanigans blind me to his potential.

really? you got that from the phrase I typed?

 

[T Bell]

Guys talking about skipping on this guy in dynasty leagues will be kicking themselves in another year. His holdout has nothing to do with what the guy can do on the field. He is still a top three pick in rookie drafts IMO.

I took him at # 4 in my dynasty draft last week. He is an immense talent.

I'm all for trying to draft talent, but if this guy misses a year of practice and play I think it's going to hurt him.

You really believe he will sit out the whole year?

I don't pretend to understand what this cat is thinking, but at this point he's being so unrealistic and is obviously receiving such bad advice that who knows what will happen. He's already basically shot his rookie season because of all of the missed reps and practice time, even if he reports.

 

[derek19]

Man, #### crabgrass. Let this ####er sit out the whole season and get drafted in the 2nd round. ####### #####. Get me ####### excited niners drafted him and he pulls this ####. Man, #### crabgrass.

 

[5Rings]

Man, #### crabgrass. Let this ####er sit out the whole season and get drafted in the 2nd round. ####### #####. Get me ####### excited niners drafted him and he pulls this ####. Man, #### crabgrass.

i'm with you derek

 

[Zilly QB]

When was the last draftee to not sign and wait until the next draft?

I do believe he has talent, but he will not show it this year. REDRAFT = BUST

 

[One]

Man, #### crabgrass. Let this ####er sit out the whole season and get drafted in the 2nd round. ####### #####. Get me ####### excited niners drafted him and he pulls this ####. Man, #### crabgrass.

I feel ya man, but you'll forget as soon as he's in uniform.

 

[derek19]

Man, #### crabgrass. Let this ####er sit out the whole season and get drafted in the 2nd round. ####### #####. Get me ####### excited niners drafted him and he pulls this ####. Man, #### crabgrass.

I feel ya man, but you'll forget as soon as he's in uniform.

Are you kidding me?? The son of a ##### won't do #### his first ####### year cause he's so far behind. AND THEN!! His ######## will probably holdout next season for more money!!