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I'm having a really tough time with my 4 1/2 year old son and I figured I would get some of your inputs on it because I'm going insane.

My wife had our third child 2 weeks ago and since we brought her home my son has been extremely rough with her... shaking the crap out of her bassinet when we have our heads turned, pinching her, hitting her, jumping near her head when my wife is feeding her... etc.

I know he's just doing it for the attention because he's jealous (he's always been really attached to my wife) but it's getting to the point where I'm worried he's really going to hurt her if we slip up and turn our heads for a minute. The 2 year old has been fine, no issues at all.

We've been getting after him in a lot of different ways... at first I was patiently explaining why he cant, distracting him, taking away toys, putting him in his room etc, but the more it goes on im getting more concerned and its turned in to yelling and whacking his ### (not good I know and I feel really bad about it) but nothing is working and its just escalating.

Anyone ever go through this? Im really at a loss other than having him or her in a locked room all day. Any help would be very much appreciated.
If you can, have your wife take him out for some time together. It can be as simple as going to McDonalds for lunch for a half hour. Just so he can feel special with her for a little bit. At that point she can talk to him about how important big brothers are, etc.
Good idea, I'll have her try that. Thanks ChiefD
Your welcome. Been through this twice, and it's a stressful time for young kids. Mine are 9, 7 and 5 now, so they of similar age as yours. My wife just went over the top with the other child when the new one was introduced. Having them "help" with feedings, changing diapers, handing them toys, etc.

 
After reading through this thread, I wish it was possible to just freeze my 10 month old boy right now. Yeesh
Yeah, kids are great, teenagers are a whole another breed of problems. My 15 year old daughter is smart, 4.7 GPA, ballet dancer for 12 years, drama, band. She is awesome at pretty much everything she does and extremely popular at school. But since boys have entered the picture, 2-3 years ago, man has my stress level gone through the roof.I think the problem is, even though I am 45, I remember what it is like to be a 16-17 year old boy. So it is really hard to just let go and say sure you can go to the movies or dinner with this 17 year old boy because you know what the ulterior motive is on his part.

We have great, very open conversations in our house. She tells us every little detail about every one of her friends and believe me, I don't want/need to know some of this stuff. We have discussed birth control and told her we'd rather her be honest and safe if she wants to go down that road, but she is embarrassed by it and doesn't want to go to our primary care doctor who has seen her all her life. She has been open (almost too honest according to my wife) about what she has done with guys and she insists she has never had actual sex, but this new guy she is seeing is the first one to actually have a car and I can already see problems on the horizon.

We are not controlling parents, but lately I have felt like I have had to become more and more like that. Technology can be great and "the find my iphone" app is a wonderful thing. Just because of this new boy, if she tells us a story about some activity after school and if it just doesn't seem to add up, a quick check tells up all we need to know. Three times now with this new guy she has been somewhere other than school. Now the first time we didn't say anything, I told my wife to just let it slide and we will let her hang herself the next time being she thinks she got away with something. Sure enough, she was somewhere she shouldn't have been after a late school activity (a park at 8:00 pm) and then came home and lied. Well, there were enough other holes in her story that finally she confessed and we ended up punishing her. But the next week at school, she says she has this drama meeting and she lies again. So at 4:30 pm, I leave work and drive to the park and see his car. I didn't go up to it, because god knows what's going on, but she knew I was there. I used the whole, "I was just driving to pick you up at the school and saw you there," line. So now I have to punish her again.

The whole thing about this is we don't want her to know that we are using the find my iphone app because once she catches on she can leave her phone somewhere else, turn off location services, etc. So when she was really young I told her (yes I was joking!!) that we had her micro-chipped. I said back then that people do that to their pets so why not to their kids? The problem is, I think she actually believes me to this day. Now as much as I would like to continue to run with this story, I don't want her going to school telling this story to her teachers. It is kind of a running joke in the house--but she still hasn't figured out how I found her in that park that day.

I guess I am just at a loss. She is a great kid and I would like to believe my wife and I are great parents. She always tells us how jealous all her friends are of her having us for parents, and judging by the fact a lot of them hang out here, I hope that is the case. The lying and gosh knows what are something I know a lot of teens do, but I am trying to craft the appropriate punishments. I know saying you can't see this boy again will just result in her wanting to see him more. She dropped her iphone in the toilet yesterday, so taking that away has already happened by her own account. I told her I was going to talk to her about punishments this weekend, but I did tell her if anything else happens. the next leap will be she is barred from getting her drivers license (which she wants in July) until next summer.

Ugh--sorry for the length, but any advice on how you all have dealt with your teen daughters would be great.

(oh, and we have an 11 year old daughter that is starting to emulate some of these behaviors as far as attitude and so forth)
This post is an excellent summary of why I am absolutely terrified of having a daughter.

 
KiddLattimer said:
I'm having a really tough time with my 4 1/2 year old son and I figured I would get some of your inputs on it because I'm going insane.

My wife had our third child 2 weeks ago and since we brought her home my son has been extremely rough with her... shaking the crap out of her bassinet when we have our heads turned, pinching her, hitting her, jumping near her head when my wife is feeding her... etc.

I know he's just doing it for the attention because he's jealous (he's always been really attached to my wife) but it's getting to the point where I'm worried he's really going to hurt her if we slip up and turn our heads for a minute. The 2 year old has been fine, no issues at all.

We've been getting after him in a lot of different ways... at first I was patiently explaining why he cant, distracting him, taking away toys, putting him in his room etc, but the more it goes on im getting more concerned and its turned in to yelling and whacking his ### (not good I know and I feel really bad about it) but nothing is working and its just escalating.

Anyone ever go through this? Im really at a loss other than having him or her in a locked room all day. Any help would be very much appreciated.
Stop hitting him and instead make time to do something positive with him. He should be able to get some individual time with his mom. Get him involved in some activities.

 
My 2.5 year old son only says a handful of words. Mom, Dad, Yes, No. I know that each kid is different, but man, this is starting to get me stressed out.

 
My 2.5 year old son only says a handful of words. Mom, Dad, Yes, No. I know that each kid is different, but man, this is starting to get me stressed out.
my nephew didn't say much more than that until he was 4+.

the kid is a freaking genius at 12 and has no problems speaking.

hard not to stress about developmental milestones, but do your best not to. Unless you're seeing other developmental hiccups that indicate something else is going on, he'll get there.

 
My 2.5 year old son only says a handful of words. Mom, Dad, Yes, No. I know that each kid is different, but man, this is starting to get me stressed out.
my nephew didn't say much more than that until he was 4+.

the kid is a freaking genius at 12 and has no problems speaking.

hard not to stress about developmental milestones, but do your best not to. Unless you're seeing other developmental hiccups that indicate something else is going on, he'll get there.
No offense GB, but this is not good advice. Speech Delay is one of the lead indicators for ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder). It does not mean speech delay = ASD but if it does, early intervention is pretty critical. In short, if you're concerned, go see a specialist and get the kid evaluated. If it's nothing, no harm done. If it's something at least you know and you can focus the appropriate resources.

 
My 2.5 year old son only says a handful of words. Mom, Dad, Yes, No. I know that each kid is different, but man, this is starting to get me stressed out.
My son is about 2 1/2 and really doesn't even say "Mama" or "Dada". :(

That said, he had something in his hand yesterday... asked him what it was and he said "paint... brush". Sure enough that's what it was.

I blame part of the "deficiency" on his older sister. She's 4 1/2 and just loves to be involved in everything. When I ask him to say something, half the time she'll just blurt it out before he has a chance to process and respond.

I can tell he's going to be a technical genius. He wants to figure out how everything works.

Like Floppo said, unless there are other developmental issues you kind of just have to wait it out. Of course, it doesn't hurt to have him evaluated. If our little guy isn't showing verbal progress in the next couple of months we are going to have him evaluated.

 
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After reading through this thread, I wish it was possible to just freeze my 10 month old boy right now. Yeesh
Yeah, kids are great, teenagers are a whole another breed of problems. My 15 year old daughter is smart, 4.7 GPA, ballet dancer for 12 years, drama, band. She is awesome at pretty much everything she does and extremely popular at school. But since boys have entered the picture, 2-3 years ago, man has my stress level gone through the roof.I think the problem is, even though I am 45, I remember what it is like to be a 16-17 year old boy. So it is really hard to just let go and say sure you can go to the movies or dinner with this 17 year old boy because you know what the ulterior motive is on his part.

We have great, very open conversations in our house. She tells us every little detail about every one of her friends and believe me, I don't want/need to know some of this stuff. We have discussed birth control and told her we'd rather her be honest and safe if she wants to go down that road, but she is embarrassed by it and doesn't want to go to our primary care doctor who has seen her all her life. She has been open (almost too honest according to my wife) about what she has done with guys and she insists she has never had actual sex, but this new guy she is seeing is the first one to actually have a car and I can already see problems on the horizon.

We are not controlling parents, but lately I have felt like I have had to become more and more like that. Technology can be great and "the find my iphone" app is a wonderful thing. Just because of this new boy, if she tells us a story about some activity after school and if it just doesn't seem to add up, a quick check tells up all we need to know. Three times now with this new guy she has been somewhere other than school. Now the first time we didn't say anything, I told my wife to just let it slide and we will let her hang herself the next time being she thinks she got away with something. Sure enough, she was somewhere she shouldn't have been after a late school activity (a park at 8:00 pm) and then came home and lied. Well, there were enough other holes in her story that finally she confessed and we ended up punishing her. But the next week at school, she says she has this drama meeting and she lies again. So at 4:30 pm, I leave work and drive to the park and see his car. I didn't go up to it, because god knows what's going on, but she knew I was there. I used the whole, "I was just driving to pick you up at the school and saw you there," line. So now I have to punish her again.

The whole thing about this is we don't want her to know that we are using the find my iphone app because once she catches on she can leave her phone somewhere else, turn off location services, etc. So when she was really young I told her (yes I was joking!!) that we had her micro-chipped. I said back then that people do that to their pets so why not to their kids? The problem is, I think she actually believes me to this day. Now as much as I would like to continue to run with this story, I don't want her going to school telling this story to her teachers. It is kind of a running joke in the house--but she still hasn't figured out how I found her in that park that day.

I guess I am just at a loss. She is a great kid and I would like to believe my wife and I are great parents. She always tells us how jealous all her friends are of her having us for parents, and judging by the fact a lot of them hang out here, I hope that is the case. The lying and gosh knows what are something I know a lot of teens do, but I am trying to craft the appropriate punishments. I know saying you can't see this boy again will just result in her wanting to see him more. She dropped her iphone in the toilet yesterday, so taking that away has already happened by her own account. I told her I was going to talk to her about punishments this weekend, but I did tell her if anything else happens. the next leap will be she is barred from getting her drivers license (which she wants in July) until next summer.

Ugh--sorry for the length, but any advice on how you all have dealt with your teen daughters would be great.

(oh, and we have an 11 year old daughter that is starting to emulate some of these behaviors as far as attitude and so forth)
This post is an excellent summary of why I am absolutely terrified of having a daughter.
My daughter is 5, I'm breaking out into a cold sweat here.

 
My 2.5 year old son only says a handful of words. Mom, Dad, Yes, No. I know that each kid is different, but man, this is starting to get me stressed out.
Opinions are like you know whats, everybody has got one. I see Drifter has put in his two cents, and I certainly wouldn't say he is wrong. However, this is what we did. I don't remember his age, but my older son was definitely delayed in speech. We were very stressed out, and our Dr at the time (very laid back about everything) said it was no big deal. We had to find an alternative, so we were given the idea of teaching him sign language. He needed a larger vocabulary because he was obviously having more complex thoughts than he could vocalize, so child, mom and dad were all very stressed. The sign language worked miracles. We only taught him ten words or so, but he could say things like food, hungry, thirsty, more, all done, mom, dad, and probably a couple I've forgotten. After just a brief time of using those, his speech developed rapidly (wether or not the sign language triggered that, I don't know).

I'm not sure if being able to communicate via sign language has any bearing on one's likeness for being on the Autism spectrum, but it might help in the short term to ease the frustration of communication.

 
My 2.5 year old son only says a handful of words. Mom, Dad, Yes, No. I know that each kid is different, but man, this is starting to get me stressed out.
my nephew didn't say much more than that until he was 4+.

the kid is a freaking genius at 12 and has no problems speaking.

hard not to stress about developmental milestones, but do your best not to. Unless you're seeing other developmental hiccups that indicate something else is going on, he'll get there.
No offense GB, but this is not good advice. Speech Delay is one of the lead indicators for ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder). It does not mean speech delay = ASD but if it does, early intervention is pretty critical. In short, if you're concerned, go see a specialist and get the kid evaluated. If it's nothing, no harm done. If it's something at least you know and you can focus the appropriate resources.
Maybe bring it up with his regular Dr. on a regular visit before leaping to a specialist.

 
My 2.5 year old son only says a handful of words. Mom, Dad, Yes, No. I know that each kid is different, but man, this is starting to get me stressed out.
my nephew didn't say much more than that until he was 4+.

the kid is a freaking genius at 12 and has no problems speaking.

hard not to stress about developmental milestones, but do your best not to. Unless you're seeing other developmental hiccups that indicate something else is going on, he'll get there.
No offense GB, but this is not good advice. Speech Delay is one of the lead indicators for ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder). It does not mean speech delay = ASD but if it does, early intervention is pretty critical. In short, if you're concerned, go see a specialist and get the kid evaluated. If it's nothing, no harm done. If it's something at least you know and you can focus the appropriate resources.
Maybe bring it up with his regular Dr. on a regular visit before leaping to a specialist.
No reason not to but your average practitioner is not in a position to diagnose ASD and should likely tell you that if you're concerned to see a specialist.

Some other simple (but not in and of themselves, definitive) "tests" you can do for yourself - Does he point at things that he wants and gesture in general? As observed, sign language is pretty much the same as verbal communication from an ASD standpoint. Does he avoid making eye contact? Avoiding eye contact is another potential sign.

 
My 2.5 year old son only says a handful of words. Mom, Dad, Yes, No. I know that each kid is different, but man, this is starting to get me stressed out.
my nephew didn't say much more than that until he was 4+.

the kid is a freaking genius at 12 and has no problems speaking.

hard not to stress about developmental milestones, but do your best not to. Unless you're seeing other developmental hiccups that indicate something else is going on, he'll get there.
No offense GB, but this is not good advice. Speech Delay is one of the lead indicators for ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder). It does not mean speech delay = ASD but if it does, early intervention is pretty critical. In short, if you're concerned, go see a specialist and get the kid evaluated. If it's nothing, no harm done. If it's something at least you know and you can focus the appropriate resources.
 
My 2.5 year old son only says a handful of words. Mom, Dad, Yes, No. I know that each kid is different, but man, this is starting to get me stressed out.
Opinions are like you know whats, everybody has got one. I see Drifter has put in his two cents, and I certainly wouldn't say he is wrong. However, this is what we did. I don't remember his age, but my older son was definitely delayed in speech. We were very stressed out, and our Dr at the time (very laid back about everything) said it was no big deal. We had to find an alternative, so we were given the idea of teaching him sign language. He needed a larger vocabulary because he was obviously having more complex thoughts than he could vocalize, so child, mom and dad were all very stressed. The sign language worked miracles. We only taught him ten words or so, but he could say things like food, hungry, thirsty, more, all done, mom, dad, and probably a couple I've forgotten. After just a brief time of using those, his speech developed rapidly (wether or not the sign language triggered that, I don't know).

I'm not sure if being able to communicate via sign language has any bearing on one's likeness for being on the Autism spectrum, but it might help in the short term to ease the frustration of communication.
Yeah, big proponent of the sign language thing. We taught our daughter "more, all done, etc..." and she progressed normally with respect to language development. In fact, I'd like to think she's wayyyy ahead of the curve for a 4.5 year old.

We didn't push the sign language thing as hard with my son. The differences are now obvious. :(

 
not a dad question but just a acknowledgment of the challenges presented with raising kids. for all the stress over the these years, i am reminded of all the good things. my boy is 5, starting kindergarten this Fall, and a pretty happy little guy. he recently decided to switch from bath to showers (which makes me a little sad on some level). in the middle of his shower, he asked if I ever heard of "peeing in the rain." that served as springboard for a discussion and viewing of this scene on our TV. we were both pretty geeked out.

 
My 2.5 year old son only says a handful of words. Mom, Dad, Yes, No. I know that each kid is different, but man, this is starting to get me stressed out.
Opinions are like you know whats, everybody has got one. I see Drifter has put in his two cents, and I certainly wouldn't say he is wrong. However, this is what we did. I don't remember his age, but my older son was definitely delayed in speech. We were very stressed out, and our Dr at the time (very laid back about everything) said it was no big deal. We had to find an alternative, so we were given the idea of teaching him sign language. He needed a larger vocabulary because he was obviously having more complex thoughts than he could vocalize, so child, mom and dad were all very stressed. The sign language worked miracles. We only taught him ten words or so, but he could say things like food, hungry, thirsty, more, all done, mom, dad, and probably a couple I've forgotten. After just a brief time of using those, his speech developed rapidly (wether or not the sign language triggered that, I don't know).

I'm not sure if being able to communicate via sign language has any bearing on one's likeness for being on the Autism spectrum, but it might help in the short term to ease the frustration of communication.
Yeah, big proponent of the sign language thing. We taught our daughter "more, all done, etc..." and she progressed normally with respect to language development. In fact, I'd like to think she's wayyyy ahead of the curve for a 4.5 year old.

We didn't push the sign language thing as hard with my son. The differences are now obvious. :(
There's a million different variables that play into child development. Don't kick yourself because you didn't do something that 99.999999% of parents don't do.

 
What age did you guys start gaming with kids? I fired up the ol 360 & have been playing a few games with my soon to be 4yo. Fruit Ninja kinnect is fun, and he is able to play it pretty well.

He likes Sonic racing & hydro thunder but just holds down the gas. Hydro thunder he does the boost.

I just got a couple games that have a bunch of arcade games & Sega originals. He really likes Rampage, and is actually getting the hang of using the directional joystic.

An original Nintendo would be nice. 2 buttons, start, & select.

 
What age did you guys start gaming with kids? I fired up the ol 360 & have been playing a few games with my soon to be 4yo. Fruit Ninja kinnect is fun, and he is able to play it pretty well.

He likes Sonic racing & hydro thunder but just holds down the gas. Hydro thunder he does the boost.

I just got a couple games that have a bunch of arcade games & Sega originals. He really likes Rampage, and is actually getting the hang of using the directional joystic.

An original Nintendo would be nice. 2 buttons, start, & select.
Earlier today I was playing FIFA16 with my 4 month old.

 
What age did you guys start gaming with kids? I fired up the ol 360 & have been playing a few games with my soon to be 4yo. Fruit Ninja kinnect is fun, and he is able to play it pretty well.

He likes Sonic racing & hydro thunder but just holds down the gas. Hydro thunder he does the boost.

I just got a couple games that have a bunch of arcade games & Sega originals. He really likes Rampage, and is actually getting the hang of using the directional joystic.

An original Nintendo would be nice. 2 buttons, start, & select.
Earlier today I was playing FIFA16 with my 4 month old.
Never too soon for a twitch account.

 
I used to sit my kids in my lap and play computer games in the late 90's/early 00's. I played this robot game like halo with them in the mid-00's. It was 4 screen multiplayer and you shot each other but everyone was a robot. Son was like 9 and daughter was like 5. They loved it.

 
What age did you guys start gaming with kids? I fired up the ol 360 & have been playing a few games with my soon to be 4yo. Fruit Ninja kinnect is fun, and he is able to play it pretty well.

He likes Sonic racing & hydro thunder but just holds down the gas. Hydro thunder he does the boost.

I just got a couple games that have a bunch of arcade games & Sega originals. He really likes Rampage, and is actually getting the hang of using the directional joystic.

An original Nintendo would be nice. 2 buttons, start, & select.
Earlier today I was playing FIFA16 with my 4 month old.
Cliffhanger #######, who won????

 
What age did you guys start gaming with kids? I fired up the ol 360 & have been playing a few games with my soon to be 4yo. Fruit Ninja kinnect is fun, and he is able to play it pretty well.

He likes Sonic racing & hydro thunder but just holds down the gas. Hydro thunder he does the boost.

I just got a couple games that have a bunch of arcade games & Sega originals. He really likes Rampage, and is actually getting the hang of using the directional joystic.

An original Nintendo would be nice. 2 buttons, start, & select.
Earlier today I was playing FIFA16 with my 4 month old.
Cliffhanger #######, who won????
I crushed her 2-1.

 
I used to sit my kids in my lap and play computer games in the late 90's/early 00's. I played this robot game like halo with them in the mid-00's. It was 4 screen multiplayer and you shot each other but everyone was a robot. Son was like 9 and daughter was like 5. They loved it.
I played a little Halo with him, against my wife's wishes, but told him not to tell mom. Within hours he is telling her "I want to play that blaster game that dad told me not to tell mom...". Kid ratted me out.

 
What age did you guys start gaming with kids? I fired up the ol 360 & have been playing a few games with my soon to be 4yo. Fruit Ninja kinnect is fun, and he is able to play it pretty well.

He likes Sonic racing & hydro thunder but just holds down the gas. Hydro thunder he does the boost.

I just got a couple games that have a bunch of arcade games & Sega originals. He really likes Rampage, and is actually getting the hang of using the directional joystic.

An original Nintendo would be nice. 2 buttons, start, & select.
Earlier today I was playing FIFA16 with my 4 month old.
Cliffhanger #######, who won????
I crushed her 2-1.
That isn't very impressive IMO

 
What age did you guys start gaming with kids? I fired up the ol 360 & have been playing a few games with my soon to be 4yo. Fruit Ninja kinnect is fun, and he is able to play it pretty well.

He likes Sonic racing & hydro thunder but just holds down the gas. Hydro thunder he does the boost.

I just got a couple games that have a bunch of arcade games & Sega originals. He really likes Rampage, and is actually getting the hang of using the directional joystic.

An original Nintendo would be nice. 2 buttons, start, & select.
Been playing games around my kids since they were infants. When they turned 3 or so I have them the controller and let them fool around with Mario Sunshine and simple games that they can roam. They're 5 now and we've been playing Smash brothers for about 6 months. Also Lego games. Pretty much since they were 4 we've been playing Lego Batman. They can play it by them selves now and know how to do 90% of the puzzles. I throw on other games here and there just to show them other things exist (Metroid Prime, Metal gear solid, Mass Effect, etc) but they lean towards the cartoon type graphics. I'd say 3+ is safe for the mild games. Gets them used to the controls and they have fun watching.

Also forgot I used to play Donkey Kong Country, Castlevania, Sonic 2, Mega Man 2 and other SNES, NES and Sega games when they were 2-3.

 
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Walking Boot said:
Quez said:
What age did you guys start gaming with kids? I fired up the ol 360 & have been playing a few games with my soon to be 4yo. Fruit Ninja kinnect is fun, and he is able to play it pretty well.

He likes Sonic racing & hydro thunder but just holds down the gas. Hydro thunder he does the boost.

I just got a couple games that have a bunch of arcade games & Sega originals. He really likes Rampage, and is actually getting the hang of using the directional joystic.

An original Nintendo would be nice. 2 buttons, start, & select.
There's a pretty good article online somewhere about a dad who started his kid on pong at like age 4, then gradually moved the kid up through the history of video games over 10 years. Like every 3/4 months moved on to the next generation system. Pong, atari, coleco, NES, etc. up to the PS3 or 4.

Kid loved it. Didn't get bored with the Kings Quest type wordy games and became awesome at puzzle games. Kid's a master of all sorts of modern games now bit can still appreciate vintage ones.

Worth a read. Can't seem to find it on my phone.
This is interesting :takingnotes:

 
Catch down?
My son can catch if be holds his arms out, and a throw a ball perfectly where it lands in his arms. I think we are still a few years away from playing catch.

He does like hockey though. I think being able to hold the hockey stick gives them something to do, so they don't get bored. He can dribble a soccer ball, and kick it, but gets bored quickly.

 

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