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[Abraham]

I live in the Dallas area and through my producing ventures with affiliate networks here in the area have made great contacts with people tied into the Dallas Cowboys. An area reporter has told me that through a team source he has learned Jerry Jones and Al Davis have been engaged in heavy trade talks for the #4 overall selection of the NFL draft, something could be done by the end of the weekend as I was told Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones are flying to Oakland tomorrow. Naturally, I inquired as to any indication of who Jerry Jones is targeting. McFadden? The answer was an astounding, "No." Jerry Jones is looking at Vernon Gholston. Jones knowing he will have to leap frog the NY Jets and NE Patriots to land this physical specimen feels Oakland's #4 overall selection is the prime opportunity to do so. I was told Jerry Jones feels Gholston is the perfect bookend to Demarcus Ware and feels this will give Dallas the best pair of DE/OLB's in the entire NFL. And with already one of the best offenses in the NFL, drafting the Gholston to rotate in with an aging Greg Ellis will bring the defense to a championship level.Just what I'm hearing, stay tuned.

O.K., got an update here.Today is what is commonly referred to around here as "Dallas day". That is, today the Cowboys are bringing in local players for visits, interviews and such. Doesn't hardly seem plausible for Jerry and Stephen to take flight to Oakland today.Next week they will be bringing in players on the national front.

Yeah, I read about "Dallas Day" today just like you have. Let me let you know that it's just local college players coming for a token visit. While they have sifted through local talent and kept a player or two ex. Patrick Crayton/Tyson Thompson, I think Jerry Jones/Stephen Jones have the staff in place to effectively evaluate lower tier local talent while they conduct draft business at the top end of the draft. Don'tcha think? Seriously. And who says they aren't taking a late flight into Oakland tonight? So what's your update again?

Providing an update others may have not read is quite a bit more useful then starting a thread on a baseless rumor, don't you think?

 

[{Syrus}]

I live in the Dallas area and through my producing ventures with affiliate networks here in the area have made great contacts with people tied into the Dallas Cowboys. An area reporter has told me that through a team source he has learned Jerry Jones and Al Davis have been engaged in heavy trade talks for the #4 overall selection of the NFL draft, something could be done by the end of the weekend as I was told Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones are flying to Oakland tomorrow. Naturally, I inquired as to any indication of who Jerry Jones is targeting. McFadden? The answer was an astounding, "No." Jerry Jones is looking at Vernon Gholston. Jones knowing he will have to leap frog the NY Jets and NE Patriots to land this physical specimen feels Oakland's #4 overall selection is the prime opportunity to do so. I was told Jerry Jones feels Gholston is the perfect bookend to Demarcus Ware and feels this will give Dallas the best pair of DE/OLB's in the entire NFL. And with already one of the best offenses in the NFL, drafting the Gholston to rotate in with an aging Greg Ellis will bring the defense to a championship level.Just what I'm hearing, stay tuned.

O.K., got an update here.Today is what is commonly referred to around here as "Dallas day". That is, today the Cowboys are bringing in local players for visits, interviews and such. Doesn't hardly seem plausible for Jerry and Stephen to take flight to Oakland today.Next week they will be bringing in players on the national front.

Yeah, I read about "Dallas Day" today just like you have. Let me let you know that it's just local college players coming for a token visit. While they have sifted through local talent and kept a player or two ex. Patrick Crayton/Tyson Thompson, I think Jerry Jones/Stephen Jones have the staff in place to effectively evaluate lower tier local talent while they conduct draft business at the top end of the draft. Don'tcha think? Seriously. And who says they aren't taking a late flight into Oakland tonight? So what's your update again?

Providing an update others may have not read is quite a bit more useful then starting a thread on a baseless rumor, don't you think?

This board is full of rumors, this one has been clearly marked. Your point?

 

[Abraham]

This board is full of rumors, this one has been clearly marked. Your point?

My point:Factual update others may not have read >>>>>> Baseless rumor.

 

[{Syrus}]

This board is full of rumors, this one has been clearly marked. Your point?

My point:Factual update others may not have read >>>>>> Baseless rumor.

This thread is about a rumor. If it wa sbased on stated fact by Jerry Jones and the Dallas front office, it wouldn't be a rumor anymore.

 

[Abraham]

This board is full of rumors, this one has been clearly marked. Your point?

My point:Factual update others may not have read >>>>>> Baseless rumor.

This thread is about a rumor. If it wa sbased on stated fact by Jerry Jones and the Dallas front office, it wouldn't be a rumor anymore.

Agreed. THat doesn't change my point though.

 

[{Syrus}]

This board is full of rumors, this one has been clearly marked. Your point?

My point:Factual update others may not have read >>>>>> Baseless rumor.

This thread is about a rumor. If it wa sbased on stated fact by Jerry Jones and the Dallas front office, it wouldn't be a rumor anymore.

Agreed. THat doesn't change my point though.

Ok, this argument is really dumb.Let's break this down. Facts>rumors>5-year-olds story-tellingSimple enough.So this a clearly marked thread about a RUMOR. Ok. Do you not think Jerry Jones has a great scouting department in place to evaluate local college talent in his absence? Or do you think Jerry Jones is going to personally interview every local kid who shows up?

 

[Andy Herron]

I live in the Dallas area and through my producing ventures with affiliate networks here in the area have made great contacts with people tied into the Dallas Cowboys. An area reporter has told me that through a team source he has learned Jerry Jones and Al Davis have been engaged in heavy trade talks for the #4 overall selection of the NFL draft, something could be done by the end of the weekend as I was told Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones are flying to Oakland tomorrow. Naturally, I inquired as to any indication of who Jerry Jones is targeting. McFadden? The answer was an astounding, "No." Jerry Jones is looking at Vernon Gholston. Jones knowing he will have to leap frog the NY Jets and NE Patriots to land this physical specimen feels Oakland's #4 overall selection is the prime opportunity to do so. I was told Jerry Jones feels Gholston is the perfect bookend to Demarcus Ware and feels this will give Dallas the best pair of DE/OLB's in the entire NFL. And with already one of the best offenses in the NFL, drafting the Gholston to rotate in with an aging Greg Ellis will bring the defense to a championship level.Just what I'm hearing, stay tuned.

O.K., got an update here.Today is what is commonly referred to around here as "Dallas day". That is, today the Cowboys are bringing in local players for visits, interviews and such. Doesn't hardly seem plausible for Jerry and Stephen to take flight to Oakland today.Next week they will be bringing in players on the national front.

Yeah, I read about "Dallas Day" today just like you have. Let me let you know that it's just local college players coming for a token visit. While they have sifted through local talent and kept a player or two ex. Patrick Crayton/Tyson Thompson, I think Jerry Jones/Stephen Jones have the staff in place to effectively evaluate lower tier local talent while they conduct draft business at the top end of the draft. Don'tcha think? Seriously. And who says they aren't taking a late flight into Oakland tonight? So what's your update again?

Now you're just grasping at straws. And by the way, this update was not from something I read, for your information.Regardless of the staff in place, owner and GM Jerry is not going to leave Valley Ranch on a day of this kind. Get real.But you keep us posted on that flight anyhow.

 

[{Syrus}]

I live in the Dallas area and through my producing ventures with affiliate networks here in the area have made great contacts with people tied into the Dallas Cowboys. An area reporter has told me that through a team source he has learned Jerry Jones and Al Davis have been engaged in heavy trade talks for the #4 overall selection of the NFL draft, something could be done by the end of the weekend as I was told Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones are flying to Oakland tomorrow. Naturally, I inquired as to any indication of who Jerry Jones is targeting. McFadden? The answer was an astounding, "No." Jerry Jones is looking at Vernon Gholston. Jones knowing he will have to leap frog the NY Jets and NE Patriots to land this physical specimen feels Oakland's #4 overall selection is the prime opportunity to do so. I was told Jerry Jones feels Gholston is the perfect bookend to Demarcus Ware and feels this will give Dallas the best pair of DE/OLB's in the entire NFL. And with already one of the best offenses in the NFL, drafting the Gholston to rotate in with an aging Greg Ellis will bring the defense to a championship level.Just what I'm hearing, stay tuned.

O.K., got an update here.Today is what is commonly referred to around here as "Dallas day". That is, today the Cowboys are bringing in local players for visits, interviews and such. Doesn't hardly seem plausible for Jerry and Stephen to take flight to Oakland today.Next week they will be bringing in players on the national front.

Yeah, I read about "Dallas Day" today just like you have. Let me let you know that it's just local college players coming for a token visit. While they have sifted through local talent and kept a player or two ex. Patrick Crayton/Tyson Thompson, I think Jerry Jones/Stephen Jones have the staff in place to effectively evaluate lower tier local talent while they conduct draft business at the top end of the draft. Don'tcha think? Seriously. And who says they aren't taking a late flight into Oakland tonight? So what's your update again?

Now you're just grasping at straws. And by the way, this update was not from something I read, for your information.Regardless of the staff in place, owner and GM Jerry is not going to leave Valley Ranch on a day of this kind. Get real.But you keep us posted on that flight anyhow.

I don't know what your problem is with this rumor. Move on if you don't think it's plausible. It does come from a news source much more highly respected in this area than you (and I include you as a news source loosely), I can guarantee you that. But you keep us posted on some breaking news, if you ever get any. This 'Dallas Day' happens every year and is common knowledge to most who know wnaything about NFL football, it's just like any other team inviting in some local products for a looksey. Next.

 

[Cookiemonster]

I live in the Dallas area and through my producing ventures with affiliate networks here in the area have made great contacts with people tied into the Dallas Cowboys. An area reporter has told me that through a team source he has learned Jerry Jones and Al Davis have been engaged in heavy trade talks for the #4 overall selection of the NFL draft, something could be done by the end of the weekend as I was told Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones are flying to Oakland tomorrow. Naturally, I inquired as to any indication of who Jerry Jones is targeting. McFadden? The answer was an astounding, "No." Jerry Jones is looking at Vernon Gholston. Jones knowing he will have to leap frog the NY Jets and NE Patriots to land this physical specimen feels Oakland's #4 overall selection is the prime opportunity to do so. I was told Jerry Jones feels Gholston is the perfect bookend to Demarcus Ware and feels this will give Dallas the best pair of DE/OLB's in the entire NFL. And with already one of the best offenses in the NFL, drafting the Gholston to rotate in with an aging Greg Ellis will bring the defense to a championship level.Just what I'm hearing, stay tuned.

O.K., got an update here.Today is what is commonly referred to around here as "Dallas day". That is, today the Cowboys are bringing in local players for visits, interviews and such. Doesn't hardly seem plausible for Jerry and Stephen to take flight to Oakland today.Next week they will be bringing in players on the national front.

Yeah, I read about "Dallas Day" today just like you have. Let me let you know that it's just local college players coming for a token visit. While they have sifted through local talent and kept a player or two ex. Patrick Crayton/Tyson Thompson, I think Jerry Jones/Stephen Jones have the staff in place to effectively evaluate lower tier local talent while they conduct draft business at the top end of the draft. Don'tcha think? Seriously. And who says they aren't taking a late flight into Oakland tonight? So what's your update again?

Now you're just grasping at straws. And by the way, this update was not from something I read, for your information.Regardless of the staff in place, owner and GM Jerry is not going to leave Valley Ranch on a day of this kind. Get real.But you keep us posted on that flight anyhow.

I don't know what your problem is with this rumor. Move on if you don't think it's plausible. It does come from a news source much more highly respected in this area than you (and I include you as a news source loosely), I can guarantee you that. But you keep us posted on some breaking news, if you ever get any. This 'Dallas Day' happens every year and is common knowledge to most who know wnaything about NFL football, it's just like any other team inviting in some local products for a looksey. Next.

Take it to PMs.

 

[Andy Herron]

I live in the Dallas area and through my producing ventures with affiliate networks here in the area have made great contacts with people tied into the Dallas Cowboys. An area reporter has told me that through a team source he has learned Jerry Jones and Al Davis have been engaged in heavy trade talks for the #4 overall selection of the NFL draft, something could be done by the end of the weekend as I was told Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones are flying to Oakland tomorrow. Naturally, I inquired as to any indication of who Jerry Jones is targeting. McFadden? The answer was an astounding, "No." Jerry Jones is looking at Vernon Gholston. Jones knowing he will have to leap frog the NY Jets and NE Patriots to land this physical specimen feels Oakland's #4 overall selection is the prime opportunity to do so. I was told Jerry Jones feels Gholston is the perfect bookend to Demarcus Ware and feels this will give Dallas the best pair of DE/OLB's in the entire NFL. And with already one of the best offenses in the NFL, drafting the Gholston to rotate in with an aging Greg Ellis will bring the defense to a championship level.Just what I'm hearing, stay tuned.

O.K., got an update here.Today is what is commonly referred to around here as "Dallas day". That is, today the Cowboys are bringing in local players for visits, interviews and such. Doesn't hardly seem plausible for Jerry and Stephen to take flight to Oakland today.Next week they will be bringing in players on the national front.

Yeah, I read about "Dallas Day" today just like you have. Let me let you know that it's just local college players coming for a token visit. While they have sifted through local talent and kept a player or two ex. Patrick Crayton/Tyson Thompson, I think Jerry Jones/Stephen Jones have the staff in place to effectively evaluate lower tier local talent while they conduct draft business at the top end of the draft. Don'tcha think? Seriously. And who says they aren't taking a late flight into Oakland tonight? So what's your update again?

Now you're just grasping at straws. And by the way, this update was not from something I read, for your information.Regardless of the staff in place, owner and GM Jerry is not going to leave Valley Ranch on a day of this kind. Get real.But you keep us posted on that flight anyhow.

I don't know what your problem is with this rumor. Move on if you don't think it's plausible. It does come from a news source much more highly respected in this area than you (and I include you as a news source loosely), I can guarantee you that. But you keep us posted on some breaking news, if you ever get any. This 'Dallas Day' happens every year and is common knowledge to most who know wnaything about NFL football, it's just like any other team inviting in some local products for a looksey. Next.

Syrusly, if you're going to bring rumors to The Shark Pool, be prepared to have them dispelled.

 

[Abraham]

It does come from a news source much more highly respected in this area than you (and I include you as a news source loosely), I can guarantee you that.

No, it doesn't.

 

[Jason Wood]

Guys --

There is no right or wrong here. Syrus did the correct thing by labeling this thread RUMOR and then stating what he was hearing. If you don't think it's factual, say so and move on. Syrus, by the same token don't resort to being dismissive of what others bring to the forum either.

What does arguing over whether this rumor is valid or not accomplish for anyone on this forum? A rumor, BY DEFINITION, is unfounded. And, as I said earlier, as far as rumors go, this is a plausible one; and certainly worth discussing under the context of a "what if" scenario analysis.

Everyone cool off and either get on with the discussion of "what if the deal happened" or move on from this thread please.

J

 

[NoFBinLA]

Guys --There is no right or wrong here. Syrus did the correct thing by labeling this thread RUMOR and then stating what he was hearing. If you don't think it's factual, say so and move on. Syrus, by the same token don't resort to being dismissive of what others bring to the forum either. What does arguing over whether this rumor is valid or not accomplish for anyone on this forum? A rumor, BY DEFINITION, is unfounded. And, as I said earlier, as far as rumors go, this is a plausible one; and certainly worth discussing under the context of a "what if" scenario analysis.Everyone cool off and either get on with the discussion of "what if the deal happened" or move on from this thread please.J

Maybe if we all had our egos put back on the shelf for a while and admit more than one person could have a valid rumor mongered, we coudl have a discussion on this.As it now, it's become people arguing who has the best inside sources. Settle down.Enough with the cracks about who is a journalist 'barely' and junk or the condescending attacks on credibility - it does nothing to enchance the value of the thread.The Dallas movingup for McFadden rumor - hell the DALLAS MOVING UP part - just won't die. There has to be some basis in it, even if it is smokescreen. It'd be an interesting topic if we were allowed to discuss it.Stop wasting time calling each others ability and agenda into question. Jeez!