Dallas punches New England in the mouth (1 Viewer)

[pizzatyme]

How any New England fan can feel confident they are going to waltz into Texas Stadium and beat Dallas, especially right now, is beyond me. I guess they selectively forget that Dallas beat an undefeated (9-0) Indianapolis (Super Bowl Champion-Patriot Killer) team last year in Texas Stadium. And smehow Dallas is supposed to be afraid of New England? Haha.

That's some funny irony right there.How any Cowboy fan can start a thread about not only feeling confident that the Cowboys are going to beat the Patriots, but to not expect Pats fans to refute his claim is beyond me.Up until now I thought this was shtick, but I'm starting to get the feeling you actually believe your own words. I'm picturing the surprise and amazement on your face next week when you are in awe that your fabulous SuperRomoMan led team lost by 20 points in their own house.I'll give you credit BDK, you're a good fan. You'll make this week entertaining, that's for sure. You'll make next week entertaining too reading your posts, even if you won’t be around to talk about the "game".

Newsflash: 1) NE are not the defending Superbowl champions 2) NE are not even the best team in the NFL 3) NE dont even have the most superbowl rings 4) NE are proven cheatersNE is beatable. Deal with it.

Newsflash: 1) NE will be the defending Super Bowl champions this time next year. 2) NE is far and away the best team in the NFL. 3) NE will have the most super Bowl rings in a few more years. 4) If there was anything else negative you could say about the Patriots, you wouldn't be rehashing this 5 week old non-news story.

 

[Big Daddy Kane]

well, well....look who poked their head out of their hole at the last second victory over the weak sister of our division....

I look fwd to your hiding all through the pats game, too....

I actually had real friends, not ifriends, over for the evening and had to entertain guests while watchng the game and couldn't sit in front of the computer like a hermit like you all night. It was an ugly win, yes indeed, but great teams find ways to win even the ugly ones. This win is MUCH, MUCH more beneficial to the psyche of the team heading into this weekend than a win blowing out the Bills.Oh and, eom, How 'bout them Cowboys!

 

[eom]

uh....they suck?

 

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Can we get this thread title changed to:

"Tony Romo punches himself in the mouth, toe the line"

TIA

 

[cantrell]

Patriots 31

Cowboys 27

Dallas isn't even on the same level as New England.

 

[raceguy]

Patriots 31Cowboys 27Dallas isn't even on the same level as New England.

Why only four points then?

 

[phthalatemagic]

Patriots 31Cowboys 27Dallas isn't even on the same level as New England.

Why only for points then?

Most games are played for points.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Newsflash: 1) NE will be the defending Super Bowl champions this time next year. 2) NE is far and away the best team in the NFL. 3) NE will have the most super Bowl rings in a few more years. 4) If there was anything else negative you could say about the Patriots, you wouldn't be rehashing this 5 week old non-news story.

:11:

 

[Brutis]

Patriots 31Cowboys 27Dallas isn't even on the same level as New England.

Since Dallas isn't on the same level shouldnt the score you predicted to be about Pats-31Cowboys - 3

 

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Can we get this thread title changed to:"Tony Romo punches himself in the mouth, toe the line"TIA

Bump

 

[twitch]

Can we get this thread title changed to:"Tony Romo punches himself in the mouth, toe the line"TIA

Bump

let this thread die already. its yesterday's news. bumb it in a week.

 

[Bossman]

If Romo threw 5 INT's (2 for TD's) and the team gave up a kick return TD vs. the Pats I would guess the final score to be:

Patriots - 77

Cowboys - 0

Let's hope for entertainment sake the Cowboys can play at the top of their game to keep it close.

 

[switz]

well, well....look who poked their head out of their hole at the last second victory over the weak sister of our division....

I look fwd to your hiding all through the pats game, too....

I actually had real friends, not ifriends, over for the evening and had to entertain guests while watchng the game and couldn't sit in front of the computer like a hermit like you all night. It was an ugly win, yes indeed, but great teams find ways to win even the ugly ones. This win is MUCH, MUCH more beneficial to the psyche of the team heading into this weekend than a win blowing out the Bills.Oh and, eom, How 'bout them Cowboys!

Are you really crowing about the Cowboys beating the Buffalo HS Bills? Needing a last second field goal to do it? And a number of lucky bounces?Wow...

 

[Doxology]

well, well....look who poked their head out of their hole at the last second victory over the weak sister of our division....

I look fwd to your hiding all through the pats game, too....

I actually had real friends, not ifriends, over for the evening and had to entertain guests while watchng the game and couldn't sit in front of the computer like a hermit like you all night. It was an ugly win, yes indeed, but great teams find ways to win even the ugly ones. This win is MUCH, MUCH more beneficial to the psyche of the team heading into this weekend than a win blowing out the Bills.Oh and, eom, How 'bout them Cowboys!

Are you really crowing about the Cowboys beating the Buffalo HS Bills? Needing a last second field goal to do it? And a number of lucky bounces?Wow...

Give it up man. Cowboys fans have every right to enjoy this victory considering the way they played last night.

 

[[icon]]

well, well....look who poked their head out of their hole at the last second victory over the weak sister of our division....

I look fwd to your hiding all through the pats game, too....

I actually had real friends, not ifriends, over for the evening and had to entertain guests while watchng the game and couldn't sit in front of the computer like a hermit like you all night. It was an ugly win, yes indeed, but great teams find ways to win even the ugly ones. This win is MUCH, MUCH more beneficial to the psyche of the team heading into this weekend than a win blowing out the Bills.Oh and, eom, How 'bout them Cowboys!

Are you really crowing about the Cowboys beating the Buffalo HS Bills? Needing a last second field goal to do it? And a number of lucky bounces?Wow...

Give it up man. Cowboys fans have every right to enjoy this victory considering the way they played last night.

Nothing wrong with being happy your team won. Beating your chest and using the largest font possible is either fishing or idiotic. Be grateful you guys barely escaped and start prepping for the beating next week.

 

[Ralley Monkeys]

well, well....look who poked their head out of their hole at the last second victory over the weak sister of our division....

I look fwd to your hiding all through the pats game, too....

I actually had real friends, not ifriends, over for the evening and had to entertain guests while watchng the game and couldn't sit in front of the computer like a hermit like you all night. It was an ugly win, yes indeed, but great teams find ways to win even the ugly ones. This win is MUCH, MUCH more beneficial to the psyche of the team heading into this weekend than a win blowing out the Bills.Oh and, eom, How 'bout them Cowboys!

Are you really crowing about the Cowboys beating the Buffalo HS Bills? Needing a last second field goal to do it? And a number of lucky bounces?Wow...

Give it up man. Cowboys fans have every right to enjoy this victory considering the way they played last night.

Why should they enjoy a victory in which their team plays so awful they would have lost to all the other teams in the NFL? Romo with 5 INT's and they "should enjoy a victory"? This was a very, very lucky win on the Cowboys part. If anything they should breath a sigh of relief that they stole that game and realize that they have a lot of work to do. Could you imagine the final score if they were playing New England last night...?NE is on a completely different level than anyone else atm. I'll take NE by 2 touchdowns.

 

[greenline]

LOL @ bragging about escaping Buffalo.

 

[daveandken]

Why should they enjoy a victory in which their team plays so awful they would have lost to all the other teams in the NFL? Romo with 5 INT's and they "should enjoy a victory"? This was a very, very lucky win on the Cowboys part. If anything they should breath a sigh of relief that they stole that game and realize that they have a lot of work to do. Could you imagine the final score if they were playing New England last night...?NE is on a completely different level than anyone else atm. I'll take NE by 2 touchdowns.

Played their worst game of the year, and still won. Yes thats a reason to enjoy a victory.How is it lucky that the Cowboys D gave up only 3 points? The offense played great, but they did not get 'lucky', they played great D. Thats why they won the game.Are you willing to put money on your 2 TD bet? I'll take the other side of that one.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Patriots 31Cowboys 27Dallas isn't even on the same level as New England.

Why only four points then?

Garbage time.

 

[daveandken]

Patriots 31Cowboys 27Dallas isn't even on the same level as New England.

Why only four points then?

Garbage time.

Kidding right?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Dallas better beware:

October 8, 2007, 19:58

Browns OL Steinbach Critical Of Patriots LB Vrabel

Tom Withers, Associated Press -

Cleveland Browns OL Eric Steinbach took a shot at the play of New England Patriots LB Mike Vrabel today. Steinbach felt Vrabel purposely dived at the knees of rookie tackle Joe Thomas' legs with 11 seconds remaining on a play that was stopped when Browns quarterback Derek Anderson spiked the ball. "It was uncalled for," Steinbach said. "To dive for a guy's knees like that?" And almost take out the quarterback? When the game is already over with?"

They should be happy just leaving the game healthy with the *Pats on the opposite side.

 

[simmonjm]

Dallas better beware:

October 8, 2007, 19:58

Browns OL Steinbach Critical Of Patriots LB Vrabel

Tom Withers, Associated Press -

Cleveland Browns OL Eric Steinbach took a shot at the play of New England Patriots LB Mike Vrabel today. Steinbach felt Vrabel purposely dived at the knees of rookie tackle Joe Thomas' legs with 11 seconds remaining on a play that was stopped when Browns quarterback Derek Anderson spiked the ball. "It was uncalled for," Steinbach said. "To dive for a guy's knees like that?" And almost take out the quarterback? When the game is already over with?"

They should be happy just leaving the game healthy with the *Pats on the opposite side.

Just another example of the classless organization known as the New England Patriots, LT had it right last year.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Patriots 31Cowboys 27Dallas isn't even on the same level as New England.

Why only four points then?

Garbage time.

 

[texasheat]

Dallas better beware:

October 8, 2007, 19:58

Browns OL Steinbach Critical Of Patriots LB Vrabel

Tom Withers, Associated Press -

Cleveland Browns OL Eric Steinbach took a shot at the play of New England Patriots LB Mike Vrabel today. Steinbach felt Vrabel purposely dived at the knees of rookie tackle Joe Thomas' legs with 11 seconds remaining on a play that was stopped when Browns quarterback Derek Anderson spiked the ball. "It was uncalled for," Steinbach said. "To dive for a guy's knees like that?" And almost take out the quarterback? When the game is already over with?"

They should be happy just leaving the game healthy with the *Pats on the opposite side.

All of the sorriness of the Pats players and coaches will catch up to them at some point. I hope it's this weekend, but I doubt it.

 

[greenline]

Dallas better beware:

October 8, 2007, 19:58

Browns OL Steinbach Critical Of Patriots LB Vrabel

Tom Withers, Associated Press -

Cleveland Browns OL Eric Steinbach took a shot at the play of New England Patriots LB Mike Vrabel today. Steinbach felt Vrabel purposely dived at the knees of rookie tackle Joe Thomas' legs with 11 seconds remaining on a play that was stopped when Browns quarterback Derek Anderson spiked the ball. "It was uncalled for," Steinbach said. "To dive for a guy's knees like that?" And almost take out the quarterback? When the game is already over with?"

They should be happy just leaving the game healthy with the *Pats on the opposite side.

LOL You are the hater of all haters. Steinbach goes on to say he's never known Vrabel to be dirty or do anything to hurt someone. Joshua Cribbs said he was pretty sure Vrabel never heard a whistle so he dove low to try to get the ball on the ground.

It wasn't intentional to injure someone. Your posts are about as annoying and jealous as they get.

Who do you root for?

 

[simmonjm]

Dallas fans are funny, that is FAR from a championship defense down there, I think the Pats win by at least 10

Agreed.Seems like I'm in the vast minority, but I just don't think Dallas is that good. Overrated right now IMO.

Well it seems that the oddsmaker dont agree with your assessment of the game and have line at Dallas +4.5.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Yes, Vrabels actions and Steinbachs words are all about BST. I didnt write that news.

 

[greenline]

Yes, Vrabel actions and Steinbachs words are all about BST.

Sorry I don't have a key for your abbreviations so your going to need to use the keyboard and type out the words if you want a response. edit: Oh ok, I see. You are referring to yourself in 3rd person.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

who seriously over the age of 5 actually thinks the cowboys can hang with the pats. i'm an unbiased 49er fan here, who watches both. the pats are infamous for copying(or taping) opponents schemes week to week. now imagine what buffalo defense did to confuse/frustrate romo- now take buffalo's players out of the equation and replace them with 2-3x better talented players and you may be able to envision what the Pats defense will be doing. then take out the bills anemic offense and put in possibly THE most talented and balanced offense in the league. the cowboys weren't getting pressure on trent edwards and the bills Oline- they might as well not even rush brady then. can't wait to see a hobbling terrence newman or LB playing SS roy williams trying to cover randy, and stallworth-watson-smurf(welker). the cowboys will be so concerned with there lack of coverage and the bracketting of randy that welker-watson will own the center part of the field allgame and make it automatic for the pats to convert 3rd downs(if they need 3rd down).

 

[greenline]

Dallas better beware:

October 8, 2007, 19:58

Browns OL Steinbach Critical Of Patriots LB Vrabel

Tom Withers, Associated Press -

Cleveland Browns OL Eric Steinbach took a shot at the play of New England Patriots LB Mike Vrabel today. Steinbach felt Vrabel purposely dived at the knees of rookie tackle Joe Thomas' legs with 11 seconds remaining on a play that was stopped when Browns quarterback Derek Anderson spiked the ball. "It was uncalled for," Steinbach said. "To dive for a guy's knees like that?" And almost take out the quarterback? When the game is already over with?"

They should be happy just leaving the game healthy with the *Pats on the opposite side.

from the Boston Herald: October 9th, 2007

Vrabel play wasn’t dirty

Posted by John Tomase at 1:12 pm

So we’ve watched the tape about 20 times of Mike Vrabel’s “classless” hit on Browns rookie Joe Thomas, which drew the ire of guard Eric Steinbach. And while Steinbach is certainly entitled to his opinion, from this vantage point at least, his criticisms appear to be well off base.

Here’s what happened. With 11 seconds left and the Patriots leading comfortably at 34-17, the Browns completed a pass to the Pats 10 and rushed to the line of scrimmage to spike the clock dead. Quarterback Derek Anderson was making the spike motion as he ran the team to the line, and everyone on the field except Vrabel basically took the play off.

At the snap, however, Vrabel attempted to engage Thomas on the edge, driving his arms high into the left tackle like he was hitting a tackling dummy. Thomas, however, didn’t fire out for the collision Vrabel was clearly expecting, and the linebacker lost his balance and started to stumble forward. Simultaneously, Thomas backed up, again not really engaging him, and basically matadored Vrabel right to the ground.

Vrabel fell into Thomas’s knees, then landed on the calf of Anderson, who had already spiked the ball and had his back to the play. Anderson fell, Steinbach wheeled around in anger, and the Browns basically pig-piled on Vrabel.

It’s interesting to note that while Vrabel was falling, Steinbach had his back to the play. It was only after Vrabel hit the ground at Thomas’s knees that Steinbach turned around. So he didn’t even see it happen live. It’s a safe bet that seeing the tape merely reinforced Steinbach’s opinion, but we’ve repeatedly watched that sucker dispassionately this morning, and if Vrabel is guilty of anything, it’s playing hard in a situation that didn’t merit the effort.

And it’s hard to get on a guy for that.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Dallas better beware:

October 8, 2007, 19:58

Browns OL Steinbach Critical Of Patriots LB Vrabel

Tom Withers, Associated Press -

Cleveland Browns OL Eric Steinbach took a shot at the play of New England Patriots LB Mike Vrabel today. Steinbach felt Vrabel purposely dived at the knees of rookie tackle Joe Thomas' legs with 11 seconds remaining on a play that was stopped when Browns quarterback Derek Anderson spiked the ball. "It was uncalled for," Steinbach said. "To dive for a guy's knees like that?" And almost take out the quarterback? When the game is already over with?"

They should be happy just leaving the game healthy with the *Pats on the opposite side.

from the Boston Herald: October 9th, 2007

Vrabel play wasn’t dirty

Posted by John Tomase at 1:12 pm

So we’ve watched the tape about 20 times of Mike Vrabel’s “classless” hit on Browns rookie Joe Thomas, which drew the ire of guard Eric Steinbach. And while Steinbach is certainly entitled to his opinion, from this vantage point at least, his criticisms appear to be well off base.

Here’s what happened. With 11 seconds left and the Patriots leading comfortably at 34-17, the Browns completed a pass to the Pats 10 and rushed to the line of scrimmage to spike the clock dead. Quarterback Derek Anderson was making the spike motion as he ran the team to the line, and everyone on the field except Vrabel basically took the play off.

At the snap, however, Vrabel attempted to engage Thomas on the edge, driving his arms high into the left tackle like he was hitting a tackling dummy. Thomas, however, didn’t fire out for the collision Vrabel was clearly expecting, and the linebacker lost his balance and started to stumble forward. Simultaneously, Thomas backed up, again not really engaging him, and basically matadored Vrabel right to the ground.

Vrabel fell into Thomas’s knees, then landed on the calf of Anderson, who had already spiked the ball and had his back to the play. Anderson fell, Steinbach wheeled around in anger, and the Browns basically pig-piled on Vrabel.

It’s interesting to note that while Vrabel was falling, Steinbach had his back to the play. It was only after Vrabel hit the ground at Thomas’s knees that Steinbach turned around. So he didn’t even see it happen live. It’s a safe bet that seeing the tape merely reinforced Steinbach’s opinion, but we’ve repeatedly watched that sucker dispassionately this morning, and if Vrabel is guilty of anything, it’s playing hard in a situation that didn’t merit the effort.

And it’s hard to get on a guy for that.

Clearly just another blind biased NE homer who refuses to accept the fact that Bill Belichick is the anti-Christ, all Patriots players are Satan's minions, and the only classy organizations in the NFL are the Pittsburg Steelers and New York Jets. Why don't we simply irradiate all of New England and be done with it?

 

[greenline]

Dallas better beware:

October 8, 2007, 19:58

Browns OL Steinbach Critical Of Patriots LB Vrabel

Tom Withers, Associated Press -

Cleveland Browns OL Eric Steinbach took a shot at the play of New England Patriots LB Mike Vrabel today. Steinbach felt Vrabel purposely dived at the knees of rookie tackle Joe Thomas' legs with 11 seconds remaining on a play that was stopped when Browns quarterback Derek Anderson spiked the ball. "It was uncalled for," Steinbach said. "To dive for a guy's knees like that?" And almost take out the quarterback? When the game is already over with?"

They should be happy just leaving the game healthy with the *Pats on the opposite side.

from the Boston Herald: October 9th, 2007

Vrabel play wasn’t dirty

Posted by John Tomase at 1:12 pm

So we’ve watched the tape about 20 times of Mike Vrabel’s “classless” hit on Browns rookie Joe Thomas, which drew the ire of guard Eric Steinbach. And while Steinbach is certainly entitled to his opinion, from this vantage point at least, his criticisms appear to be well off base.

Here’s what happened. With 11 seconds left and the Patriots leading comfortably at 34-17, the Browns completed a pass to the Pats 10 and rushed to the line of scrimmage to spike the clock dead. Quarterback Derek Anderson was making the spike motion as he ran the team to the line, and everyone on the field except Vrabel basically took the play off.

At the snap, however, Vrabel attempted to engage Thomas on the edge, driving his arms high into the left tackle like he was hitting a tackling dummy. Thomas, however, didn’t fire out for the collision Vrabel was clearly expecting, and the linebacker lost his balance and started to stumble forward. Simultaneously, Thomas backed up, again not really engaging him, and basically matadored Vrabel right to the ground.

Vrabel fell into Thomas’s knees, then landed on the calf of Anderson, who had already spiked the ball and had his back to the play. Anderson fell, Steinbach wheeled around in anger, and the Browns basically pig-piled on Vrabel.

It’s interesting to note that while Vrabel was falling, Steinbach had his back to the play. It was only after Vrabel hit the ground at Thomas’s knees that Steinbach turned around. So he didn’t even see it happen live. It’s a safe bet that seeing the tape merely reinforced Steinbach’s opinion, but we’ve repeatedly watched that sucker dispassionately this morning, and if Vrabel is guilty of anything, it’s playing hard in a situation that didn’t merit the effort.

And it’s hard to get on a guy for that.

Clearly just another blind biased NE homer who refuses to accept the fact that Bill Belichick is the anti-Christ, all Patriots players are Satan's minions, and the only classy organizations in the NFL are the Pittsburg Steelers and New York Jets. Why don't we simply irradiate all of New England and be done with it?

Right. Clearly this wasn't the poster BigSteelThrill trying desperately to spread anything negative real or perceived about New England. What? It's just fair and balanced, unbiased message board journalism.

 

[eom]

I just hope this doesn't turn into a trap game w/the pats looking past dallas..

omg trap game!!!!

 

[Ralley Monkeys]

Why should they enjoy a victory in which their team plays so awful they would have lost to all the other teams in the NFL? Romo with 5 INT's and they "should enjoy a victory"? This was a very, very lucky win on the Cowboys part. If anything they should breath a sigh of relief that they stole that game and realize that they have a lot of work to do. Could you imagine the final score if they were playing New England last night...?NE is on a completely different level than anyone else atm. I'll take NE by 2 touchdowns.

Played their worst game of the year, and still won. Yes thats a reason to enjoy a victory.How is it lucky that the Cowboys D gave up only 3 points? The offense played great, but they did not get 'lucky', they played great D. Thats why they won the game.Are you willing to put money on your 2 TD bet? I'll take the other side of that one.

Unless you're talking a pretty small amount I'll have to pass. Trying to save for my wedding but I'll put a sig bet on the line if you're up for it.

 

[daveandken]

the cowboys weren't getting pressure on trent edwards and the bills Oline- they might as well not even rush brady then. can't wait to see a hobbling terrence newman or LB playing SS roy williams trying to cover randy, and stallworth-watson-smurf(welker).

I agree that the Pats will beat the Cowboys.However, this is just funny. Ya, they werent getting pressure at all. Just 3 sacks and an interception. ONE field goal is all the Bills offense could muster. No significant offense at all in crunch time for the Bills. But ya, the Cowboys D sucks. And they better watch out for Stallworth and his 2 receptions and 30. I guess it makes sense that you are a 9ers fan, you apparently havent watched either team this year.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I just hope this doesn't turn into a trap game w/the pats looking past dallas..omg trap game!!!!

I hope that it does......look past Dallas and they'll find themselves on the wrong side of the score.Make no mistake, if either team doesn't show up with their "A" game they will lose.

 

[twitch]

New England should be atleast a 12 1/2 point favorite in that game....ON THE ROAD. Wont' even be close. New England just played their worst game of the year and won by 17 against a better team. Buffalo's O is worse than Alcorn State. ridiculous.

 

[daveandken]

New England should be atleast a 12 1/2 point favorite in that game....ON THE ROAD. Wont' even be close. New England just played their worst game of the year and won by 17 against a better team. Buffalo's O is worse than Alcorn State. ridiculous.

12 points? I doubt it.Cleveland is far from a good team and the Pats let them stay in the game. Line will be much closer than 12.

 

[greenline]

I just hope this doesn't turn into a trap game w/the pats looking past dallas..omg trap game!!!!

I hope that it does......look past Dallas and they'll find themselves on the wrong side of the score.Make no mistake, if either team doesn't show up with their "A" game they will lose.

Zero sarcasm detector for this guy.

 

[greenline]

New England should be atleast a 12 1/2 point favorite in that game....ON THE ROAD. Wont' even be close. New England just played their worst game of the year and won by 17 against a better team. Buffalo's O is worse than Alcorn State. ridiculous.

12 points? I doubt it.Cleveland is far from a good team and the Pats let them stay in the game. Line will be much closer than 12.

When were they in the game? Was it their opening drive where they threw an INT in the end zone and then went on to lose by being doubled up? Oh.

 

[daveandken]

New England should be atleast a 12 1/2 point favorite in that game....ON THE ROAD. Wont' even be close. New England just played their worst game of the year and won by 17 against a better team. Buffalo's O is worse than Alcorn State. ridiculous.

12 points? I doubt it.Cleveland is far from a good team and the Pats let them stay in the game. Line will be much closer than 12.

When were they in the game? Was it their opening drive where they threw an INT in the end zone and then went on to lose by being doubled up? Oh.

27-17 with 6 minutes left?But noone can score a touchdown and a fieldgoal with just 6 minutes left.

 

[greenline]

New England should be atleast a 12 1/2 point favorite in that game....ON THE ROAD. Wont' even be close. New England just played their worst game of the year and won by 17 against a better team. Buffalo's O is worse than Alcorn State. ridiculous.

12 points? I doubt it.Cleveland is far from a good team and the Pats let them stay in the game. Line will be much closer than 12.

When were they in the game? Was it their opening drive where they threw an INT in the end zone and then went on to lose by being doubled up? Oh.

27-17 with 6 minutes left?But noone can score a touchdown and a fieldgoal with just 6 minutes left.

Did you and Ken watch the game? Or you just looking at box scores? Yeah too bad they sealed the game in the 4th. Clearly they should have done so convincingly in the 1st half.

 

[daveandken]

New England should be atleast a 12 1/2 point favorite in that game....ON THE ROAD. Wont' even be close. New England just played their worst game of the year and won by 17 against a better team. Buffalo's O is worse than Alcorn State. ridiculous.

12 points? I doubt it.Cleveland is far from a good team and the Pats let them stay in the game. Line will be much closer than 12.

When were they in the game? Was it their opening drive where they threw an INT in the end zone and then went on to lose by being doubled up? Oh.

27-17 with 6 minutes left?But noone can score a touchdown and a fieldgoal with just 6 minutes left.

Did you and Ken watch the game? Or you just looking at box scores? Yeah too bad they sealed the game in the 4th. Clearly they should have done so convincingly in the 1st half.

Yes I watched the game. The Pats were far from impressive against a weak Browns team.10 points down with 6 minutes left is IN THE GAME. They should have put them away long before that if they are half the team this board is making them out to be.Every team has down weeks. If you are going to complain about the Cowboys barely beating a weak Bills team, then you have to consider that the Pats couldnt rout the Browns either. It goes both ways.I said above, however, that I think the Pats will win. Its not as clear as its being made out to be here though.And enough with the making fun of screen name crap. You can leave that on your middle school message board. Surely you are more mature than that.

 

[culdeus]

New England should be atleast a 12 1/2 point favorite in that game....ON THE ROAD. Wont' even be close. New England just played their worst game of the year and won by 17 against a better team. Buffalo's O is worse than Alcorn State. ridiculous.

Try 4.5 Jimmy.

 

[greenline]

New England should be atleast a 12 1/2 point favorite in that game....ON THE ROAD. Wont' even be close. New England just played their worst game of the year and won by 17 against a better team. Buffalo's O is worse than Alcorn State. ridiculous.

12 points? I doubt it.Cleveland is far from a good team and the Pats let them stay in the game. Line will be much closer than 12.

When were they in the game? Was it their opening drive where they threw an INT in the end zone and then went on to lose by being doubled up? Oh.

27-17 with 6 minutes left?But noone can score a touchdown and a fieldgoal with just 6 minutes left.

Did you and Ken watch the game? Or you just looking at box scores? Yeah too bad they sealed the game in the 4th. Clearly they should have done so convincingly in the 1st half.

Yes I watched the game. The Pats were far from impressive against a weak Browns team.10 points down with 6 minutes left is IN THE GAME. They should have put them away long before that if they are half the team this board is making them out to be.Every team has down weeks. If you are going to complain about the Cowboys barely beating a weak Bills team, then you have to consider that the Pats couldnt rout the Browns either. It goes both ways.I said above, however, that I think the Pats will win. Its not as clear as its being made out to be here though.And enough with the making fun of screen name crap. You can leave that on your middle school message board. Surely you are more mature than that.

How was I making fun of your name? I assume it's two people's account. Surely you're not that sensitive. Cleveland is alot better than Buffalo and a lot better than you give them credit for. Romeo Crennell spent years in NE and they played NE more physical and had a better plan than any of them teams I saw previously. Brady had a bad 3rd qtr but Cleveland never really threatened anything regardless of your "analysis" of 10 pts down a little more than halfway through the 4th. Cleveland was down 27-10 and scored. NE then ran most of the the clock and turned the ball over on DOWNS. Who was the RB? If you watched the game you know they pulled Morris and put Kyle Eckel in. Then just pounded away. Then KWII coughed up the ball and Pats D tacked on another TD.

 

[daveandken]

How was I making fun of your name? I assume it's two people's account. Surely you're not that sensitive.

If it wasnt a shot, then what the heck was the point? And don't assume - its just a screen name. Stick to football.

Cleveland is alot better than Buffalo and a lot better than you give them credit for. Romeo Crennell spent years in NE and they played NE more physical and had a better plan than any of them teams I saw previously.

You are entitled to your opinion. I still think the Browns suck. We'll see how they end up at the end of the year.

Brady had a bad 3rd qtr but Cleveland never really threatened anything regardless of your "analysis" of 10 pts down a little more than halfway through the 4th.

Whats with the analysis quote? I'm not allowed to have an opinion? Evidently a touchdown and a fieldgoal with 6 minutes left is still in the game. Or are you going to suggest that Dallas wasnt in the game last night either?

Cleveland was down 27-10 and scored. NE then ran most of the the clock and turned the ball over on DOWNS. Who was the RB? If you watched the game you know they pulled Morris and put Kyle Eckel in. Then just pounded away. Then KWII coughed up the ball and Pats D tacked on another TD.

Exactly, without that fumble, you could have had a browns TD, and then its a 3 pt game. Pats should have put it away long before if they are such a great team.

 

[twitch]

New England should be atleast a 12 1/2 point favorite in that game....ON THE ROAD. Wont' even be close. New England just played their worst game of the year and won by 17 against a better team. Buffalo's O is worse than Alcorn State. ridiculous.

Try 4.5 Jimmy.

SHOULD. you guys get the meaning of should?? I knew what it was.

 

[twitch]

How was I making fun of your name? I assume it's two people's account. Surely you're not that sensitive.

If it wasnt a shot, then what the heck was the point? And don't assume - its just a screen name. Stick to football.

Cleveland is alot better than Buffalo and a lot better than you give them credit for. Romeo Crennell spent years in NE and they played NE more physical and had a better plan than any of them teams I saw previously.

You are entitled to your opinion. I still think the Browns suck. We'll see how they end up at the end of the year.

Brady had a bad 3rd qtr but Cleveland never really threatened anything regardless of your "analysis" of 10 pts down a little more than halfway through the 4th.

Whats with the analysis quote? I'm not allowed to have an opinion? Evidently a touchdown and a fieldgoal with 6 minutes left is still in the game. Or are you going to suggest that Dallas wasnt in the game last night either?

Cleveland was down 27-10 and scored. NE then ran most of the the clock and turned the ball over on DOWNS. Who was the RB? If you watched the game you know they pulled Morris and put Kyle Eckel in. Then just pounded away. Then KWII coughed up the ball and Pats D tacked on another TD.

Exactly, without that fumble, you could have had a browns TD, and then its a 3 pt game. Pats should have put it away long before if they are such a great team.

New England was winning that game 20-0 at the half. I mean my god, youre up 20-0 playing and coaching against a former friend, coach and colleague who's mere coaching life is literally at risk this year. Romeo wasnt just some schmoe to these guys. The last thing they were trying to do was pile on and beat that team 40-0. read between the lines every once in a while.

 

[daveandken]

New England was winning that game 20-0 at the half. I mean my god, youre up 20-0 playing and coaching against a former friend, coach and colleague who's mere coaching life is literally at risk this year. Romeo wasnt just some schmoe to these guys. The last thing they were trying to do was pile on and beat that team 40-0. read between the lines every once in a while.

If they intentionally let up, then they are crazy. Anything can happen in this league.

 

[greenline]

How was I making fun of your name? I assume it's two people's account. Surely you're not that sensitive.

If it wasnt a shot, then what the heck was the point? And don't assume - its just a screen name. Stick to football.

Cleveland is alot better than Buffalo and a lot better than you give them credit for. Romeo Crennell spent years in NE and they played NE more physical and had a better plan than any of them teams I saw previously.

You are entitled to your opinion. I still think the Browns suck. We'll see how they end up at the end of the year.

Brady had a bad 3rd qtr but Cleveland never really threatened anything regardless of your "analysis" of 10 pts down a little more than halfway through the 4th.

Whats with the analysis quote? I'm not allowed to have an opinion? Evidently a touchdown and a fieldgoal with 6 minutes left is still in the game. Or are you going to suggest that Dallas wasnt in the game last night either?

Cleveland was down 27-10 and scored. NE then ran most of the the clock and turned the ball over on DOWNS. Who was the RB? If you watched the game you know they pulled Morris and put Kyle Eckel in. Then just pounded away. Then KWII coughed up the ball and Pats D tacked on another TD.

Exactly, without that fumble, you could have had a browns TD, and then its a 3 pt game. Pats should have put it away long before if they are such a great team.

LOL you don't think the 6 minute drive with a backup fullback and turning over on downs inside the CLE 10 was a sign they weren't trying to score more points? You're fishing.