*** Dan Lambskins Top 25 Most Overrated Movies *** A.K.A MoP Hates Hollywood (3 Viewers)

[Major]

17 - Everything Everywhere All At Once

Counting the trend of terrible movies to win an Oscar . No idea how this got picked over Banshees.

This movie is phenomenal.

Agreed. I doubt I'm going to take many film recommendations from this Dan fellow.

Nah man I’ve got good taste I just don’t always follow the crowd

I think Boggs and The Sisters need to have a word with you

Wade “the chicken man” Boggs?

The antagonists/prison rapists in Shawshank

 

[General Malaise]

I also took a semester of Film Studies in college so I’m more qualified than most of you guys

Ask for a refund, Subway Dan.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I also took a semester of Film Studies in college so I’m more qualified than most of you guys

Ask for a refund, Subway Dan.

I mean I’m an engineering major but I had to take that crap along with philosophy, psychology and economic geography so I’m an expert in those fields as well

 

[nirad3]

I also took a semester of Film Studies in college so I’m more qualified than most of you guys

Ask for a refund, Subway Dan.

I mean I’m an engineering major but I had to take that crap along with philosophy, psychology and economic geography so I’m an expert in those fields as well

You don't say? Bring it.

 

[General Malaise]

I also took a semester of Film Studies in college so I’m more qualified than most of you guys

Ask for a refund, Subway Dan.

I mean I’m an engineering major but I had to take that crap along with philosophy, psychology and economic geography so I’m an expert in those fields as well

Post more in the stock thread please, John Maynard Lambskin.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I also took a semester of Film Studies in college so I’m more qualified than most of you guys

Ask for a refund, Subway Dan.

I mean I’m an engineering major but I had to take that crap along with philosophy, psychology and economic geography so I’m an expert in those fields as well

You don't say? Bring it.

To be fair I think I squeaked by a D

My buddy had the prior level class. He said it was easy as heck. Just a bunch of multiple-choice tests
First day i find out there’s a 15 page term required. I wrote that on how south and Central America countries would benefit from a legalized drug trade.

It also didn’t help that we skipped class every Monday so we could go watch Monday night football

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Oh also took economics

Supply and Demand

That’s the gist of it

 

[nirad3]

Oh also took economics

Supply and Demand

That’s the gist of it

Something or other about an invisible hand by some guy named Adam Smith?

 

[Ilov80s]

I also took a semester of Film Studies in college so I’m more qualified than most of you guys

Ask for a refund, Subway Dan.

That was a good burn. Reminds me of one I just learned of the other day.

Charlton Heston published his autobiography called, "An Actor's Life".

Now you probably know depsite being famous, Heston wasn't exactly Daniel Day Lewis. Gore Vidal's "review" of Heston's novel, "An Actor's Life" was simply, something to the effect of: he never does reveal the name of the eoponymous actor.

Well played Vidal and well played GM.

 

[gianmarco]

I didn't read this whole thread (and unlikely ever will), but I think my #1 has to be The Big Lebowski.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I didn't read this whole thread (and unlikely ever will), but I think my #1 has to be The Big Lebowski.

Report to the timthread!

 

[Ilov80s]

I didn't read this whole thread (and unlikely ever will), but I think my #1 has to be The Big Lebowski.

What if Tim told you over a 3,650 day period there weren't 30 better movies made?

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I didn't read this whole thread (and unlikely ever will), but I think my #1 has to be The Big Lebowski.

Obviously you’re not a golfer

 

[KarmaPolice]

Star Wars VII, VIII, and XIX
Flaming piles of garbage, let's start there and work our way out

I never made it past the one after phantom menace. To me, the only Star Wars came out between 1977 and 1983. I have no interest in any others. All the other movies actually reduced my interest in the original 3. So yeah, the Star Wars universe is massively overrated/overhyped.

I think you would like Rogue One. IMO that is by far the best one since the 80s, and it ties in to those.

 

[Frostillicus]

Can't replicate the picture, sound,

only reason I even go to theaters anymore. The spectacle of it all.

I’ll be going to see Jaws this summer when it’s released to theaters for its 50th anniversary. Now that will be an experience.

Got to see it on the big screen about 20 years ago (damn I'm old). Was super awesome.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I didn't read this whole thread (and unlikely ever will), but I think my #1 has to be The Big Lebowski.

You shut your potty mouth!

 

[Pip's Invitation]

I didn't read this whole thread (and unlikely ever will), but I think my #1 has to be The Big Lebowski.

That's, like, your opinion, man.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

I also took a semester of Film Studies in college so I’m more qualified than most of you guys

I was a Film & Communication/English double major.

 

[Ilov80s]

I also took a semester of Film Studies in college so I’m more qualified than most of you guys

I was a Film & Communication/English double major.

I taught a film studies course in high school. Who is the master now?

Really it was just 1 semester because the normal teacher was on leave and nobody else wanted it. And this was a public school elective so we didn’t dive too deep on anything, was more about trying to get them to be interested in any movies that weren’t marvel or Conjuring or Disney.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I also took a semester of Film Studies in college so I’m more qualified than most of you guys

I was a Film & Communication/English double major.

I taught a film studies course in high school. Who is the master now?

Really it was just 1 semester because the normal teacher was on leave and nobody else wanted it. And this was a public school elective so we didn’t dive too deep on anything, was more about trying to get them to be interested in any movies that weren’t marvel or Conjuring or Disney.

Did it work?

 

[Ilov80s]

I also took a semester of Film Studies in college so I’m more qualified than most of you guys

I was a Film & Communication/English double major.

I taught a film studies course in high school. Who is the master now?

Really it was just 1 semester because the normal teacher was on leave and nobody else wanted it. And this was a public school elective so we didn’t dive too deep on anything, was more about trying to get them to be interested in any movies that weren’t marvel or Conjuring or Disney.

Did it work?

It was all over the place. Some kids were into theater and stuff so they already had wider interests. Some joined because they figured watching movies would be easy and there would be lots of nap time. Like any class, the kids got out of it what they were willing to put in. I kept it pretty light on technical details and tried to hit something from every genre.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I also took a semester of Film Studies in college so I’m more qualified than most of you guys

I was a Film & Communication/English double major.

I taught a film studies course in high school. Who is the master now?

Really it was just 1 semester because the normal teacher was on leave and nobody else wanted it. And this was a public school elective so we didn’t dive too deep on anything, was more about trying to get them to be interested in any movies that weren’t marvel or Conjuring or Disney.

Did it work?

It was all over the place. Some kids were into theater and stuff so they already had wider interests. Some joined because they figured watching movies would be easy and there would be lots of nap time. Like any class, the kids got out of it what they were willing to put in. I kept it pretty light on technical details and tried to hit something from every genre.

Jokes on them if they had to sit through Hiroshima, Mon Amour like I did

I think Double Indemnity was the only film I liked

Iirc it was
Birth of a nation
Caligiri
Potemkin
Double indemnity
Citizen kane
Hiroshima
Tokyo story
Maybe Rear Window

 

[Ilov80s]

Jokes on them if they had to sit through Hiroshima, Mon Amour like I did

I think Double Indemnity was the only film I liked

Iirc it was
Birth of a nation
Caligiri
Potemkin
Double indemnity
Citizen kane
Hiroshima
Tokyo story
Maybe Rear Window

Definitely didn’t watch any of those for the HS class but that’s a banger list of movies. Hiroshima Mon Amour is a beautiful movie.

I think we did

Horror: Halloween
Sci-fi: The Matrix
Action- Adventure: The Princess Bride
Comedy: Dumb and Dumber, Ferris Bueller
Drama: The Truman Show, Dead Poets Society, Good Will Hunting
Romance/Musical: Singing in the Rain
War: Saving Private Ryan

I think I would some things different now but this was awhile ago

 

[Leroy Hoard]

My high school film class was great. Watch a movie over 4 days and take a test on Friday. Some of the movies:

Citizen Kane
Some Like It Hot
Meet Me In St. Louis
The Pink Panther
Rear Window

 

[Ilov80s]

My high school film class was great. Watch a movie over 4 days and take a test on Friday. Some of the movies:

Citizen Kane
Some Like It Hot
Meet Me In St. Louis
The Pink Panther
Rear Window

Yeah I took one in HS that was awesome. The teacher was crazy and I couldn’t believe the movies she would show us in our Catholic HS. Deliverance, Election, Halloween, Aliens, Citizen Kane and Singin in the Rain are the ones I remember. Super informative class I learned a ton.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

I also took a semester of Film Studies in college so I’m more qualified than most of you guys

I was a Film & Communication/English double major.

I taught a film studies course in high school. Who is the master now?

Really it was just 1 semester because the normal teacher was on leave and nobody else wanted it. And this was a public school elective so we didn’t dive too deep on anything, was more about trying to get them to be interested in any movies that weren’t marvel or Conjuring or Disney.

Did it work?

It was all over the place. Some kids were into theater and stuff so they already had wider interests. Some joined because they figured watching movies would be easy and there would be lots of nap time. Like any class, the kids got out of it what they were willing to put in. I kept it pretty light on technical details and tried to hit something from every genre.

Jokes on them if they had to sit through Hiroshima, Mon Amour like I did

I think Double Indemnity was the only film I liked

Iirc it was
Birth of a nation
Caligiri
Potemkin
Double indemnity
Citizen kane
Hiroshima
Tokyo story
Maybe Rear Window

Battleship Potemkin
Un Chien Andalou
Nosferatu
Metropolis
M
The Bicycle Thief
Rashomon
Blue Velvet
North By Northwest
Last Tango In Paris
Casablanca

From memory. There were many more.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

Citizen Kane and Some Like It Hot were also on the curriculum
As was The Apartment

 

[jhib]

After reading your list so far, I'd love to know what movie you do find funny. Because, well I just wonder if you laugh.

Spaceballs
Major league
Naked gun
Being There
Happiness

Those are all some of my favorite comedies off the top of my head

Spaceballs 2 announced

 

[Ilov80s]

After all the theaters are dead, nobody goes to the movies anymore rant here we have had F1 nearing $300 million in it's first 2 weeks. The new Jurassic exceeded $300 million this long holiday weekend. 19 movies this year have cleared $100 million internationally, 10 have done so domestically. Superman and Fantastic 4 are on there way as well.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Reboots and remakes: why is Hollywood stuck on repeat?

As Jurassic World: Rebirth and 28 Years Later become the latest franchise titles to hit the big screen, movie fans are realising a depressing truth

www.theguardian.com

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

eh,,,,

 

[KarmaPolice]

Reboots and remakes: why is Hollywood stuck on repeat?

As Jurassic World: Rebirth and 28 Years Later become the latest franchise titles to hit the big screen, movie fans are realising a depressing truth

www.theguardian.com

It is the simplest answer to the question in the title - because that is the crap we choose to see in the theater.

How do shows like Two and a Half Men, books like DaVinci Code, and bands like Nickelback get popular?? The general public likes dumb crap you don't have to think about. People still like to see movies in the theater, but because of ticket prices and home theater setups - what gives you the highest % of ROI is something that you have familiarity with and/or is a spectacle blockbuster type of movie. That is one part.

IMO there is another big part, and I am guilty of it too. At home I am much more likely to watch and love an A24 type movie. If I am going to the theater, especially with a group or family, I am seeing Karate Kid Legends or Marvel type fare. Much more likely I feel I got my money's worth and everybody in the group is having a good time. This makes it really hard for most of the studios to focus too much on those movies that I am guessing most of us movie geeks would agree are the better movies.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Reboots and remakes: why is Hollywood stuck on repeat?

As Jurassic World: Rebirth and 28 Years Later become the latest franchise titles to hit the big screen, movie fans are realising a depressing truth

www.theguardian.com

It is the simplest answer to the question in the title - because that is the crap we choose to see in the theater.

How do shows like Two and a Half Men, books like DaVinci Code, and bands like Nickelback get popular?? The general public likes dumb crap you don't have to think about. People still like to see movies in the theater, but because of ticket prices and home theater setups - what gives you the highest % of ROI is something that you have familiarity with and/or is a spectacle blockbuster type of movie. That is one part.

IMO there is another big part, and I am guilty of it too. At home I am much more likely to watch and love an A24 type movie. If I am going to the theater, especially with a group or family, I am seeing Karate Kid Legends or Marvel type fare. Much more likely I feel I got my money's worth and everybody in the group is having a good time. This makes it really hard for most of the studios to focus too much on those movies that I am guessing most of us movie geeks would agree are the better movies.

I have a movie thread, have not stepped into a theater since pre-pandemic and I was a regular movie/film watcher.
I wasn't a big Marvel fan or some of the other mainstream stuff but I usually would seek out the critically acclaimed films but not now

 

[KarmaPolice]

Reboots and remakes: why is Hollywood stuck on repeat?

As Jurassic World: Rebirth and 28 Years Later become the latest franchise titles to hit the big screen, movie fans are realising a depressing truth

www.theguardian.com

It is the simplest answer to the question in the title - because that is the crap we choose to see in the theater.

How do shows like Two and a Half Men, books like DaVinci Code, and bands like Nickelback get popular?? The general public likes dumb crap you don't have to think about. People still like to see movies in the theater, but because of ticket prices and home theater setups - what gives you the highest % of ROI is something that you have familiarity with and/or is a spectacle blockbuster type of movie. That is one part.

IMO there is another big part, and I am guilty of it too. At home I am much more likely to watch and love an A24 type movie. If I am going to the theater, especially with a group or family, I am seeing Karate Kid Legends or Marvel type fare. Much more likely I feel I got my money's worth and everybody in the group is having a good time. This makes it really hard for most of the studios to focus too much on those movies that I am guessing most of us movie geeks would agree are the better movies.

I have a movie thread, have not stepped into a theater since pre-pandemic and I was a regular movie/film watcher.
I wasn't a big Marvel fan or some of the other mainstream stuff but I usually would seek out the critically acclaimed films but not now

What is the meaning of the bolded - that you can't find the critically acclaimed movies in the theaters to see or that the critically acclaimed films now are also bad and not worth seeking out?

 

[rockaction]

but I usually would seek out the critically acclaimed films

tedium, present thyself! (Not a knock on MoP. I agree with him. Total pabulum.)

 

[rockaction]

or that the critically acclaimed films now are also bad and not worth seeking out?

I can play this one from the rough. I would mean this. Total pabulum.

 

[rockaction]

Interjection! Interjection! Interjection!

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Reboots and remakes: why is Hollywood stuck on repeat?

As Jurassic World: Rebirth and 28 Years Later become the latest franchise titles to hit the big screen, movie fans are realising a depressing truth

www.theguardian.com

It is the simplest answer to the question in the title - because that is the crap we choose to see in the theater.

How do shows like Two and a Half Men, books like DaVinci Code, and bands like Nickelback get popular?? The general public likes dumb crap you don't have to think about. People still like to see movies in the theater, but because of ticket prices and home theater setups - what gives you the highest % of ROI is something that you have familiarity with and/or is a spectacle blockbuster type of movie. That is one part.

IMO there is another big part, and I am guilty of it too. At home I am much more likely to watch and love an A24 type movie. If I am going to the theater, especially with a group or family, I am seeing Karate Kid Legends or Marvel type fare. Much more likely I feel I got my money's worth and everybody in the group is having a good time. This makes it really hard for most of the studios to focus too much on those movies that I am guessing most of us movie geeks would agree are the better movies.

I have a movie thread, have not stepped into a theater since pre-pandemic and I was a regular movie/film watcher.
I wasn't a big Marvel fan or some of the other mainstream stuff but I usually would seek out the critically acclaimed films but not now

What is the meaning of the bolded - that you can't find the critically acclaimed movies in the theaters to see or that the critically acclaimed films now are also bad and not worth seeking out?

I used to trust when a movie would get a 75%+, 905+ on RT that it was a quality film, can't do that any more and then you add in the link I posted which kinda backs up a lot of my thoughts on why I don't bother going. The big movie this past weekend was Jurassic Park 7...

I have a theory on all of it. Hollywood doesn't make movies for American audiences any more, the worldwide box office take for many of these films we pander are in the hundreds of millions. A movie made for $200M+ might only make $150M in the US but worldwide will take in over $500M+, the studios bank on making money from foreign audiences

There's a gem here and there, I've seen a few good films at home over the last few years but not much and even when HBO/MAX whatever gets a movie within weeks of its theatrical run I just find myself turning it off or flipping to something else.

Watched "To Live and Die in LA " last night for the first time in a very long time, incredible car chase seen from the same director that did French Connection which also has a wicked car chase in it, Friedken knows how to film these

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

because that is the crap we choose to see in the theater.

How do shows like Two and a Half Men, books like DaVinci Code, and bands like Nickelback get popular?? The general public likes dumb crap you don't have to think about.

2.5 men was funny. Low brow but funny. DaVinci Code was a good book and has sold 80 million copies. I (and I'm sure others do too) like some Nickelback songs. I don't really understand the hate. But movies about strippers that marry an immature white man and ones about a bunch of manipulative poor people are the height of culture?

WRT the bolded-we don't exactly have control over what is put into theaters. Certainly, you could make the argument that we (us plebs) choose to watch generic comedy/action movie over some thinky/artsy movie and thus the cycle continues but we don't really have a ton of control over what gets put in.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Hollywood doesn't make movies for American audiences any more, the worldwide box office take for many of these films we pander are in the hundreds of millions. A movie made for $200M+ might only make $150M in the US but worldwide will take in over $500M+, the studios bank on making money from foreign audiences

There's a lot of truth in this.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

because that is the crap we choose to see in the theater.

How do shows like Two and a Half Men, books like DaVinci Code, and bands like Nickelback get popular?? The general public likes dumb crap you don't have to think about.

2.5 men was funny. Low brow but funny. DaVinci Code was a good book and has sold 80 million copies. I (and I'm sure others do too) like some Nickelback songs. I don't really understand the hate. But movies about strippers that marry an immature white man and ones about a bunch of manipulative poor people are the height of culture?

WRT the bolded-we don't exactly have control over what is put into theaters. Certainly, you could make the argument that we (us plebs) choose to watch generic comedy/action movie over some thinky/artsy movie and thus the cycle continues but we don't really have a ton of control over what gets put in.

I also was a huge fan of the first 7-8 seasons until Sheen left the show/fired
The show changed a lot when Kutcher replaced him and was never the same, still they made 4 more seasons of it, oof!

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Hollywood doesn't make movies for American audiences any more, the worldwide box office take for many of these films we pander are in the hundreds of millions. A movie made for $200M+ might only make $150M in the US but worldwide will take in over $500M+, the studios bank on making money from foreign audiences

There's a lot of truth in this.

F1 is doing OK in America, $100M isn't what it used to be and rumors have the cost of that film somewhere in the $250M to possibly $300M range, this would be a bomb if it was relying on just the US audiences but worldwide it has taken in close to $300M and still rising, likely will go over $400-$500M Worldwide and then Apple Plus is ready to roll with it so you won't even get a chance to likely rent the movie at home, you have to subscribe to Apple which is another pet peeve of mine with films.

Some of them go directly to an Apple, Netflix, Max, whatever and if you don't subscribe to them then you won't get to see it outside of maybe purchasing it blindly for $25
It's infuriating so i choose to mostly not participate. There are some movies coming out this year that I am interested in, usually certain directors or actors draw me into a film

 

[KarmaPolice]

because that is the crap we choose to see in the theater.

How do shows like Two and a Half Men, books like DaVinci Code, and bands like Nickelback get popular?? The general public likes dumb crap you don't have to think about.

2.5 men was funny. Low brow but funny. DaVinci Code was a good book and has sold 80 million copies. I (and I'm sure others do too) like some Nickelback songs. I don't really understand the hate. But movies about strippers that marry an immature white man and ones about a bunch of manipulative poor people are the height of culture?

WRT the bolded-we don't exactly have control over what is put into theaters. Certainly, you could make the argument that we (us plebs) choose to watch generic comedy/action movie over some thinky/artsy movie and thus the cycle continues but we don't really have a ton of control over what gets put in.

I think you understand my general point for the first part. I don't think it's that controversial to say that if you start thinking about direction, editing, screenwriting, whatever that many of the huge blockbusters start to get points off - thats what critics and awards care about. The general public doesn't. The popular blockbusters are made to attract the public to the theater to spend money, and they do that largely by blowing crap up and pushing nostalgia buttons.

I get what you are saying with the rest, but IMO the studios don't care if it's When Harry Met Sally or Batman that makes 100s of millions of dollars, but at some point we all stopped going to the variety of movies we could point to that generated big $$ in the 80s and 90s to basically Star Wars, Marvel, sequels, and reboots. IMO that part has more to do with us for the reasons I pointed to above with MOP about people watching those types at home now.

He did bring up a great point about the influence of foreign markets as well.

 

[Ilov80s]

Hollywood doesn't make movies for American audiences any more, the worldwide box office take for many of these films we pander are in the hundreds of millions. A movie made for $200M+ might only make $150M in the US but worldwide will take in over $500M+, the studios bank on making money from foreign audiences

There's a lot of truth in this.

F1 is doing OK in America, $100M isn't what it used to be and rumors have the cost of that film somewhere in the $250M to possibly $300M range, this would be a bomb if it was relying on just the US audiences but worldwide it has taken in close to $300M and still rising, likely will go over $400-$500M Worldwide and then Apple Plus is ready to roll with it so you won't even get a chance to likely rent the movie at home, you have to subscribe to Apple which is another pet peeve of mine with films.

Some of them go directly to an Apple, Netflix, Max, whatever and if you don't subscribe to them then you won't get to see it outside of maybe purchasing it blindly for $25
It's infuriating so i choose to mostly not participate. There are some movies coming out this year that I am interested in, usually certain directors or actors draw me into a film

It's a movie about F1, of course it is depending on overseas viewers.

 

[Ilov80s]

Hollywood doesn't make movies for American audiences any more, the worldwide box office take for many of these films we pander are in the hundreds of millions. A movie made for $200M+ might only make $150M in the US but worldwide will take in over $500M+, the studios bank on making money from foreign audiences

There's a lot of truth in this.

Can you give me 3 examples of movies you think support this stance and why because I don't get this premise.

 

[Ilov80s]

or that the critically acclaimed films now are also bad and not worth seeking out?

I can play this one from the rough. I would mean this. Total pabulum.

Rock, you admittedly do not watch movies or tv shows.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Hollywood doesn't make movies for American audiences any more, the worldwide box office take for many of these films we pander are in the hundreds of millions. A movie made for $200M+ might only make $150M in the US but worldwide will take in over $500M+, the studios bank on making money from foreign audiences

There's a lot of truth in this.

Can you give me 3 examples of movies you think support this stance and why because I don't get this premise.

The Great Wall, Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, Mulan. I am pretty sure that I've read something like that before and it just kind of makes sense? You know you're going to make a movie and to maximise your profits you're going to make it appeal to as many people as you can.

anyways this is what google gave me

Many U.S. movies are specifically made for foreign audiences, often incorporating elements that appeal to international markets. Here are some notable examples:

Blockbuster Franchises

• Transformers Series: Known for its global appeal, with significant box office earnings from China.
• Fast & Furious Franchise: Features diverse casts and international locations, catering to a global audience.

Culturally Adapted Films

• Pacific Rim: Designed with a focus on Asian markets, particularly Japan, featuring giant robots and monsters.
• The Great Wall: Co-produced with Chinese companies, it stars Chinese actors and incorporates Chinese mythology.

Animated Films

• Kung Fu Panda Series: Appeals to both Western and Eastern audiences with its themes of martial arts and self-discovery.
• Big Hero 6: Inspired by Japanese culture, it blends American animation with elements familiar to Asian viewers.

Co-Productions

• The Martian: While primarily an American film, it includes international actors and was marketed heavily in foreign markets.
• The Great Wall: A collaboration between American and Chinese filmmakers, aimed at bridging cultural gaps.

Market-Specific Releases

• Ghost in the Shell: Adapted from a Japanese manga, it targets both Western and Asian audiences, though it faced criticism for casting choices.
• Mulan (2020): A live-action adaptation that emphasizes themes relevant to both Western and Asian viewers.

These films often reflect a blend of cultural elements and storytelling techniques to resonate with diverse audiences, maximizing their global box office potential.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Hollywood doesn't make movies for American audiences any more, the worldwide box office take for many of these films we pander are in the hundreds of millions. A movie made for $200M+ might only make $150M in the US but worldwide will take in over $500M+, the studios bank on making money from foreign audiences

There's a lot of truth in this.

F1 is doing OK in America, $100M isn't what it used to be and rumors have the cost of that film somewhere in the $250M to possibly $300M range, this would be a bomb if it was relying on just the US audiences but worldwide it has taken in close to $300M and still rising, likely will go over $400-$500M Worldwide and then Apple Plus is ready to roll with it so you won't even get a chance to likely rent the movie at home, you have to subscribe to Apple which is another pet peeve of mine with films.

Some of them go directly to an Apple, Netflix, Max, whatever and if you don't subscribe to them then you won't get to see it outside of maybe purchasing it blindly for $25
It's infuriating so i choose to mostly not participate. There are some movies coming out this year that I am interested in, usually certain directors or actors draw me into a film

It's a movie about F1, of course it is depending on overseas viewers.

The studios are banking on the overseas money for most of the bigger budget films and they tell the directors what they want

-Side story, the studio wanted to cut the scene where Madsen cuts off the ear of the police officer in Reservoir Dogs, said it would make the film very unappealing to women
Tarantino refused to cut the scene and even threatened to try and get distribution from another studio if necessary and for a first time director that was pretty ballsy

2nd side story Sylvester Stallone refused to sell the rights to Rocky to any studio that wouldn't cast him as Rocky, studios offered him 6 figures for the movie rights and he refused
Stallone wrote Rocky in 3 days

 

[Ilov80s]

Hollywood doesn't make movies for American audiences any more, the worldwide box office take for many of these films we pander are in the hundreds of millions. A movie made for $200M+ might only make $150M in the US but worldwide will take in over $500M+, the studios bank on making money from foreign audiences

There's a lot of truth in this.

Can you give me 3 examples of movies you think support this stance and why because I don't get this premise.

The Great Wall, Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, Mulan. I am pretty sure that I've read something like that before and it just kind of makes sense? You know you're going to make a movie and to maximise your profits you're going to make it appeal to as many people as you can.

anyways this is what google gave me

Many U.S. movies are specifically made for foreign audiences, often incorporating elements that appeal to international markets. Here are some notable examples:

Blockbuster Franchises

• Transformers Series: Known for its global appeal, with significant box office earnings from China.
• Fast & Furious Franchise: Features diverse casts and international locations, catering to a global audience.

Culturally Adapted Films

• Pacific Rim: Designed with a focus on Asian markets, particularly Japan, featuring giant robots and monsters.
• The Great Wall: Co-produced with Chinese companies, it stars Chinese actors and incorporates Chinese mythology.

Animated Films

• Kung Fu Panda Series: Appeals to both Western and Eastern audiences with its themes of martial arts and self-discovery.
• Big Hero 6: Inspired by Japanese culture, it blends American animation with elements familiar to Asian viewers.

Co-Productions

• The Martian: While primarily an American film, it includes international actors and was marketed heavily in foreign markets.
• The Great Wall: A collaboration between American and Chinese filmmakers, aimed at bridging cultural gaps.

Market-Specific Releases

• Ghost in the Shell: Adapted from a Japanese manga, it targets both Western and Asian audiences, though it faced criticism for casting choices.
• Mulan (2020): A live-action adaptation that emphasizes themes relevant to both Western and Asian viewers.

These films often reflect a blend of cultural elements and storytelling techniques to resonate with diverse audiences, maximizing their global box office potential.

You were supposed to be supppoting the idea that Hollywood doesn't make movies for American audiences any more. I don't see that here. I see some AI stuff about movies trying to attract wide audiences.

 

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Hollywood doesn't make movies for American audiences any more, the worldwide box office take for many of these films we pander are in the hundreds of millions. A movie made for $200M+ might only make $150M in the US but worldwide will take in over $500M+, the studios bank on making money from foreign audiences

There's a lot of truth in this.

F1 is doing OK in America, $100M isn't what it used to be and rumors have the cost of that film somewhere in the $250M to possibly $300M range, this would be a bomb if it was relying on just the US audiences but worldwide it has taken in close to $300M and still rising, likely will go over $400-$500M Worldwide and then Apple Plus is ready to roll with it so you won't even get a chance to likely rent the movie at home, you have to subscribe to Apple which is another pet peeve of mine with films.

Some of them go directly to an Apple, Netflix, Max, whatever and if you don't subscribe to them then you won't get to see it outside of maybe purchasing it blindly for $25
It's infuriating so i choose to mostly not participate. There are some movies coming out this year that I am interested in, usually certain directors or actors draw me into a film

It's a movie about F1, of course it is depending on overseas viewers.

The studios are banking on the overseas money for most of the bigger budget films and they tell the directors what they want

-Side story, the studio wanted to cut the scene where Madsen cuts off the ear of the police officer in Reservoir Dogs, said it would make the film very unappealing to women
Tarantino refused to cut the scene and even threatened to try and get distribution from another studio if necessary and for a first time director that was pretty ballsy

2nd side story Sylvester Stallone refused to sell the rights to Rocky to any studio that wouldn't cast him as Rocky, studios offered him 6 figures for the movie rights and he refused
Stallone wrote Rocky in 3 days

F1 is a very international sport. It's like Hollywood making a movie about hockey and you complaining that it appeals too much to the Canadian, Russian and Finnish. Your side stories have literally nothing to do with anything we've been talking about- people going to the movies.