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Danario Alexander or Brandon Gibson or MSW (1 Viewer)

Sweetness_34

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With Amendola now out of the way, and hopefully the team getting more and more comfortable with McDaniels' system, who is the WR to have going forward in STL? Gibson or Alexander or MSW? They are coming off a bye week so hopefully again the O is going to get better as Bradford and the WRs get more familiarity. The WRs should score points this week for sure as they have to throw a lot to stay competitive against GB. Also, with the Rams D being so bad, they will need to throw all year long to stay competitive in general. Finally, the NFC West provides lots of soft pass defenses. This could be a sleeper situation that helps a lot of teams down the line, especially through the bye weeks, now that STL is done with their bye. Was wondering what the shark pool thought of this situation. All 3 WRs have had one good week (>10 pts in PPR) but all 3 WRs have had one dud week too (~0). So what's the scoop Rams homers and others?

I have listed the targets and other relevant stats below through 4 weeks:

Alexander:

Targets: DNP; 7, 7, 8

Production (Catches; Yards; TDs): DNP; 3/122/1 TD; 2/28/0; 3/46/0

Gibson:

Targets: 5; 8; 7; 1

Production (Catches; Yards; TDs): 3/50/0; 4/52/0; 5/55/1; 1/14/0

MSW:

Targets: 4; 11; 6; 6

Production (Catches; Yards; TDs): 1/5/0; 6/92/0; 3/36/0; 1/6/0

 
I have owned all three and I have watched their games (painful) and now I own none and will not be acquiring Clayton either. If I had to get one now it would be Clayton. This is week 6 and he still has some time to come off PUP. Alexander should be awesome, but he's not. MSW should be a big wide open rangy red zone target but he's not. Kendrick is supposed to be a modern pro style TE but he's not. Josh McDaniel is supposed to be the kid OC who made Cassell and Lloyd but he's not. Etc.

When it comes to St Louis I AM adding, but it's usually the defense playing them if I can get them.

 
I have owned all three and I have watched their games (painful) and now I own none and will not be acquiring Clayton either. If I had to get one now it would be Clayton. This is week 6 and he still has some time to come off PUP. Alexander should be awesome, but he's not. MSW should be a big wide open rangy red zone target but he's not. Kendrick is supposed to be a modern pro style TE but he's not. Josh McDaniel is supposed to be the kid OC who made Cassell and Lloyd but he's not. Etc. When it comes to St Louis I AM adding, but it's usually the defense playing them if I can get them.
LOL ok :) ... I guess that Bradford is the next best thing since sliced bread talk shall subside in the Shark Pool going fwd.
 
They all suck.
Gave Gibson every chance I could to flourish on FavreCo. He's gone for once Andre comes back. Damian Williams took his place permanently after last weeks effort. The whole O is offensive. Josh McDaniels really took this team down some notches, putting it mildly. He is the biggest change from last year.
 
They all suck.
Gave Gibson every chance I could to flourish on FavreCo. He's gone for once Andre comes back. Damian Williams took his place permanently after last weeks effort. The whole O is offensive. Josh McDaniels really took this team down some notches, putting it mildly. He is the biggest change from last year.
I dropped Gibson for D Williams this morning as well. I cannot wait for the STL passing attack to attack. There is potential there but I do not know when it actually comes together for Bradford and the WRs. Maybe it is the lack of chemistry between Bradford and the WRs.
 
I still own (and am probably starting this week to the AJ injury/short benches) Dennario alexander. :shrug: Until he gets hurt again he still has the deep ball speed, and has been getting the most targets of three. GB should pound them, which means they'll have to be throwing the ball to keep up. He's a decent shot for 4 for 120 and a TD. Howeber it's big boom bust guy, as he could just as easily get 3 for 43 and 0 td.

 
I think Clayton's the best bet the rest of the way if he's healthy.

Someone is likely to have a big game this week against the Packers. Good luck figuring out which one it will be.

 
The Rams schedule is really easy against the pass the rest of the way. I don't see any fearsome matchups and a lot of great ones. I'm looking into both Alexander and Clayton; the latter has a better chance to be a high target guy, but Alexander is ready to go right now and has clearly taken the big play role.

 
The Rams schedule is really easy against the pass the rest of the way. I don't see any fearsome matchups and a lot of great ones. I'm looking into both Alexander and Clayton; the latter has a better chance to be a high target guy, but Alexander is ready to go right now and has clearly taken the big play role.
Hard to take Clayton seriously until he practices and looks good. People are putting a lot of stock in a guy who had four good games after years of pedestrian numbers and then blew out the knee. Seems doubtful he will be more than a complementary receiver if he is able to prove he is healthy. Alexander is getting the most targets and is the deep ball/TD threat and has the most red zone targets of any Ram also (despite not playing week 1). I think his stock is the highest at this point. This much we know: One or more Rams receivers is certain to emerge and be at least an upper-end WR3 this season. Bradford is better than he's looked and the schedule is favorable. Taking flyers on Rams receivers is not a bad idea for those who need to hit a home run with a waiver wire WR this season.
 
I've watched the Rams on several occasions this year, while they do have 'some' talent on the offensive side, to me it just looks like Bradford is all over the place with his throws. He will look great on one throw, then then next one is so far off you're wondering what he's throwing at, he's done this over and over this year. I like D.Alexander, but Bradford right now is so inconsistent I don't want to own any WR on that team. Bradford has not made any of his wideouts his 'go-to guy' either, which makes owning any of them a crapshoot from week to week. I would wait and see if Bradford can get things together alittle bit before rostering any of his wideouts.

 
I added Gibson and Alexander for by week filler - if they take off I have them, if they don't they are just bye week filler. PPR league is why I took Gibson, big play potential is why I took Alexander (plus I am a Mizzou fan).

 
This much we know: One or more Rams receivers is certain to emerge and be at least an upper-end WR3 this season.
I'm not sure we know that.One or more? Yeah, I definitely don't know that. I think everyone assumed this team was getting better this year, taking the next step. I think we may need to be ready for the notion that this team is going backwards.

There might be just enough WRs of a similar talent level to keep one of them from emerging. There is no rule that every team has to produce a #1 go-to guy. Maybe they take turns, which they've been doing lately. Danario is the big-play/red zone guy, but that's also his problem, he's the big-play guy on an offense without a lot of big plays. And if he gets out of bed wrong, he'll blow his knee out again.

I picked up Clayton, hoping he can become a decent WR5 or 6 in PPR. Not optimistic about it, but maybe when SJax gets healthy again for 4 weeks or so before he gets injured again, the offense picks up a little bit.

 
I still own (and am probably starting this week to the AJ injury/short benches) Dennario alexander. :shrug: Until he gets hurt again he still has the deep ball speed, and has been getting the most targets of three. GB should pound them, which means they'll have to be throwing the ball to keep up. He's a decent shot for 4 for 120 and a TD. Howeber it's big boom bust guy, as he could just as easily get 3 for 43 and 0 td.
Agreed
 
I still own (and am probably starting this week to the AJ injury/short benches) Dennario alexander. :shrug: Until he gets hurt again he still has the deep ball speed, and has been getting the most targets of three. GB should pound them, which means they'll have to be throwing the ball to keep up. He's a decent shot for 4 for 120 and a TD. Howeber it's big boom bust guy, as he could just as easily get 3 for 43 and 0 td.
Due to bye weeks I'm starting Alexander in a league where I can start five WRs. I agree he's a boom or bust guy. I don't see any middle ground with him. I'm rolling the dice and chasing the upside even though I know there's a huge risk involved.I still think Clayton is the guy to own going forward if he's healthy. Alexander seems to be a one-trick pony. Gibson is a decent move-the-chains guy but nothing special and Sims-Walker hasn't shown he can do anything consistently well other than one season in Jacksonville. Clayton and Bradford had great rapport last season likely due to their college connection and if Clayton's healthy I could see Bradford really leaning on him given how badly the Rams need someone to step up in the passing game.
 
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DX and Kendricks have been getting the lion's share of targets, but I think Clayton is the guy to own if he can return to form. It's a toss-up b/t DX and Clayton, then the rest.

 
'rickyg said:
I still own (and am probably starting this week to the AJ injury/short benches) Dennario alexander. :shrug: Until he gets hurt again he still has the deep ball speed, and has been getting the most targets of three. GB should pound them, which means they'll have to be throwing the ball to keep up. He's a decent shot for 4 for 120 and a TD. Howeber it's big boom bust guy, as he could just as easily get 3 for 43 and 0 td.
Agreed
Agreed. I just dropped MSW for Alexander. A little worried about Clayton coming back, but I'm sticking with the 6'5 target that probably hasn't shown his ceiling yet (unlike Clayton and MSW).
 
Brandon LLoyd
At 0-4 (and probably 0-7 based on their upcoming schedule) trading draft picks for a 30 year old WR makes little to no sense for the Rams - regardless of reports. If they actually make this trade, IMHO it stinks of "OMG! Lets get 4 or 5 wins and save our jobs!" - at the risk of being little more than a band aid (one that rids them of a draft pick and possibly stunts the development of other WRs).Honestly, if the Rams were to make the trade for Lloyd, it would reflect poorly on their orginizational goals, imho.
 
Brandon LLoyd
At 0-4 (and probably 0-7 based on their upcoming schedule) trading draft picks for a 30 year old WR makes little to no sense for the Rams - regardless of reports. If they actually make this trade, IMHO it stinks of "OMG! Lets get 4 or 5 wins and save our jobs!" - at the risk of being little more than a band aid (one that rids them of a draft pick and possibly stunts the development of other WRs).Honestly, if the Rams were to make the trade for Lloyd, it would reflect poorly on their orginizational goals, imho.
I dunno - I think it helps Bradford's development. And they probably aren't loooking at 30 like we are in FF, either.
 
I think the pool has a very short memory or a less than appreciative understanding of how complex a new offense can be to install, and more importantly to ingrain. I dislike the guy, but certainly in dynasty terms, if not re-draft, McDaniels WILL produce a high powered offense. Pats, Broncos (making Orton and Marshall and Lloyd pro-bowler level producers). And watching Ocho struggling to learn the system in NE amidst a bunch of less talented guys who understand it. Its apparently real complicated and the first half season, maybe full season, the effort is in learning it, then it takes more time for it to become instinctive. But when it does, for QB and WRs, its a gravy train.

I think steady improvement from here out this year as it gets more ingrained, and real efficiency (probowl level for Bradford) comes next year. I don't think Clayton has much chance to get it this year, and until he does, I don't think McDaniel won't play him much. I think Alexander remains the best pick to be productive this year, and if healthy I think he'll post WR3+ numbers from here in. But figure out next year's Welker/Moss/Marshall/Lloyd producer(s) and lock him/them up - they'll be diamonds.

For me, DX, now and also for '12 (very low cost makes him worth the high injury risk).

 
I think the pool has a very short memory or a less than appreciative understanding of how complex a new offense can be to install, and more importantly to ingrain. I dislike the guy, but certainly in dynasty terms, if not re-draft, McDaniels WILL produce a high powered offense. Pats, Broncos (making Orton and Marshall and Lloyd pro-bowler level producers). And watching Ocho struggling to learn the system in NE amidst a bunch of less talented guys who understand it. Its apparently real complicated and the first half season, maybe full season, the effort is in learning it, then it takes more time for it to become instinctive. But when it does, for QB and WRs, its a gravy train. I think steady improvement from here out this year as it gets more ingrained, and real efficiency (probowl level for Bradford) comes next year. I don't think Clayton has much chance to get it this year, and until he does, I don't think McDaniel won't play him much. I think Alexander remains the best pick to be productive this year, and if healthy I think he'll post WR3+ numbers from here in. But figure out next year's Welker/Moss/Marshall/Lloyd producer(s) and lock him/them up - they'll be diamonds.For me, DX, now and also for '12 (very low cost makes him worth the high injury risk).
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Mark Clayton is the biggest waste of a roster spot I've read about on here. Guy had a serious injury that takes time to come back from. This is a whole new offense. He's had like 4 good games his entire career, and that was when he was 100% healthy and after having a full off season and training camp.

 
Count me in. After hearing that MSW was a healthy scratch today I dropped my speculative Demaryus Thomas pickup and added danario. A lot of people have up on the rams and rightfully so. But tho kid still has talent and the last time the rams played a soft secondary and fell behind big (exactly what will happen today) Bradford threw for over 300 yds and Alexander had a big day.

That was week 2 vs NYG. Today will be a big garbage time catchup day fr Bradford and co and i think Alexander is the biggest beneficiary.

I benched mile Williams tb for Alexander

 
It's pretty window an hour south of Green Bay right now, just a heads-up.

Also, I am starting Alexander over Ford this week.

 
Trying to decide between Alexander and Kevin Walter due to bye week issues. Anyone know how GB has been giving up their passing yards? Was it on underneath stuff, or to tall deep threats like Alexander?

 
Trying to decide between Alexander and Kevin Walter due to bye week issues. Anyone know how GB has been giving up their passing yards? Was it on underneath stuff, or to tall deep threats like Alexander?
Prior to the Falcons' game, the yardage has come everywhere. Brandon Lloyd could've put up around 250 yards in the Denver game, for example. He finished with 136 but had a 50-yard gain negated by a penalty and Orton missed him on what should've been about a 50-yard TD. Lloyd was wide open but Orton underthrew him. Last week was the first time this season the Packers showed any ability to slow down a passing game. We'll see if it continues today.
 
Count me in. After hearing that MSW was a healthy scratch today I dropped my speculative Demaryus Thomas pickup and added danario. A lot of people have up on the rams and rightfully so. But tho kid still has talent and the last time the rams played a soft secondary and fell behind big (exactly what will happen today) Bradford threw for over 300 yds and Alexander had a big day. That was week 2 vs NYG. Today will be a big garbage time catchup day fr Bradford and co and i think Alexander is the biggest beneficiary. I benched mile Williams tb for Alexander
Lol, I dropped Thomas for Alexander once I heard the MSW news, too.
 

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