Stubbornly? He was always the RB with the “most talent”I stubbornly held him all year in my dynasty league. Hopefully he can get some more carries to end the season. Then we will see what happens this offseason.
Stubbornly? He was always the RB with the “most talent”I stubbornly held him all year in my dynasty league. Hopefully he can get some more carries to end the season. Then we will see what happens this offseason.
Would take some serious to start him at this point. Hope he does well thoughEarly thoughts for this week?
Darwin Thompson compiled seven yards on four carries while nabbing four catches for an additional 36 yards on five targets Sunday in the Chiefs’ Week 14 win over the Patriots.
Thompson surprisingly led the Chiefs' backfield in touches last week but that was not the case Sunday as the sixth-round rookie took a clear backseat to LeSean McCoy while also seeing fewer snaps than Spencer Ware, who was making his 2019 debut following a nearly fourth-month stint of unemployment. Though he didn't make much headway as a ball-carrier, Thompson did show well as a receiver, turning four catches into a career-high 36 receiving yards. He'll stay involved if Damien Williams (ribs) misses another game in Week 15, though starting Thompson in fantasy would be a Hail Mary.
Dec 8, 2019, 9:23 PM ET
I don’t think I can ever start him, I’m about to cut bait with him and use his roster spot for the latest waiver wire darling. A few weeks too late, lol.I can't bring myself to start him this week. Maybe next if he shows well with a lot of usage or McCoy goes down.
If you’re talking about the #2 guy after CEH, I think Darrel Williams stands just as much a chance - if not more - at being that guy. Darwin had all the hype last off-season, but if he were that good, Reid would have played him and probably not brought in other guys in the offseason.This is the guy you want to go after following Damien Williams' retirement.
No one is saying he is “that good”If you’re talking about the #2 guy after CEH, I think Darrel Williams stands just as much a chance - if not more - at being that guy. Darwin had all the hype last off-season, but if he were that good, Reid would have played him and probably not brought in other guys in the offseason.
This is what I disagree with. Darrel Williams was coming on last year and got a lot more PT than Darwin when Damien went down and Shady was underperforming (and then Darrel went down for the year). I don’t even think it’s out of the question that DeAndre Washington would be the next man up.No one is saying he is “that good”If you’re talking about the #2 guy after CEH, I think Darrel Williams stands just as much a chance - if not more - at being that guy. Darwin had all the hype last off-season, but if he were that good, Reid would have played him and probably not brought in other guys in the offseason.
Thompson is an obvious next man up to fill some or all of a roll Williams was going to have. I have a feeling Andy Reid will use CEH as much as he would have if Williams didn’t opt out.
Good points all aroundThis is what I disagree with. Darrel Williams was coming on last year and got a lot more PT than Darwin when Damien went down and Shady was underperforming (and then Darrel went down for the year). I don’t even think it’s out of the question that DeAndre Washington would be the next man up.
Your reasoning is a fallacy. 1)Teams need a bunch of running backs. KC wasn't going to go into 2020 with three of them. 2) Many players have needed a rookie year to develope.If you’re talking about the #2 guy after CEH, I think Darrel Williams stands just as much a chance - if not more - at being that guy. Darwin had all the hype last off-season, but if he were that good, Reid would have played him and probably not brought in other guys in the offseason.
I agree that rookies sometimes need a season to develop, but the RB position is more often plug and play. Kareem Hunt came right in and thrived, although granted he is a considerable talent. If Thompson was all that, I think he would have gotten more playing time when Damien got hurt last year.Your reasoning is a fallacy. 1)Teams need a bunch of running backs. KC wasn't going to go into 2020 with three of them. 2) Many players have needed a rookie year to develope.
If I've learned anything from Andy's time in KC, you never know what the hell he's going to do at RB. I admit the most likely outcome is CEH getting majority of the work, but this is not foregone. I think it's a little overstated based on some of the trades I've seen. Just so I'm clear, I think Thompson is a dark horse here, but he is so forgotten he's basically free, more free than Darrel Williams. I think Darwin's definitely worth dropping KeSsean Johnson for, having pretty good upside, apparently unappriciated upside..
I agree with this, and is more often the case in fantasy football than we appreciate. I would only add CEH doesn't have to falter or get injured for any of these guys to get playing time, ask Rashaad Penny.I may be way off, but IMO the path to the starting gig of CEH falters/gets hurt is muddled at best.
The CEH hype is out of control.Bought into the hype in last year's rookie draft and was just getting comfortable with the idea of not protecting him. For me this makes him a definite hold, albeit on a short early season leash. I think CEH's share goes up some, but not as much as those that now have him as a mid/late 1st in redraft. I fully expect a rotation of Darrel Williams, Thompson, and Washington to pick up most of Damien's workload early. So I think the opportunity will be there for Darwin, just a matter of whether enough of the 2019 hype was real that he will actually be able to distinguish himself from that group to make a compelling case for a large share of Damien's workload. If he doesn't, I will at least have a much easier drop to make.
This is ahead of Joe Mixon, Nick Chubb, Josh Jacobs, Miles Sanders, Derrick Henery, and maybe Dalvin Cook?My main league just drafted this weekend and this league has been going on since 1995. CEH went at the 1.10.
Matt Waldman @MattWaldman
Thompson is a stronger Tarik Cohen with not quite the vertical receiving skill but excellent quicks, contact balance, and STRENGTH.
This guy is like Dion Lewis with Thump. He can develop into a focal point RB as a hybrid guy with the right scheme.
KC is that scheme.
4:01 PM · Apr 27, 2019
I regret you not understanding what Waldman said.And the biggest overhype in the history of the Shark Pool has come to an end. I bet Waldman regrets this analysis:
And the biggest overhype in the history of the Shark Pool has come to an end. I bet Waldman regrets this analysis:
Wasn't DT a 6th round pick? Him sticking around as long as he did proved he has talent. Some get opportunites, other don't. He was obviously a long shot.And the biggest overhype in the history of the Shark Pool has come to an end. I bet Waldman regrets this analysis:
He's had plenty of whiffs. He's also had plenty of home runs. CMC, Chubb, Mahomes, and Lamar Jackson all come to mind in recent memory. You can't win them all.Waldman admits to his misses, and Thompson was probably his biggest whiff. But he nailed Nick Chubb and I am in lockstep with his Trey Sermon evaluation. I also agreed with his Etienne criticism as I believe he was way overvalued/drafted.
Waldman is one of the better analysts out there IMHO. His evaluation is another datapoint, just like Matt Harmon's and other, more technical analysts.
Waldman admits to his misses, and Thompson was probably his biggest whiff. But he nailed Nick Chubb and I am in lockstep with his Trey Sermon evaluation. I also agreed with his Etienne criticism as I believe he was way overvalued/drafted.
Waldman is one of the better analysts out there IMHO. His evaluation is another datapoint, just like Matt Harmon's and other, more technical analysts.
TripItUp said:Waldman admits to his misses, and Thompson was probably his biggest whiff. But he nailed Nick Chubb and I am in lockstep with his Trey Sermon evaluation. I also agreed with his Etienne criticism as I believe he was way overvalued/drafted.
Waldman is one of the better analysts out there IMHO. His evaluation is another datapoint, just like Matt Harmon's and other, more technical analysts.
I wouldn’t bother - probably the last time we see this thread.Thread title update?
Signed to reserve/futures contract today by the Seahawks.
Pass blocking, size, and a role in the offense. He's an older rookie at 23, he's 3 inches shorter and 12-15 pounds lighter than Williams at 5'8" 198-200 lbs, and he's bad at pass blocking. He was a 6th round pick who is hoping to just make the team, and he's got a difficult road to get there let alone a starting job. Guys his size and shape typically hope to get a shot on special teams and an occasional offensive snap before maybe getting a third down role. But even if he beats the odds, makes the team, passes one of Damien Williams, hyde and Darrell Williams to make the roster (the chiefs typically keep 3 backs plus a fullback) then passes the other two to not only get touches but actually get to start, and then has over 600 yards and 10 touchdowns in his first 6 starts he'll apparently be a hard sell next offseason because nobody will believe in him and will be betting on the next next big thing.Power, pass catching ability and heart. What aren't you seeing?
All good points.Pass blocking, size, and a role in the offense. He's an older rookie at 23, he's 3 inches shorter and 12-15 pounds lighter than Williams at 5'8" 198-200 lbs, and he's bad at pass blocking. He was a 6th round pick who is hoping to just make the team, and he's got a difficult road to get there let alone a starting job. Guys his size and shape typically hope to get a shot on special teams and an occasional offensive snap before maybe getting a third down role. But even if he beats the odds, makes the team, passes one of Damien Williams, hyde and Darrell Williams to make the roster (the chiefs typically keep 3 backs plus a fullback) then passes the other two to not only get touches but actually get to start, and then has over 600 yards and 10 touchdowns in his first 6 starts he'll apparently be a hard sell next offseason because nobody will believe in him and will be betting on the next next big thing.Power, pass catching ability and heart. What aren't you seeing?
Looking back at this and thinking about my pro allgeier stance from this year. Entirely possible Allgeier gets replaced your offseason so I'm not looking at the results just the difference in the two prospects.
Both entered a rb room that had questionable talent. Both were day 3 picks. Both had positive attributes that made scouts think they might be steals. Both went to teams whose starters surprised people the previous year.
Allgeier has prototype size. Darwin was small.
Allgeier went to a run heavy coach. Darwin went to a much lower volume offense.
The chiefs needed a pass blocker who could do other things. The Falcons needed a pounder.
The chiefs had a bunch of decent veterans so a new guy would have to be head and shoulders better to get the lead role. The Falcons wanted to complement a very good but aging Cordarelle after he started off hot and cooled down late in 2021, and Allgeier was the highest drafted guy they went after to do it.
In other words, Allgeier was drafted to fill a role that he was well suited for, and Darwin was drafted as depth in a role that was already filled, in the hopes that he could become a good pass blocker and succeed at 198 lbs.
Yet Allgeier was going in the mid- late second or third in rookie drafts and Darwin crept into the first.
Stuff to think about when evaluating late round rb flyers.
My take on Allgeier is and has been that Atlanta can't live on Cordarelle alone. It's not that Cordarelle is small or incapable, but he's old for a feature back and he's never had to survive a full season workload as a running back. When he has tried, he's worn down. A sane coach would use Cordarelle as a change of pace and bring in a pounder who can soften defenses and survive the beating game after game. That's Allgeier. And that's exactly what happened down the stretch once Patterson predictably wore down.All good points.Pass blocking, size, and a role in the offense. He's an older rookie at 23, he's 3 inches shorter and 12-15 pounds lighter than Williams at 5'8" 198-200 lbs, and he's bad at pass blocking. He was a 6th round pick who is hoping to just make the team, and he's got a difficult road to get there let alone a starting job. Guys his size and shape typically hope to get a shot on special teams and an occasional offensive snap before maybe getting a third down role. But even if he beats the odds, makes the team, passes one of Damien Williams, hyde and Darrell Williams to make the roster (the chiefs typically keep 3 backs plus a fullback) then passes the other two to not only get touches but actually get to start, and then has over 600 yards and 10 touchdowns in his first 6 starts he'll apparently be a hard sell next offseason because nobody will believe in him and will be betting on the next next big thing.Power, pass catching ability and heart. What aren't you seeing?
Looking back at this and thinking about my pro allgeier stance from this year. Entirely possible Allgeier gets replaced your offseason so I'm not looking at the results just the difference in the two prospects.
Both entered a rb room that had questionable talent. Both were day 3 picks. Both had positive attributes that made scouts think they might be steals. Both went to teams whose starters surprised people the previous year.
Allgeier has prototype size. Darwin was small.
Allgeier went to a run heavy coach. Darwin went to a much lower volume offense.
The chiefs needed a pass blocker who could do other things. The Falcons needed a pounder.
The chiefs had a bunch of decent veterans so a new guy would have to be head and shoulders better to get the lead role. The Falcons wanted to complement a very good but aging Cordarelle after he started off hot and cooled down late in 2021, and Allgeier was the highest drafted guy they went after to do it.
In other words, Allgeier was drafted to fill a role that he was well suited for, and Darwin was drafted as depth in a role that was already filled, in the hopes that he could become a good pass blocker and succeed at 198 lbs.
Yet Allgeier was going in the mid- late second or third in rookie drafts and Darwin crept into the first.
Stuff to think about when evaluating late round rb flyers.
I’m still not sold on Algier, and would not be surprised to see ATL being in competition, or at least a COP back to take on a receiving role.
But you were spot on with Thompson.
The hype was real. Never underestimate the captivation of FBGs over a Chiefs RB.Still LOL that this guy has an 18 page thread
The hype was real. Never underestimate the captivation of FBGs over a Chiefs RB.Still LOL that this guy has an 18 page thread
He has for FFHave to admit that after seeing this bumped, I thought he had passed away. That’s how long it’s been since he was a thing.