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It still kills me that they drafted maroney over him
If your definition of "likely" means less than 50% chance then I guess you're correct. Outside of that, I agree with your premise (excluding CJ from the equation).Do use the search function if you're interested in this topic. Someone started an identical thread within the last week which had numerous responses.
Guy will follow the money (as he should), and Carolina won't sniff what some other teams (teams that actually need a RB) will offer him.
You think it's less then 50 percent, I was thinking more like 80
I think there are a lot of variables still at play. I think 80% is definitely overstating his chances of leaving. Carolina loves him, he seems to like Carolina. Even if DeAngelo wants to leave, there's nothing saying Carolina won't just franchise him, anyway.
As has been discussed in other threads, there is no guarantee the franchise tag will be a viable option this year (under a locket scenario it may very well be challenged and beaten in court), let alone future years. I don't think it's a lock he leaves, but I don't think the franchise tag is a likely option at all.
You're right, no guarantee at all. If there was a guarantee that the tag would still be in play, I'd say there was a greater than 50% chance that DeAngelo was still a Panther next season. I was just saying that I think an 80% chance that he's gone is overestimating it.
He had 4 good games (out of the last 5) at the end of the year last year. Three of those could hardly be described as "the best D's." TB ranked DEAD LAST in YPC allowed last year, NYG was right in the middle of pack (14th), and NO was tied for 5th worst. The only good D he "tore up" was Minny in week 15.Also, according to this blog on pro-football-reference.com, DeAngelo Williams was one of the best RBs last year, when compared to the D's they faced.
I agree on the 80% thing. I'm just saying that a lot folks seem convinced that the franchise tag is a big part of the likelihood he will stay, and I personally think the odds of the tag actually being placed on him are very slim (lockout combined with this particular player in this particular situation).Assuming the tag passed all of the legal hurdles (and the costs associated with that), Williams would be the absolute poster child for why the tag can suck for players during CBA negotiations, and I don't think the Panthers in general want that fight with a guy who has been as honorable as Williams has during his stint there.I could certainly see the team and Williams just coming to an agreement on a contract though, so again, I agree about the 80%.
This.
Deangelo will command a ton of money and even though it wouldn't be close to Julius Peppers money, they didn't even consider resigning him. I don't think they will spend that much money on a tailback when they already have one great one. Plus I know they are very high on Tyrell Sutton as I, I think he could work very well with Stewart giving Stewart most of the carries and then putting sutton in at 3rd and 10 plusHoly Schneikes said:
I'm not sure comparing him to Peppers makes your case. Dude was a headcase/malcontent his last year or two in Carolina. It's no shock the Panthers didn't want to pony up cash for him. Deangelo, on the other hand, appears to be the model teammate & employee. Huge difference.
i didnt say he was more talented then those RBs i just said if it wasnt for stewart he would be a top 5 pick
You're probably right. At the same time, so would Stewart if not for Williams being there.
Yeah I agree
Isn't your topic:
Well, If I were Seattle, I'd draft a top O-lineman this offseason and make a pitch to sign DeAngelo.
I bet the tagging system is reworked a bit but that it stays. There's transition tags and such that don't seem to be utilized all that often. I have a hard time believing the NFLPA would bark at any type of issue that guarantees a player the right to be top 5 paid at his position. Also, I don't much care for players when they whine about being paid amidst the top 5 and think the general public feels the same.Maybe rework it some, but seems like a sound idea to continue that both sides would be in favor of.SSOG said:
In addition to Okung or was that step 1?
Is okung not a top o lineman
You mean top 5 of all time?Career leaders in yards per rush attempt at RB1. Bo Jackson 5.42. Chris Johnson 5.33. Jim Brown 5.24. Mercury Morris 5.15. DeAngelo Williams 5.16. Gale Sayers 5.07. Barry Sanders 5.0
I assume you aren't implying that's the only stat that matters or it's even that great a measurement of a RB's talent.
