Deangelo Williams (1 Viewer)

[Burning Sensation]

LaBrandon Toefield-RB-Panthers Mar. 7 - 5:56 pm et

Panthers signed RB LaBrandon Toefield to a one-year contract.

If this is the best they can do, DeAngelo Williams will have an easy road to 300+ touches. Toefield, 27, was rarely used in Jacksonville and hasn't averaged over 4.0 YPC in his career. At 5'11/232, he has some short-yardage ability, but won't be a big threat to Williams' carries otherwise. We suspect Carolina will draft another back, though it probably won't happen early

 

[switz]

LaBrandon Toefield-RB-Panthers Mar. 7 - 5:56 pm et

Panthers signed RB LaBrandon Toefield to a one-year contract.

If this is the best they can do, DeAngelo Williams will have an easy road to 300+ touches. Toefield, 27, was rarely used in Jacksonville and hasn't averaged over 4.0 YPC in his career. At 5'11/232, he has some short-yardage ability, but won't be a big threat to Williams' carries otherwise. We suspect Carolina will draft another back, though it probably won't happen early

I've heard here in Charlotte that they want to draft a back early, maybe not first round, to compete with DeAngelo, as they aren't certain he can carry the load.

 

[Max Power]

LaBrandon Toefield-RB-Panthers Mar. 7 - 5:56 pm et

Panthers signed RB LaBrandon Toefield to a one-year contract.

If this is the best they can do, DeAngelo Williams will have an easy road to 300+ touches. Toefield, 27, was rarely used in Jacksonville and hasn't averaged over 4.0 YPC in his career. At 5'11/232, he has some short-yardage ability, but won't be a big threat to Williams' carries otherwise. We suspect Carolina will draft another back, though it probably won't happen early

I've heard here in Charlotte that they want to draft a back early, maybe not first round, to compete with DeAngelo, as they aren't certain he can carry the load.

Imagine how nice a Stewart/DWill backfield would look. However I think the Panthers will look D in rd 1. I can only assume the Panthers will be looking for a bigger back draft day...

 

[King of the Wolfies]

I'm hoping htey draft Charles. After he fumbles a few times, DeAngelo should be set as starter

 

[Brutis]

This is a guy who couldnt beat out foster. I fully expect them to draft a top RB early.

 

[The Man With No Name]

This is a guy who couldnt beat out foster. I fully expect them to draft a top RB early.

Why? A team doesn't need a top running back to win the Super Bowl. Out of the past 6 Super Bowl Champions, only 1 had a top 10 rb. And only 3 had a top 20 rb. Two of the 6 didn't even have a top 30 rb. 5 of the 6 had 2 top 40 rb's.New York Giants 2008 champ- Brandon Jacobs-21, Derrick Ward-37.Indianapolis Colts 2007 champ- Joseph Addai- 11, Dominic Rhodes-33.Pittsburgh Steelers 2006 champ- Willie Parker-15, Jerome Bettis-36.New Eng. Patriots 2005 champs- Correy Dillon-7.New Eng. Patriots 2004 champs- Kevin Faulk-34, Antowain Smith-39T.B. ZBuccaneers 2003 champs- Michael Pittman-32, Mike Alstott-34.

 

[Brutis]

This is a guy who couldnt beat out foster. I fully expect them to draft a top RB early.

Why? A team doesn't need a top running back to win the Super Bowl. Out of the past 6 Super Bowl Champions, only 1 had a top 10 rb. And only 3 had a top 20 rb. Two of the 6 didn't even have a top 30 rb. 5 of the 6 had 2 top 40 rb's.New York Giants 2008 champ- Brandon Jacobs-21, Derrick Ward-37.Indianapolis Colts 2007 champ- Joseph Addai- 11, Dominic Rhodes-33.Pittsburgh Steelers 2006 champ- Willie Parker-15, Jerome Bettis-36.New Eng. Patriots 2005 champs- Correy Dillon-7.New Eng. Patriots 2004 champs- Kevin Faulk-34, Antowain Smith-39T.B. ZBuccaneers 2003 champs- Michael Pittman-32, Mike Alstott-34.

You're right, I dont know what I was thinking. OFCOURSE a team that could use a top RB will just let it pass them by. Im sure Carolina has no interest in improving their running game.

 

[travdogg]

Carolina would be stupid to draft Stewart! They have about a half-dozen bigger needs than someone to split carries with DeAngelo. Plus knowing Fox, Stewart would have to sit behind DeAngelo for 2 years anyway.

I think this is excellent news for DWill owners.

 

[switz]

Carolina would be stupid to draft Stewart! They have about a half-dozen bigger needs than someone to split carries with DeAngelo. Plus knowing Fox, Stewart would have to sit behind DeAngelo for 2 years anyway.I think this is excellent news for DWill owners.

Given Fox's history, I'm not so certain Stewart wouldn't be the day 1 starter. Fox prefers more powerful running backs, bigger grind it out backs.

 

[NYCGangGreen]

Panthers signed RB LaBrandon Toefield to a one-year contract.

If this is the best they can do, DeAngelo Williams will have an easy road to 300+ touches. Toefield, 27, was rarely used in Jacksonville and hasn't averaged over 4.0 YPC in his career. At 5'11/232, he has some short-yardage ability, but won't be a big threat to Williams' carries otherwise. We suspect Carolina will draft another back, though it probably won't happen early.

Source: Rock Hill Herald

 

[travdogg]

Carolina would be stupid to draft Stewart! They have about a half-dozen bigger needs than someone to split carries with DeAngelo. Plus knowing Fox, Stewart would have to sit behind DeAngelo for 2 years anyway.I think this is excellent news for DWill owners.

Given Fox's history, I'm not so certain Stewart wouldn't be the day 1 starter. Fox prefers more powerful running backs, bigger grind it out backs.

Stewart probably would be an upgrade to DeAngelo, but its not worth finding out IMO.They need a DE, DT, LB, S, OG, WR and maybe an OT more than a RB.

 

[Couch Potato]

Carolina would be stupid to draft Stewart! They have about a half-dozen bigger needs than someone to split carries with DeAngelo. Plus knowing Fox, Stewart would have to sit behind DeAngelo for 2 years anyway.I think this is excellent news for DWill owners.

Given Fox's history, I'm not so certain Stewart wouldn't be the day 1 starter. Fox prefers more powerful running backs, bigger grind it out backs.

What explains burning a 1st round pick on D Williams then, with other needs to fill at the time? I'm not alone in being confused that they'd draft him and not make use of him more than they have. If they didn't have 1st round plans for him, they should have picked a guy in a lower round to fill this lesser role they've used him in up to now.

 

[switz]

Carolina would be stupid to draft Stewart! They have about a half-dozen bigger needs than someone to split carries with DeAngelo. Plus knowing Fox, Stewart would have to sit behind DeAngelo for 2 years anyway.I think this is excellent news for DWill owners.

Given Fox's history, I'm not so certain Stewart wouldn't be the day 1 starter. Fox prefers more powerful running backs, bigger grind it out backs.

What explains burning a 1st round pick on D Williams then, with other needs to fill at the time? I'm not alone in being confused that they'd draft him and not make use of him more than they have. If they didn't have 1st round plans for him, they should have picked a guy in a lower round to fill this lesser role they've used him in up to now.

Unfortunately, I'm of the opinion that the Front Office and the Coaching staff don't agree on what they want the identity of this team to be...Remember, the year they drafted Dwilly in the first, they also drafted Shelton in the second...I think they just list a bunch of players, and then throw darts on draft day

 

[travdogg]

Carolina would be stupid to draft Stewart! They have about a half-dozen bigger needs than someone to split carries with DeAngelo. Plus knowing Fox, Stewart would have to sit behind DeAngelo for 2 years anyway.I think this is excellent news for DWill owners.

Given Fox's history, I'm not so certain Stewart wouldn't be the day 1 starter. Fox prefers more powerful running backs, bigger grind it out backs.

What explains burning a 1st round pick on D Williams then, with other needs to fill at the time? I'm not alone in being confused that they'd draft him and not make use of him more than they have. If they didn't have 1st round plans for him, they should have picked a guy in a lower round to fill this lesser role they've used him in up to now.

Unfortunately, I'm of the opinion that the Front Office and the Coaching staff don't agree on what they want the identity of this team to be...Remember, the year they drafted Dwilly in the first, they also drafted Shelton in the second...I think they just list a bunch of players, and then throw darts on draft day

Actually Shelton was the year before Williams. I remember this because some guy in our league traded up to the 1.05 spot in our rookie draft to get him. Of course the picks he gave up to move turned into Braylon and the other turned into Marion Barber.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Carolina would be stupid to draft Stewart! They have about a half-dozen bigger needs than someone to split carries with DeAngelo. Plus knowing Fox, Stewart would have to sit behind DeAngelo for 2 years anyway.I think this is excellent news for DWill owners.

Given Fox's history, I'm not so certain Stewart wouldn't be the day 1 starter. Fox prefers more powerful running backs, bigger grind it out backs.

What explains burning a 1st round pick on D Williams then, with other needs to fill at the time? I'm not alone in being confused that they'd draft him and not make use of him more than they have. If they didn't have 1st round plans for him, they should have picked a guy in a lower round to fill this lesser role they've used him in up to now.

Unfortunately, I'm of the opinion that the Front Office and the Coaching staff don't agree on what they want the identity of this team to be...Remember, the year they drafted Dwilly in the first, they also drafted Shelton in the second...I think they just list a bunch of players, and then throw darts on draft day

They drafted Shelton the year before actually.

 

[switz]

Carolina would be stupid to draft Stewart! They have about a half-dozen bigger needs than someone to split carries with DeAngelo. Plus knowing Fox, Stewart would have to sit behind DeAngelo for 2 years anyway.I think this is excellent news for DWill owners.

Given Fox's history, I'm not so certain Stewart wouldn't be the day 1 starter. Fox prefers more powerful running backs, bigger grind it out backs.

What explains burning a 1st round pick on D Williams then, with other needs to fill at the time? I'm not alone in being confused that they'd draft him and not make use of him more than they have. If they didn't have 1st round plans for him, they should have picked a guy in a lower round to fill this lesser role they've used him in up to now.

Unfortunately, I'm of the opinion that the Front Office and the Coaching staff don't agree on what they want the identity of this team to be...Remember, the year they drafted Dwilly in the first, they also drafted Shelton in the second...I think they just list a bunch of players, and then throw darts on draft day

They drafted Shelton the year before actually.

Still... do you spend a 2nd round pick on a guy you don't use AT ALL?

 

[travdogg]

Well Shelton was a major reach where they took him(according to the people at the draft) and then he suffered a major injury and never seemed to recover. DeAngelo has played pretty well when given the chance and I think could easily be a 1000+ rusher if he gets 200some carries.

 

[switz]

Well Shelton was a major reach where they took him(according to the people at the draft) and then he suffered a major injury and never seemed to recover. DeAngelo has played pretty well when given the chance and I think could easily be a 1000+ rusher if he gets 200some carries.

Just proves the FO is clueless

 

[gregjcross]

Well Shelton was a major reach where they took him(according to the people at the draft) and then he suffered a major injury and never seemed to recover. DeAngelo has played pretty well when given the chance and I think could easily be a 1000+ rusher if he gets 200some carries.

Just proves the FO is clueless

Toefield isnt necessarily nothing, he is probably a more powerful runner than Deangelo

 

[The Man With No Name]

Well Shelton was a major reach where they took him(according to the people at the draft) and then he suffered a major injury and never seemed to recover. DeAngelo has played pretty well when given the chance and I think could easily be a 1000+ rusher if he gets 200some carries.

Wrong. I just watched my recording of the 2005 draft and Kiper, Mortenson, Berman, and Torry Holt had nothing but good things to say about the pick. Kiper said: " he is one of the better athletes at the running back position."

 

[Couch Potato]

Well Shelton was a major reach where they took him(according to the people at the draft) and then he suffered a major injury and never seemed to recover. DeAngelo has played pretty well when given the chance and I think could easily be a 1000+ rusher if he gets 200some carries.

Wrong. I just watched my recording of the 2005 draft and Kiper, Mortenson, Berman, and Torry Holt had nothing but good things to say about the pick. Kiper said: " he is one of the better athletes at the running back position."

Also, as I recall, Shelton's injury wasn't major. Some fairly minor foot thing as I recall, but he just wasn't getting it in preseason so they decided to IR him to stash him away rather than using roster space on him. Apparently, he never did get it.

 

[Beaumont]

Well Shelton was a major reach where they took him(according to the people at the draft) and then he suffered a major injury and never seemed to recover. DeAngelo has played pretty well when given the chance and I think could easily be a 1000+ rusher if he gets 200some carries.

Just proves the FO is clueless

Toefield isnt necessarily nothing, he is probably a more powerful runner than Deangelo

Not probably. Definitely.

 

[hitman2]

I have DWill in a PPR dynasty.

I hope he busts out.

I do fear that they'll draft Matt Forte in the 2nd/3rd though.

I have a feeling they'll try to replicate the Thunder & Lightning RBBC that DAL, NYG and NO have used effectively.

 

[travdogg]

Well Shelton was a major reach where they took him(according to the people at the draft) and then he suffered a major injury and never seemed to recover. DeAngelo has played pretty well when given the chance and I think could easily be a 1000+ rusher if he gets 200some carries.

Wrong. I just watched my recording of the 2005 draft and Kiper, Mortenson, Berman, and Torry Holt had nothing but good things to say about the pick. Kiper said: " he is one of the better athletes at the running back position."

Hmm, I remember distinctly hearing that Shelton was a reach and would be a bust. Maybe is was later that off season or something, or before the draft but I certainly remember hearing it before the 2005 season began.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

LaBrandon Toefield-RB-Panthers Mar. 7 - 5:56 pm et

Panthers signed RB LaBrandon Toefield to a one-year contract.

If this is the best they can do, DeAngelo Williams will have an easy road to 300+ touches. Toefield, 27, was rarely used in Jacksonville and hasn't averaged over 4.0 YPC in his career. At 5'11/232, he has some short-yardage ability, but won't be a big threat to Williams' carries otherwise. We suspect Carolina will draft another back, though it probably won't happen early

I've heard here in Charlotte that they want to draft a back early, maybe not first round, to compete with DeAngelo, as they aren't certain he can carry the load.

You live in Charlotte now?

 

[SproutDaddy]

Well Shelton was a major reach where they took him(according to the people at the draft) and then he suffered a major injury and never seemed to recover. DeAngelo has played pretty well when given the chance and I think could easily be a 1000+ rusher if he gets 200some carries.

Just proves the FO is clueless

Toefield isnt necessarily nothing, he is probably a more powerful runner than Deangelo

Not probably. Definitely.

I've seen both guys play in college and you're wrong.

 

[Beaumont]

Well Shelton was a major reach where they took him(according to the people at the draft) and then he suffered a major injury and never seemed to recover. DeAngelo has played pretty well when given the chance and I think could easily be a 1000+ rusher if he gets 200some carries.

Just proves the FO is clueless

Toefield isnt necessarily nothing, he is probably a more powerful runner than Deangelo

Not probably. Definitely.

I've seen both guys play in college and you're wrong.

Ive seen them both play in the pros and I'm right.

 

[kevinallen]

LaBrandon Toefield-RB-Panthers Mar. 7 - 5:56 pm et

Panthers signed RB LaBrandon Toefield to a one-year contract.

If this is the best they can do, DeAngelo Williams will have an easy road to 300+ touches. Toefield, 27, was rarely used in Jacksonville and hasn't averaged over 4.0 YPC in his career. At 5'11/232, he has some short-yardage ability, but won't be a big threat to Williams' carries otherwise. We suspect Carolina will draft another back, though it probably won't happen early

I've heard here in Charlotte that they want to draft a back early, maybe not first round, to compete with DeAngelo, as they aren't certain he can carry the load.

The Panthers will draft a RB to back up DeAngelo. 4th Round or so. The starting job belongs to Williams. Period.

 

[Brutis]

LaBrandon Toefield-RB-Panthers Mar. 7 - 5:56 pm et

Panthers signed RB LaBrandon Toefield to a one-year contract.

If this is the best they can do, DeAngelo Williams will have an easy road to 300+ touches. Toefield, 27, was rarely used in Jacksonville and hasn't averaged over 4.0 YPC in his career. At 5'11/232, he has some short-yardage ability, but won't be a big threat to Williams' carries otherwise. We suspect Carolina will draft another back, though it probably won't happen early

I've heard here in Charlotte that they want to draft a back early, maybe not first round, to compete with DeAngelo, as they aren't certain he can carry the load.

The Panthers will draft a RB to back up DeAngelo. 4th Round or so. The starting job belongs to Williams. Period.

ok lol

 

[Jeff Haseley]

The way I see this shaking out is this..

Deangelo is RB1
LaBrandon Toefield and draft pick (Matt Forte or Ray Rice?) will battle for short yardage and quite possibly goal line situations
The loser of the battle for short yardage will be used for depth and back up the other two backs. He will also battle Nick Goings for RB3

 

[rpreswood]

The signing of Toefield could be bad news for Williams. My guess is Fox and Hurney see him as another Stephen Davis. He has the same size and running style Davis did and that is the type of back Fox likes.

They drafted Shelton thinking he would replace Davis but they knew he was a bust his rookie year then took Williams in the following draft. They will draft another RB this year but it will not be until later on in rounds 4-6.

Williams will start at first because Fox is loyal to his guys but if he still struggles to run inside and in pass protection Toefield could overtake him early on as starter and have a huge year behind the Panthers revamped O-line. He very well could be the steal of fantasy drafts this year.

 

[Traders2001]

This is a guy who couldnt beat out foster. I fully expect them to draft a top RB early.

He played better then Foster each time he was on the field , just look at the numbers .They did nt want him to beat out Foster ( They had just signed him to a big contract ) there was never a competiton , huge difference .Williams Att 144 RY 717 YPC 5.0 Foster Att 247 RY 876 YPC 3.5If that s not beating him and badly i dont know what this is , they have zero reasons to draft a RB .

 

[H.K.]

LaBrandon Toefield-RB-Panthers Mar. 7 - 5:56 pm et

Panthers signed RB LaBrandon Toefield to a one-year contract.

If this is the best they can do, DeAngelo Williams will have an easy road to 300+ touches. Toefield, 27, was rarely used in Jacksonville and hasn't averaged over 4.0 YPC in his career. At 5'11/232, he has some short-yardage ability, but won't be a big threat to Williams' carries otherwise. We suspect Carolina will draft another back, though it probably won't happen early

I've heard here in Charlotte that they want to draft a back early, maybe not first round, to compete with DeAngelo, as they aren't certain he can carry the load.

You live in Charlotte now?

If this is true, then somebody get stbugs on the horn, conditions are ripe for:CHUG 2: The Spawning

 

[ConstruxBoy]

LaBrandon Toefield-RB-Panthers Mar. 7 - 5:56 pm et

Panthers signed RB LaBrandon Toefield to a one-year contract.

If this is the best they can do, DeAngelo Williams will have an easy road to 300+ touches. Toefield, 27, was rarely used in Jacksonville and hasn't averaged over 4.0 YPC in his career. At 5'11/232, he has some short-yardage ability, but won't be a big threat to Williams' carries otherwise. We suspect Carolina will draft another back, though it probably won't happen early

I've heard here in Charlotte that they want to draft a back early, maybe not first round, to compete with DeAngelo, as they aren't certain he can carry the load.

You live in Charlotte now?

If this is true, then somebody get stbugs on the horn, conditions are ripe for:CHUG 2: The Spawning

I'm not sure I want to think about switz and spawning.

 

[Garts]

The way I see this shaking out is this..

Deangelo is RB1
LaBrandon Toefield and draft pick (Matt Forte or Ray Rice?) will battle for short yardage and quite possibly goal line situations
The loser of the battle for short yardage will be used for depth and back up the other two backs. He will also battle Nick Goings for RB3

From what I've seen of D-Will he has ran fine at the stripe. If they want to save wear and tear and pull him there, that I can understand.They wouldn't pull him for lack of ability.

 

[The Duff Man]

As a DWill owner in one league I am more concerned about the Oline than another RB.

 

[Riffraff]

Toefield was known as Glassman.

I wouldn't be too worried about him staying healthy long enough to seriously vie for the top job.

 

[gregjcross]

Toefield was known as Glassman. I wouldn't be too worried about him staying healthy long enough to seriously vie for the top job.

im standing by my earlier post that Toefield was a very wise signing by CAR just like LB Landon Johnson. Both of these signings will get used this year in some capacity. While Deangelo has a decent chance at being a Fantasy #2 because of his burst and two years in the system, he will have competition for PT, and it starts with Toefield.

 

[FavreCo]

Unfortunately, I'm of the opinion that the Front Office and the Coaching staff don't agree on what they want the identity of this team to be...Remember, the year they drafted Dwilly in the first, they also drafted Shelton in the second...I think they just list a bunch of players, and then throw darts on draft day

Mgmt. proved itself clueless when it signed Carr last year. This after being unable to understand that Williams give the team a threat of explosiveness that Foster couldn't even dream of. Anything is possible with these idiots.

 

[gianmarco]

Here's the thing that sometimes confuses me. Believe me, I'm not a big fan of DeAngelo Williams at all nor am I sure he can carry the full load. But, while stats don't always tell the story, I see a pretty big disconnect between 2 guys---1 that people lobby for and another people seem to lobby against (with the exception of his owners).

DeAngelo Williams in 2007 (1st round selection, 5'10, 217 lbs)

---144 carries/717 yds/4 TDs at 5.0 ypc and 23 rec/177 yds/1 TD

Michael Turner in 2007 (1st round selection, 5'10, 237 lbs)

---71 carries/316 yds/1 TD at 4.5 ypc and 4 rec/16 yds/0 TD

Now, again, stats can definitely be misleading in terms of how a player looks on the field. However, there seems to be an overwhelming majority of people who feel Turner is a top talent and deserved the starting job he got. There's some disappointment he landed in Atlanta, but still feel he will do well. However, there doesn't seem to be a similar sentiment, esp. among some known Turner supporters that DeAngelo can do the same thing. Many Turner supporters point to his stats to show how well he's done yet when I've seen the same done for DeAngelo it doesn't seem to be good enough.

I agree that on the field, overall, I'm more impressed with Turner than DeAngelo at this point. However, when you look above, it just seems to be a large disconnect when you compare what the 2 have done on the field and how they are thought of. Is it the 20 lb difference? Is it stricly what's been seen (DeAngelo "dancing"), or is it something else I'm missing? I would also argue that DeAngelo played behind a far inferior line with less around him and put up better #'s.

So why is the general sentiment that DeAngelo can't cut it as a starter and isn't that good while Turner can cut it as a starter and is a top talent when the #'s, at least from 2007, tell a completely different story.

 

[Nemesis]

Are there any other FA RBs out there that might get signed to a 1 yr type contract?

What about Chris Brown? M.Pittman? Musa Smith?

 

[Jeff Haseley]

Are there any other FA RBs out there that might get signed to a 1 yr type contract?What about Chris Brown? M.Pittman? Musa Smith?

Yep, plus Warrick Dunn, Anthony Thomas, Samkon Gado, Vernand Morency, Tyson Thompson, Mike Anderson, Tatum Bell. As far as I know, they are unsigned right now. Derrick Ward is another, but I believe he is a RFA.

 

[switz]

LaBrandon Toefield-RB-Panthers Mar. 7 - 5:56 pm et

Panthers signed RB LaBrandon Toefield to a one-year contract.

If this is the best they can do, DeAngelo Williams will have an easy road to 300+ touches. Toefield, 27, was rarely used in Jacksonville and hasn't averaged over 4.0 YPC in his career. At 5'11/232, he has some short-yardage ability, but won't be a big threat to Williams' carries otherwise. We suspect Carolina will draft another back, though it probably won't happen early

I've heard here in Charlotte that they want to draft a back early, maybe not first round, to compete with DeAngelo, as they aren't certain he can carry the load.

You live in Charlotte now?

Yes...

 

[switz]

LaBrandon Toefield-RB-Panthers Mar. 7 - 5:56 pm et

Panthers signed RB LaBrandon Toefield to a one-year contract.

If this is the best they can do, DeAngelo Williams will have an easy road to 300+ touches. Toefield, 27, was rarely used in Jacksonville and hasn't averaged over 4.0 YPC in his career. At 5'11/232, he has some short-yardage ability, but won't be a big threat to Williams' carries otherwise. We suspect Carolina will draft another back, though it probably won't happen early

I've heard here in Charlotte that they want to draft a back early, maybe not first round, to compete with DeAngelo, as they aren't certain he can carry the load.

You live in Charlotte now?

If this is true, then somebody get stbugs on the horn, conditions are ripe for:CHUG 2: The Spawning

What is CHUG 2 - and should I be worried?

 

[ConstruxBoy]

LaBrandon Toefield-RB-Panthers Mar. 7 - 5:56 pm et

Panthers signed RB LaBrandon Toefield to a one-year contract.

If this is the best they can do, DeAngelo Williams will have an easy road to 300+ touches. Toefield, 27, was rarely used in Jacksonville and hasn't averaged over 4.0 YPC in his career. At 5'11/232, he has some short-yardage ability, but won't be a big threat to Williams' carries otherwise. We suspect Carolina will draft another back, though it probably won't happen early

I've heard here in Charlotte that they want to draft a back early, maybe not first round, to compete with DeAngelo, as they aren't certain he can carry the load.

You live in Charlotte now?

If this is true, then somebody get stbugs on the horn, conditions are ripe for:CHUG 2: The Spawning

What is CHUG 2 - and should I be worried?

Evil incarnate and yes

 

[H.K.]

What is CHUG 2 - and should I be worried?

Evil incarnate and yes

pms sent

 

[Ripleys]

look for the Panthers to draft a OL in the 1st or 2nd round, if not both!

 

[simey]

This is a guy who couldnt beat out foster. I fully expect them to draft a top RB early.

He played better then Foster each time he was on the field , just look at the numbers .They did nt want him to beat out Foster ( They had just signed him to a big contract ) there was never a competiton , huge difference .Williams Att 144 RY 717 YPC 5.0 Foster Att 247 RY 876 YPC 3.5If that s not beating him and badly i dont know what this is , they have zero reasons to draft a RB .

Numbers can be deceiving. I watched all the games last year, and DeAngelo got a lot of his yardage in the 4th quarter doing garbage time, or running out the clock. DeAngelo certainly had more burst than DeShaun, but DeShaun was a better blocker, and could move the pile better since he ran stronger. DeShaun's biggest problem was he fumbled too much. The OL didn't help things, and the quarterback carousel was a factor in the RB struggles too. Hopefully DeAngelo is improving on his blocking skills, and also learning not to dance so much behind the line. He dances back there, and then he loses yardage getting nailed in the backfield. I'm looking forward to seeing him get a chance to prove himself as a starter this year. The offensive line should be better this year, and with Jake behind center again, I expect the offense to be much improved, which will help whoever is in the RB position.

 

[Tau837]

I watched all the games last year, and DeAngelo got a lot of his yardage in the 4th quarter doing garbage time, or running out the clock

Decided to look this up (Deangelo Williams Splits).It is true that he had most of his work and success in the 4th quarter:

First 3 quarters: 88/345/1 rushing (3.9 ypc, long 39 yards), 13/103/0 receiving (7.9 ypr, long 30 yards), 1 fumble lost

4th quarter: 56/372/3 rushing (6.6 ypc, long 75 yards), 10/72/1 receiving (7.2 ypr, long 24 yards), 0 fumbles lost

(He had 20 first quarter carries, 34 second quarter carries, and 34 third quarter carries.)

How about garbage time? Well, what is that, exactly? I decided to look at splits when the Panthers were +/- 7 points vs. a greater difference in either direction:

Between 7 pts ahead and 7 pts behind: 88/396/3 rushing (4.5 ypc, long 35 yards), 10/71/0 receiving (7.1 ypr, long 18 yards), 1 fumble lost

More than 7 pts ahead or behind: 56/321/1 rushing (5.7 ypc, long 75 yards), 13/104/1 receiving (8 ypr, long 30 yards), 0 fumbles lost

This is more questionable. I mean, I would expect to see a difference in these splits favoring the game situations in which the RB's team is not within one score. The main point of interest here IMO is that Williams performed well when games were close.

 

[DonFue]

If the Panthers go into any draft (unless they have the first pick) saying "We are going to draft this position in the 1st round", then they're screwed. They should draft best available! DeAngelo hasn't been an every-down back because he doesn't block well. Toefield does block but isn't a special runner.