Deangelo Williams (1 Viewer)

[Jedimaster21]

Found this Q and A regarding DeAngelo's thoughts on being the primary RB.

http://www.charlotte.com/508/story/529864.html

Check this out, too.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Airu...mp;type=fantasy

 

[switz]

Found this Q and A regarding DeAngelo's thoughts on being the primary RB.

http://www.charlotte.com/508/story/529864.html

Check this out, too.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Airu...mp;type=fantasy

Funny, he doesn't seem certain at all that he's going to be the #1.

 

[BigJim®]

I think you are reading too much into that Switz. When a guy says he'll take 3 carries if it is best for the team or that he'll be the first to say the more productive guy should play, that's all team-guy PR cliche IMHO. I find it hard to knock a guy for being humble... not acting too presumptuous about his role in the offseason. It shows a level of maturity.

Good stuff JM21

 

[Jedimaster21]

Apparently the Panthers are having Mendenhall in for a workout. I'm not sure what to make of this. I just don't think it makes any sense at all to draft a RB in the first round with all of their other needs. They signed Toefield, who is an underrated player and a perfect complement to DeAngelo. All logic points to them giving DWill a shot this year. What is the deal?

Looking at this a little more closely...the Bears have the pick after the Panthers. Are they trying to entice the Bears to trade up one spot to secure the player they want?

 

[Chachi]

I could see Jonathan Stewart heading to Carolina, it would start out as a nice 1-2 punch with Stewart taking over full time duties by mid season and making DeAngelo an afterthought.

Stewart >>>>> Williams

 

[Jedimaster21]

I could see Jonathan Stewart heading to Carolina, it would start out as a nice 1-2 punch with Stewart taking over full time duties by mid season and making DeAngelo an afterthought.Stewart >>>>> Williams

Why would they waste a 1st round pick on a player and never give him a shot? It doesn't make any sense at all, and DeAngelo has looked very good with his limited opportunities. He is big enough to carry the load, and was a work horse in college. I just don't think there is any way they draft a back in the first.

 

[Chachi]

I could see Jonathan Stewart heading to Carolina, it would start out as a nice 1-2 punch with Stewart taking over full time duties by mid season and making DeAngelo an afterthought.

Stewart >>>>> Williams

Why would they waste a 1st round pick on a player and never give him a shot? It doesn't make any sense at all, and DeAngelo has looked very good with his limited opportunities. He is big enough to carry the load, and was a work horse in college. I just don't think there is any way they draft a back in the first.

Are you trying to be comical?

 

[SproutDaddy]

I could see Jonathan Stewart heading to Carolina, it would start out as a nice 1-2 punch with Stewart taking over full time duties by mid season and making DeAngelo an afterthought.Stewart >>>>> Williams

There is no logic behind your assumption.

 

[Burning Sensation]

I could see Jonathan Stewart heading to Carolina, it would start out as a nice 1-2 punch with Stewart taking over full time duties by mid season and making DeAngelo an afterthought.

Stewart >>>>> Williams

Why would they waste a 1st round pick on a player and never give him a shot? It doesn't make any sense at all, and DeAngelo has looked very good with his limited opportunities. He is big enough to carry the load, and was a work horse in college. I just don't think there is any way they draft a back in the first.

Are you trying to be comical?

Agreed, Williams is too small. He is 5'10" 217, while Tomlinson is 5'10" 220, clearly Williams is 3 lbs. too light to carry a full load.

 

[Chachi]

I could see Jonathan Stewart heading to Carolina, it would start out as a nice 1-2 punch with Stewart taking over full time duties by mid season and making DeAngelo an afterthought.

Stewart >>>>> Williams

Why would they waste a 1st round pick on a player and never give him a shot? It doesn't make any sense at all, and DeAngelo has looked very good with his limited opportunities. He is big enough to carry the load, and was a work horse in college. I just don't think there is any way they draft a back in the first.

Are you trying to be comical?

Agreed, Williams is too small. He is 5'10" 217, while Tomlinson is 5'10" 220, clearly Williams is 3 lbs. too light to carry a full load.

I have seen he's listed at 5'9 and that's even with high heels on.

 

[SproutDaddy]

I could see Jonathan Stewart heading to Carolina, it would start out as a nice 1-2 punch with Stewart taking over full time duties by mid season and making DeAngelo an afterthought.

Stewart >>>>> Williams

Why would they waste a 1st round pick on a player and never give him a shot? It doesn't make any sense at all, and DeAngelo has looked very good with his limited opportunities. He is big enough to carry the load, and was a work horse in college. I just don't think there is any way they draft a back in the first.

Are you trying to be comical?

Agreed, Williams is too small. He is 5'10" 217, while Tomlinson is 5'10" 220, clearly Williams is 3 lbs. too light to carry a full load.

I have seen he's listed at 5'9 and that's even with high heels on.

I'm 5'9", I have attended the University of Memphis for the past 3 years, and I've waited on the guy in a restaurant I worked at. He's clearly taller than me. Regardless, his height has hardly anything to do with your accusations. You should try backing up your material with feasible data.

 

[Chachi]

From Williams prospect profile on cbs pre-draft:

Williams is a short running back who lacks the bulk and size to break tackles consistently. He is much more of a dancer than an attack-style runner -- when there is no hole he does not attack the line of scrimmage and tends to go down too easily. He is quicker than fast and lacks the elite playing speed to outrun the defense for the long touchdown -- no top-level explosiveness. He is undersized as a pass blocker and does not consistently use good technique, which leads to his man pressuring the quarterback too often. This lack of size will hinder his durability in the NFL.

Williams is no doubt shorter than ideal at under 5-foot-9 and he looks smaller than his measured weight -- does not play like a running back over 200 pounds. Has shown the toughness to try and play through injuries, but he has gotten dinged up and suffered a bad knee injury toward the end of his junior season. When you see his injury history and lack of size, his NFL durability is definitely a question mark. Has very quick feet, which gives him a burst, but he lacks the top-end explosiveness to consistently get through NFL holes fast and to take long runs the distance. His playing strength and balance combine to help him keep his feet against hard hits, but he does not have the strength to consistently break tackles and gain yards after contact in the NFL.

We can agree to disagree, Williams has not been asked to shoulder the load yet in the NFL so we do not know if he can do it. He is listed at 5'9" and we all know he is 5'8 3/4" or at least we all knew that at the 2006 NFL draft. I don't think he can take a full load, just one mans opinion.

 

[Chachi]

I could see Jonathan Stewart heading to Carolina, it would start out as a nice 1-2 punch with Stewart taking over full time duties by mid season and making DeAngelo an afterthought.

Stewart >>>>> Williams

Why would they waste a 1st round pick on a player and never give him a shot? It doesn't make any sense at all, and DeAngelo has looked very good with his limited opportunities. He is big enough to carry the load, and was a work horse in college. I just don't think there is any way they draft a back in the first.

Are you trying to be comical?

Agreed, Williams is too small. He is 5'10" 217, while Tomlinson is 5'10" 220, clearly Williams is 3 lbs. too light to carry a full load.

I have seen he's listed at 5'9 and that's even with high heels on.

I'm 5'9", I have attended the University of Memphis for the past 3 years, and I've waited on the guy in a restaurant I worked at. He's clearly taller than me. Regardless, his height has hardly anything to do with your accusations. You should try backing up your material with feasible data.

Could you fill me in on what exactly i have ACCUSED DeAngelo of being? Did I accuse him of being short for a RB? You have some problems my man.

 

[trader jake]

DeAngelo's owners should have some concerns...the biggest one being his comparisons to this.

 

[Chachi]

DeAngelo's owners should have some concerns...the biggest one being his comparisons to this.

Fixed

 

[Jedimaster21]

I could see Jonathan Stewart heading to Carolina, it would start out as a nice 1-2 punch with Stewart taking over full time duties by mid season and making DeAngelo an afterthought.

Stewart >>>>> Williams

Why would they waste a 1st round pick on a player and never give him a shot? It doesn't make any sense at all, and DeAngelo has looked very good with his limited opportunities. He is big enough to carry the load, and was a work horse in college. I just don't think there is any way they draft a back in the first.

Are you trying to be comical?

Agreed, Williams is too small. He is 5'10" 217, while Tomlinson is 5'10" 220, clearly Williams is 3 lbs. too light to carry a full load.

I have seen he's listed at 5'9 and that's even with high heels on.

His height has no impact on how he plays the game. He is short and stocky, plus very elusive and fast. I agree that there are questions about whether he can carry the load, but saying he is too small to be a full time player is just wrong.

 

[msommer]

I could see Jonathan Stewart heading to Carolina, it would start out as a nice 1-2 punch with Stewart taking over full time duties by mid season and making DeAngelo an afterthought.Stewart >>>>> Williams

Why would they waste a 1st round pick on a player and never give him a shot? It doesn't make any sense at all, and DeAngelo has looked very good with his limited opportunities. He is big enough to carry the load, and was a work horse in college. I just don't think there is any way they draft a back in the first.

Another issue even if they do draft a RB high is how many times HC has started a talented rookie over a vet in CAR? Rarely IIRC

 

[BigJim®]

I could see Jonathan Stewart heading to Carolina, it would start out as a nice 1-2 punch with Stewart taking over full time duties by mid season and making DeAngelo an afterthought.Stewart >>>>> Williams

I can't think of anything that would make Stewart more valueless than having him drafted by a team with a track record of Carolina. By this I mean a team with a penchant to sit young/hopeful RBs behind vets even long after performance differential would tell you it makes no sense to do that, and then have his replacement drafted before he gets an opportunity.

 

[travdogg]

I could see Jonathan Stewart heading to Carolina, it would start out as a nice 1-2 punch with Stewart taking over full time duties by mid season and making DeAngelo an afterthought.Stewart >>>>> Williams

Stewart would be a nice pick...in ROUND 2. If they took him at the 13th pick that be both a reach and a reach at a non-need position.More likely they take a back in round 4 or 5.

 

[gianmarco]

I could see Jonathan Stewart heading to Carolina, it would start out as a nice 1-2 punch with Stewart taking over full time duties by mid season and making DeAngelo an afterthought.Stewart >>>>> Williams

I can't think of anything that would make Stewart more valueless than having him drafted by a team with a track record of Carolina. By this I mean a team with a penchant to sit young/hopeful RBs behind vets even long after performance differential would tell you it makes no sense to do that, and then have his replacement drafted before he gets an opportunity.

Unfortunately for Carolina, that is so true. On top of having an awful running O-Line, they have botched the management of the RB situation for a long time now.

 

[Interseptopus]

I could see Jonathan Stewart heading to Carolina, it would start out as a nice 1-2 punch with Stewart taking over full time duties by mid season and making DeAngelo an afterthought.Stewart >>>>> Williams

I can't think of anything that would make Stewart more valueless than having him drafted by a team with a track record of Carolina. By this I mean a team with a penchant to sit young/hopeful RBs behind vets even long after performance differential would tell you it makes no sense to do that, and then have his replacement drafted before he gets an opportunity.

Unfortunately for Carolina, that is so true. On top of having an awful running O-Line, they have botched the management of the RB situation for a long time now.

What about Mendenhall???? Reminds me kind of like Stephen Davis, I'm sure CAR remembers/misses the days of Davis...

 

[Bob Magaw]

mendenhall looks like a stud, but without an OL, he will have nowhere to run...

they need help on both lines...

a tackle like williams or otah (maybe even brandon anderson, who is consensus best guard in draft, but thought to have athleticism & versatility to play tackle... that kind of versatility is coveted... casserly on path to the draft was saying that he could go anywhere from 10-20, with a shot to crack the top 10... i doubt that, but casserly was saying he might be second best tackle in draft, surprisingly higher than clady, who i think is consensus second best tackle in draft)...

 

[FavreCo]

I could see Jonathan Stewart heading to Carolina, it would start out as a nice 1-2 punch with Stewart taking over full time duties by mid season and making DeAngelo an afterthought.Stewart >>>>> Williams

Why would they waste a 1st round pick on a player and never give him a shot? It doesn't make any sense at all, and DeAngelo has looked very good with his limited opportunities. He is big enough to carry the load, and was a work horse in college. I just don't think there is any way they draft a back in the first.

Agreed except, they signed David Carr. That itself tells you they are pretty stupid.

 

[cutler6]

Panthers attend private workout by Mendenhall

Carolina Panthers officials held a private workout on campus today with Illinois running back Rashard Mendenhall. Mendenhall is rated the No. 2 back available in the draft and could be a good fit in the Panthers' offense with his size (5-10, 225 pounds), power and breakaway explosiveness. The Panthers have the 13th pick in the first round, and Mendenhall is projected to go somewhere been picks 7 and 15. It is believed that Carolina sent its top officials to the workout, including GM Marty Hurney and head coach John Fox.

This has been a running back-intensive week for the Panthers' pre-draft scouting process. Hurney attended the Arkansas pro day workout on Tuesday, where he got to watch top-rated back Darren McFadden and Felix Jones, who's projected as a late first- or early second-round pick. While there has been heavy speculation that the Panthers are targeting an offensive tackle or defensive end in the draft, there's reason to believe they have legitimate interest in picking one of the top running backs. Carolina needs a big back to serve as a compliment to DeAngelo Williams in the running game to help balance the offense to take pressure off of quarterback Jake Delhomme and receiver Steve Smith. Mendenhall and Oregon's Jonathan Stewart (5-10, 235 pounds) are the top two first-round prospects that fit the big-back description. Stewart's draft stock has slipped some because he recently underwent toe surgery and might not be available to practice until training camp, or even later. Mendenhall was named the Big Ten Conference offensive player of the year last season. He rushed for 1,681 yards and on 262 carries (6.4-yard average). He ran for 17 touchdowns and caught two TD passes.

Because he didn't become a regular starter until his junior season in 2007, Mendenhall enters the NFL with little wear and tear on his body. He had 388 rushes at Illinois. Even though he's one of the bigger backs in the draft, Mendenhall ran the 40-yard dash in a swift 4.45 seconds at the NFL scouting combine. He had 26 repetitions in the 225-pound bench press -- double the 13 that McFadden managed at his pro day workout this week. Mendenhall's short shuttle time of 4.18 was the best among backs who performed the drill at the combine.

http://blogs.charlotte.com/panthers/2008/0...ers-attend.html

 

[travdogg]

Sounds like they are trying to get Chicago or Detroit to trade up.

 

[Interseptopus]

Sounds like they are trying to get Chicago or Detroit to trade up.

Why would they have any concern over CHI or DET? If this was MIN or GB then you'd have a point. CAR has nothing to worry about for either of those teams this seasonSounds to me more like they've got legitimate interest in Mendenhall. Like I said, Stephen Davis-like...

 

[DarabZarrabi]

Sounds like they are trying to get Chicago or Detroit to trade up.

Why would they have any concern over CHI or DET? If this was MIN or GB then you'd have a point. CAR has nothing to worry about for either of those teams this seasonSounds to me more like they've got legitimate interest in Mendenhall. Like I said, Stephen Davis-like...

Because if Chicago or Detroit are worried the Panthers are going to take him they may trade with the Panthers so that they can grab Mendenhall...its a commonly employed method by a lot of teams, and I have a feeling that is what theyre doing. Even if they NEEDED a rb they have too many other holes in their roster and they would be better served taking a rb late...this is a very deep rb class

 

[Interseptopus]

Sounds like they are trying to get Chicago or Detroit to trade up.

Why would they have any concern over CHI or DET? If this was MIN or GB then you'd have a point. CAR has nothing to worry about for either of those teams this seasonSounds to me more like they've got legitimate interest in Mendenhall. Like I said, Stephen Davis-like...

Because if Chicago or Detroit are worried the Panthers are going to take him they may trade with the Panthers so that they can grab Mendenhall...its a commonly employed method by a lot of teams, and I have a feeling that is what theyre doing. Even if they NEEDED a rb they have too many other holes in their roster and they would be better served taking a rb late...this is a very deep rb class

Well, never thought of it that way. I could see that happening, but at the same time Mendenhall and Williams would be scarier than Mendenhall/Bell... CAR should seriously consider taking him unless they get a really really good offer... and with the holes DET and CHI have, I doubt they'd give up a lot for a RB now. But we'll see!Sorry- real tired, just woke up from a nap, didn't really think that one through clearly

 

[relic]

Well Shelton was a major reach where they took him(according to the people at the draft) and then he suffered a major injury and never seemed to recover. DeAngelo has played pretty well when given the chance and I think could easily be a 1000+ rusher if he gets 200some carries.

Wrong. I just watched my recording of the 2005 draft and Kiper, Mortenson, Berman, and Torry Holt had nothing but good things to say about the pick. Kiper said: " he is one of the better athletes at the running back position."

Don't mean to hijack but damnyou tape the drafts and save them for years

 

[fun-b]

DeJake Delhomme, LaSteve Smith, DeAngelo Williams. Solid.

 

[doubletrouble]

Sounds like they are trying to get Chicago or Detroit to trade up.

They will be getting OL w/ their 1st pick and in the 2nd or 3rd they will get a rb

 

[doubletrouble]

Why would they have any concern over CHI or DET? If this was MIN or GB then you'd have a point. CAR has nothing to worry about for either of those teams this season

B/C Chi and Det need a rb...??

 

[Interseptopus]

Why would they have any concern over CHI or DET? If this was MIN or GB then you'd have a point. CAR has nothing to worry about for either of those teams this seasonB/C Chi and Det need a rb...??

Next time read on...I said:

Sounds like they are trying to get Chicago or Detroit to trade up.

Why would they have any concern over CHI or DET? If this was MIN or GB then you'd have a point. CAR has nothing to worry about for either of those teams this seasonSounds to me more like they've got legitimate interest in Mendenhall. Like I said, Stephen Davis-like...

Because if Chicago or Detroit are worried the Panthers are going to take him they may trade with the Panthers so that they can grab Mendenhall...its a commonly employed method by a lot of teams, and I have a feeling that is what theyre doing. Even if they NEEDED a rb they have too many other holes in their roster and they would be better served taking a rb late...this is a very deep rb class

Well, never thought of it that way. I could see that happening, but at the same time Mendenhall and Williams would be scarier than Mendenhall/Bell... CAR should seriously consider taking him unless they get a really really good offer... and with the holes DET and CHI have, I doubt they'd give up a lot for a RB now. But we'll see!Sorry- real tired, just woke up from a nap, didn't really think that one through clearly

The smart thing for them to do is like you said, OL would be the smart pick round 1

 

[ROCKET]

mendenhall looks like a stud, but without an OL, he will have nowhere to run...

they need help on both lines...

a tackle like williams or otah (maybe even brandon anderson, who is consensus best guard in draft, but thought to have athleticism & versatility to play tackle... that kind of versatility is coveted... casserly on path to the draft was saying that he could go anywhere from 10-20, with a shot to crack the top 10... i doubt that, but casserly was saying he might be second best tackle in draft, surprisingly higher than clady, who i think is consensus second best tackle in draft)...

It's Albert not Anderson.

 

[JPeso]

DeJake Delhomme, LaSteve Smith, DeAngelo Williams. Solid.

Thanks for sharing.

 

[Ripleys]

DeJake Delhomme, LaSteve Smith, DeAngelo Williams. Solid.

DaTruth!

 

[JPeso]

Why would they have any concern over CHI or DET? If this was MIN or GB then you'd have a point. CAR has nothing to worry about for either of those teams this season

Next time read on...I said:

Sounds like they are trying to get Chicago or Detroit to trade up.

Why would they have any concern over CHI or DET? If this was MIN or GB then you'd have a point. CAR has nothing to worry about for either of those teams this seasonSounds to me more like they've got legitimate interest in Mendenhall. Like I said, Stephen Davis-like...

Because if Chicago or Detroit are worried the Panthers are going to take him they may trade with the Panthers so that they can grab Mendenhall...its a commonly employed method by a lot of teams, and I have a feeling that is what theyre doing. Even if they NEEDED a rb they have too many other holes in their roster and they would be better served taking a rb late...this is a very deep rb class

Well, never thought of it that way. I could see that happening, but at the same time Mendenhall and Williams would be scarier than Mendenhall/Bell... CAR should seriously consider taking him unless they get a really really good offer... and with the holes DET and CHI have, I doubt they'd give up a lot for a RB now. But we'll see!

The smart thing for them to do is like you said, OL would be the smart pick round 1

Hopefully in working Mendenhall out, teams directly behind him will want to move up, and Carolina still gets the much needed OL in the 1st. Here's to hoping Rice, Smith, or Forte are wearing a Panther uniform week 1.

 

[Chachi]

I could see Jonathan Stewart heading to Carolina, it would start out as a nice 1-2 punch with Stewart taking over full time duties by mid season and making DeAngelo an afterthought.

Stewart >>>>> Williams

Why would they waste a 1st round pick on a player and never give him a shot? It doesn't make any sense at all, and DeAngelo has looked very good with his limited opportunities. He is big enough to carry the load, and was a work horse in college. I just don't think there is any way they draft a back in the first.

Are you trying to be comical?

Agreed, Williams is too small. He is 5'10" 217, while Tomlinson is 5'10" 220, clearly Williams is 3 lbs. too light to carry a full load.

I have seen he's listed at 5'9 and that's even with high heels on.

I'm 5'9", I have attended the University of Memphis for the past 3 years, and I've waited on the guy in a restaurant I worked at. He's clearly taller than me. Regardless, his height has hardly anything to do with your accusations. You should try backing up your material with feasible data.

 

[Chachi]

I could see Jonathan Stewart heading to Carolina, it would start out as a nice 1-2 punch with Stewart taking over full time duties by mid season and making DeAngelo an afterthought.Stewart >>>>> Williams

Why would they waste a 1st round pick on a player and never give him a shot? It doesn't make any sense at all, and DeAngelo has looked very good with his limited opportunities. He is big enough to carry the load, and was a work horse in college. I just don't think there is any way they draft a back in the first.

 

[a_rackowski]

I am shocked by that pick.

 

[Summer Wheat]

I am shocked by that pick.

D-Willy will be the third down RB.