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Del Rio was right about Garrard and Leftwich. (1 Viewer)

Based on what? His 1 TD, 2 INT sub 50% completion game where if he didn't run (like I knew he was going to) on that play, they lose? Pittsburgh blew it. Quinn Gray would have done the same as this bum if not better. His passing abiltiy is far greater.
Come on. I'll agree that the throwing stats don't support Gerrard having a great game, but that run(which you knew about) won the game for them.
 
You wish. 9-21 with 2 INT's and a win not becasue of Garrabage but in spite of the suckage of Garrabage.
It's pretty funny that you chose to respond after he has his first sub-par game this year. Where were your stellar reponses to this earlier?
The guy is a tool. I think he might be in junior high, or at least most of his comments are on that level.
 
Excuse me? I've said all along that this guy is a bum. Can Jacksonville win a Super Bowl becasue of Garrabage's play at QB. The answer is no. Can he ride defense to one ala Trent Dilfer, sure he can.

 
The guy is a tool. I think he might be in junior high, or at least most of his comments are on that level.
No doubt I've won more games in 1 fantasy league than you could if you were in 50 per year. Let me add that I have gone 14 straight years in a dynasty league with QB's that scored 23+ TD's. How is that? Because I know my QB's, win in FF because of it and I would never have this bum as a QB on my team.
 
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The guy is a tool. I think he might be in junior high, or at least most of his comments are on that level.
No doubt I've won more games in 1 fantasy league than you could if you were in 50 per year. Let me add that I have gone 14 straight years in a dynasty league with QB's that scored 23+ TD's. How is that? Because I know my QB's, win in FF because of it and I would never have this bum as a QB on my team.
Del Rio, your job is at stake because you've got some competition from this here keyboard jockey. :hophead:
 
The guy is a tool. I think he might be in junior high, or at least most of his comments are on that level.
No doubt I've won more games in 1 fantasy league than you could if you were in 50 per year. Let me add that I have gone 14 straight years in a dynasty league with QB's that scored 23+ TD's. How is that? Because I know my QB's, win in FF because of it and I would never have this bum as a QB on my team.
:hophead:
 
The guy is a tool. I think he might be in junior high, or at least most of his comments are on that level.
No doubt I've won more games in 1 fantasy league than you could if you were in 50 per year. Let me add that I have gone 14 straight years in a dynasty league with QB's that scored 23+ TD's. How is that? Because I know my QB's, win in FF because of it and I would never have this bum as a QB on my team.
Let me guess. Your dad can beat up omally's dad, too?
 
Let me add that I have gone 14 straight years in a dynasty league with QB's that scored 23+ TD's. How is that?
Wow, so you had a top 10 QB every year in the last 14 years. Congrats! Why would you even remember that?
Because I know my QB's, win in FF because of it and I would never have this bum as a QB on my team.
Maybe if the NFL only had 10 teams you could be a GM!
 
The guy is a tool. I think he might be in junior high, or at least most of his comments are on that level.
No doubt I've won more games in 1 fantasy league than you could if you were in 50 per year. Let me add that I have gone 14 straight years in a dynasty league with QB's that scored 23+ TD's. How is that? Because I know my QB's, win in FF because of it and I would never have this bum as a QB on my team.
I believe you when you say you've been playing FF from the day you were born. :confused:
 
The guy is a tool. I think he might be in junior high, or at least most of his comments are on that level.
No doubt I've won more games in 1 fantasy league than you could if you were in 50 per year. Let me add that I have gone 14 straight years in a dynasty league with QB's that scored 23+ TD's. How is that? Because I know my QB's, win in FF because of it and I would never have this bum as a QB on my team.
:confused: Every single guy who drafted Peyton Manning (not a lot to think about that year) in a dynasty league has had 26+ TDs the past 10 years. Brady owners have 23+ TDs the past 6 years as well. So, congratulations for having drafted Brett Favre and the luck to have the #1 pick in 1998 to get Manning.I am the only person in my leagues 10+ year history to have a 50TD QB. Have you ever had one?
 
So many times coachs are second guessed for bad decisions.I remember Jack Del Rio taking quite a bit of heat for getting rid of Lefty and going with Garrard. Saying that in his heart he knew it was the right decision.DelRio looks like a guru.
How about now?
 
JaxBill said:
So many times coachs are second guessed for bad decisions.I remember Jack Del Rio taking quite a bit of heat for getting rid of Lefty and going with Garrard. Saying that in his heart he knew it was the right decision.DelRio looks like a guru.
How about now?
With all of the offensive line losses, Leftwich wouldn't have survived September.
:lmao: Byron would have been 6 feet under by now.
 
JaxBill said:
So many times coachs are second guessed for bad decisions.I remember Jack Del Rio taking quite a bit of heat for getting rid of Lefty and going with Garrard. Saying that in his heart he knew it was the right decision.DelRio looks like a guru.
How about now?
With all of the offensive line losses, Leftwich wouldn't have survived September.
I respect your opinion a lot Bill, but that's a crutch and an easy out. The problems the Jags and Garrard have had this season go way beyond O-line. Perhaps Leftwich would have done better, perhaps not. We'll never know. But every team in the NFL has injuries, the good teams and good QBs find ways to win in spite of them more often than not. The Jags and David have not done that. Interior O-linemen are the easiest position group to replace in the NFL and even extreme losses like the Jags suffered should not have derailed what many considered a Super Bowl contending team. Garrard has stunk this season, and while O line injury issues is certainly a factor it is by no means an excuse. He has reverted back to what he was before the 2007 season. A decent game manager QB that makes some poor choices and ends up with a QB rating around 80. That's what be been his whole career outside of 2007 and I suspect it's likely 2007 proves the exception, not the new rule. Does that mean Leftwich is better? Nope, but it doesn't mean he worse either.A quick stat that I found interesting. In 2008 Garrard has zero passes 40+ yards with 318 attempts. Leftwich has 1 with 24 attempts. And Pitts O line isn't in much better shape than the Jags.
 
So many times coachs are second guessed for bad decisions.I remember Jack Del Rio taking quite a bit of heat for getting rid of Lefty and going with Garrard. Saying that in his heart he knew it was the right decision.DelRio looks like a guru.
How about now?
Yes, can we get some Garrabage fans in here to defend his total 100% suckage. I told you this guy sucks. 1 fluke season with a stellar running game. Once the ball had to be placed in his hands to win the game, well you see it. Who was right? Me, that's who.
 
I always scratched my head at Lefty being let go.

Long windup and all - he can whistle that thing in their w/ accuracy and Jax had a pretty average WR corp. He's also clearly a team leader. We are thrilled to have him as a backup and I have no idea why he's not a starter somewhere.

Nothing against Garrard but he looks more like a poor mans Vick.

The QB's job is to lead the offense and throw the ball. If he's making mistakes because he's under too much pressure or playing from behind all the time or has WR's who stink - fix those problems.

A good example of this would be to compare BigBen/Rivers/Eli. All three are very good QB's - in fact it's quite hard to pick from the three which one is 'better' - but they have all had their share of playing poorly when the rest of their O has issues.

 
So many times coachs are second guessed for bad decisions.

I remember Jack Del Rio taking quite a bit of heat for getting rid of Lefty and going with Garrard. Saying that in his heart he knew it was the right decision.

DelRio looks like a guru.
How about now?
Yes, can we get some Garrabage fans in here to defend his total 100% suckage. I told you this guy sucks. 1 fluke season with a stellar running game. Once the ball had to be placed in his hands to win the game, well you see it. Who was right? Me, that's who.
Did you watch the game, or just looking at stats? Because if you did watch it, you'd see that he had an easy touchdown dropped by Marcedes Lewis, had another perfectly-thrown potential touchdown bounce off Mike Walker's hands right to the defender at the 3 yard line for a pick, and his last interception was a heave down the sideline at desperation time.He also had a ton of yardage called back due to holding penalties by the o-line. Garrard wasn't the reason they lost today -- not by a longshot.

 
Did you watch the game, or just looking at stats? Because if you did watch it, you'd see that he had an easy touchdown dropped by Marcedes Lewis, had another perfectly-thrown potential touchdown bounce off Mike Walker's hands right to the defender at the 3 yard line for a pick, and his last interception was a heave down the sideline at desperation time.
Yes. David Garrard is the only quarterback in the history of the NFL to have his receiver drop a certain TD pass. It only happens to him.
 
Did you watch the game, or just looking at stats? Because if you did watch it, you'd see that he had an easy touchdown dropped by Marcedes Lewis, had another perfectly-thrown potential touchdown bounce off Mike Walker's hands right to the defender at the 3 yard line for a pick, and his last interception was a heave down the sideline at desperation time.
Yes. David Garrard is the only quarterback in the history of the NFL to have his receiver drop a certain TD pass. It only happens to him.
Give it a break , jax has bigger problems then their qb play .

 
Weird bump

It'd be better if we bumped all the Garrard is great threads from this summer. IIRC He was better than Brady in some people's opinions.

I'll give him some mulligans for losing the interior line as that's a big problem but, as I said all summer, he is not great. Good QB? Very Good? maybe but he's not elite.

Regardless of excuses/reasons-the OL, 8 TDs thru 10 or 11 games is crazy low.

6 INTs is nearly 1:1 ratio

He's on pace for most yards ever but also most INTs ever and lowest in most every yards per type passing stat.

The great one's find a way. He hasn't. A good QB is nothing to sneeze at so, let's just stop calling this guy great

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GarrDa00.htm

Why do the Jaguars have arguably the most talented or most athletic WR corps yet one of the least productive every year? Can that all be blamed on a run, run, run Offense?

Even this last offseason they added the guy that couldn't follow in Moss' footsteps and Jerry (Gruden loves me) Porter and a 3rd round pick out for 07 that they claimed was special. Why does WR talent more often than not, not equal production in Jax?

Do they have 4 former first rounders?

 
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Did you watch the game, or just looking at stats? Because if you did watch it, you'd see that he had an easy touchdown dropped by Marcedes Lewis, had another perfectly-thrown potential touchdown bounce off Mike Walker's hands right to the defender at the 3 yard line for a pick, and his last interception was a heave down the sideline at desperation time.
Yes. David Garrard is the only quarterback in the history of the NFL to have his receiver drop a certain TD pass. It only happens to him.
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize I said that.And maybe it wouldn't be a big deal if they'd also make a play or two every once in awhile on his behalf. He might be the only QB in the league whose receivers drop more than they catch AND fail to do anything extraordinary to make up for it. Does TO drop balls? Does Moss? Yes, but they also make plays. Putting aside legendary players for a moment, does Vincent Jackson drop passes? Does Hines Ward? Yes, but they also make plays.

Regarding Jacksonville...does Jerry Porter drop balls? Does Troy Williamson? Does Matt Jones? Does Mike Walker? Do ALL of them? Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes. Do any of them make plays? :hophead:

 
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Michael Brown said:
Did you watch the game, or just looking at stats? Because if you did watch it, you'd see that he had an easy touchdown dropped by Marcedes Lewis, had another perfectly-thrown potential touchdown bounce off Mike Walker's hands right to the defender at the 3 yard line for a pick, and his last interception was a heave down the sideline at desperation time.
Yes. David Garrard is the only quarterback in the history of the NFL to have his receiver drop a certain TD pass. It only happens to him.
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize I said that.And maybe it wouldn't be a big deal if they'd also make a play or two every once in awhile on his behalf. He might be the only QB in the league whose receivers drop more than they catch AND fail to do anything extraordinary to make up for it. Does TO drop balls? Does Moss? Yes, but they also make plays. Putting aside legendary players for a moment, does Vincent Jackson drop passes? Does Hines Ward? Yes, but they also make plays.

Regarding Jacksonville...does Jerry Porter drop balls? Does Troy Williamson? Does Matt Jones? Does Mike Walker? Do ALL of them? Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes. Do any of them make plays? :unsure:
Yeah. Well there once was a man named vick who had a bunch of so called stone handed wrs. Then the Falcons finally got lucky and the bum was removed. You know what happened? All of a sudden, the WR's developed hands. Instant Roddy White 1000 yard season. Amazing huh? More like, the passes were on the money instead of who knows where. It is easier to catch the ball when it is where it is supposed to be. Then they added a real NFL QB in Matt Ryan. Look at them go now.Yeah, keep blaming the WRs.

 

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