DeMarco Murray, RB, Dallas Cowboys (1 Viewer)

[BigSteelThrill]

The Dallas Cowboys are now 6-0 when RB DeMarco Murray gets at least 20 carries.

Isn't that stat pretty irrelevant at this point?

Is a fun/cool stat not allowed around here? Anyway, it certainly has to be better then the Cowboys being 0-6 when he has 20+ carries.

 

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[Marauder]

The Dallas Cowboys are now 6-0 when RB DeMarco Murray gets at least 20 carries.

Isn't that stat pretty irrelevant at this point?

Is a fun/cool stat not allowed around here? Anyway, it certainly has to be better then the Cowboys being 0-6 when he has 20+ carries.

Yeah, but just make sure you don't confuse cause with effect. They didn't win those 6 games because he got 20+ carries. He got 20+ carries in those 6 games because the team was protecting a lead. Most good starting RB's will have similar winning records when they get 20+ carries.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Shocking that Felix really never even touched the ball. Murray is set to have 300 carries it would seem.

the felix train has left the station.

 

[Shutout]

Everything I admire and shudder at regarding DeMarco was on display last night.

He looked good late and he ran with a type of aggressiveness that its been a long time since I've seen a guy on a good team do late in a game. I'm sure there are others more recent but it kind of took me back to some late games when Curtis Martin or Jamal Lewis would just bludgen guys at the end of a game. That's the good side.

The bad side is he still runs SO upright and he doesn't laterally move like some of the guys that you like to see just shift and keep going instead of plowing into someone. I just can't help but think its such a small chance for him to go 16 games (or maybe even 12-13). Players are never fresher/healthier than Week 1 and he can do those things now but these things take their toll and the way he runs opens him up for some shoulder, high thigh, knee type of hits. I think we saw last year that he clearly was wearing down and becoming less effective when the cummulation of games started stacking up. By the time he got into that 5th game last year, he was average those last 3-4 games. My concern is that this might resurface.

Overall, I guess he's a lot like DMAC. Not saying he is that player but the scenario is similar: If you have him, you know he's going to be utilized and likely effective WHEN HE IS AVAILABLE. So, use him when you have him and don't be surprised if he misses time during the year.

 

[TheNext0]

The Dallas Cowboys are now 6-0 when RB DeMarco Murray gets at least 20 carries.

Isn't that stat pretty irrelevant at this point?

Is a fun/cool stat not allowed around here? Anyway, it certainly has to be better then the Cowboys being 0-6 when he has 20+ carries.

Yeah, but just make sure you don't confuse cause with effect. They didn't win those 6 games because he got 20+ carries. He got 20+ carries in those 6 games because the team was protecting a lead. Most good starting RB's will have similar winning records when they get 20+ carries.

Hmmm, I count 2 of those 6 games where the Cowboys were losing in the 4th quarter (week 11 and 12 last year) and 2 games where it was a 1 TD game going into the 4th quarter. Not sure I buy into your generalization there. Not that I'm arguing that 20 touches for Murray is an instant win Some things I noticed last night... Felix Jones continues to drop passes (as he did in the preseason) when he's in there. He doesn't even seem to be taking advantage of his small 3rd down role. Murray ran hard all night, took what was given at times, and made things happen many other times. The O-line wasn't good, but wasn't as awful as I expected.

 

[Dought Man]

The way he always looks to initiate contact at the end of runs reminds me of Clinton Portis. Fun to watch, but hard on the body...

 

[ActionHero]

Loved what I saw from him last night. My only complaint is on the 48 yard run, it looked like he had a chance to score if he kept on going down the sideline. Perhaps it was the camera angle, but I was confused why he went left into the defenders.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Neither team had success early in the game but both of their #1 RBs got untracked after halftime.

For Murray it seems that Garrett did not scheme anything for the RBs in the passing game other than some slow developing screens and use as check-downs.

The screens were smoked out by the Giants many times and Romo only threw to both Murray and Felix when he was under duress so both had high heat and Felix dropped both of his reception attempts.

Also the Dallas offensive line looked shaky but they eventually got into a rythmn later in the game when the Nascar package got put into moth balls as the Boys had a lead to bleed and started to gash them off the left side.

Garrett still is pass-happy with his calls and it worked last night so if DeMarco doesn't have much production at the half we might see games like last night where they set-up some of those draws when they draw-up aggressive DEs like JPP who got beat bad a few times.

I don't see how that line is going to force its will on anyone but they certainly can wear down a good D like the G-Men.

I have held firmly by Murray the entire time and still feel he's a top-five fantasy RB and his first game hasn't swayed me from that stance. He still has room to get more work in the passing game and even though the line isn't good it can do the job and they rarely went with a lead FB and I think Laurence Vickers is one of the best lead blockers in the game today.

The rushing attack was good last night for Dallas and it really wasn't highlighted and the RBs weren't really schemed into the passing game and the Boys know that the line can do the job so I think Garrett will start to work the rushing game into the goal line packages more and all of those things bode well for DeMarco Murray.

 

[Shutout]

Neither team had success early in the game but both of their #1 RBs got untracked after halftime.For Murray it seems that Garrett did not scheme anything for the RBs in the passing game other than some slow developing screens and use as check-downs.The screens were smoked out by the Giants many times and Romo only threw to both Murray and Felix when he was under duress so both had high heat and Felix dropped both of his reception attempts. Also the Dallas offensive line looked shaky but they eventually got into a rythmn later in the game when the Nascar package got put into moth balls as the Boys had a lead to bleed and started to gash them off the left side.Garrett still is pass-happy with his calls and it worked last night so if DeMarco doesn't have much production at the half we might see games like last night where they set-up some of those draws when they draw-up aggressive DEs like JPP who got beat bad a few times.I don't see how that line is going to force its will on anyone but they certainly can wear down a good D like the G-Men.I have held firmly by Murray the entire time and still feel he's a top-five fantasy RB and his first game hasn't swayed me from that stance. He still has room to get more work in the passing game and even though the line isn't good it can do the job and they rarely went with a lead FB and I think Laurence Vickers is one of the best lead blockers in the game today.The rushing attack was good last night for Dallas and it really wasn't highlighted and the RBs weren't really schemed into the passing game and the Boys know that the line can do the job so I think Garrett will start to work the rushing game into the goal line packages more and all of those things bode well for DeMarco Murray.

They appear to me to still be more inclined to pass in the red zone than run. Agree? Disagree? What did you see in what they were doing down near the GL?

 

[mbuehner]

"For Murray it seems that Garrett did not scheme anything for the RBs in the passing game other than some slow developing screens and use as check-downs"

I think that was true in the first half and the Cowboys struggled for it. Their offense blew up when Romo started finding Ogletree in favorable matchups but there were also several quick swing passes out to the RBs that made the Giants D respond even if they didnt do much damage at the time. Had they decided to take away Ogletree, Murray would have had huge amounts of space to catch and run. They picked their poison and left Ogletree one on one with safeties and nickles. Point being, the Cowboys made some great adjustments and found the weak point- that weak point could well have been leaving the RBs with more space, so thats a good sign for potential going forward. Nobody is going to be eager to let that 3rd WR torch them after last night. Rising tide lifts all ships.

 

[None_More_Black]

Everything I admire and shudder at regarding DeMarco was on display last night.He looked good late and he ran with a type of aggressiveness that its been a long time since I've seen a guy on a good team do late in a game. I'm sure there are others more recent but it kind of took me back to some late games when Curtis Martin or Jamal Lewis would just bludgen guys at the end of a game. That's the good side.The bad side is he still runs SO upright and he doesn't laterally move like some of the guys that you like to see just shift and keep going instead of plowing into someone. I just can't help but think its such a small chance for him to go 16 games (or maybe even 12-13). Players are never fresher/healthier than Week 1 and he can do those things now but these things take their toll and the way he runs opens him up for some shoulder, high thigh, knee type of hits. I think we saw last year that he clearly was wearing down and becoming less effective when the cummulation of games started stacking up. By the time he got into that 5th game last year, he was average those last 3-4 games. My concern is that this might resurface.Overall, I guess he's a lot like DMAC. Not saying he is that player but the scenario is similar: If you have him, you know he's going to be utilized and likely effective WHEN HE IS AVAILABLE. So, use him when you have him and don't be surprised if he misses time during the year.

I like Demarco but he has below average lateral quickness. He ran a 4.3 and was the all time yardage leader(all purpose) at OK yet was drafted in the third round. Good player but he is not the next adp.

 

[Dought Man]

Looks like Murray is going to get a load this year. Felix came in for 4 snaps? Is that right? On one screen pass attempt, it looked like Jones was supposed to keep going, but he stopped and Romo looked highly annoyed on the miscommunication. What a flame out that kid was. So much speed, no heart.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

They appear to me to still be more inclined to pass in the red zone than run. Agree? Disagree? What did you see in what they were doing down near the GL?

Its the first game.The O-line had an injury.Romo was facing a secondary that was down to the fourth (?) cornerback and his new-found WR was eating him alive so he was checking-down like mad from what appeared to be rush calls and he was hitting on them so you can't blame him at all even though he was throwing into double coverage, but hey, it worked.And the Boys scored TDs from the,10, 40, and 34, yard lines. They didn't score from inside the ten and they still have issues with that. They simply cannot do what they did last year and throw down near the goal 83% of the time. The field is shortened and if they keep throwing near the goal by that ridiculously high margin then even bad NFL defenses can beat em. The first game was called a certain way due to how the game developed. I think the RBs will be schemed more into the passing attack and by that I mean that they will be the primary receiver and I think both Felix and DeMarco have the speed and athleticism to be spit wide, they don't always have to be lined up in the backfield and chip before going out. Also the Boys went four-wides with empty sets a few times and that tips off the D so I think splitting a RB wide would force a mismatch of a slow LBer on a speedy RB.But the play selection last night probably won't be the same that we'll see a few games into the season. I think their is room to develop some things that would be beneficial to their backs but if the calls continue as they did last night then Murray still will have success but I think Garrett will mix things up a bit as the season goes along.

 

[WON]

Loved what I saw from him last night. My only complaint is on the 48 yard run, it looked like he had a chance to score if he kept on going down the sideline. Perhaps it was the camera angle, but I was confused why he went left into the defenders.

I totally agree...he clearly had the sideline but decided to plow into the defenders to his left even though he had blockers over there...Nonetheless, I was very high on him this year and targeted him in most of my drafts...he looked the way I expected but his propensity to seek out contact could make him the next MBIII...we wouldn't want that

 

[Vibe Raiders]

The way he always looks to initiate contact at the end of runs reminds me of Clinton Portis. Fun to watch, but hard on the body...

I see it as a good trait...I think that is why backs like Walter Payton stayed healthy...they gave the hit instead of taking it all the time.

 

[Jewell]

Loved what I saw from him last night. My only complaint is on the 48 yard run, it looked like he had a chance to score if he kept on going down the sideline. Perhaps it was the camera angle, but I was confused why he went left into the defenders.

I totally agree...he clearly had the sideline but decided to plow into the defenders to his left even though he had blockers over there...

That's the way I saw it, too. It seemed like an odd cut. Like Murray was more interested in lowering the boom on a defender than he was eking out some more yards before getting pushed out of bounds.

 

[LawFitz]

The way he always looks to initiate contact at the end of runs reminds me of Clinton Portis. Fun to watch, but hard on the body...

I see it as a good trait...I think that is why backs like Walter Payton stayed healthy...they gave the hit instead of taking it all the time.

Best to avoid altogether, but if you must, it's definitely better to give the hit than to get.McFadden is the same way. It was funny comparing his running to Michael Bush the last couple years. DMC runs WAY harder than Michael Bush. Dude LOVES to truck defenders. Demarco does too.

 

[Hang 10]

Loved what I saw from him last night. My only complaint is on the 48 yard run, it looked like he had a chance to score if he kept on going down the sideline. Perhaps it was the camera angle, but I was confused why he went left into the defenders.

I totally agree...he clearly had the sideline but decided to plow into the defenders to his left even though he had blockers over there...

That's the way I saw it, too. It seemed like an odd cut. Like Murray was more interested in lowering the boom on a defender than he was eking out some more yards before getting pushed out of bounds.

Was it just me or did he look a little slower than last year on that run? In college he'd have taken that run to the house, no doubt about it.

 

[Patroclus]

Everything I admire and shudder at regarding DeMarco was on display last night.He looked good late and he ran with a type of aggressiveness that its been a long time since I've seen a guy on a good team do late in a game. I'm sure there are others more recent but it kind of took me back to some late games when Curtis Martin or Jamal Lewis would just bludgen guys at the end of a game. That's the good side.The bad side is he still runs SO upright and he doesn't laterally move like some of the guys that you like to see just shift and keep going instead of plowing into someone. I just can't help but think its such a small chance for him to go 16 games (or maybe even 12-13). Players are never fresher/healthier than Week 1 and he can do those things now but these things take their toll and the way he runs opens him up for some shoulder, high thigh, knee type of hits. I think we saw last year that he clearly was wearing down and becoming less effective when the cummulation of games started stacking up. By the time he got into that 5th game last year, he was average those last 3-4 games. My concern is that this might resurface.Overall, I guess he's a lot like DMAC. Not saying he is that player but the scenario is similar: If you have him, you know he's going to be utilized and likely effective WHEN HE IS AVAILABLE. So, use him when you have him and don't be surprised if he misses time during the year.

Great post. This is exactly what I thought watching the game last night. Murray is an explosive running back and almost unstoppable when he busts a run. But this guys running style is going to get him hurt every season.

 

[E_Smith]

Loved what I saw from him last night. My only complaint is on the 48 yard run, it looked like he had a chance to score if he kept on going down the sideline. Perhaps it was the camera angle, but I was confused why he went left into the defenders.

I totally agree...he clearly had the sideline but decided to plow into the defenders to his left even though he had blockers over there...

That's the way I saw it, too. It seemed like an odd cut. Like Murray was more interested in lowering the boom on a defender than he was eking out some more yards before getting pushed out of bounds.

Was it just me or did he look a little slower than last year on that run? In college he'd have taken that run to the house, no doubt about it.

In my opinion he might have taken it to the house if he ran down the sideline. I don't know what he was thinking but he misjudged what was happening.

 

[Patroclus]

Loved what I saw from him last night. My only complaint is on the 48 yard run, it looked like he had a chance to score if he kept on going down the sideline. Perhaps it was the camera angle, but I was confused why he went left into the defenders.

I totally agree...he clearly had the sideline but decided to plow into the defenders to his left even though he had blockers over there...

That's the way I saw it, too. It seemed like an odd cut. Like Murray was more interested in lowering the boom on a defender than he was eking out some more yards before getting pushed out of bounds.

Was it just me or did he look a little slower than last year on that run? In college he'd have taken that run to the house, no doubt about it.

I think the defenses he faces just got better/faster than in college

 

[Hang 10]

Loved what I saw from him last night. My only complaint is on the 48 yard run, it looked like he had a chance to score if he kept on going down the sideline. Perhaps it was the camera angle, but I was confused why he went left into the defenders.

I totally agree...he clearly had the sideline but decided to plow into the defenders to his left even though he had blockers over there...

That's the way I saw it, too. It seemed like an odd cut. Like Murray was more interested in lowering the boom on a defender than he was eking out some more yards before getting pushed out of bounds.

Was it just me or did he look a little slower than last year on that run? In college he'd have taken that run to the house, no doubt about it.

In my opinion he might have taken it to the house if he ran down the sideline. I don't know what he was thinking but he misjudged what was happening.

I dunno. It looked to me, that he knew he was going to get caught and that's why he didn't just stay down the sideline. He obviously ran well last night but I just didn't see that elite speed/burst that he's known for...

 

[E_Smith]

Loved what I saw from him last night. My only complaint is on the 48 yard run, it looked like he had a chance to score if he kept on going down the sideline. Perhaps it was the camera angle, but I was confused why he went left into the defenders.

I totally agree...he clearly had the sideline but decided to plow into the defenders to his left even though he had blockers over there...

That's the way I saw it, too. It seemed like an odd cut. Like Murray was more interested in lowering the boom on a defender than he was eking out some more yards before getting pushed out of bounds.

Was it just me or did he look a little slower than last year on that run? In college he'd have taken that run to the house, no doubt about it.

In my opinion he might have taken it to the house if he ran down the sideline. I don't know what he was thinking but he misjudged what was happening.

I dunno. It looked to me, that he knew he was going to get caught and that's why he didn't just stay down the sideline. He obviously ran well last night but I just didn't see that elite speed/burst that he's known for...

Well I think he believed they had an angle on him, which they probably did, but he had blockers that might have slowed them enough to allow him to slip by on sideline and/or he might have just outrun them diving at his ankles. Either way, the percentage move there was to take what he could on the sideline, but he got greedy and thought if he ran into the blockers he might fight through them, it was just a bad decision I think.

 

[Franknbeans]

Loved what I saw from him last night. My only complaint is on the 48 yard run, it looked like he had a chance to score if he kept on going down the sideline. Perhaps it was the camera angle, but I was confused why he went left into the defenders.

I totally agree...he clearly had the sideline but decided to plow into the defenders to his left even though he had blockers over there...

That's the way I saw it, too. It seemed like an odd cut. Like Murray was more interested in lowering the boom on a defender than he was eking out some more yards before getting pushed out of bounds.

Was it just me or did he look a little slower than last year on that run? In college he'd have taken that run to the house, no doubt about it.

In my opinion he might have taken it to the house if he ran down the sideline. I don't know what he was thinking but he misjudged what was happening.

Yeah, he's gonna be kickin himself for that move. Dez was out in front and unless he got caught from behind, there was clear path to the end zone. Maybe he was just tired after sitting a couple of Giants on their fannies?

 

[treat88]

Kid looked great to me.

Balance, short area burst, got skinny through the hole.

Finished his runs violently. Love that. Tuck and Blackburn were punished trying to take him down.

I agree it looked like he lacked that 5th gear to threaten the end zone with every carry, but, damn, if he runs like that week in and week out he's going to be a heck of a productive player.

In terms of NFL talent he looked right below that tier of rare players like AP, MJD, DMC. In terms of FF productivity he could be right there with them, especially if Romo plays that well routinely..

 

[nb009]

I think he ran out of gas on that long run.

Similar to this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30-dysv4KNs

 

[RedBird33]

Kid looked great to me.Balance, short area burst, got skinny through the hole.Finished his runs violently. Love that. Tuck and Blackburn were punished trying to take him down.I agree it looked like he lacked that 5th gear to threaten the end zone with every carry, but, damn, if he runs like that week in and week out he's going to be a heck of a productive player.In terms of NFL talent he looked right below that tier of rare players like AP, MJD, DMC. In terms of FF productivity he could be right there with them, especially if Romo plays that well routinely..

 

[LHUCKS]

He looked how I thought he would look. His question will be durability.

That has always been Demarco's question.

 

[Mile High]

Loved what I saw from him last night. My only complaint is on the 48 yard run, it looked like he had a chance to score if he kept on going down the sideline. Perhaps it was the camera angle, but I was confused why he went left into the defenders.

I totally agree...he clearly had the sideline but decided to plow into the defenders to his left even though he had blockers over there...

That's the way I saw it, too. It seemed like an odd cut. Like Murray was more interested in lowering the boom on a defender than he was eking out some more yards before getting pushed out of bounds.

Was it just me or did he look a little slower than last year on that run? In college he'd have taken that run to the house, no doubt about it.

In my opinion he might have taken it to the house if he ran down the sideline. I don't know what he was thinking but he misjudged what was happening.

I dunno. It looked to me, that he knew he was going to get caught and that's why he didn't just stay down the sideline. He obviously ran well last night but I just didn't see that elite speed/burst that he's known for...

Well I think he believed they had an angle on him, which they probably did, but he had blockers that might have slowed them enough to allow him to slip by on sideline and/or he might have just outrun them diving at his ankles. Either way, the percentage move there was to take what he could on the sideline, but he got greedy and thought if he ran into the blockers he might fight through them, it was just a bad decision I think.

Look at the replay again he had one blocker(Bryant) who took on the guy closes to them. There were two Giant players who had the angle on him (one who was even a little ahead of him) and a third one who was right on his heels and he had the sideline on his right plus he still had 30 yards to go after running 40 yards and after changing directions and bouncing off of defenders before he got free. He was running out of gas.

 

[E_Smith]

Loved what I saw from him last night. My only complaint is on the 48 yard run, it looked like he had a chance to score if he kept on going down the sideline. Perhaps it was the camera angle, but I was confused why he went left into the defenders.

I totally agree...he clearly had the sideline but decided to plow into the defenders to his left even though he had blockers over there...

That's the way I saw it, too. It seemed like an odd cut. Like Murray was more interested in lowering the boom on a defender than he was eking out some more yards before getting pushed out of bounds.

Was it just me or did he look a little slower than last year on that run? In college he'd have taken that run to the house, no doubt about it.

In my opinion he might have taken it to the house if he ran down the sideline. I don't know what he was thinking but he misjudged what was happening.

I dunno. It looked to me, that he knew he was going to get caught and that's why he didn't just stay down the sideline. He obviously ran well last night but I just didn't see that elite speed/burst that he's known for...

Well I think he believed they had an angle on him, which they probably did, but he had blockers that might have slowed them enough to allow him to slip by on sideline and/or he might have just outrun them diving at his ankles. Either way, the percentage move there was to take what he could on the sideline, but he got greedy and thought if he ran into the blockers he might fight through them, it was just a bad decision I think.

Look at the replay again he had one blocker(Bryant) who took on the guy closes to them. There were two Giant players who had the angle on him (one who was even a little ahead of him) and a third one who was right on his heels and he had the sideline on his right plus he still had 30 yards to go after running 40 yards and after changing directions and bouncing off of defenders before he got free. He was running out of gas.

Yeah I saw the picture of it in another thread. I guess you are right, but I don't understand why running out of gas = cutting back into defenders. Why not keep going until you get pushed out of bounds? He didn't just fall down he ran into the tacklers, correct?

 

[Mile High]

Loved what I saw from him last night. My only complaint is on the 48 yard run, it looked like he had a chance to score if he kept on going down the sideline. Perhaps it was the camera angle, but I was confused why he went left into the defenders.

I totally agree...he clearly had the sideline but decided to plow into the defenders to his left even though he had blockers over there...

That's the way I saw it, too. It seemed like an odd cut. Like Murray was more interested in lowering the boom on a defender than he was eking out some more yards before getting pushed out of bounds.

Was it just me or did he look a little slower than last year on that run? In college he'd have taken that run to the house, no doubt about it.

In my opinion he might have taken it to the house if he ran down the sideline. I don't know what he was thinking but he misjudged what was happening.

I dunno. It looked to me, that he knew he was going to get caught and that's why he didn't just stay down the sideline. He obviously ran well last night but I just didn't see that elite speed/burst that he's known for...

Well I think he believed they had an angle on him, which they probably did, but he had blockers that might have slowed them enough to allow him to slip by on sideline and/or he might have just outrun them diving at his ankles. Either way, the percentage move there was to take what he could on the sideline, but he got greedy and thought if he ran into the blockers he might fight through them, it was just a bad decision I think.

Look at the replay again he had one blocker(Bryant) who took on the guy closes to them. There were two Giant players who had the angle on him (one who was even a little ahead of him) and a third one who was right on his heels and he had the sideline on his right plus he still had 30 yards to go after running 40 yards and after changing directions and bouncing off of defenders before he got free. He was running out of gas.

Yeah I saw the picture of it in another thread. I guess you are right, but I don't understand why running out of gas = cutting back into defenders. Why not keep going until you get pushed out of bounds? He didn't just fall down he ran into the tacklers, correct?

Yes. Looked like to me, he taught that by cutting back on the 2 with the angle he might get them to miss and he could then out run them. But he was wrong.Looking a the replay again he would have gotten by the guy Bryant was blocking and the guy ahead of him with the angle he was tacked by the guy with who was behind him but with the angle and the guy right on his heels. All 4 of them were right there. The guy Bryant was blocking had pushed Bryant away and was in front of him to. Anyway it was a great run and I don't think he had a chance to score even if he had stayed running down the sideline.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

fluke

the irony is I got stuck with him in an auction trying to bid him up

 

[Sweetness_34]

Unless he is playing a bad D; he s going to disappoint his owners

 

[therush]

Romo audibles out of half of run plays because he likes throwing INTs

 

[togo]

Is he officially considered a bust now???

 

[duaneok66]

Is he officially considered a bust now???

he was overhyped to begin with.some guy earlier in this post used the post "rare" regarding some of his attributes. Are you kidding me? He's not even close to guys like Trent and AP.

 

[Brycestrahorn]

He was def over hyped, but that o-line isnt helping one bit

 

[Hang 10]

He looks like crap. His explosiveness is gone.

 

[FF Ninja]

Is he officially considered a bust now???

he was overhyped to begin with.some guy earlier in this post used the post "rare" regarding some of his attributes. Are you kidding me? He's not even close to guys like Trent and AP.

I think this is the one you were referring to. Hilarious.

Demarco Murray has incredible skills.He has sensational, no merely average or good but sensational vision. Once he gets to the second level he seems to have a perfect beed on evey defender and then he instantly makes the correct cut to get an angle. So the first thing I notice with his skill set is vision coupled with making instant cuts. Other guys may see something but they don't proccess and make the cuts that Murray makes.Next, he has the, burst, speed, and explosion, to take it the distance.He came in as the all-time leading scorer from Oklahoma so he can punch it in.He has great hands so he can catch.Bascially he is a legit three down back who can also score.One other aspect is that even though he's tall he runs low AT FULL SPEED meaning in a near straight line he has a low center of gravity because he runs flat footed so this gives him a huge advantage because it allows him to make cuts at full speed to pull away from defenders.His line needs upgrading but on sheer talent he is a top five running back. No question about it and if he is healthy he will blow up this year even with an iffy run blocking line.

It's looking like that busted play against the Giants where he picked up 48 yards was more fluke than skill.

 

[Shutout]

wow. seeing a lot of LOFTY expectations here.Several people calling him a top 5 RB? So basically he is better than EVERYONE not named McCoy, Foster, Rice, and Peterson? everybody? Chris Johnson, DMAC, Forte, Richardson, Charles, Ryan matthews, SJAX...just immediately is more talented than everyone...1700+ total yards. In a league that throws more than ever, we put him in a category where guys like Gore has only done this once. Guys like Peterson, Brian Westbrook (the ultimate run AND catch guy in his time), SJAX have only done 2 times in their careers. To do it in his 2nd season? Ok, now we are talking about guys who have HOF beside their names (sanders, Emmitt)...Seems a little much on the expectation side. Basically, the expectations you are rolling out for him are the kinds of stats you are projecting for this guy, this early, are the kinds of stats we have seen from LT, Terrell Davis, and Arian foster over the last 13-14 years, and thats it. It might be doable because, well, you just never know. But that's quite a perch you are putting this guy on.

When I posted this, my thoughts were that Murray was unrealistically being hyped up and people hadn't taken into account that he kind of fell into a perfect situation last year, coming in fresh when other teams had played several games, facing really bad run defenses, etc. He also clearly showed that he slowed down once he got to that 5th,6th game last year. I think that has developed again. He is clearly not looking as explosive as he did opening night. But I've picked on him enough and should offer some defense and be fair. In his defense, the Cowboys aren't using him the way I guess a lot of people thought they would and that obviously limits his production.The good news for all the people that siad he was going to be just as good as DMAC; you're right.

 

[simey]

Is he officially considered a bust now???

I don't consider him a bust when the whole offense is struggling.

 

[solorca]

He's been about what I expected coming into this season. Even last year, when everyone was all over him, he struggled against good defenses...and so far, he's played three really good run defenses (at least based on what we've seen so far this year).

The schedule gets easier after this point, so hopefully after the bye week there will be some better production from him.

In PPR, he's been getting about 12-15 points a game for me. It's not fantastic numbers, but they have been good enough to be in the mid-RB2 range, which is about where I expected him to be (I wasn't high on him, but I had him as a 17th round keeper so he's still on my team).

My biggest concern as an owner is that they start involving Felix Jones into the offense some more, moving this to more of an RBBC situation.

 

[DynastyLord]

To the person that said he's not being used right; could you please elaborate? I'm interested to hear your thoughts. I just feel its almost a lost cause with that OL. Those Guards make me sick as a Dallas fan.

 

[Shutout]

He's been about what I expected coming into this season. Even last year, when everyone was all over him, he struggled against good defenses...and so far, he's played three really good run defenses (at least based on what we've seen so far this year).The schedule gets easier after this point, so hopefully after the bye week there will be some better production from him.In PPR, he's been getting about 12-15 points a game for me. It's not fantastic numbers, but they have been good enough to be in the mid-RB2 range, which is about where I expected him to be (I wasn't high on him, but I had him as a 17th round keeper so he's still on my team).My biggest concern as an owner is that they start involving Felix Jones into the offense some more, moving this to more of an RBBC situation.

I agree. Re: Felix, I know everyone and their brother will say no, but I'm with you. I think felix has really gotten the short end of the stick in this and if the running game isn't looking spectacular with murray by himself, then why not? I remember when felix and DeMarco both played in games together, they both had roles that helped the team and I think there were a couple of games where they were both scoring something lik 10-15 in ppr. I know its not what people want to hear but when a team gets beaten badly going into a bye week, that's a LONG time to have on their hands to start tinkering with ideas.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

fluke

the irony is I got stuck with him in an auction trying to bid him up

Your new avatar Larry >>>> My link

 

[Coeur de Lion]

He's a fairly good player (not top shelf, but a solid starter), but he's on a passing team with a bad offensive line. This isn't exactly a shock to anyone who wasn't gulping the Kool Aid and drafting him in the 1st round.

 

[mdlane]

It's week 4, all of the Cowboys position players look like busts, and yet he is still a high RB2, producing better than McCoy. It can't get any worse for Murray unless he gets injured. If this is his floor, then it's not a horrible 1-2 round pick.

 

[Dought Man]

He's a fairly good player (not top shelf, but a solid starter), but he's on a passing team with a bad offensive line. This isn't exactly a shock to anyone who wasn't gulping the Kool Aid and drafting him in the 1st round.

THIS. He is not Jamal Charles, where he can overcome terrible line play with great skill and speed. He is a plodder who needs lots of carries to produce.

 

[elbowrm]

all of the Cowboys position players look like busts

Not to derail, but Miles Austin is WR10 in PPR - not exactly a bust for a 7th round pick