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DeMarious Thomas vs Eric Decker (1 Viewer)
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mr roboto
Footballguy
Decker reminds me of Ed McCaffrey and Thomas reminds me of Brandon Marshall.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Isn't Decker a lot faster than McCaffrey was?
mr roboto
Footballguy
Yes, but they are both intelligent, hard-nosed, willing to go over the middle type of receivers.
dehaven123
Footballguy
i think Decker will end up being the better value when it's said and done.
Thomas will go earlier in drafts, but Decker will end up close in pts, or exceed maybe, Thomas' production in ppr.
Thomas will go earlier in drafts, but Decker will end up close in pts, or exceed maybe, Thomas' production in ppr.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Decker is this years version of jordy. i expect 80+ catches.
i thinly jordy could be an 80+ guy if targets weren't divided so much in gb
i thinly jordy could be an 80+ guy if targets weren't divided so much in gb
buck naked
Footballguy
You couldn't be more wrong in that Decker comparison. Jeez are you uneducated on this one.'wiscstlatlmia said:
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Someone earlier mentioned Ed McCaffrey. Decker is a faster Ed McCaffrey and that is the making of a pretty damn good football player.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
Decker has shown more playing making ability in one year with a run first QB than White displayed in his entire career.You, sir, are wrong.'wiscstlatlmia said:
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DoubleG
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'wiscstlatlmia said:
Wow. I am a huge DT fan, but this Decker=Blair White stuff...seriously? I was considering putting you on ignore just so I don't actually get infected by whatever created this thinking. I have read some way-off-base comparisons, but this is just flat out wrong.ETA: In PPR, Decker slightly > DT. Non PPR, DT >>>>> Decker
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eric rymer
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The poll is for "this" season so I voted Decker. This is the last season it will happen though. I'm a DT owner and am looking forward to some very good years to come.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
you forgot that they are both "lunch-pail types", hard workers, overachievers or to sum it up in one word: white.'mr roboto said:
Hoot&HoLLer
Footballguy
Huh?you forgot that they are both "lunch-pail types", hard workers, overachievers or to sum it up in one word: white.'mr roboto said:
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Hopefully you were just joking around. Blair White was an average to below average talent that was in the right place at the right time during his rookie season - Decker showed tremendous talent while working with Kyle Orton. Once Tebow came one the scene there just wasn't enough targets or looks available.'wiscstlatlmia said:
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
follow along or get left behind.Huh?you forgot that they are both "lunch-pail types", hard workers, overachievers or to sum it up in one word: white.'mr roboto said:
Hoot&HoLLer
Footballguy
Decker is a great technical wr coming out of MN and during lockout he trained with Fitzgerald. He is much better than White.
Hoot&HoLLer
Footballguy
I have been following and quite frankly your snide reply is troubling to me as it just yet another incident of how the decency of this site has deteriorated over the years.My huh reply was relating to the white reply as though black players are not lunch pail mentality type players.follow along or get left behind.Huh?you forgot that they are both "lunch-pail types", hard workers, overachievers or to sum it up in one word: white.'mr roboto said:
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Sorry for the snide comment - it was meant in jest, but nevertheless it was unnecessary. I agree with your second point but the joke going in this thread was comparing Decker to other white WRs and the qualities like "intelligent" "overachiever", etc. put forth by the guy I qouted and then ones I added are generally used to describe to white players by the media while black players are decribed as "natural talents and great athletes". It's been an ongoing joke for years.I have been following and quite frankly your snide reply is troubling to me as it just yet another incident of how the decency of this site has deteriorated over the years.My huh reply was relating to the white reply as though black players are not lunch pail mentality type players.follow along or get left behind.Huh?you forgot that they are both "lunch-pail types", hard workers, overachievers or to sum it up in one word: white.'mr roboto said:
Hoot&HoLLer
Footballguy
Okay, I appreciate your apology and clarification. Lately I have come to really find the negative tone to peoples posts as being very difficult to stomach as it may stifle others from wanting to participate in otherwise good exchanges. Thanks again for your apology.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Decker. I see the best in every white WR that ever played football. Kind of a super cross between Steve Largent/Todd Christensen/Blair White/Austin Collie/Don Hutson/Ed McAffrey/Welker. Bonus points if they played for the Broncos and/or Peyton Manning. You guys are ridiculous.
mr roboto
Footballguy
That's the spirit.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
lol
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Thomas is a much better WR, but Manning has made some really pedestrian guys look good and Decker's not horrible - so who knows?
Dynasty I'd much rather have Thomas though.
Dynasty I'd much rather have Thomas though.
JetMaxx
Footballguy
The graceful altheticism of Lance Alworth combined with the toughness and character of Greg Garrity. Not quite the top end potential of a Fred Bilitnikoff.
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Green Hornet
Footballguy
zamboni
Footballguy
This is where I think a lot of people get enamored with Thomas's physical tools, which we can all agree seem to be off the charts relative to Decker (or a lot of WRs).But those gifts don't necessarily mean that Thomas will be the better or more productive WR when all is said and done. Obviously there's a lot more that goes into being a good WR than speed and YAC ability - hands, route running, willingness to make tough catches, etc.
I think it will be closer than people think, with Decker getting more catches and Thomas more yards. TDs? Who knows.
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
The best comp for Decker I think is probably Jordy Nelson. Just a good football player. Not a star athlete, but not a slouch either. Just good at all the nuances of the position. He's big, runs good routes and can catch. This whole white and black thing is kind of dumb but I think in all reality Jordy is a great comparison. Their size and strength of QB is very close. Bother worked their ways up the depth chart. Both show a lot of polish.
Demaryus reminds me more of a poor man's Andre Johnson. He's good but not great like Johnson. He's had the injuries (just like Johnson...maybe carrying all that weight into cuts isn't ideal). But his upside is great and he probably will have better QB play then Johnson ever had.
Demaryus reminds me more of a poor man's Andre Johnson. He's good but not great like Johnson. He's had the injuries (just like Johnson...maybe carrying all that weight into cuts isn't ideal). But his upside is great and he probably will have better QB play then Johnson ever had.
TheGrimReaper
Footballguy
Decker will have more recpts than Thomas, but Thomas will have a higher YPR. TD differential is a coin toss. Non PPR it's a coin flip, but in PPR, Decker is the choice.
treat88
Footballguy
Pretty much agree with these sentiments.I do worry about both of them staying healthy for a full 16 more than I do with other players. Probably only slightly more, as neither has had any non-acute injury history, but I do have that perception.
I voted Decker, but looking at the Colts WR's and their receptions from 2000-2010, it makes me question whether that is wise.
Top two receiving WR's for Colts since 2000
Harrison - 102/Pathon - 50
Harrison - 109/Wilkins - 34
Harison - 143/Wayne - 49
Harrison - 94/Wayne - 68
Harrison - 86/Wayne - 77 (Stokely - 68)
Wayne - 83/Harrison - 82 (Stokely - 41)
Harrison - 95/Wayne - 86
Wayne - 104/Gonzalez - 37 (Clark 58)
Wayne - 82/Harrison - 60 (Clark 77)
Wayne - 100/Collie - 60 (Clark 100)
Wayne - 111/Garcon - 67 (Tamme 67)
Manning clearly locks into his studs and recently into his TE's. Decker may be the Harrison/Wayne of the Broncos, but just from watching them play that does not seem to be the case to me. So I guess I voted Decker prematurely, and would now probably lean towards Thomas if he stays healthy as he does seem to be closer to the stud WR of the duo. It could certainly be a Wayne/Harrison type of combo that existed in 2005-2006 where they were both over 80 catches, but that seems less likely to me that one of them getting the lions share and the other getting 60% of those looks based on the above. It will be fun to find out either way.
Top two receiving WR's for Colts since 2000
Harrison - 102/Pathon - 50
Harrison - 109/Wilkins - 34
Harison - 143/Wayne - 49
Harrison - 94/Wayne - 68
Harrison - 86/Wayne - 77 (Stokely - 68)
Wayne - 83/Harrison - 82 (Stokely - 41)
Harrison - 95/Wayne - 86
Wayne - 104/Gonzalez - 37 (Clark 58)
Wayne - 82/Harrison - 60 (Clark 77)
Wayne - 100/Collie - 60 (Clark 100)
Wayne - 111/Garcon - 67 (Tamme 67)
Manning clearly locks into his studs and recently into his TE's. Decker may be the Harrison/Wayne of the Broncos, but just from watching them play that does not seem to be the case to me. So I guess I voted Decker prematurely, and would now probably lean towards Thomas if he stays healthy as he does seem to be closer to the stud WR of the duo. It could certainly be a Wayne/Harrison type of combo that existed in 2005-2006 where they were both over 80 catches, but that seems less likely to me that one of them getting the lions share and the other getting 60% of those looks based on the above. It will be fun to find out either way.
Touchdown There
Footballguy
Good info here. Thanks for those numbers. In another thread, I thought that Decker would be the better value as far as ADP. In this poll I voted for Thomas. If these guys are as talented and hard working as Peyton, they are both going to kill it this year and they are flying up dynasty draft boards.'MDSkinner said:
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
doeseatplace
Footballguy
44 posts and no "high motor" reference. I am disappointed in the Pool
VibeBox
Footballguy
decker being the reggie wayne of the broncos is spot on. i've prefered decker to dt from the start and was super happy to be getting such value on him up until now. seeing deck put up a 2 (should have been 3) td performance against the first string 49s is disheartening though cause i think his adp is gonna keep creeping up, or at least his name recognition amongst guppies
flc735
Footballguy
doesn't matter. both are whitei was a fan of dymerious but now i am starting to think peyton will struggle with his deep ball throughout the season. i think that is going to limit his upside
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flc735
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