Democratic Debate (1 Viewer)

[The General]

Saturday night debate? WTF.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Go read her Wikipedia and try to be even minimally objective about her work.

But it matters not. It's an echo chamber in here.

 

[Rove!]

Saturday night debate? WTF.

I was thinking "This is a great Saturday Night Live sketch....and then, after a few chuckles, I realized it wasn't...."

 

[squistion]

The last several pages of comments in this thread have been pretty much dominated by the Hillary haters. Kinda nice that it has kept most of your ranting and raving in one place.

Looking forward to seeing another installment of Hillary Derangement Syndrome when the next debate is held.

It's following the same pattern in the GOP thread where it's dominated by GOP haters.

Not even close when comparing the two threads.

You're right. Many more GOP haters in the GOP thread. Thanks for pointing that out!

Not true, make a post count of political leanings of the posters for the last four pages in each thread and get back to us...

 

[NutterButter]

A lot of Hillary hatred going on in here. I love it.

 

[MaxThreshold]

The last several pages of comments in this thread have been pretty much dominated by the Hillary haters. Kinda nice that it has kept most of your ranting and raving in one place.

Looking forward to seeing another installment of Hillary Derangement Syndrome when the next debate is held.

It's following the same pattern in the GOP thread where it's dominated by GOP haters.

Not even close when comparing the two threads.

You're right. Many more GOP haters in the GOP thread. Thanks for pointing that out!

Not true, make a post count of political leanings of the posters for the last four pages in each thread and get back to us...

It's absolutely true we have more GOP haters.

 

[squistion]

The last several pages of comments in this thread have been pretty much dominated by the Hillary haters. Kinda nice that it has kept most of your ranting and raving in one place.

Looking forward to seeing another installment of Hillary Derangement Syndrome when the next debate is held.

It's following the same pattern in the GOP thread where it's dominated by GOP haters.

Not even close when comparing the two threads.

You're right. Many more GOP haters in the GOP thread. Thanks for pointing that out!

Not true, make a post count of political leanings of the posters for the last four pages in each thread and get back to us...

:crickets:

 

[Stinger Ray]

The last several pages of comments in this thread have been pretty much dominated by the Hillary haters. Kinda nice that it has kept most of your ranting and raving in one place.Looking forward to seeing another installment of Hillary Derangement Syndrome when the next debate is held.

It's following the same pattern in the GOP thread where it's dominated by GOP haters.

Not even close when comparing the two threads.

You're right. Many more GOP haters in the GOP thread. Thanks for pointing that out!

Not true, make a post count of political leanings of the posters for the last four pages in each thread and get back to us...

:crickets:

 

[cubd8]

Cross-posting from the Bernie thread

Holy #### - I had to stop watching the debate but recorded the remainder and I'm watching it now. Hillary turned the Wall St. "attack" by Bernie in to a 9/11 answer. That's classic.

It's pathetically embarrassing

That's a pretty bizarre answer by Hillary. Makes no sense.

 

[AAABatteries]

Cross-posting from the Bernie thread

Holy #### - I had to stop watching the debate but recorded the remainder and I'm watching it now. Hillary turned the Wall St. "attack" by Bernie in to a 9/11 answer. That's classic.

It's pathetically embarrassing

That's a pretty bizarre answer by Hillary. Makes no sense.

She almost double-downed on it after they showed the question from the Twitter user.

 

[The Commish]

Didn't tune in to this one but it doesn't sound like I missed anything. No game changers. We move on.

Actually, you missed plenty, but I suspect it doesn't really matter.

 

[Willie Neslon]

I feel like Sanders needs to get even more pointed in his message. He was against Iraq, Hillary was for it. If we hadn't invaded Iraq social security would could have been solvent for thirty years, we could have paid for healthcare for every American for 20 years and ISIS wouldn't exist, not to mention the cost in lives. (Don't quote me on those exact numbers but it's something along those lines.) He's right in saying Iraq was the biggest foreign policy blunder in modern American history but he should be hammering away by saying what we could have done with the money we spent there.

 

[The Commish]

Cross-posting from the Bernie thread

Holy #### - I had to stop watching the debate but recorded the remainder and I'm watching it now. Hillary turned the Wall St. "attack" by Bernie in to a 9/11 answer. That's classic.

Waiting for the Tim Spin

I didn't see it.Seems like a weak answer but the haters are over emphasizing it (no surprise there). Personally I think Wall Street is good for the American economy and it doesn't bother me at all that they contribute to her. But I know that's an unpopular viewpoint with the populists on both sides that want to demonize capitalism. Unfortunately Hillary feels she needs to suck up to the Warren/ Sanders types in the party's for the time being. I wouldn't, but then I would have no chance of being elected.

It's really no use arguing with most of you who despise Hillary. It seems so obvious to me that she would BY FAR be the best President compared to all of the terrible choices on both sides. Given that Trump is surging, I don't even know why any rational person would vote for anyone other than her. But that's just me.

Perfect example of what Rich Conway points out over and over again. It's a shame we can't raise the bar of expectation for our politicians. We get exactly what we deserve.

 

[squistion]

I feel like Sanders needs to get even more pointed in his message. He was against Iraq, Hillary was for it. If we hadn't invaded Iraq social security would could have been solvent for thirty years, we could have paid for healthcare for every American for 20 years and ISIS wouldn't exist, not to mention the cost in lives. (Don't quote me on those exact numbers but it's something along those lines.) He's right in saying Iraq was the biggest foreign policy blunder in modern American history but he should be hammering away by saying what we could have done with the money we spent there.

That dog won't hunt. The majority of Democrats have moved on and no longer hold it against Hillary. Meanwhile the last thing Republicans want to do is start talking about the consequences of the Iraq war.

 

[AAABatteries]

I feel like Sanders needs to get even more pointed in his message. He was against Iraq, Hillary was for it. If we hadn't invaded Iraq social security would could have been solvent for thirty years, we could have paid for healthcare for every American for 20 years and ISIS wouldn't exist, not to mention the cost in lives. (Don't quote me on those exact numbers but it's something along those lines.) He's right in saying Iraq was the biggest foreign policy blunder in modern American history but he should be hammering away by saying what we could have done with the money we spent there.

That dog won't hunt. The majority of Democrats have moved on and no longer hold it against Hillary. Meanwhile the last thing Republicans want to do is start talking about the consequences of the Iraq war.

He said Sanders should say it. What does that have to do with the Republicans?

 

[The Commish]

Can't figure out which is more entertaining...the squishy spin zone and refusal of reality or the GOPers getting bent out of shape that Hillary is better at politics than they are? Sad that this is the focus, but that's politics in America.

 

[squistion]

I feel like Sanders needs to get even more pointed in his message. He was against Iraq, Hillary was for it. If we hadn't invaded Iraq social security would could have been solvent for thirty years, we could have paid for healthcare for every American for 20 years and ISIS wouldn't exist, not to mention the cost in lives. (Don't quote me on those exact numbers but it's something along those lines.) He's right in saying Iraq was the biggest foreign policy blunder in modern American history but he should be hammering away by saying what we could have done with the money we spent there.

That dog won't hunt. The majority of Democrats have moved on and no longer hold it against Hillary. Meanwhile the last thing Republicans want to do is start talking about the consequences of the Iraq war.

He said Sanders should say it. What does that have to do with the Republicans?

Just noting it is a dead campaign issue for either side to use against Hillary (if the GOP wants to go there in 2016). Hillary haters here (who are conservative in most other postings) seem to like to bring it up from time to time (quite often under the guise of being an "independent" or trying to offer some "perspective" on Hillary).

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Free college for all isn't free at all. It's just taxpayers having to pay for everybody else. So for those that have already paid tens of thousands of dollars to go to college, they now would have to pay tens of thousands of dollars for everyone ELSE to go to college as well!

rather have it spent on education than military.

We already spend WAY more on education than on military.

Its actually about equal. 621 billion on education, 601 billion on military.

More like $940B on education and $800B on defense.

And that doesn't include all the no to low interest college loans that are either fully funded or backed by the federal government.

Probably should buy another submarine or two then. Even stevens!

 

[Willie Neslon]

I feel like Sanders needs to get even more pointed in his message. He was against Iraq, Hillary was for it. If we hadn't invaded Iraq social security would could have been solvent for thirty years, we could have paid for healthcare for every American for 20 years and ISIS wouldn't exist, not to mention the cost in lives. (Don't quote me on those exact numbers but it's something along those lines.) He's right in saying Iraq was the biggest foreign policy blunder in modern American history but he should be hammering away by saying what we could have done with the money we spent there.

That dog won't hunt. The majority of Democrats have moved on and no longer hold it against Hillary. Meanwhile the last thing Republicans want to do is start talking about the consequences of the Iraq war.

He said Sanders should say it. What does that have to do with the Republicans?

Just noting it is a dead campaign issue for either side to use against Hillary (if the GOP wants to go there in 2016). Hillary haters here (most of which are conservative in most postings) seem to like to bring it up from time to time (quite often under the guise of being an "independent" or trying to offer some "perspective" on Hillary).

I don't think it's a dead issue at all. Would what just happened in Paris have happened if we didn't invade Iraq?

 

[Rove!]

I feel like Sanders needs to get even more pointed in his message. He was against Iraq, Hillary was for it. If we hadn't invaded Iraq social security would could have been solvent for thirty years, we could have paid for healthcare for every American for 20 years and ISIS wouldn't exist, not to mention the cost in lives. (Don't quote me on those exact numbers but it's something along those lines.) He's right in saying Iraq was the biggest foreign policy blunder in modern American history but he should be hammering away by saying what we could have done with the money we spent there.

That dog won't hunt. The majority of Democrats have moved on and no longer hold it against Hillary. Meanwhile the last thing Republicans want to do is start talking about the consequences of the Iraq war.

He said Sanders should say it. What does that have to do with the Republicans?

Just noting it is a dead campaign issue for either side to use against Hillary (if the GOP wants to go there in 2016). Hillary haters here (most of which are conservative in most postings) seem to like to bring it up from time to time (quite often under the guise of being an "independent" or trying to offer some "perspective" on Hillary).

I don't think it's a dead issue at all. Would what just happened in Paris have happened if we didn't invade Iraq?

Or if we had kept our troops in place or if we didn't send the "rebels" arms or if didn't fuel civil war in Syria? This whole mess has Hillary's fingerprints all over it, every step of the way.

 

[cubd8]

I feel like Sanders needs to get even more pointed in his message. He was against Iraq, Hillary was for it. If we hadn't invaded Iraq social security would could have been solvent for thirty years, we could have paid for healthcare for every American for 20 years and ISIS wouldn't exist, not to mention the cost in lives. (Don't quote me on those exact numbers but it's something along those lines.) He's right in saying Iraq was the biggest foreign policy blunder in modern American history but he should be hammering away by saying what we could have done with the money we spent there.

That dog won't hunt. The majority of Democrats have moved on and no longer hold it against Hillary. Meanwhile the last thing Republicans want to do is start talking about the consequences of the Iraq war.

He said Sanders should say it. What does that have to do with the Republicans?

Just noting it is a dead campaign issue for either side to use against Hillary (if the GOP wants to go there in 2016). Hillary haters here (most of which are conservative in most postings) seem to like to bring it up from time to time (quite often under the guise of being an "independent" or trying to offer some "perspective" on Hillary).

I don't think it's a dead issue at all. Would what just happened in Paris have happened if we didn't invade Iraq?

Or if we had kept our troops in place or if we didn't send the "rebels" arms or if didn't fuel civil war in Syria? This whole mess has Hillary's fingerprints all over it, every step of the way.

No doubt that the decision to invade Iraq is the catalyst for increased chaos that resulted. The decision by Bush (and backed by most of the Congress) is one of the worst foreign policy decisions ever, certainly in my life. Saying that, the decisions by Obama shouldn't be discounted. Bush's bad decision led to all of this getting started, but Obama's decisions helped created ISIS.

 

[Zegras11]

:crickets:

How old are you?

 

[ShamrockPride]

Free college for all isn't free at all. It's just taxpayers having to pay for everybody else. So for those that have already paid tens of thousands of dollars to go to college, they now would have to pay tens of thousands of dollars for everyone ELSE to go to college as well!

I'm going to copy my response to another poster who has the same exact line of thinking as you:

"Only we (this generation) would understand that. Down the road, the system will be installed and generations down the road people will not even think about it. They will say, "I went to college for free, people after me can too." It will just be an afterthought."

Someone has to be the generation that feels the impact if this is going to happen. Somebody has to suffer for others to reap the rewards down the line. Don't be selfish. Many of the institutions, laws, and regulations we have in place in this country today are due to those before us suffering. All things considered, this due we would have to pay is relatively minor compared to others before us.

 

[NREC34]

Free college for all isn't free at all. It's just taxpayers having to pay for everybody else. So for those that have already paid tens of thousands of dollars to go to college, they now would have to pay tens of thousands of dollars for everyone ELSE to go to college as well!

I'm going to copy my response to another poster who has the same exact line of thinking as you:"Only we (this generation) would understand that. Down the road, the system will be installed and generations down the road people will not even think about it. They will say, "I went to college for free, people after me can too." It will just be an afterthought."

Someone has to be the generation that feels the impact if this is going to happen. Somebody has to suffer for others to reap the rewards down the line. Don't be selfish. Many of the institutions, laws, and regulations we have in place in this country today are due to those before us suffering. All things considered, this due we would have to pay is relatively minor compared to others before us.

Would help those of us with kids and trying to save something for their college.

 

[squistion]

:crickets:

How old are you?

Old enough not to take quotes out of context.

 

[Stinger Ray]

:crickets:

How old are you?

Old enough not to take quotes out of context.

 

[cubd8]

i do give Hillary credit in her opening statement to sticking with what most people wanted to hear her comment on, even if it was all fluff. Sanders pivoted right away into the economy after a statement or two about Paris, but while the economy is his area for Democratic voters, I do think he further exposed himself as a one issue candidate.

 

[squistion]

The last several pages of comments in this thread have been pretty much dominated by the Hillary haters. Kinda nice that it has kept most of your ranting and raving in one place.Looking forward to seeing another installment of Hillary Derangement Syndrome when the next debate is held.

It's following the same pattern in the GOP thread where it's dominated by GOP haters.

Not even close when comparing the two threads.

You're right. Many more GOP haters in the GOP thread. Thanks for pointing that out!

Not true, make a post count of political leanings of the posters for the last four pages in each thread and get back to us...

:crickets:

Translation: "Can't prove you wrong but if I keep posting this emoji maybe somebody will think otherwise"

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

Climate change = terrorism. Thanks bernie

What a crazy, old man.

You understand that the people that fund these extremist groups in the ME are doing so mostly with oil money, right?

Just a guess, but I assume that Sanders actually is referencing the impact of droughts and floods for wheat exporters on 2010-2011 as well as droughts in the middle east itself fueling existing unrest.