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Democratic Debate (1 Viewer)

cubd8 said:
As entertaining as some of these answers are, it is refreshing to see a debate focused on issues.

How would Trump survive a 2 hour policy heavy debate?
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He wouldn't, which is why Bernie would smoke him in the general. Hillary has enough personal dirt that Trump wouldn't have to focus on policy too much.

 
I am just going to throw up some factual information of Bernie's outrage of the "Wall Street" bailout. Which if it did not happen.....we may still be in soup lines because of the historic collapse our banking system (which was the banks faults....but everyone and their uncle was making money in the last real estate boom at every level of the economy. It's called capitalism which has boom and bust periods.....you know Bernie....America?) It's how the country was built and why we are still the biggest and best place in the world to live, raise a family and where you have an opportunity to stake your claim. 

Bernie means well.......but come on man. Stop blaming Wall Street and Corporations for every single solitary problem (there is problems with it and with how much they can influence politics and I get he wants to try and change that) but America is the land of free. You can make as much as you want here legally. Go stake your claim. If your not making it.......ask yourself why. Blaming "The Man" for everything is just freaking ridiculous and loser talk. Pure loser talk. I can't take that BS. The disabled, the sick, the old.....yes we must help them and always help them. Young healthy people.....go hustle and make it happen. Stop blaming the man. Start looking in the mirror.


The Bailout Scorecard


Last update: Mar. 2, 2016

Altogether, accounting for both the TARP and the Fannie and Freddie bailout, $618B has gone out the door—invested, loaned, or paid out—while  $390B has been returned.

The Treasury has been earning a return on most of the money invested or loaned. So far, it has earned $294B. When those revenues are taken into account, the government has realized a $65.3B profit as of Mar. 2, 2016.

Unfortunately the bailout had to happen to save everyone......otherwise the ATM's would have been shut down, the banks would have all failed and you would have seen the greatest depression we had seen yet.  The AIG bridge loan might have been the most critical part of all of it. That was insane. I don't think the average American realized the scope of how bad this really was. We were staring into the abyss. The banking system was going to completely fail. We are talking disaster.


 

 
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bud29 said:
He wouldn't, which is why Bernie would smoke him in the general. Hillary has enough personal dirt that Trump wouldn't have to focus on policy too much.
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I agree that Trump would try to turn the debate into a circus. I don't think there's any other strategy.

 
BroncoFreak_2K3 said:
Her answer was Sanders voted for it too.  What a vote.
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No it wasn't. She said there were good and parts to the law. She explained what the good parts were. She admitted in retrospect that it was overall a mistake. What more do you want in an answer? 
 

Once again, most of the criticism of Hillary Clinton in this forum is completely irrational. You guys hate her so much, you're not even listening to her. 

 
timschochet said:
No it wasn't. She said there were good and parts to the law. She explained what the good parts were. She admitted in retrospect that it was overall a mistake. What more do you want in an answer? 
 

Once again, most of the criticism of Hillary Clinton in this forum is completely irrational. You guys hate her so much, you're not even listening to her. 
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You're must be watching a different debate than the rest of us

 
timschochet said:
No it wasn't. She said there were good and parts to the law. She explained what the good parts were. She admitted in retrospect that it was overall a mistake. What more do you want in an answer? 
 

Once again, most of the criticism of Hillary Clinton in this forum is completely irrational. You guys hate her so much, you're not even listening to her. 
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Her first response, when twice asked, was to bring up Sanders.  

 
If you're white you don't know what it's like to be poor?  Bernie needs to come down here and let me take him on a drive or two.

 
timschochet said:
No it wasn't. She said there were good and parts to the law. She explained what the good parts were. She admitted in retrospect that it was overall a mistake. What more do you want in an answer? 
 

Once again, most of the criticism of Hillary Clinton in this forum is completely irrational. You guys hate her so much, you're not even listening to her. 
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Not a word.

 
Todem said:
I am just going to throw up some factual information of Bernie's outrage of the "Wall Street" bailout. Which if it did not happen.....we may still be in soup lines because of the historic collapse our banking system (which was the banks faults....but everyone and their uncle was making money in the last real estate boom at every level of the economy. It's called capitalism which has boom and bust periods.....you know Bernie....America?) It's how the country was built and why we are still the biggest and best place in the world to live, raise a family and where you have an opportunity to stake your claim. 

Bernie means well.......but come on man. Stop blaming Wall Street and Corporations for every single solitary problem (there is problems with it and with how much they can influence politics and I get he wants to try and change that) but America is the land of free. You can make as much as you want here legally. Go stake your claim. If your not making it.......ask yourself why. Blaming "The Man" for everything is just freaking ridiculous and loser talk. Pure loser talk. I can't take that BS. The disabled, the sick, the old.....yes we must help them and always help them. Young healthy people.....go hustle and make it happen. Stop blaming the man. Start looking in the mirror.


The Bailout Scorecard


Last update: Mar. 2, 2016

Altogether, accounting for both the TARP and the Fannie and Freddie bailout, $618B has gone out the door—invested, loaned, or paid out—while  $390B has been returned.

The Treasury has been earning a return on most of the money invested or loaned. So far, it has earned $294B. When those revenues are taken into account, the government has realized a $65.3B profit as of Mar. 2, 2016.

Unfortunately the bailout had to happen to save everyone......otherwise the ATM's would have been shut down, the banks would have all failed and you would have seen the greatest depression we had seen yet.  The AIG bridge loan might have been the most critical part of all of it. That was insane. I don't think the average American realized the scope of how bad this really was. We were staring into the abyss. The banking system was going to completely fail. We are talking disaster.


 
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Thanks George Bush.

Obana has been taking credit for 8 years for a measure that Bush and congressional Democrats put together.

 
Rove! said:
Thanks George Bush.

Obama has been taking credit for 8 years for a measure that Bush and congressional Democrats put together.
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Because he should. Read Game Change; Obama and Nancy Pelosi were the movers behind TARP. Bush was basically an approving spectator. 

 
Rove! said:
Thanks George Bush.

Obana has been taking credit for 8 years for a measure that Bush and congressional Democrats put together.
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Actually Hank Paulson and Timothy Geithner had the biggest hands in this while George was probably at Camp David.

 
MaxThreshold said:
Not really, but continue with your assumptions if you need that to get yourself thru the day.
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My assumptions?...card trader is a trump guy and you are a heavily biased righty.  Those are facts, not assumptions. You two seem to have the most problem with the tweet.  Worrying more about who wrote rather than what it said (which was 100% true). Dem debates have been far more about issues and substance than the GOP debates.

 
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Todem said:
I am just going to throw up some factual information of Bernie's outrage of the "Wall Street" bailout. Which if it did not happen.....we may still be in soup lines because of the historic collapse our banking system (which was the banks faults....but everyone and their uncle was making money in the last real estate boom at every level of the economy. It's called capitalism which has boom and bust periods.....you know Bernie....America?) It's how the country was built and why we are still the biggest and best place in the world to live, raise a family and where you have an opportunity to stake your claim. 

Bernie means well.......but come on man. Stop blaming Wall Street and Corporations for every single solitary problem (there is problems with it and with how much they can influence politics and I get he wants to try and change that) but America is the land of free. You can make as much as you want here legally. Go stake your claim. If your not making it.......ask yourself why. Blaming "The Man" for everything is just freaking ridiculous and loser talk. Pure loser talk. I can't take that BS. The disabled, the sick, the old.....yes we must help them and always help them. Young healthy people.....go hustle and make it happen. Stop blaming the man. Start looking in the mirror.


The Bailout Scorecard


Last update: Mar. 2, 2016

Altogether, accounting for both the TARP and the Fannie and Freddie bailout, $618B has gone out the door—invested, loaned, or paid out—while  $390B has been returned.

The Treasury has been earning a return on most of the money invested or loaned. So far, it has earned $294B. When those revenues are taken into account, the government has realized a $65.3B profit as of Mar. 2, 2016.

Unfortunately the bailout had to happen to save everyone......otherwise the ATM's would have been shut down, the banks would have all failed and you would have seen the greatest depression we had seen yet.  The AIG bridge loan might have been the most critical part of all of it. That was insane. I don't think the average American realized the scope of how bad this really was. We were staring into the abyss. The banking system was going to completely fail. We are talking disaster.


 
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While true, the government should have received an equity stake in those bailed out. Given the risk it took in propping up an insolvent sector of the economy that is a pretty poor risk adjusted return.

but I do agree with your overall point that the bailout turned out to be very successful and anyone arguing otherwise is ignorant or willfully misstating the facts.

 
sho nuff said:
My assumptions...card trader is a trump guy and you are a heavily biased righty.  You two seem to have the most problem with the tweet.  Worrying more about who wrote rather than what it said (which was 100% true). Dem debates have been far more about issues and substance than the GOP debates.
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Wait...because you think it's 100% true THAT makes it true?  I'm no big fan of the the GOP debates, but this Dem stuff is one pandering point after another.

 
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