Democratic Debate (1 Viewer)

[TLEF316]

I'd never vote for a socialist, but Sanders might be my favorite candidate remaining on either side. Just his authenticity and passion is refreshing, and I believe he means it when he talks about getting the big money out of politics. He strikes me as the kind of person we wish all politicians would be -- principled public servants. Hillary must hate having to stand next to someone like that. Damn phony old cow.

This is basically how I feel as well. Bernie (flawed as he may be) seems to genuinely want to make positive change. Every decision made and stance taken by Hillary over the past 40 years has been about personal advancement.

Just one man's opinion and maybe its unfair, but that's how it seems on the surface.

That being said, I think being president would kill Bernie. He's an old man.

Hillary's only like 4 years younger than he is. Probably kill her too.

Meh. Broads live longer.

Pretty confident Hillary will be running again 8 years from now if she doesn't win this time.

 

[Rove!]

He should just answer that he'll hire Hillary to be SoS.

No way...she ####ed it up pretty bad the first time....

 

[crewmember]

Is "electability" really a thing still? Clinton's favorability numbers are right in line with the "less crazy" GOPers not Trump.....what else is there to discuss?

Just by you poltical nuts who blow everything out of proportion.

A lot of normal, average people in this country think she's the best candidate available.

I am asking why it is still being brought up....as in, it's not an issue (at least worth discussing).

It will be brought up less now that Bernie is pointing out the polls. Even Hillary said it isn't about elect-ability at one point tonight, if the polls were reversed she would be all over elect-ability. Even with the polls the media has been all over saying he isn't electable because they don't want him to to win. And it's worked as a lot of voters are noted to like Bernie but worried about him being electable, but he has overcome it.

 

[crewmember]

This MSNBC panel and host are all from team Hillary - just bad work by the network.

bad for us, good for them. Guy just said his number 1 goal was campaign finance reform. What did you see during the commercials of the debate? Political advertisements.

 

[crewmember]

Really enjoyed it. Still love Bernie but for the first time in a long time I feel like I could actually stomach voting for Hillary if I had to

:X

You didn't see the differences?

the de-regulation derivatives lie really pissed me off, I've been decided on Sanders or green party for a little while now but tonight almost wanted me to hate vote for Trump. I won't do that again, the one time I voted for a republican was Santorum the year he lost his senate seat. I was so pissed off Casey used dirty tricks to keep the Green party off the ballot, I went kamikaze in the voting booth that year.

Edit to add: Also don't like the DNC trying to rig it for Clinton, want my vote to be a choice not the party selecting the candidate for me.

 

[crewmember]

This MSNBC panel and host are all from team Hillary - just bad work by the network.

Just thinking that, DWS saying that Hillary said she would break up the banks. Total bs.

I'm a life long Democrat who has despised DWS for a long long time - a total pariah on this party.

She annoys me more than any republican ever could. Think my hate started when interviewed about democrats changing their platform at convention to add "God" in it. They all lie but for most of them you often see hesitation or some kind of defensive maneuver but she's a pathological liar, there isn't a millisecond of hesitation and I find that beyond irritating.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I saw this on screen and laughed.

https://twitter.com/okmaher/status/695432714170736641

 

[Doctor Detroit]

He should just answer that he'll hire Hillary to be SoS.

No way...she ####ed it up pretty bad the first time....

Says the guy who moronically bumped the Benghazi thread over and over, even after the evidence was in.

Maybe you should report yourself instead of reporting everyone else. :spam: :spam: :reportbutton:

 

[The Commish]

HE ASKED WHICH ONE YOU WOULD DO FIRST

That whole line of questions and lack thereof is what's different between the two of them. Hillary goes all and doesn't answer and Bernie gives a direct answer and is ready for the next question.

 

[The Commish]

Lots of people have wondered what these guys will attack first after elected. I know I've wondered. Bernie is going after campaign finance reform and immigration. Hillary is apparently going after everything. Doesn't seem very pragmatic on her part. Not sure why she can't just answer the question, even if it's a simple one like that.

 

[James Daulton]

What % of independents does Bernie have to win over to win the general election? Isn't the country only 10% independent and everyone else will vote according to party? I've got to say that Bernie seems incredibly earnest and forthright. I also love the lack of PAC money.

Plus he hates Wall St. and most big business.

 

[Todem]

I'd never vote for a socialist, but Sanders might be my favorite candidate remaining on either side. Just his authenticity and passion is refreshing, and I believe he means it when he talks about getting the big money out of politics. He strikes me as the kind of person we wish all politicians would be -- principled public servants. Hillary must hate having to stand next to someone like that. Damn phony old cow.

Great post. After watching the entire debate last night it is so obvious the guy is genuine and stands for something. The problem I have is the bolded.

Too bad. I wish we had more candidates like him that represent more capitalistic ideals.

Some things I totally agree with him and like, but a lot of things (and things I feel are far too socialistic in nature) will not get done in the present state of our political system. If he indeed is elected as our President a lot of compromise will have to be employed to get anything done with the House and Senate.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Isn't the country only 10% independent and everyone else will vote according to party?

43% of the country is independent.

With that said, a lot of those independents lean one way or the other. You're probably right that there's really only about 10% of the voters that are persuadable. That's why so much effort goes into getting out the vote of the people that already agree with you.

 

[Slapdash]

Lots of people have wondered what these guys will attack first after elected. I know I've wondered. Bernie is going after campaign finance reform and immigration. Hillary is apparently going after everything. Doesn't seem very pragmatic on her part. Not sure why she can't just answer the question, even if it's a simple one like that.

It just means nobody has reached the donor level for her first priority yet.

 

[Righetti]

Who knew that taking out that stiff O'Malley would allow Bernie and Hillary to take out their stuff. For two hours we watched Hillary try dirty dancing with an unwilling partner and we saw the passion out of an old man trying to send back a bowl of soup.

Here are some comments

- when it comes to anything genuine, Bernie has her beat badly, it's as if they aren't even playing the same game. Bernie believes everything he says and Hillary believes everything she says will get her elected. The two don't mix

- I love the fact that unlike every other candidate who sloshes down Poland Spring after Poland Spring, Bernie is chugging straight black coffee. It's 10:45 and he's got a pot of that gas station quality mud under his lector.

- Hillary on the other hand practically has Rachel Maddow under her lector the entire night

- for all the fireworks we got early, it seemed the old man got a bit tired and Hillary realized it wasn't playing well, so at some point they seemed to be exchanging spots underneath each other's lectors

- you can see the Melanoma growing on Bernie's head, if that isn't king to get him, the fact that he looks like he is about to go into cardiac arrest right on stage. He also looks like he has to pee the entire time, maybe cut back on that black mud a bit??

- when Bernie smiles I half expect his teeth to fall out

- When Hillary smiles I see that carnival game clown

- when it comes to foreign policy, Bernie is lost. It is not the lack of experience that bothers me, it is that he has absolutely no discernible policy or direction. The answer to Russia's land grab cannot be "income inequality", the answer to North Korea cannot be "deregulating the banks" and the answer to Saudi-Iranian feud cannot be Big Oil...well maybe that could have something to do with it

- Bernie makes people who follow Islam sound like they are a big antlered large deer. I get the Brooklyn accent is part of the charm but come on dude.

- you have to love that Hillary turns over her notes when she goes to take a wee. She treats them more carefully than she does classified information

- The contrast between a seasoned politician and a ideologue is pretty stark and as much as Hillary will fight I think we all believe that voting for her is a vote for the status quo...and that is not a bad thing at all

- glad to see Flint brought up, time for Obama to step in and treat this like the national crisis that it is, it is not his fault but if that were Bush, he would be getting killed for inaction. Time to step up and lead

- there is nothing lamer than the "would you choose him/her as your VP?" God, get over yourself MSNBC, we all know she is taking Ed Rendell and he is taking a moose

- I hope Chris Matthews and the rest of the MSNBC crew didn't hurt themselves (or each other) trying to get out from underneath Rachel Maddow and Chuck Todd's desk

- last note, when the thing ended it was odd to not see Old Bill coming out...wouldn't be shocked if he was stuck under an MSNBC intern's desk

 

[avoiding injuries]

Is it common for the moderator to embrace both candidates in a hug after the debate?

 

[skol asylum]

Who knew that taking out that stuff O'Malley would allow Bernie and Hillary to take out their stuff. For two hours we watched Hillary try dirty dancing with an unwilling partner and we saw the passion out of an old man trying to send back a bowl of soup.

Here are some comments

- when it comes to anything genuine, Bernie has her beat badly, it's as if they aren't even playing the same game. Bernie believes everything he says and Hillary believes everything she says will get her elected. The two don't mix

- I love the fact that unlike every other candidate who sloshes down Poland Spring after Poland Spring, Bernie is chugging straight black coffee. It's 10:45 and he's got a pot of that gas station quality mud under his lector.

- Hillary on the other hand practically has Rachel Maddow under her lector the entire night

- for all the fireworks we got early, it seemed the old man got a bit tired and Hillary realized it wasn't playing well, so at some point they seemed to be exchanging spots underneath each other's lectors

- you can see the Melanoma growing on Bernie's head, if that isn't king to get him, the fact that he looks like he is about to go into cardiac arrest right on stage. He also looks like he has to pee the entire time, maybe cut back on that black mud a bit??

- when Bernie smiles I half expect his teeth to fall out

- When Hillary smiles I see that carnival game clown

- when it comes to foreign policy, Bernie is lost. It is not the lack of experience that bothers me, it is that he has absolutely no discernible policy or direction. The answer to Russia's land grab cannot be "income inequality", the answer to North Korea cannot be "deregulating the banks" and the answer to Saudi-Iranian feud cannot be Big Oil...well maybe that could have something to do with it

- Bernie makes people who follow Islam sound like they are a big antlered large deer. I get the Brooklyn accent is part of the charm but come on dude.

- you have to love that Hillary turns over her notes when she goes to take a wee. She treats them more carefully than she does classified information

- The contrast between a seasoned politician and a ideologue is pretty stark and as much as Hillary will fight I think we all believe that voting for her is a vote for the status quo...and that is not a bad thing at all

- glad to see Flint brought up, time for Obama to step in and treat this like the national crisis that it is, it is not his fault but if that were Bush, he would be getting killed for inaction. Time to step up and lead

- there is nothing lamer than the "would you choose him/her as your VP?" God, get over yourself MSNBC, we all know she is taking Ed Rendell and he is taking a moose

- I hope Chris Matthews and the rest of the MSNBC crew didn't hurt themselves (or each other) trying to get out from underneath Rachel Maddow and Chuck Todd's desk

- last note, when the thing ended it was odd to not see Old Bill coming out...wouldn't be shocked if he was stuck under an MSNBC intern's desk

Bill wasn't there because he was in negotiations to become Bernie's Sec of State.

 

[Righetti]

Is it common for the moderator to embrace both candidates in a hug after the debate?

It's the least they can do. It is like kissing your girlfriend after you guys just messed up the sheets

 

[Righetti]

Who knew that taking out that stuff O'Malley would allow Bernie and Hillary to take out their stuff. For two hours we watched Hillary try dirty dancing with an unwilling partner and we saw the passion out of an old man trying to send back a bowl of soup.

Here are some comments

- when it comes to anything genuine, Bernie has her beat badly, it's as if they aren't even playing the same game. Bernie believes everything he says and Hillary believes everything she says will get her elected. The two don't mix

- I love the fact that unlike every other candidate who sloshes down Poland Spring after Poland Spring, Bernie is chugging straight black coffee. It's 10:45 and he's got a pot of that gas station quality mud under his lector.

- Hillary on the other hand practically has Rachel Maddow under her lector the entire night

- for all the fireworks we got early, it seemed the old man got a bit tired and Hillary realized it wasn't playing well, so at some point they seemed to be exchanging spots underneath each other's lectors

- you can see the Melanoma growing on Bernie's head, if that isn't king to get him, the fact that he looks like he is about to go into cardiac arrest right on stage. He also looks like he has to pee the entire time, maybe cut back on that black mud a bit??

- when Bernie smiles I half expect his teeth to fall out

- When Hillary smiles I see that carnival game clown

- when it comes to foreign policy, Bernie is lost. It is not the lack of experience that bothers me, it is that he has absolutely no discernible policy or direction. The answer to Russia's land grab cannot be "income inequality", the answer to North Korea cannot be "deregulating the banks" and the answer to Saudi-Iranian feud cannot be Big Oil...well maybe that could have something to do with it

- Bernie makes people who follow Islam sound like they are a big antlered large deer. I get the Brooklyn accent is part of the charm but come on dude.

- you have to love that Hillary turns over her notes when she goes to take a wee. She treats them more carefully than she does classified information

- The contrast between a seasoned politician and a ideologue is pretty stark and as much as Hillary will fight I think we all believe that voting for her is a vote for the status quo...and that is not a bad thing at all

- glad to see Flint brought up, time for Obama to step in and treat this like the national crisis that it is, it is not his fault but if that were Bush, he would be getting killed for inaction. Time to step up and lead

- there is nothing lamer than the "would you choose him/her as your VP?" God, get over yourself MSNBC, we all know she is taking Ed Rendell and he is taking a moose

- I hope Chris Matthews and the rest of the MSNBC crew didn't hurt themselves (or each other) trying to get out from underneath Rachel Maddow and Chuck Todd's desk

- last note, when the thing ended it was odd to not see Old Bill coming out...wouldn't be shocked if he was stuck under an MSNBC intern's desk

Bill wasn't there because he was in negotiations to become Bernie's Sec of State.

Bill looks more senile than Bernie

 

[Blick]

I'd never vote for a socialist, but Sanders might be my favorite candidate remaining on either side. Just his authenticity and passion is refreshing, and I believe he means it when he talks about getting the big money out of politics. He strikes me as the kind of person we wish all politicians would be -- principled public servants. Hillary must hate having to stand next to someone like that. Damn phony old cow.

Best post in this thread. There is no doubt what we're getting in Bernie.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Is it common for the moderator to embrace both candidates in a hug after the debate?

Nope, never done.

However I think the msnbc'ers actually did a decent job.

 

[eoMMan]

I'd never vote for a socialist, but Sanders might be my favorite candidate remaining on either side. Just his authenticity and passion is refreshing, and I believe he means it when he talks about getting the big money out of politics. He strikes me as the kind of person we wish all politicians would be -- principled public servants. Hillary must hate having to stand next to someone like that. Damn phony old cow.

Great post. After watching the entire debate last night it is so obvious the guy is genuine and stands for something. The problem I have is the bolded. Too bad. I wish we had more candidates like him that represent more capitalistic ideals.

Some things I totally agree with him and like, but a lot of things (and things I feel are far too socialistic in nature) will not get done in the present state of our political system. If he indeed is elected as our President a lot of compromise will have to be employed to get anything done with the House and Senate.

Pretty much how I feel.

I think there SHOULD be different levels in our economy and $15 minimum wage, for example, is ridiculous. I love that in the USA you can work hard and improve your life/situation. You shouldn't get destroyed with taxes if you are successful.

 

[eoMMan]

Who were the two dudes moderating the debate?

 

[identikit]

Who were the two dudes moderating the debate?

Lolz

 

[squistion]

Is it common for the moderator to embrace both candidates in a hug after the debate?

Nope, never done.

However I think the msnbc'ers actually did a decent job.

Rachel Maddow MSNBC ‏@maddow

If/when GOP invites me and MSNBC to host a primary debate, rest assured I am definitely hugging those guys, too. #I'mAHugger

 

[Righetti]

Is it common for the moderator to embrace both candidates in a hug after the debate?

Nope, never done.

However I think the msnbc'ers actually did a decent job.

Rachel Maddow MSNBC ‏@maddow

If/when GOP invites me and MSNBC to host a primary debate, rest assured I am definitely hugging those guys, too. #I'mAHugger

that is a LIE.. nobody wants to hug Ted Cruz..nobody

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Is it common for the moderator to embrace both candidates in a hug after the debate?

Nope, never done.

However I think the msnbc'ers actually did a decent job.

Rachel Maddow MSNBC ‏@maddow

If/when GOP invites me and MSNBC to host a primary debate, rest assured I am definitely hugging those guys, too. #I'mAHugger

Honestly please:- MSNBC do the GOP debate

And

- Fox do the Dem debate.

And CNN can have Trump all to themselves.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Who knew that taking out that stiff O'Malley would allow Bernie and Hillary to take out their stuff. For two hours we watched Hillary try dirty dancing with an unwilling partner and we saw the passion out of an old man trying to send back a bowl of soup.

Here are some comments

- when it comes to anything genuine, Bernie has her beat badly, it's as if they aren't even playing the same game. Bernie believes everything he says and Hillary believes everything she says will get her elected. The two don't mix

- I love the fact that unlike every other candidate who sloshes down Poland Spring after Poland Spring, Bernie is chugging straight black coffee. It's 10:45 and he's got a pot of that gas station quality mud under his lector.

- Hillary on the other hand practically has Rachel Maddow under her lector the entire night

- for all the fireworks we got early, it seemed the old man got a bit tired and Hillary realized it wasn't playing well, so at some point they seemed to be exchanging spots underneath each other's lectors

- you can see the Melanoma growing on Bernie's head, if that isn't king to get him, the fact that he looks like he is about to go into cardiac arrest right on stage. He also looks like he has to pee the entire time, maybe cut back on that black mud a bit??

- when Bernie smiles I half expect his teeth to fall out

- When Hillary smiles I see that carnival game clown

- when it comes to foreign policy, Bernie is lost. It is not the lack of experience that bothers me, it is that he has absolutely no discernible policy or direction. The answer to Russia's land grab cannot be "income inequality", the answer to North Korea cannot be "deregulating the banks" and the answer to Saudi-Iranian feud cannot be Big Oil...well maybe that could have something to do with it

- Bernie makes people who follow Islam sound like they are a big antlered large deer. I get the Brooklyn accent is part of the charm but come on dude.

- you have to love that Hillary turns over her notes when she goes to take a wee. She treats them more carefully than she does classified information

- The contrast between a seasoned politician and a ideologue is pretty stark and as much as Hillary will fight I think we all believe that voting for her is a vote for the status quo...and that is not a bad thing at all

- glad to see Flint brought up, time for Obama to step in and treat this like the national crisis that it is, it is not his fault but if that were Bush, he would be getting killed for inaction. Time to step up and lead

- there is nothing lamer than the "would you choose him/her as your VP?" God, get over yourself MSNBC, we all know she is taking Ed Rendell and he is taking a moose

- I hope Chris Matthews and the rest of the MSNBC crew didn't hurt themselves (or each other) trying to get out from underneath Rachel Maddow and Chuck Todd's desk

- last note, when the thing ended it was odd to not see Old Bill coming out...wouldn't be shocked if he was stuck under an MSNBC intern's desk

This was a great post, you get a Like IOU.

 

[RBM]

Horrible ratings.

 

[Righetti]

Who knew that taking out that stiff O'Malley would allow Bernie and Hillary to take out their stuff. For two hours we watched Hillary try dirty dancing with an unwilling partner and we saw the passion out of an old man trying to send back a bowl of soup.

Here are some comments

- when it comes to anything genuine, Bernie has her beat badly, it's as if they aren't even playing the same game. Bernie believes everything he says and Hillary believes everything she says will get her elected. The two don't mix

- I love the fact that unlike every other candidate who sloshes down Poland Spring after Poland Spring, Bernie is chugging straight black coffee. It's 10:45 and he's got a pot of that gas station quality mud under his lector.

- Hillary on the other hand practically has Rachel Maddow under her lector the entire night

- for all the fireworks we got early, it seemed the old man got a bit tired and Hillary realized it wasn't playing well, so at some point they seemed to be exchanging spots underneath each other's lectors

- you can see the Melanoma growing on Bernie's head, if that isn't king to get him, the fact that he looks like he is about to go into cardiac arrest right on stage. He also looks like he has to pee the entire time, maybe cut back on that black mud a bit??

- when Bernie smiles I half expect his teeth to fall out

- When Hillary smiles I see that carnival game clown

- when it comes to foreign policy, Bernie is lost. It is not the lack of experience that bothers me, it is that he has absolutely no discernible policy or direction. The answer to Russia's land grab cannot be "income inequality", the answer to North Korea cannot be "deregulating the banks" and the answer to Saudi-Iranian feud cannot be Big Oil...well maybe that could have something to do with it

- Bernie makes people who follow Islam sound like they are a big antlered large deer. I get the Brooklyn accent is part of the charm but come on dude.

- you have to love that Hillary turns over her notes when she goes to take a wee. She treats them more carefully than she does classified information

- The contrast between a seasoned politician and a ideologue is pretty stark and as much as Hillary will fight I think we all believe that voting for her is a vote for the status quo...and that is not a bad thing at all

- glad to see Flint brought up, time for Obama to step in and treat this like the national crisis that it is, it is not his fault but if that were Bush, he would be getting killed for inaction. Time to step up and lead

- there is nothing lamer than the "would you choose him/her as your VP?" God, get over yourself MSNBC, we all know she is taking Ed Rendell and he is taking a moose

- I hope Chris Matthews and the rest of the MSNBC crew didn't hurt themselves (or each other) trying to get out from underneath Rachel Maddow and Chuck Todd's desk

- last note, when the thing ended it was odd to not see Old Bill coming out...wouldn't be shocked if he was stuck under an MSNBC intern's desk

This was a great post, you get a Like IOU.

 

[timschochet]

Here we go again in 30 minutes. The last debate was excellent. Lots of pressure tonight on Hillary obviously.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Live link here for anyone hanging out on the laptop...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o56pLqPYcEo

 

[TripItUp]

Prediction: Hillary's debate performance is overstated by CNN

#BoughtandPaidFor

 

[hagmania]

Happy

Really?

 

[Mister CIA]

Live link here for anyone hanging out on the laptop...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o56pLqPYcEo

 

[Mister CIA]

I predict this results of this debate will have a lasting, memorable impact.

 

[timschochet]

Notice how Bernie goes almost INSTANTLY to the criminal justice system tonight. Who is he trying to talk to here?

 

[The_Man]

Voters?

 

[BobbyLayne]

you say you want a revolution

African Americans / Immigrants / Women

 

[timschochet]

Hillary: Hey blacks and Latinos! I'm here for you.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Clinton: "I agree with Bernie. I am with him"

 

[timschochet]

Clinton: "I agree with Bernie. I am with him"

Pretty short too.

 

[The_Man]

A break already? This is worse than an NFL playoff game

 

[Willie Neslon]

She finally used the word "we". Her CNN lackeys are gonna like that.

 

[Shula-holic]

This reminds me of the 1992 primary when Paul Tsongas called Bill Clinton "pander bear"

 

[The_Man]

o/u on Hillary mentions of Obama is 13

 

[Sinn Fein]

BTW - if Bernie dies tonight, I accuse Col. Mustard

 

[The_Man]

Haha. Bernie beats Hillary to mentioning Flint

 

[BobbyLayne]

40%!

 

[AnonymousBob]

40%

Those numbers sound made up...